Porsche 911 GT3 RS vs Corvette Z06 | Too much for the road? 

I think Ferrari 296 GTB should give them a run for the money

Some education: GT3 Touring = Z06 GT3 = Z06+Z07 Performance Pack GT3RS = ZR1 (coming soon) So, this review had the cards stacked against the Corvette right from the start.

@@dash-ryan you are forgetting about the upcoming 992 GT2

1.Porsche GT3RS 2. Corvette Z06 3. Porsche GT3/GT4RS

@@fqeagles21 Agreed I went for a 296 GTB over the 992 GT3 RS, I couldn't see any point upgrading from my 991.2 GT3 RS. I have also driven the 992 GT3 RS hard on track and fully logged it, whilst excellent it didn't blow me away anymore than my 991.2 GT3 RS, on slow and medium average speed tracks the difference is small - high average speed tracks like Spa or the ring you gain more benefit for sure. Probably the bigger issue for me was the engine and gear box didn't move the game on. Couldn't care less about the interior, adjustable damping in cab is great. And yet overall it didn't really move me - probably because the engine and gear box didn't really move the game on. I might take a look at the 992.2 RS, we'll see.

Obviously they didn’t spend enough!

@@JeepCherokeeful yea not the euro one cause who cares about them. All about the USA baby!!! It sounds better than a 458 over here in the usa😎

@@JeepCherokeefulblame those communist in the EU

​@@JeepCherokeeful You can blame the stupid Euro emission regulations for that, this sounds like a completely different car in this video, plus lower HP on the euro spec.

Nobody is cross shopping a C8 Z06 and Carrera (theres the Z51 C8 for that). They serve different buyers markets. On a side note good luck getting a Z06 for anywhere close to MSRP. They are all going for $130k the second you tick any options box which puts them squarely in 911 GT3/Touring (not RS) price points to which many people are cross shopping them. The GT3 RS is obviously an outlier and theres nothing in the market that track focused short of a McLaren Senna so you can't objectively compare it to anything.

@@adonislimes6156 There is a fallacy in your argument - Corvettes are not the only cars selling over MSRP. Markups on 911 GT3s are even higher than on Z06s, at least here in the U.S. Even used 2022 and 2023 GT3s are selling for almost $300k. Of course, you can get a Z06 for MSRP if you are patient enough to wait in the allocation line. The same probably can be said for the GT3. Moreover, most people have a budget when shopping for a new car, and do not significantly vary from that budget, certainly not enough to jump from the price of a Z06 to the price of a GT3. So, although few people may cross shop a Z06 with a Carrera, even fewer will cross shop a new Z06 with a new GT3.

@@adonislimes6156 Also, very few people are cross shopping a Stingray with a Carrera for the same reason I noted in my previous reply. The MSRP for the base Carrera is nearly double that of the Stingray, and even a little higher than the MSRP of the Z06. Start adding in options to get a Stingray and Carerra comparably equipped, and the Carrera will be more than double the price of the Stingray. People rarely make that jump in price when buying a new car. The vast majority of people buying Carerras want a Porsche, and never give serious consideration to a Chevrolet in the first place.

@@adonislimes6156 Lastly, since the question may come up, I did buy my C8 Stingray at MSRP and, yes, I did have to wait a while. The Bowling Green manufacturing plant now is at full production, so wait time on Stingrays is significantly shorter than when I purchased mine. It should get even shorter unless there is another strike by the United Auto Workers.

I love that corvettes are always compared to much more expensive cars! The bang for the buck is what makes me love corvettes so much. I race a c5z06 that I payed $15,000 for and it is so satisfying to beat cars that cost 50-60k more.

literally 2x the price of the Z06 even with the Z07 package.

Agreed

European reviewers always do this. Afraid to compare Apples to Apples. Why? There are PLENTY of European sports cars in the 110K pound range, but they know the Vet would embarrass them, so they find a way out.

