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Pulling BACK the CURTAIN on Audyssey | Get Better Sound From Your Home Theater 

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By default, Audyssey attempts to correct frequencies from 20Hz to 20,000Hz. But what if we told Audyssey not to correct above a certain frequency? Could it improve the sound quality in your home theater?
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@Macbride525
@Macbride525 3 месяца назад
Thank you, it felt like all the highs were muffled but now, sound is so clear and foward
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 месяца назад
I’m glad you found the video helpful
@TheRealSchnitti
@TheRealSchnitti 3 года назад
Please do more videos about the Audyssey App and it's features ;)
@drew5955
@drew5955 2 года назад
Thanks, I finally have my system dialed in to my liking!!! Appreciate youthman, Joe n tell, techno dad, audioholics, and everyone else I may have missed. From choosing speakers, to my reciever, to placement, and calibration all you guys were and still are a great help!!!
@Jason-wc3fh
@Jason-wc3fh 3 года назад
This is pretty cool. Although paying so much money for the Marantz Receiver, I can't help but find it a rip off to then pay EXTRA money for an app on my phone to further fine tune sound settings. Definitely not something we had to worry about with our pre-WIFI receivers.
@sjsphotog
@sjsphotog 2 года назад
they know if you paid 2k-4k for the AVR you can pay $20 for the app :) easy upsell. they (everyone) always leaves something off that you want...like a lighted remote for the TV to upsell that :)
@omardelgado9337
@omardelgado9337 2 года назад
This just made me smile all over again. This set up is a night and day difference. Thanks Michael and Joe...
@mikemmikem2758
@mikemmikem2758 3 года назад
I've had Audyssey on/off enough times to buy a new house. A friend of mine is a professional in the A/V business. He told me many years ago that you can measure and calibrate anything to certain software/hardware specs - but in the end you have to satisfy your ears, and that's what matters most. I have the Denon 3700H and on the remote there are 4 buttons for sound mode. One of them is Pure mode and that is what I now use for watching tv. Regardless of any software approaches they are all designed to imitate a natural product - how the brain perceives and 'decodes' sound. And that sound is analog; and all the software/hardware tricks trying to 'digitize' that will never succeed. Calibration software makes a lot of grand assumptions and measurements (while technically correct) could be spot on. The justification phrase being, "It measures well." However, how does that sound to one's ears? One last point is that movie sound is always relative to the sound design and engineer who mixed it - hence the voluminous complaints of garbled center channel dialog - when in fact it has nothing to do with the speaker, but in how the center channel was originally mixed. I usually have my center channel increased to +3.0.
@MarcusMaximus909
@MarcusMaximus909 3 года назад
Run a new full calibration on my 7015...set the new curtain at 400 htz, turned midrange compensation off on all speakers. Updated my personal settings. I havent had time to play with this yet, but my first thoughts are, it doesn't have have a harshness that without the curtain has..its a smooth detailed presentation. Will do comparisons but I like what I hear. I knew nothing about this so thanks @youthman...really appreciated 🙏
@33kw
@33kw 3 года назад
Wow! I haven't had this much fun making changes to my setup and hearing results immediately. Thank you for all the many tutorials over the past few years since starting your channel. I have learned so much but this one was Fun.
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 года назад
That’s great to hear Dennis! I’ve got some exciting things I’ll be announcing in the near future
@andybell490
@andybell490 3 года назад
Thank you for making this video. I’ve had the Audyssey app for 3 years and never knew how to make any adjustments. This is so easy.
@caesarc.4079
@caesarc.4079 3 года назад
Michael, you are AWESOME 👏 . I have done some testing and so far I like how it sounds. A bit more clarity and natural sound. GOD bless you!!!
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 года назад
Glad it made a difference in your setup too!
@joelane4670
@joelane4670 3 года назад
What did you end up setting ur curtain too? Caesar
@marinerules
@marinerules 2 года назад
I want to say thank you. I have my highs and my dialog clarity Back!!! My hearing isn’t as sensitive to higher frequencies like they were 10 years ago. This is nice - now I’m enjoying my sound again !!!!!
@sniperkj
@sniperkj 3 года назад
What I like about your videos are that you are very informative and humble about your knowledge. Unlike other people that shall remain nameless that toots their own horn at times.
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 года назад
Thank you kindly. I just know that I don’t know at all and I’m continually learning. Have a blessed weekend
@LMtubes
@LMtubes 3 года назад
Good video however I would caution those with heavily treated listening/ theater rooms (such as mine) . In my room all walls and ceiling are 2 layers of 5/8” acoustic drywall with heavy “Safe and Sound “ insulation behind drywall. The acoustics are not optimal at all although the room is extremely quiet and relatively “sound proof”. I also put up acoustic panels on all walls and a few ceiling treatments to handle reflections. Using room correction on the upper frequencies is now a must to bring the life, detail and air back to the high end. Without it things are dull and rolled off. Experiment is my suggestion :) Thanks for your videos....always enjoyable to watch.
