r/MaliciousComplaince Cheat on Me? I'll Make You Pay Me $120,000! 

I can understand the confusion since the dad used his son's aging out as an excuse to stop all payment

alimony is such a dumb concept

@@luvely1062 It normally wouldn't, but when they split the ex husband wanted it set up that way rather than giving her half of everything and she agreed

@@luvely1062 it isnt a rule and it doesnt last long like that, but they made a agreement cause he didnt want to pay her half of his retirement like he supposed too, so instead he had to pay for alimony for a long time, but the ammount was the same, but not all in once

@@larag3747 oh I see. My step sissters mom was getting paid alimony till kid was 18, along with child support. It was weird he had to 'keep up her life style'

Meanwhile the op’s boss had a stick up his butt

The smaller the company the more flexible the owners have to be. It's way to easy to fail when your a small company. 80% of all companies fail in the first 5 years. I know that there is an even higher failer rate if it's a restaurant.

@@Donkeyearsa yeah, but still to have a good sense of humor go's a long way

I think they needed the laugh due to the stress of their positions. Having executives like that I think OP’s manager was a bit embarrassed.

Glad to see them get the joke and not go all nuclear. The type of people that aren't insecure of their position, and have nothing to prove. Those types of bosses are the ones that people actually might respect

I loved over the garden wall and thought it was a fever dream, cause no one else had it.

He kinda misses key details one story a posting.

Oh that makes sense

He had payed all of the child support. Just not the alimony.

I guess he does it to get more comment engagement, because there's no way he could ignore so much stuff. Kinda shitty.

It's also only on the spousal support side she said he never fell behind on child support.

She was just following orders. She at least did it with consent.

Me and my ex have a daughter, and even though we don't really get along that well we both love her and want the best thing for her. It's kind of funny, because I grew up in a "proper home" and was abused. Meanwhile, she's growing up in a "fractured home", yet her childhood is already going to be way better than mine ^^

@Sergio Bicerra yup, exactly!

Nice vertue signal, call me back if the story ever pans out.

that can definitely backfire. my parents had the same agreement, but only my mom followed through. she never said anything bad about my dad, but he had no problem going off on how she cheated, how her dumb business financially ruined us, she was never around for us, etc so i spent a very long time with a warped perception of my mom, until she finally cracked and told the truth about his abuse.

@@Right-Is-Right You forgot to leave your number

I've seen that as standard things in many places...where major surgery and similar tend to have extended paid sick days. Less dystopian and more than most companies also have limits on offered sick days with how much they can afford to be paying someone who isn't there

huh? what do you mean by that?

@@majdavlk649 Life changing/threatening events, such as a major surgery are not about the surgery itself in most people's minds. The only you can think of is the insane price as well as your job firing you or cutting your pay. Shouldn't every employee have extra sick days for being hospitalized? Why is OP's boss giving OP extra sick days special? Every employee deserves that from their boss. That is dystopian.

@@OrcaPlushie Wait. Your job can fire you for that? Do you not have workers rights where you live?

@@idiotically-everything haha. Hahaha. AHHHHHHH-

But where was the MC?

@@jpro1733 Deleting all that info that the new boss refused to acknowledge.

I don’t get the statement can you explain it to me??

@@titismith4955 For guys like the EX, they have at least two women; their 'main' girl (girlfriend/wife) and their mistress/woman they're cheating with. With OP gone and him marrying his mistress, it basically means he has room for a new mistress

The main issue was getting married in the first place. It isn't worth the risk for men in this day and age. Women like the OP ruined it for everyone.

@@PlaguedByEarth how did women like op ruin it when he cheated . If he didn't cheat he would have to pay anything. Men like her ex ruin marriages by cheating and causing payments

​​@@PlaguedByEarthHey buddy, you blow in from Stupid Town?

So it's wrong for him to mooch off his mother, but it's okay for the woman to mooch off her ex? And somehow the woman isn't a loser? Double standards much?

