Porsche 911 GT3 vs 911 Turbo S track battle: Steve Sutcliffe on the limit | Auto Express 

Mat Watson from Carwow in the GT3 around this track: 46.1. Steve Sutcliffe: 42.3 OUCH!

With the same Cup 2's I bet the Turbo S would match the GT3's time. I'd love to see both cars (with the same tires) head to head on a bigger track, where the GT3 aero can do its thing and the Turbo S power counts for even more. Laguna Seca or Portimao would be perfect.

Why this challenge hasn't been done sooner...or maybe I missed it. Regardless I'm glad Sutcliffe is doing it.

42.3 vs 42.8 I wouldn’t really call “blew it away” And the Turbo is a civilised, every day car not attracting unnecessary attention

Mostly tires imo. However, I understand the comparison is as they come from the dealer. Great video and great noises!

The gt3 is mighty impressive, but the turbos overall prowess wins it over the gt3 for me.

I would have the Turbo S any day tbh. It's more understated, it's more comfortable, it has 4 seats, it can be used on rainy days more easily thanks to AWD, it's definitely the better everyday car of the 2. As a sportcar the Turbo S is faster on a straight line (both off the line and in a rolling race) and if it had cup2 tyres it would probably match the Gt3 on a track like this. Overall the Gt3 is a great track car thar can also be used on the road, but the Turbo S strikes the perfect balance between everyday usability, performance and sportiness (imo). I understand why track enthusiasts would choose the Gt3, but I like all-rounders like the Turbo S better, even if they are a bit less exciting.

Turbo S goes quicker on Cup2s for sure but that wouldn't fuel the GT3 hype train. Also faster track would get GT3 aero working but also allow Turbo S's power to show. Evo had exactly the same laptime from 991 GT3RS and Turbo S at Anglesey.

The GT3 sounds and performs amazingly. But I'm buying a streetcar... I'll enjoy the Turbo S while taking a long road trip!

It'd be interesting to see how close the Turbo would get with some stickier rubber.

Steve, such a great job. Well done, watch each of your videos, thanks Steve!

Steve, you are one of the UK's best car reviewers. Such a good job! Your pretty handy behind the wheel of a 911 too!! Well done and thanks.

Steve we learn so much from your passionate commentary over fast driving. Thank you!

I've been busy with work and missed this initially. What a nice treat to start a couple of days off with :) Yay! More Steve please :)

Excellent review 👏..love your reviews 👍 The best car review guy out there. 👏

Need more Sutcliffe videos, great reviewer 👌

What an awesome video. Two of my absolute favorite cars. I do wish the cars had been on the same tires. That made the difference I think.

I wish Steve had his own channel. I could listen to him all day. So engaging....provides such interesting information... Not obnoxious...not egotistical. Top guy.

Great video, great comparison. Well done 👍

Great review as always

Set michelins on turbo s and goodyear on gt3 . see what happens with your 0,5 second.....

I need more GT3 content! I cant get enough

Great show Steve 👍🏻

The Turbo S would definitely be faster with the same Cup 2 tires! That makes a big difference not only on grip, but also on braking! Only 0.5 sec apart. And that’s on a small, curvy track with almost no straights for the Turbo S stretch it’s legs. Personal preference for one or another it’s other matter! Love both models, but for me the Turbo S it’s the better and faster. That’s why you doesn’t see any comparison with the same tires. The GT3 is spectacular but only for the track. It’s the purist choice with many other cars in the garage.

Steve is my man watching him ever since 997 gt3 was new.💪💪

Great review, Steve!!!👍🙂 If you were going to order a 911 GT3 Touring would you go for the manual or semi auto?🤔

1st time viewer…. great presentation. Now subbed.

this comparison is awesome, it's almost like a 100m sprinter vs a marathoner, participating in the 5k event

Thoroughly enjoyed that. Thank you Sir. Would you get a manual GT3 (touring) if it was almost entirely for road use, or the PDK?

Sensational! Just what I’ve been waiting for Steve!

