I've been told many times that a PS2 can't run games on anything above a 480i resolution through SCART. I'm here to show that this in fact can be done.
@@Ex_Savior Your BVM only needs at minimum, 540 vertical scanlines to register the signal as "1080i", which is technically what the PS2 is doing. 1080i PS2 games run at basically 640x540 resolution, which is slightly better than 640x480p (depending on the monitor as well, that sony BVM seems great at scaling a "fake" 1080i signal)
1:00 To my knowledge, the GSCART defaults to port 8 if no other input is detected. Normally in RGBs you have three separate wires for the reds, greens and blues and a fourth wire for the sync. The PS2 uses either YPbPr or RGsB for 480p and 1080i signals, meaning that the sync is carried along the same wire used for green. GSCART and other automatic SCART switches use the sync signal to detect which console is on. But because sync is not in the usual spot, they usually do nothing when the PS2 switches to RGsB. Plugging into the default port on the GSCART is the workaround most people with them use.
well on my HDTV a RGB Scart cable will not output over 576i nor will it work with progressive scan what am i supposed to do? Do i need to somehow get my tv to work with RGsB
Hey congrats on obtaining a D24! First, depending on how many hours your monitor has, you may want to let it warm up. Perhaps leaving it on for about 10 to 15 minutes might help image sharpness. Otherwise, make sure you're using properly shielded cables and if you're using a switcher, make sure it's of good quality. Hope this helps.
PS2 below 480i use RGBS / use 480p use RGsB (RGB Sync on green). RGBS send RGB for each wire and sync signal through a wire RGB Sync on green sends sync signal combine with green wire which use less wire than RGBS.
The sync pin is not powered off cause it uses less wires, it's disabled cause normally 480p trough scart should not be used. When component is used, composite out and the sync signal are disabled and the luma pin sends the sync too, and the luma pin becomes the Green wire when rgb mode is enabled in the ps2 setting, this means that the sync signal is sent in the green pin cause it should be the luma pin and a component signal sends the sync in the luma signal. hope i explained it good enough
Component Cable, no doubt. If want to go with RGB, then an OSSC and RGB Cables. This is expensive but the BEST option right now. I'm going to wait for another hardware of OSSC because can't go further 5X and I want to be prepared for 4K.
If your Bravia can take in Component, I would by those cables. If you're curious to try them out, Pound Technologies just released an HDMI cable for the Playstation 2.
Yes! I've been saying this for the longest time! There are very few games during the PS2/Xbox/Gamecube time period that supported 1080i in their games. This being one of them.
With a modded Ps2 im playing every single Ps2 game I own in 1080i thanks to GSM. It's better than the original xbox now. GTA and Maddens for example look like im playing on a PS3!
The BEST Signal Cable is SCART, no doubt about it. Here in America, Is almost sure that the TV doesn't have the SCART RGB input and we will need an adaptor (an OSSC or another "adapter"). With only cables, our best option is to play with Component Cables. The quality is fantastic and some games looks better than PS3 HD Classics (RESIDENT EVIL CODE: Veronica looks better on PS2 is my best example). Maybe is my Setup but for Me, 480p Games like Resident Evil 4, Shadow of the Colossus look horrible in a modern HDTV or 4KTV. MAybe it's my TV's Upscaler, don't know.
Red 5 yeah o play and use composite but my tv has picture options so that also helps. But wondering if a ps2 component cable will make a big difference on my ps2?? Most people say it does
Ismael Ortiz it’s a BIG difference, Man. You won’t regret putting your PlayStation 2 with Component. SONY has a better scaler than my TV (Panasonic). So, I’m sure 480i or 480p content will look ok.
1) Can you run a ps2 through a 1080p or 4k tv? Ive been using a 720p tv for the past god knows how long and it looks ok i guess but just wondering my options to maximize the picture quality. Ive heard ps3 games look awful on a 4k tv so just curious. Maybe i should be using a 480p tv lol. 2) also what is the best tv for a ps3 then? Ive noticed a lot of the remasters on ps3 are 1080p so im gonna assume a 1080p tv is best 3) does plasma or led matter?
