OP's "elaborate" revenge in story #2 is definitely better than just stealing the meat. The neighbor would have suspected, making OP open to a cycle of revenge. Plus you never know about cameras etc. Also, as the story progressed I was worried that the meat would end up being wasted. So glad it went to good use!
Beat me to it. OP already said the guy has prepper tendencies, OP is lucky there wasn't an indoor camera in the garage that caught him with the cup. Absolutely the homeowner would've suspected him of stealing. Like, seriously r/slash, what are you thinking?
You're missing one big point of the meat revenge- causing a significant inconvenience. It wasn't just about getting something valuable in exchange for the car damage. The neighbor's recklessness caused OP a bunch of headaches trying to figure out how to make the neighbor liable for the damage. OP returned the favor by giving the neighbor the giant headache of finding people to take his supposedly spoiled meat, while also scoring something valuable for free for his trouble. Sounds like Pro Revenge to me!
Yeah, R/Slash is making it sound like it was a twenty step plan but all OP really did was put a cup in the sun, put it back on the freezer, then call and text a few dozen times probably while doing other chores and then got free meat for it.
Not the biggest fan about the second story. Even though the guy gave away some of the meat. A lot of it was wasted. To purposely waste food like that especially meat is a little disgusting to me. Being that most of the meat from him hurting. He didn’t get him financially. Just lost of life with no purpose.
Story 2: I disagree, OP is exceptionally good at being evil. OP did nothing that even raises suspicion of actually being evil. actually stealing the meat would only make the the neighbor suspicious of OP and not trust them anymore. instead OP made the neighbor himself give them the meat. Also: I guess it was never actually the plan to get the meat, only to make the neighbor think that the meat went bad.
We are talking about guy that prepares for apocalypse, I'm willing to bet that he has a decent arsenal at his home and we already know that he is half crazy. Making him throw out all the meat is genius. And don't forget that we are species where if you do something for somebody else, you like that person more subconsciously, so now the neighbor likes OP more. Just stealing a bunch of stakes would make him hate OP.
I kinda thought he was just gonna leave the power out and let meat do what it does in heat. But I like this solution too, getting that much free meat is a good revenge.
Yeah. OP didn't have a route to take the nuclear revenge, which means he would have to be neighbors with this guy unless OP is the one to move somewhere else. And the doomsday neighbor had already damaged OP's car without remorse, so he might do a lot more if pissed off. It was the best revenge possible while staying on good terms with the neighbor. Of course there's satisfaction in having the other person know you got the best of them in the end, but it's not always necessary.
Story 2: That advice is dangerous because there is always a chance that when you break the law you will be caught, like with stealing the meat most people wouldn't even know he had it or have access putting OP under scrutiny for theft. The way OP did it took more effort but had no risk and had the added benefit of the neighbor giving away perfectly good food willingly without knowing it which to me at least is the cherry on top.
I completely agree with this. The advice given by RSlash here is not the type of advice anyone should follow. Breaking the law, in any sense, is not the way to get revenge.
@@Ruizon1Exactly. If the guy came back, saw the lack of meat and called the cops, Oh OP had keys to my place. The The Cops are knocking at OP's with a freezer of clearly stolen meat.
and the most devious part? it was all done while staying in Chester's good graces. hell, Chester probably trusts OP even more now, opening the door to even more elaborate shenanigans like this down the line
I disagree with rSlash on the second story. What OP did was simple, easy, and very devious. He tricked his neighbor to give hundreds if not thousands of dollars worth of meat away to the neighborhood for damaging his vehicle and not owning up to it. If OP stole the meat instead, there might have been a chance of being caught.
Exactly. OP gets no consequences from his plan, and the neighbor loses money from all that meat he throws out or gives away. Honestly just petty revenge, but so satisfying to him I'm sure
Dude, never underestimate the potential of possibly being seen breaking laws. You're forgetting it's a lot riskier to do that. That specific revenge would NOT be worth jail.