Strewth! Loving these Llandow laps with Stevo

Brilliant review as always! However, I still think the tires made a difference. Would love to see both on Cups, and I bet the result will change 🤗

im so glad auto express did these no one has done this comparison before

This is the first generation (992) where I think the Turbo S is actually the better looking of the two. I’m sure it drives fantastic but just can’t get used to the bottle nosed dolphin front end on the GT3

So much want for that GT3

Sucliffe is one of my favorite journalist.

Superb. Time difference just in the tyres alone though?

Thank you for the video. Your love for the GT3 keeps you from making a proper analysis on what would actually happen in a more open track where they overwhelming speed advantage of Turbo would something to say. Also, let’s see what the times are like on same tires…before claiming the GT3 faster even on a tighter track. I would prefer a GT3 myself… but fair is fair.

Sutcliffe and Harris are by far the best Guys out there ❤ Love it

Steve Sutcliffe is hands down the best automobile reviewer working today. Anything that he reviews, I will watch. I was hooked back in 2015 when he gushed about the Cayman GTS. That review is legendary.

Fantastic! What a sound! Love these Steve Sutcliffe track battles. As an owner of a Type R FK8 it will be no surpise to those who know that I'd go for the GT3. Well, probably! :)

turbo s with better pdk, cup 2s and a huge rear wing

Brilliant vid. Why's the GT3 1500KG?

THANKS STEVE ANOTHER GR8 VID 10/10 MY FAVE 2 CARS

porsche obviously does not want them to test turbo s with cup 2 tyres because its a bit embarassing if their grand tourer would be faster than their track car.

I've been waiting for this... in case I win the euromillions next week and have to choose xD

Mega comparison!! So enjoyable to watch and listen to Mr. Sutcliffe drive these cars as they ought to be driven. That GT3 is a dream car. Oh and this should have thrice the views of any carwow video...

@autoexpress , I don’t really think Steve was the one who was on the Turbo S , on 6:54min you could actually see a person with glasses doing the lap in between

Nice video! I guess Porsche didn’t want you to try again after swapping the tyres

Great test and one I think many have been waiting for. I agree with everyone saying they should be on the same tires, or that the Turbo would be much faster with more straight lines. Either way, and purely coincidental I am putting Cup 2's on my Turbo S next week and can't wait to feel the difference on the track

The Turbo S on Cup 2 N1s would be next MF level. Wow

Finalmente un video che analizza handling e attitudine alla pista! Non ne posso più della drag race con impediti che schiacciano l'acceleratore a tavoletta sul dritto con traction control e cambio automatico che fanno tutto da soli e... si sentono piloti! Magnifiche entrambe ma in questo caso la gt3 è nel suo regno: la regina è lei 😍

Great Video, keeping it short not to much bla bla and strait to track.Thanks

Top reviewer.

Sutcliffe is the man!!!! Love the watch by the way 😜

On the Porsche build sheet you can get lighter race seats, carbon fiber roof, and lighter windows on the Turbo S. Then put same rubber on Turbo S to see a rematch. I am very curious of this. Also on a wet track could you push the AWD Turbo S harder? It seems like every time I go to a track weekend it rains.

Intriguing comparison but the result was not unexpected. Weight and tyres made all the difference as usual. Couple of questions for you Steve. 1) Did the Turbo seats hold you in place properly, or were the 918 optional seats in the GT3 much more secure? Would a change of seat option have made any difference to the result? 2) Had both cars been on say Michelin 4S (80% road tyre) rather than the GT3 being on Cup 2's (80% track tyre) would the GT3 have been overwhelmed by the Turbo's engine do you think? I'm very fortunate in that my GT3 Komfort Leight (the forgotten model after the Clubsport and Touring) with a manual gearbox, poverty option spec to save weight, with standard Turbo seats arrives mid November. Of course a manual car loses a half car length with each gear change compared to a PDK, thus my spec will be much slower than the Turbo but I'm wondering how much more fun and enjoyment you would have had with a manual and how much slower on the timed lap you would be?

GT3 all the way, there's nothing like that na flat six, the sound, the razer sharp throttle response, absolutely epic 👌

Can anyone tell me whether one needs to have very good track skills to get enough out of the GT3 to get a faster lap time than a Turbo S? For an average joe, which car will be faster around the track?

Different cars going extremely fast in two very different ways.. I'd have both if I could.