Porsche started shipping this to the Z06 comparos after the normal GT3 lost to it at the track.

​@@markw9512it lost by 1/10th in Savage geese video... With 150hp less... Hardly a loss

I knew something was a bit off!

The euro Z06 loses 40hp

Yup, literally the only reason their version sounds like shit is because of compliance to euro laws. Watch speed phenoms first time drive in C8 Z06 to get an actual estimate of how the car sounds like, its glorious.

So funny how crazy the law and bureaucracy has gotten. No more center pipes, and it's too loud! Lol.

@@aab350z yeah I thought California had the most strict emissions, but Europe said hold my beer 🍺

1 second ago thanks for writing this... I was over here like why is the exhaust on the outside and not in the middle.

@@brandonchism6960 yeah I think that slightly skewed his review of the Z06, because it sounds AMAZING unrestricted!

😂😂😂

​@@tecumseh4095motorsport magazine confirm it's faster so no need to laugh

A legend is not a ugly fat pig 3700lbs mid engine that we see everywhere! It's a american sports car. Let me choose every other mid engine than this design who was already old in 2020!

@@philippeleblond9631 👏 👏

@@philippeleblond9631 how many high revving naturally aspirated V8 cars are available today? Besides the Z06, I don't see anyone.

Plus a reduced HP in the Euro Corvette model.

and lower flow exhaust also means 40 less hp

Lol they have to a qualify that as “v8”. No Supercar manufacturer makes a na v8 anymore and no the corvette does not have the highest horsepower per liter of any NA production engine,,, not close

​@wethomas3 Clearly said V8. Thats the record. Dont be biased

@@WindyCity1992 my point is it’s hardly a record. Not one high end car manufacturer makes a NA v8. Not Porsche, not Ferrari, not Lamborghini, not bmw, not Audi, not Mercedes. The only ones are toyota, Dodge, Chevy, and ford. So lol it’s not impressive!

hee haw

​@wethomas3 Doesnt matter who does what When it was being done nobody Questioned the competition did they?? Yall aren't good at hiding the bias lol

Yea its due to euro decibal restrictions the exhaust had to be modified for export but still the Z06 is an amazing car to say the least.

@@realdeal7188 I definitely agree 👍🏾

i just got one for 297k

Does that mean I can have a Z06 in two different colors in my garage. One for rain and one for shine...These can be picked up state side for around $125 with a few options.

@@Epsonblade No you can't. They are going for at or over $200k.

@@billymays7210 I don't pay dealer mark up, MY DAD OWNS 7 DEALERSHIPS IN FLORIDA... SO YEAH, YEAH I CAN.

@@Epsonblade 1) You said “these can be picked up for $125k” not “I can get these for MSRP because…” 2) HAHAHAHAHAHAHA @ MY DADDY OWNS DEALERSHIPS SO I CAN 😂😂😂 PRICELESS! Thank you for the meme! 3) My daddy can beat up your daddy! 😘😘😘

Absolutely agree; well stated.

And pay there workers criminal wages…

@@TylerSmithMusic1 Although I understand, GM has been teetering on bankruptcy for decades now with government bail outs and such. Unless we all are willing to pay Porsche money for GM product, I'm not sure what the answer is.

@@dash-ryan which were paid for by American tax dollars. We save the company, and get charged over price for every vehicle as they make record profits and stock buyback? Porsche is a specialty company I got that. But mass production is only impressive if you take out the fact that the people who create the vehicles you love, are worked like 2nd class citizens

@@TylerSmithMusic1 Just wait until the market is flooded with inexpensive Chinese EVs. They will also turn huge profits because their employees are worked like 3rd class citizens, at best. My point is that although you make a good point and all employees should be given fair wages and good work conditions, how do compete in a global economy with product made for far less with cheap and inhuman labor? My only thought is for all people to change their buying habits in favor of supporting your local economy. Walmart is a perfect example of how people who don't like the way Walmart shuts down the local mom-and-pop operations when they show up, but is that Walmart's fault or the community's fault for not supporting local business? How do you convince people to take the higher road in their buying habits, when they themselves need a price break to survive? You're right, GM needs to treat it's employees better, but you also have a responsibility then to support GM with your buying dollars.