@rindershow212
@rindershow212 Месяц назад
So are you saying because your room is heavily treated, one shouldn't roll back the frequency Hz??
@davidjeanpierre2358
@davidjeanpierre2358 3 года назад
Great video youthman! I read about this tweak a few weeks ago and tried it.i turned off midrange comp and limited audessey correction to 500hz and my system sounded much better with a smoother top end that wasn't harsh like before.
@pinoy1hitko
@pinoy1hitko 3 года назад
Great video on explanation. I ended up purchasing the app, and WOW, what a difference it makes adjusting the "curtain" to limit the higher frequencies!!! Thanks @Youthman
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 года назад
Glad to help
@BuildITWithBrian
@BuildITWithBrian 3 года назад
Probably a good idea to check your levels on all your speakers after applying the curtain as the SPL post curtain might have changed. I have tried this a couple times before but need to go back and try it again. Thanks for the video Michael!
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 года назад
Thanks I will check to see if they changed
@mikemmikem2758
@mikemmikem2758 Год назад
Audyssey is by no means infallible. In fact, don't assume all is well after running the Audyssey calibration. It is a good starting point but after running the setup get an SPL meter to fine tune the audio. What Audyssey really gets wrong is subwoofer measurements. I recently ran Audyssey again and Audyssey measured my 2 SVS PB1000 at -7.5 and -6.0. My SPL meter measured them at +2.0 and +3.5 dB ref level 70dB. Audyssey measured my 4 SVS Elevation surrounds at -2.0, -1.5, -2.5 -2.5. I like to run my surrounds a little 'hot' so I set the surround SPL levels at +6 with the surrounds now at +1.5, +1.5, +0.5, +1.5dB. The ultimate criteria for me is not what is measured technically but how does the system sound to me. I am a happy camper with my setup. I'm sure a sound engineer would do measurements out the wazoo and tell me my system is not 'optimized' but I could care less. One other Audyssey setting I change is the MultiEqXT32 from Reference level to Flat. I have also found that while Dolby Atmos has its virtues it is also not infallible. Many times I've preferred Dolby TrueHD over Atmos. One last thing is that, while enjoy Youthman's videos, he incorrectly states that the SPL meter should be set as A -Fast for speakers and C-Slow for subs. However, A weighting measures noise (OHSA standard) not volume level. C-Slow for subs is correct. Another 'controversy' is how to place the SPL mic. I place it vertically considering that the Audyssey mic is vertical. Just some thoughts and observations.
@MasterMark5
@MasterMark5 2 года назад
Youthman I just purchased the app and tried your exact method and my god the improvement was immediate and shocking how much better it sounds now. I can't believe how much audyssey was doing to the speakers, the thick heavy curtain has been removed and I can finally hear what my speakers actually sound like now. Can't thank you enough!
@Youthman
@Youthman 2 года назад
Fantastic!
@MasterMark5
@MasterMark5 2 года назад
@@Youthman Does Dirac live and other room corrections have similar quirks? Or is it only audyssey?
@Youthman
@Youthman 2 года назад
I have limited experience with Dirac Live. Only have had two units with Dirac
@MasterMark5
@MasterMark5 2 года назад
@@Youthman Apparently trinnov has the best room correction next to Dirac, room perfect I wasn't that impressed by on McIntosh and audyssey xt32 seems to do a decent job. After you lift the curtain of course lol
@Youthman
@Youthman 2 года назад
I would hope so for a $16,000 processor 🤣
@macydezort
@macydezort 3 года назад
Thanks for this video. I've been waiting some instructions on how to use this app correctly . I'm going to try it and let you know what I think. Thanks again.
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 года назад
That’s only part of what the app can do
@JagadeeshPolepalli
@JagadeeshPolepalli 3 года назад
@@Youthman true.. Not many videos are there to help us to fix avr issues
@jim_wiley
@jim_wiley 3 года назад
Thank you Youthman for this tip! Ran the curve on my Denon AVR-6700 , my sound vastly improved!
@reznone6900
@reznone6900 Год назад
What did you use?
@richardmyers7181
@richardmyers7181 3 года назад
Youthman thankyou ever so mutch for this audessy instruction i was waiting for Someone to show me how to use this properly spare change show on this app but didn’t show how to use it once again thanks very much from Richard in Ireland
@CanDoo321
@CanDoo321 3 года назад
I agree 100%, it’s nice to see Youthman getting into the guts.
