r/RecruitingHell - Promoted to... Me? 

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At least you're honest!

i guess honesty resulted in a bonus point?

"What would you say is your biggest weakness?" "Honesty." "I don't see how that's a weakness..." "Well, I don't care what you think."

For my current job I said I'm motivated by pay check. Got the job and two years later promoted to team leader. Now that I do interviews myself, I try test people to be Honest insteqd of being monotonous robots reciting the same lines every one else says. No real reason other than wanting to see their reactions and evaluate personlity. A greedy guy will work for The money, highly educated just wants their feet on and aply to every other position afterwards.

Ironically there are some jobs where it is better to have people with no job experience than people who are "experts". This mostly applies to fields with particular styles of doing the job, such as writing based jobs. For instance, a legal document writer would not be able to perform as a script writer or a grant writer even though they would have "experience" with writing. If the job isn't like that, however, then yeah can't argue with what you said.

Personally, I try not to hire people who are overqualified because they tend to leave quickly when they find something more fitting. And I don't blame them at all but the training process is time-consuming, costs the company and takes my personal effort. I don't want to get attached to you if you're about to leave me for something better than where I'm stuck. Heh.

I had a few interviewers accidentally say I was "over qualified" in the interview

@@SpamCobb I judge companies who do that. Sure I can be overqualified for a position but if the workplace is actually a healthy one I'll actually able to spend time with my kid, I'll actually stay. Maybe it might be more beneficial to ask people why they want to go into a position that they're "overqualified" for since not everyone wants to climb the corporate ladder

@@randomtinypotatocried Yeah, I respect that opinion but as a low level manager in retail, my time matters, too. I only had to be dumped so many times before I stopped letting myself get hurt. I want a candidate with certifications to go and make more money somewhere else and be happier than I am stuck in retail. I would not be doing either of us a favor by ignoring those facts. Once you find yourself in a low-level leadership position, you will understand more intuitively and it will be more personal for you.

Well... at least you lucked out on that job.

@@fulomtheavali Lucked out on wasting her time?

​@@ArcanineEspeonMore like lucked out on the type of manager they are If they're this frustrating when interviewing someone, imagine what they're like with other aspects

if she's in the US that's illegal....

@@Avrysatos Poland unfortunately 😑

@@JohnSmithMO Did you check if that is legal with anyone competent at law shit? Because even if you take the angle of word contract (to few thousand gold you do not need a written contract on a buy/sell thing so maybe there is something that you do not know but a lawyer could do something.).

@@JohnSmithMO should still be illegal

@@JohnSmithMO I'm pretty sure poland has better employment laws than the US. But I hope your friend is doing better now!

Then they whine that "nobody wants to work!" after getting black-listed by everybody.

I read somewhere that some companies do this thing where they lists jobs with not intention of filling them. They do it as a way to appease workers who say they are overworked due to understaffing. This way they can say they are doing something without having to actual doing something.

Hell I've had a couple that continued to email me a few times a week for years afterwords, with that exact content which is frankly insultingly condescending. Like seriously you had your chance to hire me back when I cared, but you blatantly denied me; unless you're willing to make me an offer now, then I won't flag your work email as a phishing site. Stopped getting their job advertisement emails within the week.

"Uhh... Excuuuse me, we want our employees to be independently wealthy thank you very much."

" qualifications employee must have a we'll paying job to be hired"

@@Landonc48 "but we will not pay you more than that job"

No, what if that happen again and you would prioretice your family? The poor company would be lost. (Sarcasm off)

@@ralphisxamida8533 you can always say it was your last/only very close relative (sarcasm stays on)

You assume companies have a heart

For added effect get a random certification relevant to your work field during the gap so it looks like you were able to keep improving yourself during the gap.