@@ernestkeller186 Because a British reviewer will never give an American car the credit it deserves

literally bro and they always down play the z06 as if it’s not half the price and beats the porsches on tracks🤣🤣

Price difference....with import costs to the UK they'd be a similar price and given this is a UK review...................the C8 is going for between £100k-£140k. Which converting us $120k-$160k US.

​@@slats1987 The Porsche starts at $241,000 😮😮😮

​@Cane1992 plus the cost for four other Porsches you'll have to buy first before you can get on the list!

well it's a euro review. That's why 😂

US made plenty of great cars other than the Z06 like the Chevy Camaro ZL1 1LE, 2016 Dodge Viper ACR, 2020 Shelby GT509 carbon fiber track package, C7 ZR1, and 2022 Cadillac CT5 V blackwing.

@@YusufSayed-px2xy Don't forget the Ford GT, all 3 versions are trading pretty well.

Nope - that honor still belongs to the Plymouth Voyager with wood grain trim.

Now remember that this will be the next to slowest C8 Corvette of the five trims that will eventually be made available. Just imagine this car with twin turbos around 1000hp, AWD, hybrid and more carbon fiber.

@akhoustonyou listed all the American barges 😂

And yet a raced prep version of this very car beat Porsche at Le Mans by a large margin. Euro reviewers twist themselves in knots attempting somehow detract from the car to the point where they contradict each other or test convertible version head to head with its lower spec tires, suspension tune, weight etc. If this exact car were somehow coming from a new Brit marque and priced the same as the old Euros it would be celebrated as a revelation and certainly win the comparison

I belive this is cynical from the so called press. That is because they seat neck deep in the ass of mighty makers like VAG striving for their ever recurring cars and events and advertising, while they gain nothing from erratic american performance cars presence and market share. @@jpslayermayor9293

​@@jpslayermayor9293the race-prepared version of the 911 crushed the Corvette 5 years in a row

It is not so difficult to accept that regardless of the price, the 911 gt3/rs was always superior to the z06 of each generation including this one, and well, the Corvette here in Europe and the rest of the world costs the same or more than a 911 and you talk about the Europeans are biased when literally all their magazines like motor trend or car and driver are completely biased with foreign cars or I remind you of the c7 zr1 beating the 911 gt2 in the vir when the 911 gt2 practically destroys the Corvette on any track in the rest of the world , or comparing the lap of the c8 z06 in the VIR with a professional driver against the lap of the 992 gt3 and an amateur driver, the numbers do not lie and the 911 was always superior and the only excuse they had was the price but now with the Corvette costing the same as a Porsche, they no longer have excuses and if we talk about lemans, the 911 crushed the Corvette in the last 5 years

@@Steven-re3id Man you a masterpiece of Porsche fanboy ... The last five GT Am Pro victories in Le Mans before 2023 were 2 from Ferrari, 2 from Aston Martin ( the Brand that won more GT class races in Le Mans in this century) and only 1 from Porsche, and this year Corvette won very easily . By the way the last year that Porsche won (2020) there was no Corvette in the race neither CR8 or CR7 and the car Porsche uses in Le Mans is the RSR , a "especial" 911 with a CENTRAL ENGINE. No that car is not a real 911 with rear engine as RS GT3 or 911 R . Porsche RS GT2 was another model with turbos and it is no more in production and had almost twice the price of GT3 RS... CR8 is not the front engined CR7.... is a totally different car with CENTRAL ENGINE as RSR that Porsche use in competition ( Can you tell me why) . In fact it is a Ferrari copy with more cm3 in the engine. The trick that GT3 RS uses to be slight faster in track is its DRS, but its is only a aero trick copied from F1 that aftermarked tunners can adapt in any car and it can be very dangerous if used in the regular roads.