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 года назад
Thanks Richard. Glad you found the video helpful.
@m4nc1n1
@m4nc1n1 3 года назад
@@Youthman i sure did! I didn't know the copy trick in the editor app... Very useful. I'm glad i found you. I love how you go around and show other people's HT. And not just the fancy 100k ones lol.
@joentell
@joentell 3 года назад
Glad you were able to try it! Nice shirt btw!
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 года назад
Thanks Joe. Appreciate the tip! Also the shirt is SUPER comfy
@m4nc1n1
@m4nc1n1 3 года назад
I just did it and it does help, but i tried it with midrange compensation on and still didn't like it much. Now i'm trying it with 500hz curtain AND midrange compensation off. Much better! There is just something magical about turning MRC off!
@amenities1
@amenities1 3 года назад
Will do difference if only using the AVR hence I have no DAP, processor or amplifier.
@timfloyd9397
@timfloyd9397 3 года назад
It sounds even better with audyssey off completely. I’ve been testing a denon 4500 vs pioneer elite 904 and the difference is astounding. With audyssey off the denon sounds much better though. Still not as good as the pioneer though.
@thiagodelgado3128
@thiagodelgado3128 3 года назад
Can you show The curve in rew with and without CUT?
@John-vh1fk
@John-vh1fk 11 месяцев назад
I started using this app a few days ago after struggling for months to dial in my system. I had an S710 Denon at my old house that I never had an issue with. buyers asked to keep it so I bought an S760 Denon. This new Denon even after running audyssey had very low dialogue but very loud action scenes. Using this editor app and applying a curtain really helped a lot!
@douglasberry9168
@douglasberry9168 2 года назад
I finally bought the app and boy am I glad I did. Every time I calibrated my system the subs were always coming out very low or the final result was -12 on both subs. I would keep trying until I got a calibration that wasn't makes out on the lowest setting. My PSA's we're not coming out right until I used this app. Every time I have used it the final setting came out to -7.5 and it sounded amazing even at a flat level. I bumped it 2db and it is absolutely amazing now. I don't understand why the calibration is right when I use the app but not just using the Denon setup procedure. I put up a 500Hz curtain and WOW. My Paradigm setup sounds amazing! Thanks for the tip.
@Youthman
@Youthman 2 года назад
Fantastic! Glad your system sounds better than ever
@TheWs25
@TheWs25 3 года назад
I have always thought audyssey muddies the channels, especially the centre. For a while now I run the in-ceiling atmos and rear speakers with a 500hz curtain, but my front LCR I slide ALL the way to the left - I have the curtains completely closed! My system has never sounded better, especially my RP-504C centre channel, vocals are crystal clear now 👍🏻
@lawrencelingard8891
@lawrencelingard8891 3 года назад
You hit another homer for me again bro thanks. I just recalibrate mine last weekend and I was really not liking what happened to the sound of my speakers. My klipsch speakers sounded real dull all of the sudden. Did the 500hz curtain today and it sounds so much better. Plus it gave me a reason to use the app beside when I recalibrate. Thanks again
@alanl6105
@alanl6105 2 года назад
I tried this and it works great. Thank you so much.
@Agent-fg9ol
@Agent-fg9ol 3 года назад
I have preferred cutting of audyssey at 300hz, I find that works better in my room. I wish there was a way to apply this cut before running audyssey, that way whatever amount of parametric eq options used by audyssey can be maximized within the band you really need it applied. I've also taken mine one step further and taken the curtain for the sub all the way down to 20hz. I measured the response of my subs before and after running audyssey and found I had a flatter response with audyssey off on the sub channel. Then I just used the minidsp 2x4hd to further flatten and I'm in audio heaven.
@martheunen
@martheunen 3 года назад
This! REW measurements and then REW EQ to minidsp worked great for me. Audyssey did not improve subs at all. So turn down audyssey eq on subs all the way if you have other means of eq'ing your sub(s). Also, change the crossover to between 80hz ~ 120hz and change distance setting for subs in AVR as well as sub level and remeasure for smooth transition from sub(s) to mains.
@logan1966
@logan1966 3 года назад
I was wondering if you can remove the subwoofer eq from Audyssey because I always found my subs sound so much more impactful without Audyssey. I love what it does for my main speakers but not the subwoofers.
@Agent-fg9ol
@Agent-fg9ol 3 года назад
@@logan1966 you can try adjusting the cut off point in the app for the sub... I take mine right down to 20hz. I could be wrong but I don't think audyssey makes changes below that frequency.
@logan1966
@logan1966 3 года назад
@@Agent-fg9ol That would be fine for me. I would like to adjust the frequency for the subs myself. I have a separate sub equalizer....thanks.