@@KingIsulgard Nope, no double standards at all! A grown man, assuming they are not suffering some medical catastrophe, has no expectation of support in a financial sense from their parent. (A grown woman either for that matter, applies to both equally, but we're speaking of a man here. Or at least we are speaking of a man supposedly, because he seems more like a boy than a man.) A woman who is getting alimony is NOT simply mooching off their ex-husband. When a couple is married, and combines finances, the person who made more typically pays alimony because it's about allowing the person who made significantly less to continue to have a decent standard of living. This applies to men AND women! It just takes actually looking into it to know that because the fact is that it usually is the man who pays alimony/spousal support rather than the woman. This is because it is typically the woman who sacrifices her earning potential and years of income to raise the children and care for the home. Obviously not always but generally that's the case. So it's only fair that if she sacrifices income in that time that they are married, and also sacrifices career advancement thus will make less upon her return to full-time work, the man helps support her since it was a sacrifice made for BOTH of them and BOTH of their family. As to child support... I will not even attempt to explain why that is not mooching. Supporting one's children, man or woman, it not only expected, it's decent, and anyone arguing otherwise is not worth my time.

@@michellebaker6302 He did pay the child support, just not the alimony. I'm not saying child support is mooching. But alimony definitely is. When a couple splits, both will go down in standard of living. Why would the one earning less somehow be more entitled to keep the standard up anyway?

Ah the Buddenbrooks generational theory.

Yeah I was thinking that, if thats all it take to make a good boss

Ikr? It's so weird... there's no such thing as negative sick time here. If you're sick, you're sick and HAVE TO stay home.

That's so strange, I just baffled. Feels like someone saying "My boss was amazing, he only used his whip on us when we did actual mistakes, and never when we were just slightly slow during work". Like, yeah it's better than the opposite, I guess. But how low are your standards if you think this is good ?

My reading is this: He kept paying sick leave instead of going unpaid leave.

@@catprog Yeah, but what we tried to say is that no matter what when we are sick we get paid sick leave, we NEVER have to pay ourselves - also there is no maximum amount of days, whenever you're sick -> paid sick leave, if it's just 2 days a year or 100 doesn't matter. There is only a limitation on consecutive days that the doc decides on what's your illness but that's it.

Lmao it’s 11pm for me 💀

@@TeeHee46 Same. Fellow Aussie?

I hope your weekend goes well!!

Kedu ngozi

sending positive vibes for a good day at work your way

For sure.

Better not to screw with it, since he should have gotten the amount he was paying reduced a long time ago. Sometimes it's just a better idea to take the W and not ask for more.

But if I'm not mistaken, it was fairly common (probably less now) to adopt your successor. So even though the businesses would technically still be family owned, owners did have the option to pick their successor from a larger pool. Also, marrying your daughter to the man you want to take over.

​@@SiriastimefliesThere's one Kyoto fabric dealer that has like a 400 year family tradition who work off of the motto that "You can't pick a son but you can pick a son-in-law" Traditionally if their eldest son proved to be not very clever or had a poor character they'd get him a well-paying job in art or theater and focus on getting one of their female relatives an intelligent husband who they could make the next heir.

I wouldn't say they *deserve* to be cheated on, but they should definitely see it coming.

I don’t believe that, and I doubt you do either. I had tons of friends who cheated on each other in high school and college and now they’re all in dedicated relationship. It’s called growing up and solidifying your conscience and capacity for empathy. Of COURSE people can change.

@@shoeonhead I agree. I personally had cheated on my relationship before, but the lesson become my growth and now I’m in a perfectly healthy relationship. People can change, and the world is not always in black and white.

Fr lmaooo. If they cheat for you, they’ll cheat ON you as well.

I made the mistake at one point in my life. It taught me a very valuable and important lesson I'll never forget. Been with the same person who gave me a 2nd chance since for almost a decade now. Once a cheater NOT always a cheater.

It only works when the next person in charge has the same attitude to the job and to the employees as the previous one did.

I have seen owners start as the son at the bottom rung of management ladder, it is a fallacy that people need to work a job to know the job and even then there is no point knowing how every machine works if you have no people skills and have no built relationships with the employees.

People who think they must be treated like God on Earth

My mom’s ex husband was paying for child support for several years after their youngest turned eighteen as he was behind.