@@aaronmccullers384 Or volunteer work. I did that a few times since I notice when I did have a gap of a month I got less call backs

That is pretty normal in EMS in Germany sadly. You go in for an interview for a Paramedic apprenticeship and they suggest you should do a year of voluntary civil service with like 2,50€ an hour but full time hours and the same responsibilties as someone getting normal pay, to gain expierence in the field. It's so deeply entrenched now that you have basically 0 chances of getting in without that year of civil service or paying several thousand € for EMT school and a Lorry license yourself with at least 4 months (most often 6) of full time school and practicals with no pay (I had to do both the year of civil service and another 6 months and 5000€ for EMT school before I got in. If you dont do voluntary sth there is no way to become an EMT without paying yourself). For an apprenticeship that formally just requires GCSE equivalent and a doctors note to say you're healthy but not any prior knowledge whatsoever. Also 2,50€ an hour for a full time postion that is physically (lots of walking and carrying patients) and psycologically (lots of responsibilty and many shitty situations) extremely challenging is something else. And if you were wondering we do have an EMT and Paramedic shortage despite a ratio of between 20 at the lowest and 40-50 applicants per apprenticeship spot. And 5000€ is a massive price tag by German standards a bachelors will set you back 2300 in uni fees over 3 years.

@@Serenity_yt There's definitely that expectation of having been a volunteer firefighter prior to becoming a professional here in the US, but that can vary wildly across jurisdictions. There's also plenty of volunteer firefighters who have no desire to go pro, and many poor rural communities which likely couldn't support a full-time professional fire department (we're talking counties that have literally 1 full-time sheriff who temporarily deputizes gun owners if they need to form a posse)

@redjoker365 there are many many volunteers here as well and thats perfectly fine but what I see as more problematic is the expectation that you have to volunteer to go pro there's no direct route to go pro without volunteering or spending huge amounts of money. This sacrifice first before we deign to consider you even though we really really need you is wrong. And Firefighters and EMS is very much separate here with different routes all of 911(112) ambulanc services are professional here but only very big cities have professional fire departments

because companies just want to make money, pay an employee? what they're worth? Why when we can make more money and put them down! The mindset is awful, but its the world we live in

"...thanks to the money I saved, by stealing it!"

The new company are very likely to give her future raises and promotions. The old company would see themselves as losing money by paying the higher wage, and won't want to ever have to pay her any more than that

My dad, who is a hires people, told me they have a certain amount they can pay for each position. Sure he can pay someone the whole thing upfront but they would never get a raise. Which people don’t like, so he starts them lower so he can give them raises and they stay content

Me and a friend talking about the job opening where he works. Oh sure I'll come back for 80 thousand minium. He pauses for a second and says,'the general manager doesn't even make that much' My response basically was thats what im worth (and honestly, i might have still refused. i hate that place,

Posted range - always pays the minimum amount regardless of candidate experience.

Would be based if they had to take your offer in return. Like, they pull that crap and you say: "cool, I take the 100$/h" and then get 100/h for an entry position

Wow. That’s such fucking bullshit. I can’t fucking stand companies like that dude it’s bullshit. They’re always doing some sneaky crap

This is so weird to me. I live in the Netherlands and it’s very common for job postings to have the salary. I never realised they don’t do this everywhere.

@@ninaabbel938 merica is…special

It would be cringe

You say that, but my best friend's family has been forcing him to pay rent since before he turned 18 😢

Yeah, that's a dodged bullet sign when I get one, means they are too cheap to pay you what you are worth

@@Tasarran Sadly I get those a lot.

Or/and it means they think you are more likely to leave soon

At least she was open about it I guess..?

I'm disabled, I had wild interviws but one was "the best": I come in sit down, greet, the interviewer: "Thanks for your time. We don't hire you because of your diability. But it looks good that we invited you, please be so kind and sit here for at least 10 minutes." Ofcourse I left imidiatly.

@@ralphisxamida8533 oO you should record every interview. And then sue the crap out of those who do not even have enough decency in their heart to PRETEND they are seriously considering to employ you. Radical honesty is just "powerful people being assholes to those that cannot break their leg".