@MrGuss1963
@MrGuss1963 3 года назад
Excellent explanation for the EQ Odyssey very well done youth men It works on my 88 0 5 at 500 Hz sweet spot
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 года назад
Thank you. Glad the video was helpful
@christopherlewis3615
@christopherlewis3615 3 года назад
Got my denon 4700h coming in the morning!!!!!!! Can't wait! Marantz and Denons genius knows no bounds!
@uceddiemo
@uceddiemo 3 года назад
One of the Best Tutorials Yet, I watch Joe N Tell video and Yours , No disrespect to Joe but you video was easier for me to understand, Thanks for Sharing
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 года назад
Thank you kindly. We all have different teaching styles.
@forestelder
@forestelder 3 года назад
What about the midrange dip aka "BBC dip "? Is it disabled when you apply this tweak?
@chrism9976
@chrism9976 Год назад
Great tip! Sounds much better for 2 channel music on my AV7706. Doesn't sound like my system is confined to a box. However, it doesn't sound as good as the IOATAVX AVX17 that I'm about to send back. It's too buggy for me, but it's eq correction makes my old M&K 750's and subwoofer come alive like I've never heard.
@Quetzalcoatl0
@Quetzalcoatl0 3 года назад
I have a umik 1 and did some testing with and without audessey. The graph showed that it did something but the change was soo small it wasn't worth it. Maybe it's because i'm using the lowest of audessey versions or because of the curtain. Thanks for this video! will give it a try some day.
@init4fun
@init4fun 10 месяцев назад
@Youthman, funny that my Marantz SR5013 and my ELAC UB52's & ELAC S10.2 sub are a little shrill/harsh with Audyssey EQ'ing the higher frequencies and the midrange compensation lifted (off), so I've had to use this curtain to dial back higher frequencies that sound a little over-processed to me. I know of what you speak about Klipsch speakers w/horn tweeters, as I've owned a pair of floorstanders. They're a little bright. Thanks for sharing, bud. All the best.
@felipezitzmann
@felipezitzmann 3 года назад
Excellent video and information. I’m using the curtain at 700 Hz and works fantastic. Thank you !
@NES088
@NES088 3 года назад
Home theater gurus suggested this, I tried it at 400hz with my RP-600M/C and it sounded much to bright for my ears, I set it back to full range. But at least I was able to turn off midrange compensation
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 года назад
The key is to try different settings to see what sounds best to your ears and also see what sounds best in your room
@justplainlawr
@justplainlawr 3 года назад
One of the features from the new 2020 lineup of receivers is the ability to make multiple measurements and switch between preset, kinda like memory 1, memory 2. Like having a music preset and a movies preset. Having the ability to make multiple measurements in the app, duplicate them, make changes before you upload back to the receiver is more flexibility than what the new receivers offer.
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 года назад
I agree but having both is even better.
@Emperor36
@Emperor36 3 года назад
Wow I'm noticing a difference already on my AV8805 Sounds amazing. Thank you Youthman!!
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 года назад
Glad it has improved your sound.
@arturocruz6882
@arturocruz6882 3 года назад
@@Youthman Ola amigó de Puerto Rico 💪😷
@brnmaull
@brnmaull 3 года назад
How you doing Youthman? I really appreciate you making this video. I been thinking about getting the app for a while now. Now with your clear instructions im definitely going to get it. Thanks again man! Stay safe
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 года назад
Glad you are enjoying the content.
@2011Au
@2011Au 3 года назад
Thanks for the video. I pulled back the curtain on 700Hz. I can confirm the improvement in sound is quite noticable particularly on the base! Now I have the same punch that I used to experience with my former Denon. I watched Wonder Woman in 4k with my SR8012 and the dual SVS PB2000 just shaked the room with insane sound quality. Highly recommended!
@UnitedRedDevil13
@UnitedRedDevil13 Год назад
So you’re using reference and not flat? With the curtain?
@PaulStewartPositivePaul
@PaulStewartPositivePaul 3 года назад
That seems very similar to the AudioControl Bijou equalizer. If I remember correctly the THX standard wouldn’t allow you to equalize any of the higher frequencies. I’m very curious to try this out on my system. Thank you for taking the time to make this video. I had some similar concerns with my system and the Audyssey settings with my Klipsch speakers.
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 года назад
Glad you found the video helpful Paul
@brucecarter6205
@brucecarter6205 3 года назад
Good video Youthman. One word of caution that I learned directly from the folks at Audyssey.....DO NOT use the internal AVR/processor test tones to double check your channel levels with a SPL meter after running Audyssey, as the internal test tones bypass all Audyssey processing and equalization. If you feel the need to do so, it is recommended to use the test tones from an external source, such as a calibration test disc.
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 года назад
Thanks for the tip I have never heard that before.
