Qui Gon Jinn Was the Key To EVERYTHING 

Totally agree. Qui Gon was probably the biggest threat to Palatine's plans. Too much of a loose cannon that wouldn't go along with the establishment. He was beholden only to the will of the force.

It's fun y you mention that, the short story I'm reading currently is about Maul facing down a Sith Apparition of Qui Gon, in an attempt to acquire an artifact he needed for his plan. He mentioned about how even if Qui Gon defeated Maul, that Qui-Gon would've been killed by Sidious, either directly or otherwise. I just think that Sifo-Dyas and Qui-Gon would've shifted places.

But what about Count Dooku? If palpatine kills Qui-Gon, Dooku wouldn't have sided with him. Of course Dooku having doubt about the jedi but Qui-Gon is important to him and it took Qui-Gon dying to turn Dooku.

@@byrussscott2563 yes but if Qui Gon was killed by Palpy I don't think that Palpy wouldn't be discovered or that Palpy would have succeded in turning Anakin. I don't actually believe that Palpy would be able to kill Qui Gon Jin by other means than himself and even if Qui Gon Jin and Palpy fought each other I am not sure who would win in the end-Palpy had a deep fear and hatred of Qui Gon Jin-because he saw in him the possible future where his plans would fail and the jedi order woud have become more free and caring organization, also Qui Gon was unpredictable for Palpy since he wasn't thinking or acting like normal jedi would so in a possible fight to the death I actually think that Palpatine woulf have lost the battle and that Qui Gon Jin would have won, albeit heavily scared/injured from it....

@@krystalcz9251 I don't think Palpatine has hatred or fear for Qui-Gon cause Qui-Gon is a necessity for Count Dooku for him to the dark side. Palpatine needed Dooku who has distrust for both the jedi and the republic, so that's why he stage the whole thing from the occupation of naboo to being selected as new chancellor. For his plans to work needed Qui-Gon to die because he is the only one who kept Dooku turning, that's why he sent Darth Maul.

Sadly it was too little, too late. The narrow-minded ego of the council had already taken hold of the entire Order. Qui-Gon represented a true path, one the council rarely agreed with because they usually thought themselves to be the ones to know best of all.

Nice😂

He will find him...and he will train him.

“The ability to speak does not make you intelligent” 😂

@@revan629 "Whenever you gamble my friend, eventually you'll lose"

YESSS

Dooku realized he strayed from the right path, and wanted Qui GOn around to get him back to bringing a better galaxy. He was right, and the republic was corrupt, but he tried to use Palpatine thinking he can outsmart him. He was wrong. Remember , there was a group of Jedi that knew the Republic was corrupt and so was the Jedis. Dooku, Qui gon, Anakin, Asohka, and the red headed guy who is going to have another video game has characteristic of a Gray Jedi. Oh and mAce windu. Frankly there are too many people had input in Star wars, and there is a lack of direction, and this was from the beginning. There was a battle from the beginning with Lucas and his staff, but his staff has more say back then and was better quality. His wife actually saved star wars from Lucas. That is why the tone is totally different in the prequels. The thing is, the force is based on Taoism, but Lucas wants evil, and distorted the dark side to represent evil. Others who work on Star wars try to make it follow more of taoism. That is why you have inconsistent view of the dark side. I go by Qui gon Jin, that we need balance.

There was a series in the EU under the dark horse comics label.

wish granted. The sequel trilogy is now a what if series. your welcome.

@@slewone4905 That will only happen if Disney goes bankrupt and some other large corporation buys the rights. A feat even COVID and Governor DeSantis could not accomplish.

Nah it would have been worse . Palpatine would have just had her killed right under the nose of the Jedi

@@rexlevitak1 Agreed, Naboo would have been a far better place for her.

@@GoranXII Or Alderaan, before it's explosive makeover

@@generaljimmies3429 Probably more Naboo, since, you know, the queen (or one of her handmaidens, depending on how you want to play it) can vouch for her character.

No it would not. It would have given him even more attachment issues which is the real reason he fell. Not the Jedi order, not because of palpatine, not even because of qui gonn dying. He fell to the dark side because he refused to follow the rules like every other Jedi and he let his feelings and attachments control him

The Dark Side is corruption. How are dolphins inherently corrupted?

That's why he's up there with Luke as one of my favorite Jedi.

@@Keycil My very short list of the best Jedi is tight. But Luke is up there next to Gui Gon to.

@@Keycil feel like 3. Anakin qwi and Luke. ( knowledge love )

If he was still alive, Dooku would ot have fallen. Dooku was trying to use both sides to win, and thought he could outsmart palpatine. He knew Qui gon would of kept him in check form doing some of the mistakes he did.

Where did that come from

No, the problem is that the Jedis was corrupted beyond repair. That was why Dooku left. Remember, Qui Gon was trained by Dooku and the librarian said Dooku was the smartest. Qui GOn understood the force better than anyone. He believe in a balance in the force. rest of the Jedis lost track of it.

Definitely, Palpatine's plans were already in motion by the time of episode one. Qui Gon would have been a major road block to his end game and would have him removed by any means necessary.

I always loved that Qui-Gon Jinn came to refer to the force as 'the Living Force'. Not something that is distant, gone, or dead that has left its authority to men(or a jedi council) But something, with a will, that lives- Qui-Gon sees himself as someone who should concern himself with what it wants, not with what he wants. A true Aslan/servant indeed. (Just occurred to me, same actor 😄)

Then Naboo loses the Space Battle. Maybe Maul can use Anakin against the Jedis and win the battle. Or Anakin manages to keep his ship in the hangar and tries to help Obi wan and Qui Gon by firing at Darth Maul. He cuts him in half with a plasma bolt but the battle up there is still Lost.

Pretty sure if both Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan were killed on Naboo, then EVERYBODY ELSE would've been by Maul too. Padmé's security guards would've stood no chance against him, so she, Captain Panaka and everybody else there would've died. Anakin would've gotten kidnapped as soon as he landed back on that hangar, if Maul didn't just kill him right there and then due to being unaware of Palpatine's plans for the boy yet. The Gungan Army... would've been dealt with later on, since Nut Gunray wouldn't be a hostage anymore to "negotiate a new treaty", so the Trade Federation could've sent reinforcements to wipe out the Gungans. So yeah, Maul coming out victorious out of that fight would've changed *everything.* Obi-Wan literally saved the whole census by defeating him!

@@MrDibara So Obi-Wan prevented a timeline in which Jar-Jar died and there was no awkward Padma-Anakin romance? Maybe he was the bad guy the whole time.

Probably not.

Sadly, I think even Yoda was too influenced by the Order's dogma to make a difference. True, he would've been a better mentor than Obi-Wan, but not by that much I believe. Anakin's case was trully special and Qui-Gon really was the only one at the time who could've guided him. _(maybe not even Plo Koon could've)_