Professor McGonagall then and now 😻  

Oh wow

😅👌

i mean wizards have been shown living over 130+ years so

Wizards live for much longer. Dumbledore was born in ‘81. By which I mean 1881

It’s not supposed to be Minerva McGonagall - the writers of this mixed up the name. It’s Minerva Ross - her grandmother. It’s not even Bellatrix L’estrange - it’s **Leta** L’estrange (Bellatrix was **Bellatrix Black** her maiden name (before marriage). Her name was changed to L’estrange when she got married - as an adult. This whole video is a mistake. These were different people who lived at different times

It's her great-grandmother, which was also called Minerva

@@simonleonard4084 lmao nope, the McGonagall in Fantastic Beasts is way too young to be her great-grandmother; also Minerva McGonagall's father Robert McGonagall is a Muggle, so great-grandma Minerva, being a witch, cannot have the surname McGonagall

@@theanonymouscommenter3035 that make sense indeed. I've been reading about this a few hours back, that match with your saying. Guess the initial idea comes from a berry bad article somewhere on the internet

witches and wizards have a longer life expectancy than Muggles, usually living two or three times as long; in the new canon she was born 8-9 years after Dumbledore, who was born in 1881

@@theanonymouscommenter3035 Doesn't she have a time turner at this point though?

May i know what's the Movie name?

​@@nurininsyirahabdulrahman2095 Harry Potter

@@Aranyakx100 the second clip... The one with the Young McGonagall and Lestrange.... is it Harry Potter too?

@@nurininsyirahabdulrahman2095 donno meybe just a falshback of McGonnaglas memories

@@nurininsyirahabdulrahman2095Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald

Sadly "McGonagall" sells better

@@RHTQ1 Yeah I know

We need this kind of comment writters in every comment section 😂to clarify things

Agreed, except one little thing. "Bella's name at that time was Bellatrix Black" is not correct either, her grandparents were barely alive when CoG is played so she wasn't even an idea at that time. But it was, indeed, her birth name which changed when marrying Rodolphus Lestrange.

@@hungariangiraffe6361 I kind of meant that Black would've been her name when she was in school, but I get what you mean and that it was probably confusing😊

Fantastic beasts 1 was okay as a tangentially related film. The others are poorly executed, nonsensical films

She did have a time turner. Idk how far back those things can go tho. Still seems like it’s hard to work that cameo into canon.

Running theory is that she time travelled for some reason lol, but of course the real life reason was prob bc they wanted to put in the cameo 😂

That is a really bad theory 🤣

i think its a correct timeline for Mcgonagal, the wrong one is Newt

Lestrange who was then Bellatrix Black. But anyway.

​@@galadriel3134 This isn't bellatrix

@@galadriel3134leta and Bella have no relationship outside of Bella marrying into the lestrange family

@@galadriel3134 Its Leta Lestrange not Bella

What movie is this?

1956 to be precise and she would’ve been 21 making her graduation date 1953 and her start of school 1946

​@@Jo_Wardyand the fantastic beasts happened before dumbledores 1945 duel with Grindelwald

@@beverlyarcher3744 yes

@@beverlyarcher3744 she was probably put in fantastic beast for fans to say ooh a Harry Potter character returns when clearly in slughorns memory we see Tom riddle ask Horace about merrythought as she was the DADA teacher. She could’ve been the teacher instead of Mcgonigall

😂😂😂

For once it's not 50, Dumbledore would be proud 😂😂😂😂

In the new canon she was born around the years 1889-1890

Stunning and brave.

@@Nisselak New cannon? What do you mean?

She gives Hermione the time-turner, sooo... 😂

​@@Igort93But never used it.

Or one bad movie

Rise of Rey has less influence that the original trilogy, not more

You Zoomers really don't understand time

It's actually her *Maternal Grandmother* called Minvera Ross

​@@gonffcbut she is called McGonagall in the Fantastic Beasts so you don't make sense. It's still a trash

Gryffindor’s professors must make a run for it if it’s a Slytherin (that if the perpetrator gets caught in the first place).

😻

Same😂

Same😂

Love teachers that can smell bullsh*t from a mile away. They don’t put up with it.

Yeah, I split my tea😂

*McGonagall

@DarkLord-pm1eg so?

@@sidhu139 you’ve got something to say???

Wasnt this movie written by J.K. Rowling?

​@@freakdustsk7397 yes

Down horrendous

​@@Larry__. bro wrong time

Just made your likes to 1k

So badass she existed before she was born

According to canon lore, she's not even supposed to be born yet. The whole concept of Minerva McGonagall being around for this contradicts and goes against timeline AND context. ITS A PARADOXICAL LIE.

Not 1000, more than 100

​@@bright218 well it is normal for wizards and witches in harry potter to live for 200 to 250 years tho...

That's not the same Minerva, it's her great-grandmother

they said professor McGonagall not professor Minerva McGonagall you know how a surname works, don't you?