@brucecarter6205
@brucecarter6205 3 года назад
@@Youthman, I used to do the meter thing with the internal test tones as well, until learning this very important factor. It makes perfect sense why the Audyssey mic and your SPL meter don’t match up after you learn this very important bit of info.
@Analyzer52
@Analyzer52 3 года назад
Never heard this either will have to give it a try
@konior21
@konior21 3 года назад
Yup, came here to say this.
@OG1983
@OG1983 3 года назад
This is what I needed! Never saw the real benefit of buying the app. As I am the proud owner of the Denon A110 paired with the new S702S2’s from B&W I can now hear so much more detail compared to the ‘basic’ Audyssey calibration. Huge thank you for this video! Keep up the great work.
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 года назад
Glad you found it helpful
@sjsphotog
@sjsphotog 2 года назад
very cool Youthman. Hope I can get a new Denon AVR soon to be able to check out this cool feature. Keep up the great work
@yardman0001
@yardman0001 2 года назад
Great video, just what I was looking for.
@DerekBove
@DerekBove 3 года назад
I wish YPAO was this flexible. This is really important and I need to do it myself. JBL 5 series speakers tail off around 14khz, so room correction is always boosting the high frequency. Probably has led to an overly bright sound.
@junior-OG
@junior-OG 3 года назад
you can do the same with ypao
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 года назад
Derek probably would be glad if you shared with him how
@RabidFace
@RabidFace 3 года назад
You can do the same, but not nearly as easy because there is no app support to see your calibrations or mess with settings within the app. I watched this video with the soul purpose of seeing what you were going to say as see what I would have to do with YAPO. I have a Yamaha 7850 and everything has to be done on the AVR. You can manually set the canned frequencies and what dB. So, my guess is to set one to 300, 500, etc and set it to 0 dB and then leave all other frequencies as is. I am not at home but will definitely be looking in to this later. YAPO can also have 2 calibrations, I think. I forget exactly, but you copy the initial calibration to Custom I believe.
@lbm281981
@lbm281981 3 года назад
Yes you can. Just manually zero out all the frequency that you don't want affected.
@MAURTICE913
@MAURTICE913 3 года назад
I Love your channel. Thank you for the Audyssey tip sound is much better. The hits are cracking during Sunday football watching and music is very tight and clear.
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 года назад
Awesome! Glad you found it an improvement
@mdoh8209
@mdoh8209 3 года назад
Good video youthman I had a go and it dose make a difference cheers for the tip looking forward to the next vid 👍
@mwcoater
@mwcoater 3 года назад
Youthman I have done the same thing with my system. But I have let the center go to 3K and bumped up the range between 500Hz to 3K by 3db or so to help add some clarity too vocals. I prefer this in my heavily damped living room.
@jonsanchez1623
@jonsanchez1623 3 года назад
Thanks Sir for the learning session on a Friday! Day is made 🎛➿🔊 you YM be blessed 🙏
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 года назад
Glad you found it helpful Jon
@mfkhometheater7742
@mfkhometheater7742 3 года назад
Yes definitely limit the frequency range any auto correction controls. I don't use auto correction at all but if I did I would limit it to controlling low frequency room modes only, maybe a couple hundred Hz and below at most. It's always better to do it all manually, just get the miniDSP, a good mic and software and dial it in.
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 года назад
While manual calibration has its benefits, a lot of people will never own a mini DSP or do full manual calibration.
@mfkhometheater7742
@mfkhometheater7742 3 года назад
@@Youthman Probably true, I come from a background of designing and building active analog crossover/EQ's so for me manually setting up a miniDSP is automated. I don't have to solder in different components to make adjustments anymore:-)
@mustangfred2006
@mustangfred2006 3 года назад
Super helpful. Thanks Youthman
@SpecOfTech
@SpecOfTech 3 года назад
Great info Mike, thanks for sharing. Did you take any REW measurements to see if it could show what you are hearing?
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 года назад
No I haven’t ran any REW measurements. I have a few other videos that I need to shoot first.
@coachvelarde
@coachvelarde Год назад
Great video!! I have a couple of questions. Here is my setup: Denon 4700 Klipsch R-625FA Dolby Atmos Floor stand speakers Klipsch RP- 504C II center channel Klipsch R-41M Bookshelf speakers Klipsch R-12SW subwoofer 1-What are your suggestions for the crossover settings? 2- What are your suggestions for the db level for all the speakers? This is where I am confused.
