Quake Live movement Tutorial: Circle Jumping 

Same here. I bought this game hoping to get the same welcoming experience I got with Quake Champions only to basically get bullied off of the game for not being good enough as a literal beginner. Maybe there's a reason no one new wants to play these games.

@@duncanrampen yeah and then the quake fans complain about no one playing the game. it's pretty funny.

@@MeatGoblin88 The people complaining aren't the bullies you moron.

@@MeatGoblin88 I mean, to be fair, when was the last time anybody finished beating every Id-released singleplayer quake campaign to date on highest difficulty? That used to be the baseline training ground. It's no wonder nobody can frag them anymore.

its not maxed out his fov is 105 (max is 130)

I had a friend that did the same thing. Very weird. Most people find circle jumping much more harder than strafe jumping, I know I did. Not everyone apparently :-/

Thanks, I appreciate that :)

Yes I have something like that planned. Though I'm not as experienced with Duels yet, but I know a bit about the theory behind it that I can tell about :)

I'd say you have a lot more inertia in QL than in the video you've linked. So sharp turns like that are a bit harder to do. I normally stop and do a quick circle jump in such situations. You lose a bit of speed, but it's normally feasible enough. In general QL is a bit slower than older Quake games from what I've seen.

LephariaGaming It's a hell of a lot slower

LephariaGaming Well, ok on second thought after playing it again it's not a HELL of a lot slower, only slightly like you said. It's actually a pretty sweet game, and does feel like it stays faithful enough to the original Quake gameplay, while updating it with certain elements. Kind of like Unreal Tournament and Quake combined.

Since I don't have access probably not. Also most questions beginning with "Will you do videos..." I can quite safely answer with "probably not".

***** Funny you'd say that, I've had a video like that planned for ages :D It just requires a bit more effort than my usual videos, that's why I haven't done it yet. But it's coming :)

I look forward to it!

I've got the same problem

Jump whilst pressing spacebar individually and hes on max fps so chances are that you'll need to do some bigger strafes, also for me at least it helps to keep a sertain tension in the strafes this helps me keep them smoothe

+Kaasu That's totally normal. I couldn't do it for the longest time until it finally clicked and I to this day can't tell you what I'm doing differently now. It must have to do with minute changes in the angles that give you the right amount of speed. So the only advice I can give you is to continue practicing and to not give up. I was there, too!

+LephariaGaming I just did it once, no idea how tho :D and now I can continuously do the first and second part of the last "challenge" on this map. So I guess yeah, slowly learning

+LephariaGaming Is there penalty for holding down space instead of just tapping it when landing. I personally can do both but I'm starting to think there is penalty if u hold it down? Is there?

Not as far as I know. Holding down the button to continuously jump was only introduced recently, though, so most seasoned players have just gotten used to tapping at this point. And just FYI: Most players have jump set to the right mouse button for convenience, but that's personal preference.

LephariaGaming It definately affects something. Just tried with tapping and with holding it down, went faster with tapping. And Well I can tap it no problem I've used to use scroll wheel to bunnyhop for years on counter-strike but on this game it's easy with just tapping space. Thanks for this guide by the way, I can now do this jump really often, not every time but often

+PseudoAccurate I'd like to see that. All pro gamers that I've seen doing that jump use the circle/strafe combination. I can't fathom how you'd get enough speed otherwise.

+LephariaGaming I'll see if I can hit it and post a video. I checked out another circle jumping video by Zoot and he described circle jumping exactly as you did so maybe a different term should be used - we always called it circle jumping in Quake2. I made basically the same comment to Zoot and he didn't know what I was talking about either. I figured he would know everything related to Quake and I'm really surprised it's not common knowledge. It can be really useful because it allows you to accelerate sideways so you can make jumps while aiming in a different direction - basically 45-90 degrees off the direction of the jump. I should correct myself and say that it SHOULD be possible to make that jump. I haven't done it yet, but I've only been playing Quake Live a few weeks. I can make the jump strafe jumping and I can almost make it circle jumping (as I describe it), and since I'm not that proficient at circle jumping I figure getting that close means it's possible. I'll post a vid if I do.

