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Proper Italian Coffee Compared to Australian Coffee 

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We visit Caffe Pasticceria Cucchi in Milan Italy to see how a proper Italian Cafe and Baristas are making coffee compared to how we make coffee back home in Australia.
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@rubenbanuelos2699
@rubenbanuelos2699 2 месяца назад
You see all those guys with their fancy piston self-leveling tampers calibrated to precisely 30 pounds of force, then you have this italian barista tamping mid-air like it's nobody's business.
@crossmission
@crossmission Месяц назад
Dark roasted coffee like Italian espresso doesn't benefit as much from proper tamping. The grounds erode so quickly and extract so much faster. The lighter the roast the more important it gets as it resists the extraction from the hot water. That means you want as even flow as possible, relatively slow 1-1.2gr per second, spread over the puck the best way you can.
@SoftNoize
@SoftNoize 25 дней назад
@@crossmission you coffee snobs are becoming more autistic than the wifi fanatics. And they are completely unhinged. 1.2 gr… FFS
@sandipthapa526
@sandipthapa526 15 дней назад
@rubenbanuelos26299 it's not 30 pounds. it's 15 pounds of tamping.
@crossmission
@crossmission 14 дней назад
@sandipthapa526 traditionally it's around 30-40 pounds of force or 11-12kg I believe. It's all "kinda" nonsense but it helped give context when you push your hand down on an actual scale. Don't make me convert pounds to kilos it's been a while 😀
@sandipthapa526
@sandipthapa526 14 дней назад
@@crossmission it's 30 pounds traditionally. modern day barista uses 15 pounds of force basically.
@kanga1234567
@kanga1234567 5 месяцев назад
Italian coffee culture with their bars, dress and ambience absolutely nails it.
@bazsingh6220
@bazsingh6220 3 месяца назад
No latte art was produced that day, just beautiful coffee ☕️
@myname-mz3lo
@myname-mz3lo 11 дней назад
mid coffee by people that do not care . those awards are there for tourists . i am in france and french do the same with food . other countries do it better now but they are clinging to it for tourism purposes
@SeshwaChickenKebab
@SeshwaChickenKebab 4 месяца назад
Those "croissants" are not croissants, they're called cornetti. See Italia Squisita for the difference.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 4 месяца назад
Yes, thank you. They are delightful 😋
@SeshwaChickenKebab
@SeshwaChickenKebab 4 месяца назад
love your work mate@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@bartdeking
@bartdeking 3 месяца назад
In Australia and New Zealand they have no clue about bakery to be honest. Lots of other great things about Australia New-Zealand btw!
@RichMaciverPhoto
@RichMaciverPhoto 6 месяцев назад
Kudos for not simply bashing them for their fast and loose way of making coffee. A thoughtful and considerate observation at Italian coffee culture. Really enjoyed that 😊
@EagerSnake
@EagerSnake 5 месяцев назад
I've been living in Italy for two years. They don't have coffee culture. They just believe they know better than anybody else. There are some places in the big cities where you can find excellent places, but the vaaaaaaaaaaaaast majority know nothing. The regular people just buy a kilogram of ultra processed coffee for less than 2.5€. So, yeah. It's really hard not to say something bad about the "Italian way". And some of my family is Italian, but yeah.
@79Potarex
@79Potarex 4 месяца назад
😂 i can confirm we think that… fortunately our convictions continue to be discussed forever…
@giovannimoriggi5833
@giovannimoriggi5833 4 месяца назад
This is a channel for coffee experts, so maybe I can say something about your comment. Because Italians are not all the same, and the traditions are so much. There is a huge amount of variations about coffee, most of them are local, but this story is not just about coffee. The fact is that there are several cultural facts in the land and into the society, to the point that there is a sort of image of uniqueness, which is often true, but can also be a general heritage, something from the past. But when you live in such environment, you can't deny some genius will came out, and that's what Italians know better than anybody else, for sure in some society where the people struggle with culture. For sure it's not hard to say something bad about the Italian way, because you know perfection doesn't exist. But it's even harder not say something good about the Italian way, which is so appreciated in a lot of matters. Don't get me wrong, I respect you showcasing your experience, but being an Italian is so hard, because the many levels of Italian culture, try to understand the struggle. And by the way if there's no coffee culture in Italy, please do educate me letting me know who has it (not even espresso, but at least a modern country…). Grazie, ciao @@EagerSnake
@mrianrock
@mrianrock 4 месяца назад
@@EagerSnake Italy doesn't have a coffee culture? Give ya head a shake. Coffee culture in Italy is massive, it's literally a part of every day. Your "average" Italian coffee eclipses pretty much every other countries "average coffee" and they are everywhere. Sure, if you want artisinal coffee you have to search, but it's there. Don't forget, there are quite often local laws on how much you can charge for a shot of espresso in Italy. This is why you might not find a moustachioed c**t wearing dungarees with 18 months barrista training, taking four hours to pour l'espresso perfetto.
@Elektero
@Elektero 4 месяца назад
@@EagerSnake no coffe culture, yet everything is about the coffee products invented in italy. i also thin goyu don't understand what does it means culture. There is no coffee culture as strong as in italy. The coffee is like that because people want it like that, tasting like coffee.
@ta04trf
@ta04trf 6 месяцев назад
I love the Italian espresso bars, it's like a time warp to years gone by. Thank goodness that specialty coffee has made progress in the field of extraction.
@marcoac-sx6lq
@marcoac-sx6lq 4 месяца назад
Italian expresso is 1 euro at most, not 5 dollars
@rioriggs3568
@rioriggs3568 3 месяца назад
@@marcoac-sx6lq Maybe $1.50 in Milano or more for tourists lolll
@williamstone1536
@williamstone1536 6 месяцев назад
Fantastic! I really love this video, and thank you so much for producing and sharing it. Man....watching those guys work was a treat in itself! My mind's made up; wife and I are going to Milan on our next vacation! Thanks again!