Exactly Correct!!

That was the standard GT3. This is the RS. In Hagerty's test, the GT3 RS was faster than the Z06 around Willow Springs.

I'm guessing different regulations just to legalize it there? Sad they don't get the same car. Kinda reminds of 30 years ago, when they ruined Lambo's with EPA stuff just to be able to sell them in America.

@@ernestkeller186 GT3 vs Z06 is a natural comparo, US spec for both cars. Not the RS with as you mention EU spec.

@@ernestkeller186 I'm agreeing with you...read my post again. GT3 vs Z06 in the US is fair. GT3RS vs Z06 in EU is not fair.

@@ernestkeller186 no problemo

The EU is eating their bacon.

Also buy a second car lol

Fairly typical of a stock Corvette to be conservative in setup and alignment. I bet once the track guys start tuning these Z06's they will really come alive. (Not to say I'm assuming it will suddenly be better than the RS, I'm not.

I take the Corvette between the two of them. No question.

@@juliusten6225 ewww

Only one of them will be a classic and sold above sticker price potentially for 20+ years. The other is going to be $70k someday and will be modded with Pep Boys junk. Tough call...

​@@MrSchn3llsure thing dummie. Yes sir move on, nothing special about this Z06 engine 😂

The C8 was selling for insane money when it first came out, but the nice thing is they come down over time as GM doesn’t limit production to a few hundred examples. Give it another 6-8 months.

Put them both on a race course and see what happens ? OK….. Let’s start with Le Mans…..Porsche has won it more times than ANY OTHER manufacturer on the PLANET !!! Chevrolet ISN’T EVEN IN THE TOP 12 !!! Ha Ha Ha yourself……BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA………

Where is Porsche in Indy racing....Chevrolet has won it more than any other manufacturer on the planet...Porsche is no where to be found...can't cut it....ha ha ha ROFLMAO@@unclebob4964

Yeah lets start with Le Mans...this year 8 Porsches competed against just one C8 Corvette and the Corvette took the checkered flag....8 to 1 still couldn't win...ha ha ha @@unclebob4964

@@deek4412 You are kidding, of course ! ? Thought this was about real cars you can buy and drive. Send me a photo of your “Indy” car cruising down Main Street. If your really wanting to use such a moronic argument….ok. Honda and Ilmor Engineering make ENGINES for identical Indy car chassis. THATS IT. And even then, they struggle to run for 4 hours on an 4 turn circuit ! Porsche runs TWENTY FOUR (24) HOURS on an actual ROAD COURSE ! ( are you starting to catch on ? ) In the real world, Porsche has Chevrolet for breakfast……ha ha ha….KMBFAYSF.

It loses 40hp, and loses 18db

@robertm.3520 they never care, they just want to give American cars their typical biased bullshit. Bet he failed to mention the fact that the euro spec Z06 also beat the GT3 RS at Magny Cours, a slow tight corner track with short straights designed to challenge braking and mechanical grip while benefitting high downforce cars on 4 turns, with a massive high speed corner that should give the GT3 RS a massive advantage over other cars since it's got nearly 900lbs more downforce than the Z06

​@@saltyfloridaman7163magny cours CLUB has nothing to do with the gp track.... its a test circuit for driving classes. And the review was made by the magazine owner who is not a pro driver at all. Maybe the actual Magny Cours track laptimes with Conti the pro driver from the same magazine will follow but as of now those times have zero value. If you would eventually read the web page you would know that the magazine owner and driver by his own admission states he isnt interested in getting the best laptime but just to get a feel for the car. In Italy in Vairano the z06 with cup 2r lost against a standard gt3 and sorry but 4ruote isnt a german magazine.

The Z06 ate it alive at VIR Grand Course

Yeah. For 4X the cost of the Z06.