@@KumaLynx-mj9cz no need to be condescending

I understand that reference

Same

I know where you got that, hahahaha!!

Nice one

i remember going down this rabbit hole and seeing (hearing) nothing but those for days...

This can't be Bellatrix, it's long before her birth. Makes more sense if it is someone different entirely. Doesn't even look like her.

@@jm2270 Hmmm yeah ig

They are talking about Leta Lestrange, Newt Scamandar's friend and classmate. What doesn't make sense is professor McGonagal teaching before being born

@@milenalukic5183 I'm sorry.....BUT HOW IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE????? Rowling explain!!!

@Gaint Turnip from quick google search: Minerva McGonagall was born on the outskirts of Caithness in the Scottish Highlands, on 4 October, 1935 to Robert McGonagall, a Muggle Presbyterian minister, and his wife, Isobel Ross, a witch. And Newt purchased his first wand, likely from Ollivanders, and was sorted into Hufflepuff on 1 September 1908. Or if google isn't a good source and you want Rowling herself in Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, McGonagall tells Umbridge that, come December, she will have been teaching at Hogwarts for 39 years which happens in 1995 which means she started teaching in 1956. And Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them movie is set in 1920s New York, which would mean the whole plot of the movies happens before McGonagall could have been born.

I always assumed she was someone from her family, like her aunt or something

In magic world is like a dog year. Nah, I made that up.

Maybe she's like Dumbledore. I don't know, but really that movie is full of plot holes and terrible stuff

Apparently it's supposed to be her grandmother, but they got her last name wrong... McGonagall's paternal side had Muggles

Omg so this McGonagall first year at hogwarts?! Little professor McGonagall

Its not minerva McGonagall Its just McGonagall That means she is ancestor of minerva

​@@nikkinishi648 That can't also be it, because Minerva is a half blood witch and her last name comes from her father, who was a muggle. So that must be a witch unrelated to her.

@@sailspo ok But there is a chance that minerva's father is a squib or at least son of a squib. Hence he was considered muggle, but his ancestors might be wizards. Not saying that its definate, just my theory. Anybody's welcome to contradict

@@nikkinishi648 Squibs are never considered muggles by magic folk. a squib is a squib. Some may try to integrate into muggle society and live as a muggle, but to wizardkind, they will always be squibs. They didn't treat Mrs. Fig or Mr. Filch as muggles. Even though Mrs' Fig lived with muggles, as a muggle for nearly 15 years.

@@Melissa-wx4lu I also mentioned squibs child

"we never use magic on students" is something she said to 'mad eye moody'

​@@tiernangraham2617 yet she put a silencing charm on the other student?

@@justink5000 i know but the silencing charm is harmless a more aggressive spell would have been used on Leta. Tbh idk but its just possibility

Yeah the more likely answer is that the Fantastic Beasts sequels aren't a good addition to the Harry Potter universe

@@tiernangraham2617 Wasn't it' "We ever use transfiguration as punishment for students?"

Same

the girl with the sealed mouth is gryffindor, you can see the red/gold on her tie the first time she pops up

Leta was Slytherin, not the girl who she hexed.

Tbh she deserved that one

I think she just understood that this seal was a fair punishment for the things she said to Leta🤷🏻‍♀️

Sealing children's mouth isn't transfiguration, so...

The surname McGonagall comes from her paternal family, where they’re all Muggles.

There is a theory that she was using a time turner. Although since the movies were canceled I guess it will never be confirmed.

There is a theory that she was using a time turner. Although since the movies were canceled I guess it will never be confirmed.

Except it wasn’t Hollywood who wrote the film

True. However, I thought the voice impression was spot on! Specifically on that second “Lestrange!”

Yeah I thought so too

@@kyuthatsmereally? I didn’t think so at all.

true but she was presumably also much younger and new to teaching

Well it wasn’t her

don't throw around words like King and Queen so lightly

​@@safalparajuliShe is one of the greatest people in the novel.

@@themandals7273 but is she royalty?

​@@safalparajuli god why do u take everything so literally? It's meant as a compliment. If they wanna use it, what is it to u?

@@mushroomravioli1406 because Kings and Queens are demigods to us Nepali ppl They're our gaurdians The King of Nepal 🇳🇵 is literally the avatar of Lord Vishnu 🕉

And it's totally cool she seals a kids mouth shut... after her lecturing Moody about transfiguration

@@potatoe7436 This is before that loll

​@@potatoe7436 but it's a curse, not transfiguration related maybe

Nah theyre the same characters. As much as everyone hates it.

​@@raylop80731 what's the proof that they're the same character?

@@tofuisawesome their names are the same. And the writers confirmed it? Im amazed anyone thinks they arent the same.

​@@raylop80731 Because everyone who read the books know that she got her last name from her muggle father. Therefore the answer is no.