@rindershow212
@rindershow212 9 месяцев назад
Start with a bass line of 80hz for your cross over. You asked about dB levels. No one can answer that for you. It's your space. Just calibrate your system with whatever software calibration tool it came with. And leave it at that. And if you know what you're doing then you can get you an spl meter and go back into menu after calibration and set all speakers levels so they are the same which is usually 75db
@avtechman77
@avtechman77 3 года назад
Youthman..Great video man. Keep up the good work
@uncharted3isthebest810
@uncharted3isthebest810 3 года назад
Will this result in more accurate sound, or more preferable sound? I’m someone who tries to get the most accurate sound. If anyone knows, I’d greatly appreciate your response!!
@markdemariassy8685
@markdemariassy8685 3 года назад
Great video, thanks for that. The way others have described it, it sounded like they applied the curtain/limiter before they ran Audyssey at all, which sounded like a lot more hassle. Your way sounds better and much more straight forward. 👍
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 года назад
Thanks glad you enjoyed the content
@JavierSN95
@JavierSN95 6 месяцев назад
@Youthman did you check the levels after curtain, should they be re adjusted if needed
@Youthman
@Youthman 6 месяцев назад
Yes, Level matching is the last step.
@danielseguin913
@danielseguin913 3 года назад
Great subject. Thanks for sharing.
@sushibeno
@sushibeno Год назад
Thank you soo much, l just tried it on my new Denon AVR-X3800H, l set it at 500Hz and it sounds amazing!!😃
@Alaw_83
@Alaw_83 4 месяца назад
What crossovers have you got with this
@anthonykeve8894
@anthonykeve8894 2 года назад
Interesting… I wonder how much difference this would make if the speakers were neutral above 500hz, bloated beneath 500, or just the opposite of bright. My Outlaw has proprietary calibration built in though I’ve used it only to tame a peak in the .1 channel. I’ve used just a touch of cut here and there using the DSP PEQ in the 3 party EXOs used to bi & Tri-amp my channels. Not helpful I’m sorry to say
@elongatuspiranha
@elongatuspiranha 3 года назад
I never correct to 20khz. Never a good idea. Even on the best room correction softwares. Around 2khz should be the max. On the lcr I do no more then 500hz.
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 года назад
This was the first time I had tried it. Glad I did
@rayc9838
@rayc9838 3 года назад
Great info. I need to look into this.
@TylerStout
@TylerStout 3 года назад
I tried this a while ago when Gene made a video about it and it reduces the harshness of my speakers. Haven't figured out if i like it better than using the harmon curve (+2db at 20Hz and -8db at 20KHz flat line) but both sound much better than just turning MRC off and doing nothing.
@jacobsteele7138
@jacobsteele7138 Год назад
This is just what I was looking for.
@Youthman
@Youthman Год назад
Glad you found the video helpful
@m4nc1n1
@m4nc1n1 3 года назад
Youthman have you tried no curtain, but turn off Midrange Compensation? Someone recommended to turn it off on all speakers before you upload so I did. And OMG what a difference! Not only does it sound better it also gave me about a 10db gain. Where I used to be at 68 to watch a movie I am now at 58 with the same volume. I will try the 500hz curtain next.
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 года назад
Thanks Jerry. I have not tried turning off midrange compensation. Someone else recommended it as well. I’ll give it a try
@m4nc1n1
@m4nc1n1 3 года назад
@@Youthman I'm curious about your results. Please let me know your thoughts after you do.
@stevewithf5847
@stevewithf5847 3 года назад
@@Youthman try it, it is only necessary for the Center.
@m4nc1n1
@m4nc1n1 3 года назад
@@stevewithf5847 i turn it off on all speakers. If I feel like something needs to be dipped I will do it myself lol.
@m4nc1n1
@m4nc1n1 3 года назад
@@Youthman So after this talk I did some testing Saturday night. First I turned Midrange Compensation back on and immediately hated it. Then I still left it on and did the 500hz curtain and still did not like it...it helped some but still no way I was leaving it on. Then I went back to the original setting that was no curtain and Midrange Compensation off and it sounded fantastic again. Then I tried it with the 500hz curtain and midrange compensation still off and I can't really say if it was better or worse. I need to A/B some more but for now, I went back to the way I had because I absolutely love the way it sounds after I turned off Midrange Compensation. I definitely can't say that leaving correction on up to 20khz is actually messing anything up on my system in that room.
@number1pappy
@number1pappy Год назад
This is awesome! Thanks 😊
@Dave-we1yl
@Dave-we1yl 3 года назад
Thanks always enjoy these how to videos
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 года назад
Glad you find it helpful
@LifeofBliss
@LifeofBliss 3 года назад
Pretty cool option. So many different things you can do with EQ these days with a touch of a button...
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 года назад
For sure. I learn something new every day
@nanao1267
@nanao1267 3 года назад
Another good content..Thanks again
@stefanlasser6535
@stefanlasser6535 3 года назад
Hy! One major bug i found out on my Denon X4400h a while ago: The frequency limit only works in Audyssey "Flat" mode. "Reference" still applied the filter up to 20kHz!!! I did some measurements to verify that. Really strange!