@victorceicys7140
@victorceicys7140 6 месяцев назад
Luke, I remember Australian Espresso experiences much like this during my youth. Was born in Geelong, then lived in Sunbury when it was still rural. At least once a month, my Dad would take my Mum and us on a family shopping trip to "the city", taking a steam train (yep, steam) to Flinder's. After our shopping and maybe a cinema, Dad would usually take us on an explore to some cafe or "milk bar" to experience an espresso/cafe latte or even to visit some new Greek cafe before returning to our Sunbury home. This was so typically 1950's and 1960's Melbourne, and the cafe flavors of the time became very much ingrained in me, as is usual for children, as exotic tastes to be savored...yes, real Italian coffee/espresso and of course even the occasional Chinese Gooseberry from a market.. Of course, the cafe coffee experience in Oz has evolved and changed over the subsequent decades....yes, different.....but maybe not as exotic as remembered from my childhood. Then several years ago, prepandemic actually, my wife and I were in Rome, jumped into a small local, non-tourist Roman cafe on our way to the Vatican Museum. The cafe experience and the espresso was like a priceless, so enjoyable, so memorable, much like a trip back in time to the tastes of decades ago Melbourne. So your tastings in Milan, and the pastries enjoyed, definitely evoked pleasant taste memories for me of the Italian Cafes and Greek cafes of long ago Melbourne. I still prefer the darker roasted beans typically used then, decades ago, and which I grind now for my own espressos, occasionally alternated with lighter roasts in pour-overs and espressos. Dark roasts are still my first love. Thank you so much for your brilliant video. Bravo, cheers. Grazie Mille.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 6 месяцев назад
Thank you, it really was a great time tasting espresso in Italy, yes it’s different but so is coffee all around the world. I’m glad this brought back memories for you. Being able to show this helps others to understand what world coffee is like, and perhaps appreciate what we have in Australia. There is a lot of opinions on this style, but really it’s where it all began and for our parents this is what they may have experienced and shared with us as a child. Cheers luke
@IHATENOTIFICATIONS
@IHATENOTIFICATIONS 4 месяца назад
What a wonderful story! Thanks for sharing 💙
@victorlow2901
@victorlow2901 5 месяцев назад
The energy is just incredible.
@kirsty_iso
@kirsty_iso 3 месяца назад
Infectious isn’t it
@kirsty_iso
@kirsty_iso 3 месяца назад
As though u are actually there with them all and the space
@alansaxon
@alansaxon 6 месяцев назад
I was in Milan in the late 80’s…. Loved the espresso culture there. Looks to be the same even now. But it did inspire me. I craft my coffees at home as the Australians do, but occasionally I will use a very dark roast and reminisce!!
@manaidaylutongbahay
@manaidaylutongbahay 3 месяца назад
I love the vibe of the Espresso Bar
@Robert.Magdy.
@Robert.Magdy. 6 месяцев назад
I hope people see this short video and appreciate how much care, hard work & professionalism we put into the coffee here in Melbourne. Great video gents
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 6 месяцев назад
Australian coffee is very progressive and respected around the would as innovators. Keep it up all! Cheers luke
@rifraf170
@rifraf170 6 месяцев назад
And Australia wide
@ricardomontalbanjr1943
@ricardomontalbanjr1943 6 месяцев назад
Progressive, huh? Next thing you know we’ll be referring to it as they/them.
@simonuren660
@simonuren660 6 месяцев назад
😆 Especially in Melbourne
@iv4nGG
@iv4nGG 6 месяцев назад
Is this city of Melborno, Italy?
@Transformerbarista
@Transformerbarista 6 месяцев назад
Great seeing different cultures and coffees, love their dress code! Love Aussie coffee making. But I’m mesmerized by how quick he churns them.
@CH-yp5by
@CH-yp5by 6 месяцев назад
The dress code is a plus!
@susantaylor5068
@susantaylor5068 5 месяцев назад
Un meravigliosa barista cose veloce (fast) e ogni caffe perfetta ☕️👏buon natale tutti 🎅🌲
@lyndonlives638
@lyndonlives638 6 месяцев назад
Much respect for the way they do things over there!
@kenrehill8775
@kenrehill8775 4 месяца назад
They invented it
@atticustay1
@atticustay1 Месяц назад
Why? They don’t do it very well compared to today’s standards, even if they invented espresso
@myname-mz3lo
@myname-mz3lo 11 дней назад
@@atticustay1 agreed . tradition is interesting and cool . but deliciousness is in the innovation . if people back in the day in italy acted like they do now espresso would have never become famous as it was new and not traditional at all .
@omarferrer3188
@omarferrer3188 6 месяцев назад
Much has stayed the same with Italian espresso tradition especially the passion. I hope to one day visit this beautiful country.
@DaddyMakesCoffee
@DaddyMakesCoffee 6 месяцев назад
The barista is working insanely fast puck prepping on the air! Lol Nice video and thank you for bringing us to Italy!
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 6 месяцев назад
Our pleasure! It was so much fun to experience this and share it with you. Cheers luke
@LL-yf9kp
@LL-yf9kp 4 месяца назад
It's also speed-up in the video ...
@myname-mz3lo
@myname-mz3lo 11 дней назад
no he just doesnt care . over there barrista is a job like working at the super market . just for students lol
@loriosterweil982
@loriosterweil982 6 месяцев назад
I prefer the coffee in Italy.