+LephariaGaming Hey, sorry if I've been acting arrogant, I wanted to know if you watched the video and if you've seen that before. I linked to another video in the description where the guy is doing all kinds of trick jumps.

Hi, sorry I didn't reply. didn't think you were being arrogant, I was just busy. I've not watched the video yet, but I will do that shortly. If Zoot doesn't know what you mean that's slightly comforting, though :D

Lol, yeah he didn't know what I meant. Let me know what you think of the video!

Also if I erase some bind and leave it empty, it auto-bind itself again, this config options are crazy haha

The interface for some reason doesn't let you do that, you'll have to use the console for this. type /bind MWHEELUP or MWHEELDOWN and then the command you want to bind in quotation marks e.g. /bind MWHEELDOWWN "weapon 5" for rocket launcher.

LephariaGaming Wow, thanks, I find your config very useful (Railgun and RL on the Wheel) thank you!

Glad you like it. Feel free to let me know if you have any more questions.

+Dolphin3007 The key is to get the feel of how fast to turn your mouse. Too fast and you don't get any momentum - too slow and you'll be pulled off center and end up not jumping straight. Too too slow and nothing happens. Watch the video and get a feel for how fast he turns his mouse and when he actually presses jump.

Nvm, i've found it :)

Wecros Glad I could help :D

LephariaGaming :D

WHERE?!

You can access the map from the Training center. Click on the menu in the top right corner, it's a bit hidden ;)

Thanks I will do it later, I think you gained a subscriber too.

Thanks, I appreciate that :)

Np

Actually I can't. Might be that you get more speed up with another angle, I'm not 100% sure about the physics behind it. I try not to overdo the math and theory on such tutorials (even more so when they're aimed at completely new players) and focus on a more hands-on approach. I'd say if you can consistently do the bridge-to-rail jump on DM6 your Circle Jump is good enough for most purposes. But of course you can contact me, preferably via Steam (either personally or through my group steamcommunity.com/groups/lephariagaming) or via email (in my channel description)

+LephariaGaming what program do you use to show keyboard and mousepresses on your screen?

It's called Nohbard. Haven't used it in a while though, so not sure whether or not it still works or is still supported: obsproject.com/forum/resources/nohboard.44/

LephariaGaming thanks :)

+Cr4z3d How does the original way work? I assume you don't literally mean "w" (ie, forward) since you can strafe or circle jump backwards (just replace "w" with "s").

+PseudoAccurate The "original way" works by STARTING with w or s, but you don't hold it down the entire time, you only use the strafe/jump keys and the mouse, basically riding the momentum of the first jump and continuing to build speed with each zig-zag motion if done correctly.

+Autistic Weeaboo Lolicon I see, the thing is I never actually played the original version of Quake 3. I'm talking about original quake/qw, in which you bhopping IS a thing. bhop originated in Quake 1, half-life came after, though hl is basically a modified version of the Quake 2 engine.

+Autistic Weeaboo Lolicon Ok, I just honestly didn't realize. What kind of dumb changes may I ask? I don't really play it much at all so. Only one I can think of is the switch to paid for new players.

+Autistic Weeaboo Lolicon Ah right, I was actually around for some of those changes as I was a Steam player to begin with, lol, back when it was still free, which I think it was an extremely stupid move to switch it FROM free to paid. It's like the opposite of what happened with TF2, though ironically enough F2P was pretty much the only way I was able to play TF2 in the 1st place. I was overjoyed when I saw that news and immediately picked up Steam XD and that's where it all started...

+Дмитрий Бельденков It works, you must practice. Circle jumping has been around since quake2 (1998).

+TheVanillatech Yes maybe you should do that. And I shall make a 90 min explanation of how to walk straight in QL, just for you :)

LephariaGaming You don't need to do that. I used to post times in the top leagues of Defrag back before it was even popular. I move pretty well consider I hardly ever play anymore. I appreciate you trying to help people learn how to move, and it IS a difficult thing to explain to newcomers. It's far easier to show them in person. No need to get upset.

You're the one acting immature. All he is doing is try to help people get into a dying community.

Gaben .gaben True. I was probably angry with something that day.

No hard feelings, both of you became awesome ♥