And there is the psychological side, op's neighbor not only still trust op but he also blames himself for losing 300$ worth of meat No hard feelings, no future retaliation
Chester sounds like the kind of guy you don’t want to needlessly antagonize, so outright stealing likely isn’t worth the risk/making an enemy. Making him think it’s all worthless is muuuuuch safer, and more satisfying since then ALL of it has to go.
Some people have already probably called him a redneck rednecks are actually very good people hillbillies on the other hand there are a lot more aggressive they don't like talking to people their introvert rednecks practically and considering I'm an introvert I don't blame them
Story 2: OP isn't too nice. Hes smart. If he just stole, Chester would know. Meaning if Chester ever screwed OP again. He wouldn't be able to get revenge ever again.
Second story, it's one thing to just straight up steal *some* of the meat for yourself, but it's another to make Chester give up *all* of the meat and think he's not able to use any. It cost Chester more and he can't pin the blame on anyone besides bad luck. Besides, OP still got a ton of meat out of it.
Story 3: Wow, this boss is a real A-hole. He abuses his power, cheats on his wife with multiple people, tried wreck a relationship between two workers, and then threw a hissy fit by firing one of the two after being rejected. Well, glad he's been divorced and taken to the cleaners, but he needs to go…completely
Regarding story 2, if the guy really was a prepper the way OP suggests, then he probably has a list of all the contents of those freezers, cause they need to rotate them to keep the contents viable. If OP had taken anything the way you're suggesting, Rslash, then the prepper dude would know *immediately* who did it when he goes to do his own check and that would be a problem on it's own. The way OP handled that situation was beyond smart and left zero culpability on themselves.
The freezer story: Dabney, I get what you're saying about us "too nice people", but OP's revenge was perfect because Chester will never hold a grudge. Peace in the neighborhood. 😊
story 2: that's bad advice. OP had access to the garage. it only takes one person to be looking out a window or have a ring doorbell or something for you to get done for theft. hell, He would have known it was OP and all it takes is one neighbour that dislikes OP to lie to the cops about seeing him leaving with some bags.
Right, and even if nobody saw him, how is he supposed to hide months worth of meat in his house unnoticed ? surely the guy would have report the burglary to the cops and they would have poke around. His way may have been convoluted but it was the better way.
The better Revenge would have been to turn off the breakers to the freezers for a couple of days and just replace the penny and the Frozen cup of water.
@@undrhil that's all well and good until he does not notice the meat is bad, cooks it and serves it to some innocent relative who ends up really sick or dies. chances are not all of the meat will go bad, large chest freezers, as long as they are not opened can stay cold enough for days without power. when it does start to defrost, it will be worse for some of the meat than others. it would be like Russian roulette for his family members.
Story 2: He wasnt trying to get revenge at first and when he saw the freezers he probably only thought that he'd end up throwing out all the meat. Instead he ended up getting 5 months worth of meat unintentionally.
Story 2: rSlash is dismissing the absolute pleasure of concocting a clever plan, being smarter than the one you want revenge from, and leaving that person completely in the dark as to what actually happened. And if OP had simply stolen the meat, there would be no interesting story for rSlash to read either.
The neighbor gave him permission to go in the house. That's why he didn't take any meat while he was away. He probably knew exactly how much meat were in his freezers.
There is no excuse for someone who would lay their hands upon their other half. Domestic abuse is awful, regardless of who does it. God, the first story was so satisfying!
I dunno, untraceable revenge is always the best kind of revenge. Especially when it's against your neighbor... Especially if that neighbor is a doomsday prepper
Story 2: R/Slash has no imagination. Pee on the bed and steal meat? Where's the inconvenience? Where's the drama? Where's the revenge? No, gotta make sure the other person is equally inconvenienced.
OP with the neighbour with the meat didn’t set out to get meat. He set out to make the neighbour get rid of his stockpile of meat. Getting to eat it was just a bonus.