@arbousiersles7381
@arbousiersles7381 6 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for sharing! It's nice to see different coffee cultures;)
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 6 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed it! We love making this one, a long journey to see what espresso culture is all about. Cheers luke
@spektrograf
@spektrograf 6 месяцев назад
There's something wonderful about experiencing coffee in various parts of the world outside of our specialty point-of-view. While I don't pull espresso in that style at home or use the same roast level beans, I loved every espresso I had in my travels to Italy. Coffee in Japan from one of the many small roasting shops in every neighborhood is the same-very different from the global specialty coffee movement. Experiencing these things is just part of opening our minds to learning about other points-of-views. Thanks for filming this and sharing! (…and wow do those baristas at Cafe Cucchi hustle!)
@Ilay.5502
@Ilay.5502 5 месяцев назад
Тоже про это подумал)🤝
@yvescrepeau5955
@yvescrepeau5955 4 месяца назад
I visited this cafe in late September, I was impressed to say the least . Very good and fast workflow
@atticustay1
@atticustay1 Месяц назад
How was the coffee?
@gabocosta3373
@gabocosta3373 2 месяца назад
Excellent video, one of the best I have seen. I was transported to Milan for a while. Greetings from Argentina-
@surplussingapore5221
@surplussingapore5221 6 месяцев назад
invu! bucketlist for most of us. this video moved us to a dream coffee experience closer. thanks for sharing!
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 6 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@robinkemp6845
@robinkemp6845 4 месяца назад
I love the ties and waistcoats. It made my mouth water
@einundsiebenziger5488
@einundsiebenziger5488 4 дня назад
Ties and wiastcoats make your mouth water? They're clothing items, you don't eat them!
@thecrankster
@thecrankster 4 месяца назад
A great cultural chain linking Australia and Italy. Really, the two countries in the world that worship coffee.
@ingenijkerk9631
@ingenijkerk9631 Месяц назад
It's really fun to see! I'm from holland, live in italy for 2 years now! Started drinking coffee only 3 months ago and started working in a bar 1 week ago where i have to to the "caffè " 😅 That's why i came across your RU-vid channel! Helped me a lot but also noticed the big difference between what you are doing and what Italians like..... I'm so enthusiastic about latte art! 😍 every day I hope for a lot of cappuccino clients! 😁 it's ashame I can't add a picture here of my result so far! Far from perfect but so fun to do!
@stephenqueen6946
@stephenqueen6946 6 месяцев назад
Nothing I love more than the knock box drawers. So ergonomic and aesthetic. (Yes, I've been tired of walking into the knock box forever)
@stephenqueen6946
@stephenqueen6946 6 месяцев назад
Unrelated note; but I get the minimal tamping. It's probably abhorrent to anyone who's gone through 'monke strong' tamping training. I remember a lucia episode wherein similarly 'poor' methods were used and yet still a great coffee came through. I know I've fucked up similarly when trying grind and hit gold. Sometimes it be the beans. It's the whole experience. I like how efficient he is; but I don't like the lack of interaction between customer and barista. That doesn't mean 'magic passion' can't shine through.
@stephenqueen6946
@stephenqueen6946 6 месяцев назад
The more I watch the more I'm getting nervous energy from the barista, rather than flow. I'm not a fan of the brusqueness of the service, and I don't know if that's because of racism or not. Perhaps others can chime in. I seem to remember a recent (last 10 years) documentary about disadvantaged people getting pipelines from prison/vagrancy to bariste, so I wonder if some of this energy comes from said pipeline; wherein management enforce strict standards and the barista is too scared to do different.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 6 месяцев назад
Not sure on that, they were very busy, this place was pumping all day just the 2 of them. All about speed and getting the brews out with 💯 focus
@MarketingGuy
@MarketingGuy 6 месяцев назад
@@stephenqueen6946 Racism...? Don't be ignorant, just because people are doing things differently. Especially if it's a cultural difference. If you want service, you can sit down, enjoy your nice service. If you are at the bar, you get your drinks, maybe a small sandwich or croissant and have a chat with a friend. Otherwise people are busy behind the bar. These are two completely different things.
@stephenqueen6946
@stephenqueen6946 6 месяцев назад
Well, that's why I say 'maybe.' Because changing behaviour/discriminating based on whether someone is part of a different group is most easily described by the term 'racism' from my pov. But that's why I said "I don't know if the brusquness is 'racism.', or if it's something else... so you could follow on my comment to imply that yes, I'm alluding to that service maybe being a cultural difference. But if you have a simpler word for describing 'treating people differently based on them not being part of your social in-group, especially one obviously from another country that doesn't fluently speak the local language', then I'd like to hear it.
@Webbstcoffee
@Webbstcoffee 6 месяцев назад
Thats a great idea for Australian cafes... thank you...
@ryofuku8500
@ryofuku8500 6 месяцев назад
only you are the man no jacket on! strong man!
@tngap0001
@tngap0001 6 месяцев назад
Good work mate, looking forward to what you fellas have learn’t & implement or not whilst over there, really interested to hear more.
@bluemystic7501
@bluemystic7501 6 месяцев назад
That was a really fun video. Thanks for sharing.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 6 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@djm58sk
@djm58sk Месяц назад
Loved Australian coffee culture when I visited last year; as soon as I got back to Canada I ditched the Keurig and bought an espresso machine. I'm off to Italy in a few weeks so this video was very informative, thanks for that.
@ChristianMercadoAcevedo
@ChristianMercadoAcevedo 4 месяца назад
quite informative. Great content my friend!
@mr.ricochet8603
@mr.ricochet8603 5 месяцев назад
One thing many people from outside italy Italy do not Understand is that 99% of bars in Italy are not places to "enjoy" coffee, but a place where people get their dose of caffeine and leave... people going there don't care about taste so much, they just want it to be adherent to their request when it comes to ingredients and size, but not so much about quality. For that you need to hand pick the bar you go.