Thanks!

@@CARmagazineTV Should have mentioned that the Z06 in Europe has a less communicative exhaust system, instead of stating the Z06's engine is to blame.

@@ernestkeller186 British car reviewers are becoming like business class reviewers, never mind all the effort and engineering that it takes to deliver the product because at the end it comes down to how dry the steak was. Absolutely silly

It's literally a Chevy vs a porsche... you don't think the chevy will have a few more flaws and shortcomings 😂

@@coreyegan6751 same could be said about Ferrari and other European brands and all their flaws, crazy thing is that they don’t even bother fixing it or making improvements because of this type of bias and arrogance, but yet British reviewers seem to completely overlook that. No one said that the corvette was perfect but in terms of a sports car that has gotten a complete transformation through quite frankly brilliant engineering in the mist of intense regulations and industry trends, Chevy has done its job on the corvette and delivered with this one here. Let’s call a spade a spade and give credit where it’s rightfully due.

He said both cars are “absolutely brilliant” what more praise do you want? I’m sure there are plenty of American reviewers that prefer the Porsche too, none of which is to say that the Corvette isn’t a great car.

He's saying what he sees and experienced. Roads here in UK are pretty shitty most of the time and if the Porsche deals with them better than the Corvette that's his experience. If it was an American reviewer driving the same cars on American roads the result may have been different. He said both cars were excellent, but the 911 dealt with our roads better...

The GT3 RS was faster around Willow Springs in Hagerty's test.

I guess if they were comparing bargains the vette would be the winner . They’re comparing apples to oranges!!!

Yes, literally 2x the price, I think you can max out with options close to 400k before dealer markup, while the vette never even touches 190k before dealer mark up. Base z06 is 120kish, base GT3RS is 299,999.99.

This is a very biased comment, as the z06 is not a super car. Yet .. it’s a very overpriced American sports car. It’s not all that. It claims 0-60 in 2.6 seconds yet everyone I have seen launch it, even owners I know can only manage 3.4 seconds and higher, due to the wheels trying not to slip and manage all the power. My 2024 M3 CS will cook this thing.

People might not cross shop them but both are track toys so....

Z06 is a track car once you have the Z06 package, just not at the level the GT3 RS is. Edit: meant Z07

One man’s illogical is another man’s thought-provoking! ;)

@@CARmagazineTV Based

​@@CARmagazineTV😂😂

The Zr1 will be a competitor to the Porsche gt3rs and then Corvette is releasing a turbo S competitor with a hybrid system, similar to the holy Trinity of Yore.

still sounds better than any turbo 6 though

Normal in small, hilly and rural countries like this.

He mentioned the prices said the gt3rs is 200,000pounds and corvette is 110,000pounds. But you can’t really even touch one for that price at the moment.

it was mentioned bud

@ernestkeller186what, do you think he should test an illegal version of the car on UK roads? Apples for apples. This Porsche is also neutered compared to it’s predecessor

Here in the States about a $100,000 difference. 😮

because if they compare any european sports car for the same price the corvette will obliterate it and we can't have that can we *sarcasm. I've always felt like European auto journalists never give American cars a fair shake. This is the best performance car for the money since the nsx

@@wilmara24Nope

Well, sit in a 911 and sit in a Vette and you'll know where the price difference comes from.

@@hasangenc2922 I don’t think you can used the old interior excuse anymore. You can argue that the interior layout is not your favorite but the 3lt package is very nice. What nobody ever talks about is how the corvette sound system absolutely smacks the gt3. Some may say that doesn’t matter but it matters to me when I’m doing long road trips.

well don't expect a Porsche and a Chevy to cost the same, also in the real world the Corvette is too expensive and I have seen that in some places it costs 350k

who

@@PixelVogue Jethro Bodington

@@RSADYNAMICS what has he got to do with the video?

@@PixelVogue why you hating for ?