​@@raylop80731 they can't be the same character because it's literally impossible

Peres

Nope its from Fantastic Beasts. It did get messed up tho, because that was Minerva Ross, McGonagall's grandmother on her mom's side. Her dad was a muggle

​​@@LilyEvans0130 Oh, so...Why is Mccgonagall her last name on these films?

​@@SiriusBlackswife444 do you not know the definition of the phrase "it did get messed up though"? That's why the name inconsistency..."it got messed up".

Now we know why McGonagall had that time turner she gave Hermione. Minerva McGonagall has taught at Hogwarts since its inception.

where did you take that year from? only thing I know, she was born on 4. october in the early 20th century.

This might be Miss McGonagall daughter of Mr and Mrs Mcgonagall they also have a son who marries giving you Mirs McGonagall again You can repeat this as many times as you want just keep on producing a son the woman will take his name so if it's still not up to date just do it again until it matches the timeline

​@@_Ai_Angel minerva mcgonagall's father is canonically a muggle. her parents' failed marriage after her dad finds out her mom's a witch is one of the reasons why minerva rejects a proposal from a muggle man she loved.

​@@chrisshimizu308was that on Pottermore?

“DISOBEDIENT CHILDREN” 👺👺👹👹

and a series or a movie, I need the name.

Probably because Mcgonagall was 11y old at this time

Headmistress*

Except she got her last name from her dad... a muggle

i think people say she is actually minerva ross, professor mcgonagalls grandmother

Except it's pretty much impossible because the McGonagalls before her were muggles. Her dad was a muggle.

@@raibyo Apparently that’s the case here: it is actually Minerva _Ross_ but movie makers got the name wrong and named her falsely McGonagall 👀

​@@flav2689jk Rowling wrote the script she's the one who got it wrong lol

Snape is not even born yet

​@@hasanmert5887 neither did she

it was all those new "pure blood" students

What's the name of the movie

@@sanjay4304 fantastic beasts part something

@@sanjay4304fantastic beasts: the crimes of grindelwald

The same will probably happen to the HBO series

That’s more like the silencing charm so technically not a transfiguration

@@crazybanana5089 true, but Oscousy is a dark charm, a lot different than the Mimblewimble spell, she pretty much just took the girl’s mouth sealed.

You know movies. They wanna bring back famous characters and stuff new characters are no fun haha. You saw the build up to young Dumbledore and his face reveal.

"That's Not Fair!"

Too ez

5 million, ka-jilion a-points

I am more keen on believing that Newt, in his late years, has found ways to prolong his life. Magical creatures bear powerful and rare magical abilities which could be harnessed by a master in this kind such as Newt Scamander. Also, in the Harry Potter universe, Newt is like a big name, I wouldn't be surprised if he, too, had access to some philosopher's candy himself, either directly or through Dumbledore.

If we go with legacy, that should be Mrs. Ross. Minerva's mother's maiden name is Ross, Isobel Ross.

the “flashback” is fan made

​@@whishuois this not a scene from the films?

@@sarantis1995 it is i was wrong

It is not different character

It is Leta Lestrange, from «Fantastic beasts and where to find them» series, as I know😅 (omg thx u so much for 25 likes

It’s not Bella, it’s Leta Lestrange… I believe they’re cousins

@@stephanievazquez4384 Bellatrix married into the Lestrange family, her Maiden name is Black, she is Sirius's cousin and Tonks aunty.

@@thefracturedbutwhole5475 I know, I got a little confused for a sec but realized my mistake. I was just too lazy to change it 😅 it still makes them cousins tho, just cousins by marriage.

Yeah she could have at least gone to 4 Privet Drive as a cat

@@badpiggies988 technically she did 😂😂

@@ashamansedai I meant after dropping him off

I don't get the 3rd and 4th? What are you referring to? 😮

The forth is during Umbridge’s reign over the school, she had to keep her head down because she is a member of the Order and she couldn’t risk being exposed and expelled or it will ruin Order’s business. She couldn’t come back to visit Harry because for Lily’s protection to work Harry has to consider Privet 4 as his home. I think Dumbledore understood her weakness and forbid her from coming to Harry or she knows the nature of the magic herself.

The second fantastic beast movie

Fantastic Beasts: Crimes of Grindelwald. Great movie 👍 would recommend

@@user-qw6pz9vk7x Highly don’t recommend - wish they never went through with that god awful series

@@zoelmond Well bro that's your opinion, if you didn't like it then it's your problem, okay so... Keep it to yourself. I love whole of the wizarding world series ❤️

everyone saying fantastic beasts is wrong it’s a fan made video

IKR?? She wasn’t even born 😂😂

Well, according to pottermore Merlin was in Hogwarts. So that means Hogwarts allows a 600 year old to be a first year student. Harry Potter doesnt make sense after the 7th book was written

@@technolegends306 When does Pottermore say Merlin was born?

Fantastic beasts series