@KaranShah731
@KaranShah731 5 месяцев назад
oh thank god someone with a common sense
@Delcore2006
@Delcore2006 4 месяца назад
What in the world are you talking about. If you live in that country a place where they didn't put taste and quality first it wouldn't last a week. We aren't German or American, we're Italian. Sure, we drink we leave, but If it ain't great the whole town will know about it. I live in America, not one born Italian I know can experience a great coffee anywhere else except for Italy. Saying you can get better somewhere else only shows your ignorance and completely convinced you know the world of coffee is laughable. Go drink your cappuccino or latte after dinner
@alessandroroveda2859
@alessandroroveda2859 4 месяца назад
Non sempre dai! C'è chi ama il caffè e sceglie i bar in base ai propri gusti. Così fai passare gli italiani come dei drogati di caffeina senza gusto
@Delcore2006
@Delcore2006 4 месяца назад
@@alessandroroveda2859 un'americano che pretende di conoscere la nostra cultura meglio. Poveraccio
@alessiovalente1024
@alessiovalente1024 2 месяца назад
You are telling bullshit dude
@ronaldcooper8651
@ronaldcooper8651 4 месяца назад
Great, I was there years ago, fabulous coffee. 👍
@ellobo4211
@ellobo4211 5 месяцев назад
Mum and my auntie had similar bistro in bilbao spain back in the 60s..very busy place ..same style..nostalgic
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 5 месяцев назад
Must bring back memories for you :)
@Caesar-pj5kc
@Caesar-pj5kc 4 месяца назад
Merry Christmas 🎄
@ThePoorStudent
@ThePoorStudent 6 месяцев назад
Very interesting! Tamping seems to be just levelling off the top and not much pressure. Their desserts look delicious.
@RobTaBier
@RobTaBier 4 месяца назад
Noticed the same. It was almost like he was showing the portafilter that he has a tamper 😅
@atticustay1
@atticustay1 Месяц назад
@@RobTaBierlol
@Flange-lw9sp
@Flange-lw9sp 5 месяцев назад
Love seeing the guys doing their job. It’s what I have always loved about going to France and Spain from the UK. Working at the front of a cafe or restaurant is definitely seen as a career, something to be proud of. This differs in the UK where front of restaurant is seen purely as a cost, and so the cheapest option is frequently taken. I have been served by many bored and disinterested teenagers or children mostly in cafes, and by bored students in restaurants. It’s such a shame the UK doesn’t follow the European model, but thankfully it is getting better.
@itsanarse
@itsanarse 4 месяца назад
Not many people have pride in their service, I can only imagine it is due to the poor wage, lack of prospects and generally the British condition. I just think if I were in that position, I would do my absolute best to serve as that is what the job entails. I've never worked in food service but have done a customer service role so I really do feel for them and like to see when someone takes pride in their work, milling about to dish up food, get an order correct, check in on me. It really makes me smile when genuine care is given, it makes my day.
@carlomariamosco
@carlomariamosco 4 месяца назад
So weird hearing that about UK. I saw James Hoffmann video on the 2007 world barista final in Japan; he released also his own video with some tricks and tips for who is going to compete in the contest. I though, wow! Ok, it's a contest, but are there really places in UK where coffee is served in such a way? Maybe not, if we stick to your opinion
@joependergrass5871
@joependergrass5871 6 месяцев назад
I've enjoyed espresso all over the world and, there are nuances in every region. Most can be appreciated though there is an occasional disappointment. That being said, I'm still drawn to and most enjoy, the Italian cafes and espresso the most. This was a super video.
@atticustay1
@atticustay1 5 месяцев назад
Why? They don’t put much care into it
@Ras77Pmo
@Ras77Pmo 5 месяцев назад
You have to try it to understand. It does hit different than everywhere else. It’s a bit like sushi in japan, it’s a specific taste you can find only in Italy
@uofi1963
@uofi1963 4 месяца назад
Actually, tremendous care goes into each shot. The baristi are professionals who take pride in their work. And then in the evening, we were served a beer or wine with appetizers. @@atticustay1
@hellsing0999999999
@hellsing0999999999 4 месяца назад
​@uofi1963 in this video they didn't even tamp the coffe, not really much care was put on his drink
@Ras77Pmo
@Ras77Pmo 4 месяца назад
@@hellsing0999999999 I could see him tamp the coffee !
@jasonmather3382
@jasonmather3382 6 месяцев назад
I died looking at him not wiping his steam arm
@michelered
@michelered 5 месяцев назад
In Italy during peak hours one barista makes dozens of coffee per minute (definitely not third wave), so it doesn't makes sense to wipe the steam arm every time. Also they usually don't purge during peak hours.
@Valspartame_Maelstrom
@Valspartame_Maelstrom 5 месяцев назад
settle down, turbo.
@Xtremeee151
@Xtremeee151 5 месяцев назад
​@@micheleredWell said, and it makes total sense. I know lots of baristas and coffee lovers that would think this method is unsafe or reckless but it works for them and the business, the level of Concentration, skills and passion is very hard to get outside Italy. Many coffee places in the States are just in to make lots of money so there is not enough passion in it, the sanitation and routine is use here in the States has been evolve to an extreme level with so many names, practices and technology, when the whole point is to just get a great cup of coffee/Croisant on the run and go about your business.I know that this video was intended to be informative which was great but the host should know that if he ask for just "latte" he will get a glass of milk 😅, here in the States people are unaware of this costume and because the "trend" of shorting the words is common it creates a confusion when they order in italy. Thank you
@marcusherts9345
@marcusherts9345 5 месяцев назад
Dude doesn’t have time for that, They probably do it when it’s quieter, or at the end of the day
@KaranShah731
@KaranShah731 5 месяцев назад
trust me, the milk bits don't dry up on the tip during peak hours because you are constantly frothing milk
@Ptpangel
@Ptpangel 6 месяцев назад
When I started out as a Barista in 2002, that’s how we made the espresso as well. Two turns of the grinder to get the ground coffee out, use finger technique to flatten it out, knock it against the corner of the bar, tamp it down hard and into the machine. Later we started using a knife to even out the dose and then tamp - I tried it again recently and the dose was never more than 3 grams out!