@@RSADYNAMICS no hate, just telling you friend Jetro isn't here

Well said. Unlike most of the fanboyz commenting from both sides.

@@brianhimmelman420 AWD turbo with a back seat… you’re gonna get a TON of views with that video 😂

@@brianhimmelman420 Um, I didn’t…. I was agreeing with the OP, ya know, the one you replied to? 😂 And that’s the best Chevy could do with their steering and an NA motor… the ZR1 will be faster, but will probably be even more “numb” once they bolt on the turbos… that’s why people pay more $ for a Porsche, the way it feels vs the raw numbers. Are you being sarcastic comparing a turbo AWD sporty GT with a back seat to an NA 2 seat 2WD sports car “tuned for the track”?

Lovely location 👌

That's the Euro spec exhaust. It lowers the power down to 630hp instead of 670hp, and gains another 50lbs of weight due to the heavier exhaust equipped with a particulate filter for stricter emissions

Exactly! Just look at how badly the porch is in this video, including GT3s, beat up on this Z06 in the twisties of VIR! It’s incredible, he never stood a chance! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-avynPe70KAU.htmlfeature=shared

0-100mph It's 6.6 seconds.

0-100-0 is 10.6

@@hope4farda Cheers!

@@CARmagazineTV That sounds more like it. Thanks !

Give me the Porsche to get more exclusive and more prestigious car than a GM mass produced ugly mid engine design...

@@philippeleblond9631We get it, you’re into badges even if it means coming in 2nd at the track. Enjoy!

@@markw9512 Go live your dream with your hideous Chevrolet!

@@markw9512 less than one second in difference, we have an emotional Corvette lover here( you )! I gream about a 911 GT3, I will never dream about a fail design Chevrolet Wannabe Ferrari!

@@philippeleblond9631 more than one second difference, snowflake: here are results versus the GT3: Car & Driver Lightning Lap 2023: Lamborghini Huracan Tecnica: 2:43.9 Porsche GT4RS: 2:40.5 Corvette Z06: 2:38.6 From past few Lightning Laps, same track: 2022 Porsche GT3: 2:40.6 2019 Porsche GT3RS: 2:41.6 2021 Porsche Turbo S: 2:42.5 The six fastest cars from all of Car & Driver’s Lightning Lap comparisons: 2019 McLaren Senna: 2:34.9 2021 Mercedes AMG-GT Black Series: 2:37.0 2018 Porsche GT2RS Weissach: 2:37.8 2021 McLaren 765LT: 2:38.4 2023 Corvette Z06: 2:38.6 2019 Corvette ZR1: 2:39.5 Road & Track Performance Car of the Year, 2023: Lamborghini Huracan Tecnica: 1:23.1 Porsche GT4RS: 1:22.7 Corvette Z06: 1:20.6 Motor Sport’s lap time of C8 Z06 w/Z07, with GT3 and other cars’ time shown at end: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Q5aAHU4teiU.html Times: Z06: 1:15.23 GT3 RS, 991.2: 1:15.91 GT3 RS, 992: 1:15.96 Savagegeese same day/same driver/same track comparison of Z06 w/Z07 vs GT3. Corvette and GT3 manufacturer teams on hand making sure both vehicles’ setups were optimal: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zUqDKZEf_FA.html Times: Z06: 1:27.240 GT3: 1:27.329 Tight, short track. Pro driver said GT3 would definitely lose advantage on longer tracks and Z06’s lead would grow on them. Hagerty, Jason Carissa with Randy Pobst driving. Willow Springs, high speed track with 992 GT3 RS’s active aero winning the day here, near freezing track temps. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mCQlLa36-0c.html Times: ZO6: 1:24.3 GT3 RS: 1:24.9

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Yeah, after they got beaten in all track comparisons against the GT3 , all of a sudden the RS started showing up

Correct. They remove the center exhaust for the European version is because of the particulate filters fitment

Much appreciated!

Hopefully, yes!