Story 1: You sometimes wonder why that does happen, why domestic violence happens so much, why two people would fall in love and then one just…abuses. I just wish all the best to the ex-wife because she needs a better husband
I don't think I'll ever be able to understand how an abusers mind works and the worst part is they don't (usually) change and just jump from one victim to the next...
Three possibilities. One, the guy was a bully from the get-go and found himself a damaged woman who enables his behavior. Two, the woman is a real piece of work and repeatedly antagonizes him until he inevitably snapped and punched her to shut her up. (I had an ex like that. I never hit her, but the moment I realized how crazy she was was when she was ugly-crying begging me to finally just hit her to show her I cared, because that's "what real men do.") Or the third possibility, they're both crazy but at least did the rest of the world a favor by taking each other off the market.
I will say: there is a more malicious outcome in ops tactics in the second story. The guy lost so much meat that he could feel the guilt of loosing that meat. It’s even worse than having the feeling of someone stealing things. Plus: no suspicion on op. If op were to steal, the neighbor could blame op and find the evidence. Not a good scenario tbh.
The OP in the 2nd story would literally be in jail (or pay a few hundred/thousand fine) if he did anything RSlash said. He says OP is a nice person not wanting to break any laws but then immediately says OP should break the law with 90s movie pranks. If anyone is to nice it's you Mr.Bailey, because it takes a real villain to think of something that evil and get away with it too other than leaving DNA evidence behind and the fact that OP was the only one the guy asked to check his house if they had bad weather so he doesn't need a witness.
Stealing someone's meat is a scrub move. Making give it away voluntarily is so much more delicious. Figuratively and literally, if you're a neighbourhood pet.
I was told by my lawyer grandpa, they are called wife beaters because that’s all they’ll have left after they go to court. Because they would literally loose the shirt off their backs if people found out they beat their wife.
Story 2: Op isn't kind, they're just non-confrontational lol. Going through all that effort just to not have to start beef with their neighbour. Imagine if he actually didn't hit their car lmao
I agree about the intricacy of the freezer revenge being unnecessary. BUT I love this revenge, because it really leaves OP with clean hands. He was suuuuuuuch a good guy who let Chester know about the power outage, what a charmer! What a great neighbor! No neighbor drama, free meat, delicious revenge.
I agree with most of the comments on story 2, break and bend as few laws as possible in revenge. You never know who is watching or who has cameras for one, and if you are ever caught, all they can do is be mad at you.
Story 2 reminds me of something... When I was a kid, we had a horrible neighbor. He was angry with my parents because they bought the property and he wasn't able to. He owned rental property next to ours. We had a garage with a separate breaker, and we had a long storage freezer out there. We went on vacation for 2 weeks, came back to a freezer full of spoiled meat. Guy went out and flipped the breaker while we were gone. He was buddies with the cops in town, good ole boys type small town, and we had no evidence other than how difficult it would be to get to the breaker. So in modern money ammount, probably 1500 worth of meat and another 700 for the freezer. Nothing beats coming home from a trip to Disneyland like someone vandalizing your things and having no recourse.
In regards to story 2: when people have freezers full of meat, it’s usually from slaughtering their own cows, or from hunting expeditions. Maintaining a cow up until slaughter is thousands of dollars. Hunting licenses and equipment for a single season can be in the thousands as well. Getting your meat processed is $700-$1200 depending on the size of the animal, and the cuts you’re looking for. One animal tends to fill half of one of the larger meat freezers. OP definitely got his revenge EASILY by removing a cup, putting it back, and making some phone calls. It wasn’t about getting free meat, it was about costing this man thousands of dollars.