1) Yes and No. The Playstation 2 can run some games at 480p, which HDMI can run, but since most 4K TV's now use HDMI only, you'll have to convert your outgoing signal to HDMI. There are many ways to do this. As of today (October 16, 2018), Pound Technologies has just announced that they are releasing an HDMI cable for the Playstation 1 and 2. This would definitely be something to look into for your 4K TV. 2) I can't recommend the best TV as that would vary to the individual's needs, but considering I'm using a BVM in this video with zero lag, I would opt for a LED monitor that supports 1080p with the lowest lag possible.
If you had a 720p 1080p and 4k tv what would you use the following on... Wii (this looks terrible on the 720p tv btw but its going through the red yellow white leads without a scart) Ps2 Ps3 Ps4 My ps2 and gamecube games defo look worse than i remember them
For consoles like the Wii and PS2, I'd stick with Component/SCART. Unfortunately, most 4K TVs won't take a Component/SCART connection anymore. For your PS3 and PS4, the answer would definitely be the 4K TV option.
Sadly, you're not the first person to say this. I've been using my iPhone 7 to record my videos, but perhaps it's just not cutting it anymore. I've been looking into getting a better camera for my videos. Would you happen to have any recommendations on a good camera that won't break the bank?
It's not a crash. Switching sync signals on a PVM or BVM is a manual process. It cannot be done automatically. The D24 can handle both RGBS and RGsB signals. Since I'm using SCART, the 480i signal is outputting an RGBS signal, and when I go to 480p+, the signal switches to RGsB.
Ps2 got fucked in the pal region when It came to progressive scan modes, only like 10 pal ps2 games actually support 480p, original xbox was even worse the pal console has it removed completely fortunately you can get 480p and even the HD modes back on pal xbox with softmods and ntsc games (pal games removed it too) but not so easy for ps2 :(
No other way from what I've seen. Basically, the only way to get a 480p+ signal is to force RGsB through your SCART connection. This is confirmed in the video when I have to keep switching sync from RGBS to RGsB.
This is a unique situation. In the Playstation 2 menu, it has to have the Component Out set to RGB. This will ensure you have the right color space and sync set. The set up which includes the Gscartsw is just for SCART to DSUB15 conversion and nothing else. In any game that supports 480p+, you're forcing an RGsB signal through the SCART cable. From my understanding, the PS2 will still maintain the RGB color space, but the software will allow for the signal sync to be switched. I believe this is the case since the PS2 treats RGsB as component.
@@Ex_Savior by that time it wasn't of my knowledge that the PS2 outputs 480p in RGsB and 480i I'm RGBs and both of them on YPbPr. But I appreciate your help the same way.
Wait, this is not a pvm....it is a bvm, correct? Why are people on this thread calling it a pvm. I just purchased a bvm A24 with a 68x component card. I know that my bvm accepts resolution all the way up to a 1080i. I can see that you have a bvm also, which obviously accepts that resolution signal, or you WOULD NOT get it from any console!
Correct. This is a BVM D24. I'm not sure why people are calling it a PVM. And that's awesome! Congrats on getting the A24! If you are having sync issues with some of your consoles, you should consider getting the 68X replacement card. I think Castlemania still has a few in stock or so. castlemaniagames.com/collections/frontpage/products/bkm-68x
@@Ex_Savior Actually, I had also purchased a D24 BVM, and I have sold them both on Ebay. I hate to be a gouger.....but I paid almost $5000.00 for each one, and I sold them for $5000.00 to 2 different buyers, so, I have them no more!