How is the GT3 gearbox "Motorsport Derived" when a Cup ran runs a pnumaticaly shifted sequential dog box?

"The GT3 blew the Turbo away"? Nonsense. The GT3 had far better tires. Give the Turbo S the Cup 2's and retest.

Do you reckon the cup2 would take 0.5 off the Turbo S time?

I’d have the touring GT3 all day long

Cup 2s on the Turbo S and it should be on par on this track?

Steve the man...My favourite car reviewer

6:47 who is that driver??

that GT3 sounds incredible.

I've driven hundereds of laps round Llandow and I can tell you 42.2 is mind blowing...👏👏👏👌 GT3 please, Would if I could ! Steve Sutcliffe & Chris Harris favourite motoring jerno's !

i'll take one of each! GT3 for motorsport light track feels and GT2 for the autobahn office commute

On a more open track you think the gt3 would do better? I would’ve thought the overall power of the turbo would be an advantage on a more open track. And i wouldn’t say it blew it away

Dude driving the gt3 is in such a state of perpetual of pleasure, I had to look away more than once

GT3 has Double Wish Bone suspension too! Which is a……… “Double Plus” for me. 😎👍🏽

Results from comparisons where cars wear different tyres / different compounds fall immediately off the cliff. To that one have to add that the test track in question favours the GT3… Regardless and once more: ultimate times do interest me little as well as straight line speed: the GT3 had already won before the test took place! As always thank you for posting.

Balance is everything!

My favorites supercars. They're so pretty. I call them supercars anyway. I'd love to see these two go at it at Anglesey.

It would be interesting to compare the manual GT3 with the Turbo S.

The turbo just need a proper stiffer suspension and stickier tires and you got yourself a winner here

I wanted just to say that the 992 turbo (not s) at the nurburgring was catching up with a gt3 rs, i don't know what the turbo s would do then...

so basically with the same tires, the Turbo S is the at least as quick if not quicker as the GT3.

Brilliant vid Steve, best comparison, impressed massively with both cars but only one is really available to buy for mere mortals, the GT3 is still unobtanium (cliche comment I know, but sadly true)

Danggg that was very close :D. The GT3 being only 0.5 seconds faster 😲😲

Steve's a Legend 👍👏👏👏💯🔥

I guessed the right outcome, even to the half-second difference. Suspect there might be different tracks where a different result is possible?

“My goodness me!” ..... that means Stevie likes it 👍🏻

would like to see that huracan evo RWD vs the gt3 on this track

Thank you for the video. Was looking for this battle for some time now. Would be interesting to see what happens if turbo s has the same tyres as gt3... my money is on gt3

The Turbo has a lot of real life advantages. Comfort, ride quality, options, convertible, and most importantly AWD allows year around driving. You really don't want to commute in a GT3 or take one on a road trip. The road noise and ride quality is pretty rough. But the GT3 will hold it's value much better and will always be more prestigious and exciting at cars n coffee. Not to mention the exhaust note!! But I'd take the Turbo, mostly for road trips and rallies

I wonder what the results would have been on the same tires.

gt3 is a monster by its sound.

The GT3 sound tho!!

Awesome comparison and driving, but I think that the Cup 2s were at least worth 0.5s on a tight track like that. I would still prefer the GT3 though 😉!

Just imagine a set of Cup 2’s on the Turbo. It’ll all change then.

During the 911 Turbo S run, how come he wears sunglasses and not wearing them at the same time LOL

I wonder if the difference in performance to a cup car is still as mind boggling in this generation. That would be an awesome test.

Which one is the more reliable?

Would love to see a Turbo S with the Sport Design Aero Kit, sport suspension, and the lightweight package from the factory (all factory options). Put that on Cup 2's and it is faster at virtually any track I bet.

Job well done 2 nice car

So the GT3 bested the Turbo S by a whisker. Shod in Cup2 tire I reckon the laps times would be virtually the same. Chris Harris had a similar head-to-head a few years ago and was astonished not by the GT3's lap time, rather he was amazed at how potent the turbo was as a track weapon. Also, the turbo doesn't have that ridiculous rear wing. In this order for me: Turbo S, GT3 Touring, GT3.

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