I really like Meat OP For me the best revenge is dismantling other's without even be the suspect Very sneaky, and on top of that he didn't invite any hostility nor even suspicion with his elaborate lie
Until the end, I was sure OP in story 2 would have kept the penny cup in his fridge while actually cutting off the power from Chester's house, then turn it on again, wait for the freezers to get down to the right temperature and put the cup back, to eventually make Chester eat potentially hazardous meat. But to be honest, his revenge is way better
14:55 Oh R/Slash it wasn’t about stealing the meat, it was the psychological torture of having the neighbor give away perfectly good meat from his own hands.
So, about story two. There are a couple things you need to know. 1. If OP would have done any of what you suggested, shit would have hit the fan for him. Losing "Chesters" trust would have been the tip of the iceberg, and the potential legal ramifications could have cost OP WAY more than it was worth. Hell, the whole neighborhood could have had the potential to turn on him if Chester decided OP was the one to break and enter/vandalize/rob his home, EVEN IF he didn't have any solid proof. 2. What OP did was absolute genius. Not only was it free from legal ramifications (as all he really did was mess with a cup of ice and tell a white lie), but he masterfully convinced Chester of the meat being (falsely) spoiled due to acting like a concerned neighbor over the (very, VERY real) storm that could have affected his home, forcing the neighbor to waste not only hundreds, perhaps thousands, of dollars of food, but also go though the excessive headache of trying to get rid of it all. This is what you call being Lawful Evil. You payback revenge and commit harm for your selfish benefit (petty or major), all within the confines of laws and social rules. He masterfully got vengeance against Chester, all while said neighbor was never the wiser for it, and as far as he's concerned, they're still friendly with each other. And, to tell you the truth? It's always so much more amazing to watch such elaborate plans go off without a hitch, especially when it leaves the target without a clue that it was even fabricated against them in the first place.
Story 1 the poor "Pro Bono Lawyer" ... why did he have to suffer under this? Because at that point OP is going from justified action to being an asshole to innocent people!
My dad, who was in marketing at the time, and I passed a high-end clothes store in the mall. In the window was a mannequin wearing one of those shirts mentioned at the end of story 1. My dad says “You know what those shirts are called? The store should just lean into it and pose the mannequin like it’s about to backhand slap someone.” I don’t think I’ve seen one of those shirts displayed anywhere since that day.
Your comment about “Good people trying to be evil” just reminds me of the one comic where Batman says “The difference between Clark I is simple. Deep down, Clark is a good man. I’m not a ‘good man’…”
What I thought Op was going to do is cut the power at Chester’s house for a while, keep the water cup in his freezer and then let Chester eat rotten meat, but getting free meat for himself and his dogs is a much better revenge
Story 2: It's about sending a message, Dabney. Chester did a shitty thing and covered it up to make OP pay for it. OP did a thing and had his cover up being Chester's lack of knowledge, and Chester paid OP back thinking he did his best to help. "Damage my car and make me pay for it? I'll gaslight you."
Hold on, the meat story is clever & done the best way, he's keeping the peace with his neighbor & getting revenge on him without the guy realizing it so he's cluelessly trusting OP without realizing the guy screwed him & I love that. If it was stolen, the trust would be gone & he'd be sour towards OP, instead we've got him ticked at his own self because he believes the meat went bad & because he wasn't reachable during the time, the blame falls onto him, way better form of revenge in my opinion. Props to the elaborate plan.
It's hilarious that even after the pandemic people still make fun of preppers. Imagine chuckling to yourself about your neighbor's canned peach collection while you're starving to death.
Story 2 scared me for a min! I thought OP was going to let the meat thaw out and refreeze the penny to the top of the ice causing chester and is family to potentially get very sick. I was getting so mad but then goes on to explain his little plan and I started to relax. By the end of it I had a sile on my face.
OPs payback in the freezer story is way better than stealing it or any other plan. There's no cops, no risk of retaliation, and in the end he even got to keep storing his ill-gotten gains at his neighbours place for months after.