@matsudakodo
@matsudakodo 3 года назад
It's the opposite. App settings only work with Reference.
@toddlippard3401
@toddlippard3401 3 года назад
Youthman! thanks for another great video. Question, do you think Audyssey is good enough to replace Dirac live all together or are using both?
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 года назад
Typically you would use one or the other, not a combination of both. Most people feel that Dirac offers better room correction then Audyssey
@babymaker13th
@babymaker13th 3 года назад
im going to give it a try , thank you also how are we doing with the demo disks ?? ,
@alphapie1428
@alphapie1428 3 года назад
Basically a low pass filter. Didnt know I could do this in the app. I will have to try this!
@sn4k3t56
@sn4k3t56 3 года назад
what setting would I put MultEQ® XT32 on reference, flat or off? what happens if i turn it off thank you
@rosstee
@rosstee 3 года назад
I have mine in flat currently, which I believe has a similar effect to this curtain trick (not rolling off the higher frequencies), though I need to try this curtain method as it may be more effective.
@Porfmasterflex21
@Porfmasterflex21 3 года назад
Noice! 👍🏼. You know, the other day, when we discussing about the curtain filter, I totally forgot to ask you a question about if you put curtain on the sub as well. But since you made the video, you’ve answered my question hahaha. Yeah, I’m giving it another shot with my setup. I’ve been running this week with 500hz curtain, and now, I will try with 400hz and see how I feel about it.
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 года назад
Cool. Let me know what you find
@Porfmasterflex21
@Porfmasterflex21 3 года назад
@@Youthman For sure, I’ll keep you posted. Blessings.
@upinztube
@upinztube 10 месяцев назад
Seems legit, i gonna try it, thanks !
@MarcusMaximus909
@MarcusMaximus909 3 года назад
Youthman is the curtain available for the reference setting and flat, as some people are saying the curtain is just available for flat only
@ignaciorodrig
@ignaciorodrig 3 года назад
The setting is applied to the Reference curve Only. Changes done in the Audissey App are ignored when in Flat curve mode.
@Supden90
@Supden90 3 года назад
Every time I watch your videos I end up buying something, this time it’s a iPad app lol 😂 but thanks for the great informative video 🤘🏻
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 года назад
I’m know. For being a bad influence on people’s wallets 🤣
@MrNorcal81
@MrNorcal81 10 месяцев назад
Great video Michael. My system has an RSL CG23-CG250CG23 front array, CG3s as surrounds, SVS Prime Elevations as F/R Heights and an SVS SB-3000 sub. I finally started playing around with the editor this week but the curtain, unfortunately, had a negative effect at various frequency settings. I did turn off mid-range compensation on both the "curtained" and default configurations and loaded each into my Denon's presets. A-B comparisons resulted in "muddy" sounding voices on the curtained setup and much crisper voices on the default configuration. Maybe the limiter was overcompensating but this was the case at all of the frequency settings that I tried. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Also, if you're doing an audyssey calibration run from the app and some extraneous noise occurs at one microphone position, how do you go back and repeat that one? Do you have to wait for it to finish that position and then hit cancel? When this happens with an Audyssey run on the AVR, you can just cancel at any time and it will redo that position. Thanks
@AdryDoic
@AdryDoic 8 месяцев назад
seeing your audyssey curves .. im wondering how you guys like such a flat response in low frequency? with Dynamic Eq off i have almost a Harman curve with in app +12db 50hz to +4db 160hz to 2000hz + 1 ! for the rest i have good quality towers and i think for sure they made a good crossover so why we all have to cut that with audyssey 👍
@VividTheater
@VividTheater 3 года назад
Youthman, do you mind showing a REW graph comparing the curtain correct response to the full Audyssey corrected response?
@SS-cs6wt
@SS-cs6wt Год назад
I have the same marantz processor and I don’t get the preset pop up when uploading a profile?
@AmericanMuscle1967
@AmericanMuscle1967 3 года назад
App is great, have had it awhile. I have midrange comp off. This app is a lot better than what's on the receiver. I will give this a shot, it makes a lot of sense.
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 года назад
I too leave midrange compensation off.
@AmericanMuscle1967
@AmericanMuscle1967 3 года назад
@@Youthman After a few days of enjoying the change, I am glad I did! Great video as always.