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 6 месяцев назад
3 grams is a lot of variation these days, it’s over 10% more grind in a 22.5g, this would have big variations in brew times and taste. Cheers luke
@Ptpangel
@Ptpangel 6 месяцев назад
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters no doubt the variance in the shots were pretty marked, although probably less so when we mix milk into the recipe. The coffee back then was also much darker roast than today, and I think that hid the differences in dose in as well. Of course, we also pulled 60 ml shots from 15 gram dose too, so there were a number of quality points that could be - and have been - improved on! 😂. By the way, I’d love some more vids of you guys roasting with the Bullet!
@atticustay1
@atticustay1 Месяц назад
3 grams is huge variation
@msilvino2
@msilvino2 6 месяцев назад
Hi Luke, awesome video to show how things differ in Italy. What would be the requirement to achieve a good coffee while doing similar workflow to Italy’s?
@alessandroroveda2859
@alessandroroveda2859 4 месяца назад
This coffee "Cucchi" is very famous in Milan and near to my work 🔝
@minxyx1007
@minxyx1007 5 месяцев назад
Great video! I live in Florence and as a coffee lover, things are changing in this city , noticing new cafes opening and offering different options, for an example, you may have to pay a little more but a lighter roasted expresso may cost 1.20 euro instead of 1 euro. If in Florence visit Ditta Artigianale they have three beautiful locations here and always good coffee and food. ☕☕☕☕☕☕ I hate the fact Starbucks have opened here now.....
@jasonvespa7452
@jasonvespa7452 6 месяцев назад
Great vid! Thanks.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 6 месяцев назад
Glad you liked it! Cheers luke
@sympathetic_crustacean
@sympathetic_crustacean 4 месяца назад
I looooove the long shots at the beginning and how they let you really immerse yourself into the cafe/atmosphere. Secondly, espresso in Italy is basically fast food. You go in, pay a euro, get a single shot, drink it down while standing, and off you go. Speed is important, which is why the baristas are focused and fast. I'm not sure Italians would really want all their cafes to mimic the specialty coffee experience elsewhere, which is more careful and therefore much slower.
@mpandunky
@mpandunky 3 месяца назад
I just knew this, thank you.
@jfox8888
@jfox8888 6 месяцев назад
This, @1:16, is what i wish to strive to be at, for my own work place and home haha , just pure focus and relentless passion. Say what you must with gestures, but this is what makes it " italiano "
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 5 месяцев назад
We did see this style in many espresso bars
@Dragonslayer-fy6tc
@Dragonslayer-fy6tc 6 месяцев назад
Haha the eyes while trying the espresso
@andrewdickinson1981
@andrewdickinson1981 5 месяцев назад
Had a proper espresso macchiato in Milan..nothing has come close since.
@darrenfitzpatrick9518
@darrenfitzpatrick9518 6 месяцев назад
Hea guys as a aussi expat who lives in europe lm a cafe owner and barista ,l do luv going to italy to experience it , its very generic all around , and normally the blend is 70% abrica 30 robusto, strong with a bite , if you hit bologna go to mr caffee its a different experience with a huge range of blends to try , and latte art is very good
@felicetdg
@felicetdg 5 месяцев назад
Guys, as cafe owner, no one noticed that this guy is doing a job that here in Australia would require at least 2 people? (Probably even 3) Keep it mind mind
@jaegerarthur6718
@jaegerarthur6718 5 месяцев назад
You mean 2 slow baristas? It's definitely possible to make better quality coffee than this with little to no delay compared to him.
@marcoac-sx6lq
@marcoac-sx6lq 4 месяца назад
I agree. I worked as a barista in Italy, now I live abroad. In Italy it's definitely a difficult job, not for everyone. You must be fast, smart, responsive, and very dexterous. While abroad you will see these very relaxed, non responsive teenagers, taking all the time they need to reflect about life while making you a coffe. And at the end they charge you 3 euros minimum, what in Italy would be 1 at most.
@juandiegosanchez5050
@juandiegosanchez5050 5 месяцев назад
Uno de los mejores espresos que he tomado fue en Venecia, !en un supermercado? Definitivamente son buenos estos italianos, tienen la cultura del café en la sangre
@Ilethsamael
@Ilethsamael 5 месяцев назад
The largest difference is speed and cost. Italy has a culture of small breaks, coffee and cappuccino is fast to drink and numbers are most of the times crazy. The quality for speed is out of this world. If coffee culture was slower like in most western cafes, coffee quality could be even higher but that is not how Italians live it. Also quantities in espresso and cappuccino are roughly half of most of the world.
@tahirballikaya213
@tahirballikaya213 5 месяцев назад
also coffee in italy is relatively cheap compared to other countries. When I was in Milano 7 years ago an espresso did cost 1 Euro.
@uffa00001
@uffa00001 4 месяца назад
@@tahirballikaya213 And Milan is more expensive than anywhere else in Italy. Coffee in Rome today costs €1,00 - €1,20.