Hi bro i am from Europe but I use scart for output I have a samsung led TV and when I try to play gt4 sellecting 1080i makes my screen black(my ps2 is modded with freemcboot)
It can, the only problem is that the PS2 AV out connector uses the same pins for both RGB and Component(Red/ChromaR, Green/Luma+Sync, Blue, ChromaB) , and, in a normal situation, when you use component at 480p, the separate sync signal used for Composite and RGB is powered off and only the sync on the luma pin is activated cause a component signal pick up the sync from the luma signal, but if you use an RGB Cable, the sync pin used for the RGB signal is powered off and the image will display but out of sync, and you'll need really high end equipment that does have the possibility to pick up the sync from the Green pin of RGB, like the equipment the guy has. That's because the Sync On Green is not a standard obviously and pratically nobody needs it
@@francescocastaldo7469 What devices can output, and importantly, accept an HD signal via SCART? Perhaps there's something in Japan I don't know about, but I've not heard of a single such device here in Europe, even devices with both connectors always only output HD via HDMI and 576i via SCART.
@@MarioAtheonio The PS2 os the only device I know that can output higher resolutions via SCART, if we don't consider a PC with a VGA to SCART Adapter, and oly professional CRTs supports higher resolutions, like the sony the guy has
@@francescocastaldo7469 what if I buy a sync on green rgb-scart cable, will it do the work for my normal hd-tv? Another try that comes to mind is to set ps2 to Y-Pb-Pr. With scart-rgb it displays picture in shades of green in SD resolutions, but what if you switch to 1080i?? Probably nothing good, but I'll try :D
SCART is a video signal standard that originated in Europe, France in particular, and has become more popular in the US in the gaming world over the past few years.
Well, think about what you just said. SCART can also do Composite. If the title of my video reads "PS2 running on 1080i through SCART", then someone watching this video should automatically know that you cannot get a 1080i resolution via a Composite signal. To point out that SCART also outputs Composite is irrelevant on many levels here.
@@Ex_Savior you're assuming everyone that watches your videos already knows. I'm sure there are knew people trying to learn. Thanks for your video. I learned from it too
If a 1080i signal is not being sent through the SCART signal, then can you explain in further detail why the BVM displays 1080/60I on the bottom left corner of the screen?
@@Ex_Savior The BVM input accepts this signal through the scart, standard crt televisions on scart input do not accept it because they cannot display higher resolution than they can, while flat screen tvs do not tolerate more than 480p in their scart video input. But certainly also because you have a box between your tv and the ps2 at 6:27 (what is it?),because normally the ps2 should not actually output a 1080i signal through the scart, since you have to select yuv output from the console menu. I've just understand,you've activate syncronization of sync luma to have the green signal in scart (yuv selected in the ps2 menu before).
Toastymage 85 haha! This isn't a TV but a monitor. And yeah it would be nice to have a better camera, but you're the only person who's ever complained about it. You just can't please everyone.
Fun fact! This game isn't actually in real 1080i. That's because the PS2 isn't powerful enough to natively render games in either 720p or 1080i. The PS2 instead simply up scales the 480i native resolution of the game, to 1080i via software. The PS2 is woefully underpowered for HD and doesn't have near enough ram to push native 720p/1080i resolutions. There is a massive difference between upscaled 1080i and Native 1080i. And the PS2 could never do native 1080i with just a mere 32MB of ram. Not to mention the GPU is completely inadequate for native HD.
Wow thanks for sharing! I remember simply liking the original Xbox more because of it was very 480p friendly. The PS2 barely released 480p titles to begin with.
People using emulators like PCSX2 have confirmed that "1080i" mode is not just 480i upscaled. Apparenlty it's just 640x540p. A TV only needs a minimum 540 horizontal lines for 1080i mode. This isn't amazing tbh since PS2 PAL region games run at 576P which is higher horizontal resolution lol. You are getting just a slightly sharper image doing that though over 480P (If your TV was actually good at displaying upscaled 1080i)
Apparently this is a new found glory for us Americans, since we've never heard of it or seen it. I think it's starting to die out. I can safely say to myself component is much easier to work with and have currently switched back to using it for all my consoles.