Well rslash I just gave birth yesterday and seems like I had your videos on every morning that my newborn stopped fussing at the sound of your voice. From a tired mama thank you for your voice my baby sure was born a fan
I have to disagree w/ your take on #2, what OP did was a great revenge. Stealing the meat or vandalizing the guy's home would make him wary, and potentially escalate the situation (and since he's dealing w/ a prepper that could end very badly). And his goal wasn't to get the meat, just to punish the neighbor, the neighbor decided to give him the meat so it was a bonus, not the goal.
Per Dab's point about "why and elaborate revenge instead of just stealing meat" -- The cops might not do anything due to no witnesses, but the dude would know. This way, OP gets revenge and retains plausible deniability even with the victim.
I agree with the other commenters. Leading Chester to believe the meat had gone off was genius. The best (ie: most effective) villains are the ones you THINK are good guys.
But here’s the thing RSlash about the second story, the way OP did this means that Chester still TRUSTS him. No fear of retaliation, AND he can reap the benefits of his revenge. And Chester is none the wiser. Sometimes the genius isn’t in process, it’s about the aftermath’s aftermath 😜
Completely disagree on the meat story. His revenge was so much better and meaner than rslash gives it credit for. If he made it obvious that he did something the fued would escalate. But OP got him to give him the meat and he thinks OP is doing him a favor by taking it. And the feud is over. OP wins.
The first story left me with some questions. Why did this rich land owner have a pro Bono attorney? Why was the pro Bono attorney so deeply emotionally invested in a guy who beat his wife? Let alone one who isn't even making him any money? Now, I'm all for abusive people tasting the wrath of the law, but I feel there's some context missing... Not sure if I believe it's a real story about real people.
"Why would someone do bad things?" -> that's the innocent child mentality. Most kids are not bad. Most criminals are not born as horrible people. They learn this stuff.
Story 2: Yeah he could have just stolen some meat and gotten a few hundred dollars of meat. But doing what he did he got who knows how much meat (a quarter of a cow can cost roughly around $2000). Plus three chests of meat could be somewhere between $10,000 and $25,000 based of a very very rough google search.
story 2 cometary: i think he wants to maintain friendly relations, plus if he was caught with the meat in his freezer he would be reported for theft with proof. the way he did it was perfectly executed cuz there is no way to prove his wrong doings if the neighbor ever got wind of his plot
The freezer story: You couldn't just take it. He would then try to get you back, and so on and so on. Plus, where are you going to keep 3 freezers full of meat. This way, he gives you all the best and stores it for you, plus has to get rid of the rest by himself. Feeling like it was his fault and how wasteful and costly it was. That's just priceless!!
First story is not a real story. Sounds like an ad for that lawyer. Basically the entire story is "this guy is bad, but we won't talk how bad exactly. I won in court against him, but we won't talk how exactly. And I mess with him after for a bit, there we will talk". See? There are no core elements of good story! No substance! It is an ad.
The meat story: if OP just took the meat, Chester could have legitimately claimed OP took it since OP had access to it, unless OP took the trouble to stage a break-and-enter (and risk screwing that up.) Instead, OP only went to places he could legitimately go to, called Chester as told to, and got the meat only because Chester was an idiot. Any fingerprints, etc., would be expected based on what Chester asked.
Disagree about the freezer revenge. It was a perfect execution and not terribly Byzantine, it required OP to make perhaps 4 moves. The fact the neighbor gave him the perfectly good steaks was not anticipated but an additional benefit - to the entire neighborhood! I say this one is - the mot juste and beau geste.
The weird part about the lying neighbour is, the neighbour doesn't sound like that bad of a guy, he didn't get angry at OP for not saving his food, he accepted the storm caused the issue, and then offered some of the meat to him for the dogs, instead of just binning it, AND let him store some of the meat he thought was bad in the freezer as well, taking space and electricity, so why on earth would he lie about the dint?