@OrionRox
@OrionRox 5 месяцев назад
It's really interesting to see different coffee cultures. I live in Canada and most of the cafes are serving light to medium-roast espresso, the same thing happened when I was in the UK, some of the best-rated cafes in London were serving really light roast espresso, and they tasted really good almost like drinking grapefruit juice. It seems Caffee Pasticceria follows a more traditional way which serving more dark roast coffee with more body?
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 5 месяцев назад
Yes your correct, however the super light roast espresso is on its way out in Australia, it’s gone a little too far away from an everyday experience you can enjoy. It’s like a special beer, you will have one but it’s not the daily regular
@OrionRox
@OrionRox 5 месяцев назад
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters Very interesting to hear that, I think it has to do with something like the third-wave coffee movement, the good thing is we have a local roaster store that only sells second-wave coffee which is more dark roasted, and some other newer roaster stores sell light roasted coffee. Variety is a good thing as long as customers are able to choose what they like. For example, I would drink dark roast espresso in the morning and light roast after lunch.
@AlexeiWatson
@AlexeiWatson 6 месяцев назад
Very clean workstation for the speed of service... But that steam wand 🙈
@michaelestrinone2111
@michaelestrinone2111 6 месяцев назад
Yep
@jjg19631
@jjg19631 6 месяцев назад
My thought exactly. And no way dose and tamp can be as it should be. I don’t think this shop is typical as I have not seen that at the shops I visited.
@pallotron
@pallotron 2 месяца назад
as an Italian I agree 🤦
@lethargic_cow
@lethargic_cow Месяц назад
Lived in Rome for 6 months. Loved everything about coffee vibes there. And yes, it was about 1/1.5 euros for a proper coffee!
@darrelgunawan6013
@darrelgunawan6013 20 дней назад
i didnt understand the prices on the video. he said that the price for the coffees and croissant is 60 euros? and another 6 euros if sit down??
@milkshake519
@milkshake519 4 месяца назад
I need one now
@grevasy
@grevasy 4 месяца назад
The atmosphere the dress code of the baristas, the speed..... Pure class!!. No T-shirts, no beards, and no beanies!! Yes the coffee is old school but the Traditional Authentic Italian Espresso is very alive.
@pamanthanos9742
@pamanthanos9742 4 месяца назад
i remember the first couple minutes of this scene but forgot where i saw it
@grischawillrich590
@grischawillrich590 3 месяца назад
The workflow and the speed is amazing even when each step ist not skilled like from a Aussi Barista. Due to the low cost per coffee you have to make high volume to make some money...
@brandoncook67
@brandoncook67 5 месяцев назад
I do see coffee as more utilitarian in Italy. You can see that they prioritize for speed and efficiency. It’s not the type of coffee culture where they take it slow to sit, sip, and explore the nuance. In fact, i know that many Italians simply take their espresso as a shot.
@Delcore2006
@Delcore2006 4 месяца назад
Sure but quality is always first for everything in Italy. That place wouldn't last if quality was second
@blabla1221
@blabla1221 4 месяца назад
It's more of a social thing. You have a quick espresso at the bar with neighbors or colleagues, and then go on with your day. It's not like they have rotating beans so it is always the same flavor.
@Delcore2006
@Delcore2006 4 месяца назад
@@blabla1221 🤦🏽 mado quanto sei ignorante
@SFxAce
@SFxAce 4 месяца назад
Recently got back from Italy and they keep coffee simple and it is affordable (1.2 euro for single shot espresso and less than 2 euro for cafe latte). Granted it is cheaper at the bar (not sit down which will cost more). In Australia, coffee at cafes is way over priced as there is no option but to sit down and even take away it costs the same or more.
@toddpower4674
@toddpower4674 6 месяцев назад
Can't help but looking at that milk on the steam wand. But this guy is fast
@simonemair4586
@simonemair4586 4 месяца назад
When it comes to food and coffee Italy is next level. Very much love the Italian culture and sense for beauty ❤❤❤
@atticustay1
@atticustay1 Месяц назад
No Italy is not next level with coffee. They are stuck where they’ve been for decades while other countries have been innovating
@supercanardo
@supercanardo 6 месяцев назад
I guess in most places you'll get a decent tasting coffee but it won't change your life. They're not going to bother with latte art or medium roast specialty coffee. But it won't break the bank for sure, and you'll have the experience across the country.
@CH-yp5by
@CH-yp5by 6 месяцев назад
Yuo had a lot of Italian immigrants in both Vic and NSW and some in Old and I grew up in the 90s in Sydney and I remember the only coffee brands were all Italian coffee brands that were everywhere when there was zero speciality coffee brands. You should have gone to Napoli or the Islands off Napoli like Capri or Ischia and everywhere are lever machines, mainly La san Marco machines. The real heart and soul of Coffee in Italy is in Napoli, they do the best lever machines and this is what my Italian friends form Northern Italy in Verona say and thats ridiculous that a northerner gives the south such a compliment!
@jacksparrow5281
@jacksparrow5281 6 месяцев назад
Lever machines are best IMO. Got me a Strega.
@Passerbys60
@Passerbys60 5 месяцев назад
If you observe espresso machines position are on corner of cafe not at middle or blocking customer like ordinary cafe. My barista instructor said it was mis conception of cafe owner thought the machine in middle were cool but it not safe if there accident it can harm people.
@soyasaucer
@soyasaucer 6 месяцев назад
the best espresso Ive had, in Italy, was at one of the airports in Roma. there was a cafe right next to where you pick up your luggage. I have not been to Milan but if I ever go there, I know where to go to get espresso. :)
@razraz5474
@razraz5474 6 месяцев назад
Surely they are not watching artisti coffee roasters RU-vid videos😅
@jonathanfreihofer5066
@jonathanfreihofer5066 5 месяцев назад
The steam wand not being wiped right away is killing me, but impressive work flow
@lubenzz
@lubenzz 3 месяца назад
At least he cleaned the drip tray. 😂
@radimbrokes766
@radimbrokes766 6 месяцев назад
How lucky we are in Australia…..