@Charlene Black - on the contrary, I would say it is in the best interest of the children, whom the child support is supposed to be supporting, if you do get a court order and keep everything above the board and transparent. This way the custodial parent can't make false claims about missed child support, and the non custodial parent has paperwork tracking when they do get into arrears. In addition, the custodial parent can also register for additional support services through the state to help the children, like food stamps, medical insurance, child care, etc... It really is in everyone's best interest to have that court order and go through the state, to protect the interests of the children.

I'm 24 and my bio dad is still paying my mom. He didn't pay anything for the first 13 years of my life. He wanted to get a very nice job as a truck driver that would take him into Canada for loads, but they wouldn't hire him because he owed my mom child support.

The age does matter. You don't pay child support when the children are over 21.

@@extravagant5985 if they're behind they can still be made to pay what they are behind. As I said above my bio dad still owes my mom and I'm almost 25

She did it for her kids. Don't think she didn't hate it, but she put her kids before her pride.

@@mariposa9506 Yeah, I get what you're saying. Its good to be civil and not speak badly about ur ex. And its good that OP tolerates her ex and his new woman enough to have holidays with them for the kids sake. But, the extra length she goes to is bizarre. Tryna create a friendship with them? Staying at their house to recover? Helping with their wedding? It just feels like too much for the way their marriage ended. A 12 year marriage might I add.

Yes you are too young to understand and no it’s not typical

Child support is based off the payers income at the time it is ordered. It can be changed for the same reason

@@lcharris387 unless they work under the table, hide their income, and change jobs every time they're found out.

It’s $120k that was supposed to be included over the course of whatever time frame. Dude knew what he was doing as soon as he started he just didn’t think she would fight back

It's not the same at all, it's only about the money nowadays. Walt's vision is GONE. I also believe the family is no longer really involved?

@@powerpuff_avenger Unfortunately, you are right that it doesn’t apply to today, but the Disney family ran it until the late 2000s, when Roy’s son passed. I could be wrong about that though.

I guess she thought it was 3 50s and 3 20s. Weird.

He paid child support at full it was alimony he was cutting back on.

@@destinedtogame Ah.

In the US the figure is closer to $300k, especially if you help with college.

Even if it wasn't the case it was the alimony he cut back on, let's just do the math here. 250k, x2 for 2 kids, but then divided by 2 because one parent is only responsible for half that money. Still 250k. But that's for 18 years. Round up to 13.9k/year. So for 14 years that works out to 194.6k. That number right there is exactly what he should owe in child support over 14 years, assuming that 250k estimate is accurate. He paid full for 4 years and half for 10. 120k was only the half he still owed for those 10 years. 120k/10 years is 12k/year. Should have been 24k/year he was paying, since that was only half. Multiply that by 14 years, homeboy owed in total $336k over the 14 years he was paying child support. Reference back to the earlier math. He should have paid $194,600 as a fair amount. With the info we have, he actually was made to pay $336,000. Well above his fair half. But that $336k was actually just the alimony. The child support was probably significantly less, but had to be paid on top of that amount. To put it in perspective a little, just the alimony was $2000/month. That's literally all the money I make, and I pay all my own bills and rent a 3 bedroom house in a nice neighborhood with one roommate, and order takeout all. The. Time. And I have money to travel twice a year. You can live off 2k/month. Comfortably, if you're one person. With 2 kids it's definitely a shoestring budget, but it's doable. But also he did pay child support on top of that. She got a really good deal.

@@Charliewestmore321 you’ve made several assumptions when setting up your calculations and the first one is unlikely to be correct. I’m not sure where you get your information regarding how child support is calculated but child support is rarely calculated at 50% and in the vast majority of parenting plans approved by the court the primary custodial parent rarely has to contribute 50%, its closer to somewhere between 35-45% and the amount has NOTHING to do with the average costs to raise a child. It is solely based on income calculated against the amount of time they have the kids. Your math just doesn’t make much sense and because you have no idea what his annual income was originally, no way of knowing the amount he was responsible to contribute.

At a local McDonald’s, they once gave me back more change than I’d given them in payment. My protests fell on deaf ears, so… I got paid to eat their food! 😂

people confuse alimony and child support all the time, which is really dumb. One is vital to the survival of society, the other is a relic of ages past that needs to be abolished ASAP

@@Nerobyrne true but the op specified they where different like several times. I guess rslash was to busy looking for bad husband stories to actually pay attention