There's nothing wrong with the meat revenge. Stealing a bit of meat wouldn't have hurt the guy as him having to throw out/give away ALL the meat. And what was OP gonna do? Hide the meat in his freezer and when the guy comes with the cops to search his house, claim that that was his meat and not the guy's? He got free meat for months dude. The guy had to spend so much time carting meat around the neighborhood begging people to take it for their cats and dogs and would have STILL had to throw a lot of it away anyway. A revenge plot isn't only delicious when there's little effort involved, it's the results that matter. In fact I would have put in even more effort (after all the meat was gone) by making sure I told him I ate all the steak and then watch him try to figure out why I never got sick. Hell I would have made videos of myself eating steak all the time and sent it to him just to be a dick about it. It would hurt more because of the unnecessary effort.
OP who made Chester get rid of the meat from his freezer played it smart once he found the penny and fuse box when checking up on Chester's house. OP got a load of free meat which would had cut his food shopping and Chester knew nothing that OP had any involvement to his "spoilt meat".
Gonna have to disagree with the revenge stance, it wasn't overly elaborate. It was perfect, he did everything he wanted whilst keeping the peace. Genius move
Story 1: it seems a bit too convenient that OP throws a "he’s a wife beater" at the beginning… almost as if he wanted people to be on his side before displaying how ruthless he was. Maybe it’s true… but OP doesn’t seem too concerned anyways
Story 2: i disagree, OP is an evil mastermind, you see, if OP did what you just said rSlash, OP break the trust, and that's it, OP will never have another chance at messing with the neighbor, OP is just playing the long game by keeping the trust he have with the neighbor.
The freezer story is a good example as to why Dabney reads prorevenge stories and doesnt write them. What he suggested would be pettyrevenge at best or a good way to get jailed at worse.
Rslash misses the point. The revenge in the 2nd story isn’t about taking value from the neighbor. It’s about making that neighbor choose to waste his own money by throwing out perfectly good meat, because he didn’t bother to check his own freezers to see that there was no thawing and leaking. The bonus was the neighbor giving the meat away. But simply stealing the meat would have been more petty than having the neighbor be tricked into giving away the meat himself. Besides, breaking and entering is a criminal charge and the police investigation could be more robust than the purely civil manner of a struck car on the public street.
There might be something that you don't take into account when these good people take revenge on someone and keeping their good nature intact. They gain the a-holes trust. These good people play the long con so they can keep screwing the a-holes over and over and over without them suspecting a thing.
As a kid one of the "evil" things i would do was sneakily take a sip of my parents soda when they were gone since i wasn't allowed o drink any and steal an extra brownie from the snack cupboard another time. I thought i was so cleaveras a kid by doing that lol
Nah, other people are right, OP's plan with the meat was perfect. Clears of any suspicion since he didn't actually steal anything. He used the guy's own system against him. It also put the guy through more trouble since he now has to deal with all his "spoiled" meat. If he'd stolen it, he'd have been the #1 suspect, and even if the cops couldn't nail him for it, it would have likely started a feud between him and the neighbor that could have come back on him, including possibly another busted up car. HIs plan was just elaborate enough imo. Meanwhile you're literally encouraging a crime, lmao.
See,the thing about ‘ just being evil’ in revenge is that it’s NOT to your benefit when you live across the street from the target. Even if they did something that completely deserves the slap back,you could end up kicking off a cycle of constant ‘tit for tat’ acts of retaliation,and peace stealing animosity +tension. Who wants to live under constant threat of vengeance from someone you already know is a butthole?
The claim that fallout range dooms a person is false. You're doomed if you are outside and get hit with actual fallout. The reason to have a shelter with supplies is to stay inside and out of the falling radioactive dust until that dust settles. People claiming that being within fallout range have a few minutes to get into their shelter and then have to wait about a week for the dust to settle before bugging out. As long as you're not within the actual blast range.
Freezer prank/revenge... Reminds me of an episode from MASH. Tricked an army police officer to eat stolen beef that they got from a General. When the Officer realized he ate some of the stolen meat, he report back to General that there wasn't no beef found at the 4077.