@ricardomontalbanjr1943
@ricardomontalbanjr1943 6 месяцев назад
Weren’t you restricted from going outside for like two years? 🤣
@radimbrokes766
@radimbrokes766 6 месяцев назад
Yes that’s correct
@continms
@continms 6 месяцев назад
I couldn’t stop staring at the steam wand😳
@garethbater6900
@garethbater6900 5 месяцев назад
You so lucky in Australia - coffee shops are just great in Melbourne - Italy also great coffee culture - but France / uk oh nooo
@kimwalton2873
@kimwalton2873 6 месяцев назад
Comparing apples and oranges. I never liked coffee until I traveled in Italy. In my Coffee shop in the US we have better coffee drinks but serve 1/10th of the customers. Currently the are more modern coffee bars in the major cities in Italy that serve similar coffee to the US but once again they serve fewer drinks.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 6 месяцев назад
Yes the new trends are slowing coming over but it will take time and the local traditional espresso will always remain.
@MondayMornings
@MondayMornings 5 месяцев назад
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters indeed, as it should. i also enjoy my WDT and all at home but I am Italian and once i enter a cafe and wait more than one minute i instantly get upset haha
@adamg.manning6088
@adamg.manning6088 6 месяцев назад
As someone that is interested in third wave coffee and makes espresso and pour over at home in that style, but also loves travelling in Italy, I think it’s important not to diminish Italy’s coffee culture and the hard work of the Staff, even if I don’t love the actual product on a subjective level. I personally don’t like the short, astringent espressos, or lackadaisically made cappuccinos. I do however appreciate the culture, the history of the buildings and businesses that make the products, and most importantly the staff that throughput hundreds of Guests per day, all whilst remaining elegant, professional and passionate. There are also a lot of ethical questions surrounding the culture of €1 espressos in Italy and whether or not that’s sustainable. People like those behind Ditta Artignale are trying to promote the Third Wave and higher quality coffee so that everyone can be paid more fairly. It’s going to be a hard path to tread, but it’s exciting that it’s happening. In the meantime, I’ll continue to enjoy the choreographed chaos of the traditional Grand Café and I’ll also seek out the token one or two Third Wave places in any given city I visit.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 6 месяцев назад
We met the team at @lotzero @7grams and Chiara when I’m Milan. Great Specalist coffee roasters from women in coffee. 🤛🏻
@TrueFilter
@TrueFilter 4 месяца назад
Wild stuff. Some hipster patronising Italians and looking down on their coffee culture. Third wave ffs.
@adamg.manning6088
@adamg.manning6088 4 месяца назад
@@TrueFilter Find me the part where I patronised anyone (except where I now imply you’re a fucking dunce for not at least running a cursory google search on coffee before trying to insult me).
@tristanmccoppin5761
@tristanmccoppin5761 6 месяцев назад
My friend has a beautiful specialty roastery just south of Florence, he roasts incredible specially coffee as a reaction to the very quick and cheap dark roast culture. Check out La Sosta Specialty Coffee. Very very good.
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 6 месяцев назад
I'll check it out! Great to hear more Italian speciality coffee roasters are opening 🤙🏻
@tristanmccoppin5761
@tristanmccoppin5761 6 месяцев назад
@@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters La Sosta in impruneta, in toscana
@Qwahchees
@Qwahchees 6 месяцев назад
Wow, a very different way of making coffee than what I'm used to here in Canada. Especially as a home enthusiast, WDTing and taking time to slowly craft a really good shot & foam milk perfectly. The italian baristas pump out coffees in seconds while I do mine in minutes.
@Getchewable
@Getchewable 5 месяцев назад
yea it kinda pains me to know how bitter those shots likely were lmao.
@nohandle62
@nohandle62 4 месяца назад
We don't need all the fancy drinks. That garbage was designed to appeal to people who don't like coffee. The Italians keep it simple. I really respect them for that.
@er.mannov5735
@er.mannov5735 6 месяцев назад
The pace is incredible😎 - as is the steam wand🤢
@darrenc.3263
@darrenc.3263 6 месяцев назад
Can I say how I love the formal attire of the baristas over the super slacker style of most cafes outside Europe?
@CH-yp5by
@CH-yp5by 6 месяцев назад
Mate they are slack in Poland, Germany , Hungary (Frane doe snot count as their coffee is just rubbish) But yeah its only the Italians that dress nicely and some Viennese in Austria
@atticustay1
@atticustay1 5 месяцев назад
I’d rather casual style and good coffee to formal style and shit coffee
@persianwingman
@persianwingman 6 месяцев назад
In Italy it’s quick and functional but not quality focused. Third wave is slow and precise with fruitier flavours in the coffee.
@GianmarcoIerardi
@GianmarcoIerardi 6 месяцев назад
Rather than quick I would say chaotic…
@yellowcard1933
@yellowcard1933 6 месяцев назад
Yeah but fruity coffee is overrated. Everywhere you go thinks your latte should taste like a blueberry. I’m noticing a trend towards people wanting to taste a stronger coffee with more dark flavors.
@ccuellar6212
@ccuellar6212 6 месяцев назад
@@yellowcard1933That is how real men want it and while we are at it, lets skip the milk.