@Youthman
@Youthman 3 года назад
Thank you
@mdoh8209
@mdoh8209 3 года назад
Hey Michael just a question , so I re ran audyssey in the app made a few adjustments and also I made the curtain all the way down for the subs to 20hz so then my mini dsp does all the work because if I run Audyssey after I have done my mini dsp settings the Audyssey try’s to make a flat response when I already have done this in the mini dsp so then it ruins the frequency range in my subs output from after to dsp. Don’t know if that makes sense but I have re ran Rew after audyssey and it ruins my curve I had already from just my mini dsp.
@davethestalker
@davethestalker 3 года назад
It would be lovely if Denin would allow the Audyssey app to be compatible with the x7200wa FFS! I made some changes in Amp Assign, added 2 more Atmos speakers (4), and now Audyssey DSX is available when there is Dolby Digital content present.
@matsudakodo
@matsudakodo 3 года назад
350 Hz sounds best on my system but for the opposite reason: Audyssey artificially boosts my in-room response to flat, which is wrong. In-room response should be naturally declining for neutral speakers.
@everettspain2739
@everettspain2739 3 года назад
Do I run this app against my current internal config of Audyssey MultEQ XT, Audyssey Dynamic EQ, and Audyssey Dynamic Volume or run the editor and upload the new settings? Will I also be required to use the Marantz provided microphone with the MultiEQ Editor?
@Kenny_Edmonton
@Kenny_Edmonton 2 года назад
So I’m running a 5.1 system with my Denon 3700 for now (plans to get more speakers) and I have no sub as I live in an apartment and I’m not sure I’ll be getting one. Does running a curtain still improve the sound without a sub?
@hellR1de
@hellR1de 3 года назад
Great video! It helped me understand some more advanced features. However I have a bit of an edgy situation. I'm using a 5-ch MM7055 Marantz to bi-amp my fronts, and I'd like them to preserve a good amount of bass, because I really want to enjoy stereo music (audiophile, here!) as much as possible, while keeping a decent 5.1.2 setup for movies. So far I've been out of luck to achieve that. I can obviously not afford a separate front pair with a stereo amp - my AVR is a Marantz SR5012 - so please.... Do you have any tips for me? I don't want to use the sub for music, so I'm more into a true 2-ch setup, than a 2.1 setup. Also, could you explain a bit about midrange compensation, for all channels? Thanks!!
@Mlock76
@Mlock76 3 года назад
Thanks a bunch for the great video! I don't currently own the Audyssey app. However, I'm certainly tempted to buy it now, especially since I recently updated my system with a new center channel and added another pair of heights. I assume this curtain process will work on the Denon X4500H?
@Fran71k
@Fran71k 3 года назад
Just acquired a Marantz 8802a w/ the Audyssey Pro kit and license; am I correct in assuming that I should be able to achieve similar results here, but my approach will differ, as the older model Marantz lacks this app connectivity?
@desoultaker
@desoultaker 3 года назад
Strange issue - I've double and triple checked - I'm not color blind - When I run my Audyssey setup, it gives me a speaker error "Please swap the two wires (red and black) on the back of the speaker -Center. Do I trust it? or do I ignore that? is that a known issue with the app? or could it be correct?? either the receiver or the speaker is actually reversed from the factory? I've ran re-ran 4-5 times and each time it tells me the same thing for my center speaker. I have a 5.1.4 and the others show up fine. I'm looking at the red connected to red and black to black - there is no mistaking the wires I have connected are correct. Also - when I'm listening to a movie in Atmos - The center channel (specifically vocals) seem to be muffled. when it's in any other mode, it's very crisp.
@calvinc5888
@calvinc5888 2 года назад
Hey Youthman. Thanks for creating great videos. I kinda got lost here after uploading the 500Hz curtain then you uploaded the default settings. It seems when uploading the defaults, it overwrites the new 500Hz curtain change you just uploaded to the AVR. Am I correct? If not, how does Audyssey know not to overwrite the MultiEQ channel changes when loading the defaults?
@JavierSN95
@JavierSN95 6 месяцев назад
what did you change your Midrange comp?
@Foreverjazzfan
@Foreverjazzfan Год назад
I had a way flatter response by letting audyssey run it fully. When I pulled back to 500 or 600HZ it was almost matching the before room correction.
@Youthman
@Youthman Год назад
Every room will be different. It’s great that you tried both ways. There’s not a right or wrong way to do it. What matters most is doing what’s best for your room.
@wilfredkioko2669
@wilfredkioko2669 2 года назад
Hi. It's not very clear from sound united about app compatibility across its receiver range. Does the app work with the AV7706?
@JDG1971
@JDG1971 3 года назад
Thanx YUTHMAN 👌✌😘👍😉
@shaner3d
@shaner3d 3 года назад
Hey @Youthman, I have a question regarding the Audyssey MultiEQ App. I just bought and installed the Marantz AV7705. I can’t figure out how to link my iPhone to the 7705 with the app. Does it require internet access??
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