@mopikozz
@mopikozz 6 месяцев назад
well said
@kevinor8811
@kevinor8811 5 месяцев назад
I laugh every time an Italian goes comes into our shop in Dublin….their face when their espresso isn’t roasted to a crisp. Italian espresso just isn’t for me but I do admire their pride in the drink. Each to their own
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 5 месяцев назад
Each to their own absolutely! What do they think of your espresso after tasting it?
@kevinor8811
@kevinor8811 5 месяцев назад
Literally pull funny faces. They think it’s weaker than their own because it doesn’t taste as bitter. I take no offence.
@monicarollo2462
@monicarollo2462 4 месяца назад
We don't laugh at all, we cry every morning when we are abrod.
@kevinor8811
@kevinor8811 4 месяца назад
@@monicarollo2462 yep that’s the point really. Italians are very tunnel visioned when it comes to coffee. When in Dublin I’d suggest going to a high street chain like insomnia if you want espresso closer to what you’re after. Which is what I suggest to Italians in our shop. They’ve no interest in 3rd wave which is fine but you’re wasting your money expecting something like what you’re used to
@humbertokatoch
@humbertokatoch 6 месяцев назад
belo vídeo
@Alex-zv4oc
@Alex-zv4oc 6 месяцев назад
Luke, it seams (in comparison to other EU countries) that the milk is not whole cow milk because of the light blue cap instead of dark blue. Did you ask?
@AlexNurullin
@AlexNurullin 4 месяца назад
what a great place, great service, top speed in rush hour! but this steam wand, man, it's hurts me inside. I literally shout at myself inside: wipe the steam wand,wipe the steam wand!😄
@johnnyp8051
@johnnyp8051 3 месяца назад
Please Italian coffee is one of the best … can’t beat it
@georgestarzynski7222
@georgestarzynski7222 5 месяцев назад
My best Italian espresso was at the train station in Modena. The customers were piled deep and they served this rich, dark roast espresso that they could churn quickly so people wouldn't miss their train. I would go out of my way to walk past this bar in the station for my morning and afternoon fix. I'm not a fan of the foam art, it is just a waste of time. Keep it simple and pure.
@vortex21jw
@vortex21jw 6 месяцев назад
The fact the steamwand was just left with milk on triggers me. As a coffee machine engineer you dont understand how fucked them steamwands get due to milk getting baked on like that then scratched off to clean them
@williambebonis5683
@williambebonis5683 4 месяца назад
It’s probably already been said but the name of the bar “Cucchi” is pronounced in a similar fashion to how you would pronounced “Cookie”, but with the “k” sound doubled, ie. “Cook kie”
@darwinfridgeseals741
@darwinfridgeseals741 2 месяца назад
did you find any medium to light roast beans with less roasted flavor?
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters
@ArtistiCoffeeRoasters 2 месяца назад
Yes we did. We found great coffee with the girls at Lot Zero Specialty Coffee in Milan. You can learn about them here: lotzero.com/en/
@alessandroroveda2859
@alessandroroveda2859 4 месяца назад
Espresso can be very strong...and so you can put sugar inside
@american1911
@american1911 4 месяца назад
Is Italian espresso mainly Robusto when you’re in Italy?
@kenrehill8775
@kenrehill8775 4 месяца назад
You went to Naples, right?
@alfred576
@alfred576 5 месяцев назад
The Baristas in Italy are a lot faster than the ones here in Australia. When I was there in 2018 it would take the Barista 30 seconds to 1 minute to serve me an espresso coffee. Here in Melbourne I could be waiting up to 10 minutes. The Baristas or "i baristi" there really know how to work as a team. Never ask for a cappuccio at lunch time, because they will think that you are weird or you are a foreigner. Next time go to Caffè Big in San Benedetto del Tronto.
@bacogiathichdichoi
@bacogiathichdichoi 4 месяца назад
I love coffee but barista career in Aus is rough. I started barista career with love and ended up by hating it because there are many added options over the year such as almond milk, soy milk, lactose free, oat milk and coconut milk. Sometimes, i got 4-5 different milk types of coffee in row, I just like to cry out the back of coffee machine because the slowest part is to froth milk. We also have the regular coffee beans, single origin and decaf which requires to use at least 2 different grinders. Espresso requires to run 28--32secs. Size is also an issue, Extra large will need 2.5-3 shots of espresso. That's why it is insane waiting here. It is horrible for both baristas and customers. I left the career years ago and make my own coffee at home only.
@rjuwuxd3012
@rjuwuxd3012 5 месяцев назад
One thing I noticed in Italy. If you asked for a coffee it's automatically an espresso unlike in the West or Asia that they give you a brewed coffee or Americano.
@emilianosc335
@emilianosc335 4 месяца назад
that's because the majority of people in Italy call an espresso a coffee " un caffe'"..
@Ben.216
@Ben.216 4 месяца назад
First most importantly everything is clean .. so as a consumer I’m instantly interested in purchasing..including the maker and his clothes .. all actions of the barista is done with confidence..but not overdone to say ..hey I’m trying to be an expert …it’s more like I’m focused and I have a responsibility to my customers..coffee shops on lower tiers should aspire to imulate such professionalism and care in the workplace .. I’m not even having a coffee but still enjoying the experience.. thanks for video .
@jayberringer4670
@jayberringer4670 Месяц назад
Had an experience a few years ago in Rome. Had an espresso at a bar off the beaten path. Best coffee I had in Italy hands down and it was only €0.80 and so much better than what I had in one of the bars in the tourist area. I mentioned this to the barista who was also the owner. who also spoke fluent english. He thanked me and went into a rant when I told him I paid €1.50 for the bad coffee. "See? This is why everyone thinks Italians are thieves! That is just not right ..." Their passion is real.
@shayanfaghihi
@shayanfaghihi 5 месяцев назад
He just showed the portafilter a glance of the tamper 😂.
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