Ah feminism … the radical belief that _women are people._

Maybe it's because I'm stupid and have never hold a job but why don't all the people dissatisfied with jobs get together and make a new job surely there's something that still needs to be done for society

Sorry to hear, I hope it changes for you. My fiancé was jobless for over 2 years but recently got hired at a local place, sometimes luck just isn’t on your side

I have been searching since June and have gotten only one interview because it was my dad's boss's sons garage (literally wall to wall with my dad's job) and I still have gotten no jobs

This is why I'm going for Disability.

@@nobodyimportant6582 fucking same. But that’s tbh a long process to go through to but I’m like 13% through it

I'd been lucky enough to get the number of a manager for one such job off of their automated email, I waited a week since there was a holiday that might've thrown off the scheduling, but after I called them they just said 'ill get back to you this week to line up an interview' and blocked my number. So I've boycotted them, I'm not a coffee addict so I was easily able to quit them cold turkey. If they're not willing to hire, why should I contribute to keep them in business.

So many hiring managers/Managers in general are just blatantly power tripping and clearly use interviews as a way to stroke their ego and I'm so sick of it

That sounds illegal, I mean, I'm not a lawyer, and I know nothing about it, I won't pretend to, but that really sounds illegal, possibly discrimination for being a woman I guess? Idk

@@iamacatperson7226 Very illegal. They cannot ask about your plans for marriage, children, etc.

@@hiimcrazyfordrwho alright, thought so. I'm assuming the person above is in the US, but I imagine similar laws are in other places too

@@iamacatperson7226 it is. Especially in the Netherlands. But I didn't had proof because this is what they asked during the interview. The rejection mail was a standard...we have better canidates. Tbh I think I just did Dodge a bullet there ;) The job opportunities in Netherlands ain't that harsh. So for me it was too much trouble to proof what they said, and sewing them. In the end after this, I even didn't want the job anymore. Not after that wicked interview.

@@Samantha-wx4pt yea, sounds like it is good you didn’t get the job

My deepest empathy. Companies don’t even realize that they are losing out on great employees.

This is a mood... And it sucks. Despite the mum part I just can't.

I had a similar situation, someone gave me great advice. Just tell them you for parents/family business.

Different issues for myself but yeah results in the same, I wish you luck.

@@OmegaII that actually is okay way of doing it it's not perfect it's not everywhere is going to accept that but helping with the family business or something of that nature is typically a pretty good way to do it. And whether it's a liar lie but it raining I can always get someone to vouch for it I'm sure

As someone that is chronically late (not on purpose, I swear 😢), normally the only way I can be on time is to be distressing early, so I 1000% agree that being exactly on time is incredibly impressive! 😅

I am seldomly late, but I am always stressed about maybe being late so I end up being super early most of the time.

I got asked about my baby plans in a job interview (highly illegal), but since I was 18, I answered anyway (no, wont be breeding on your time). My interviewer was a married older lady with kids. And this didnt happen in some obscure small place, it was the University hospital in Helsinki. Im sure this shit goes down even today.

Great... a class that teaches you to discriminate on the basis of sex, marital status, and age. Did they also teach people to avoid hiring blacks and Jews?

@Wizard Suth Probably, wouldn't put it past anyone right of the center party and even some members of center party would probably do it.

Oh and they just banned Muslims from praying in a workplace's break room, despite discrimination based on religion being against the law. See, I am trans, while I might not agree with religion in general. I sure as hell know that the slope is very slippery. Once one minority falls, everyone else will be next and the fascist bigots win.

That lady was so damn wrong about it all, and that's not even considering the discriminatory point of view

I actually quit my job months before covid, to care for my mom who was very sick. She got better, I went back home right before quarantine. Cue me justifying 14months of gap, only 9months after the pandemic hit, and no one ever doing the maths.

What an inappropriate whacko! (Demon-lady.)

@@LeshaAnn yeah, she really pissed me off. It got worse when I told her I was quitting to work for the new company taking over my current clients day time hours. She actually told me I was ungrateful for her finding me hours (she was referencing when she had me working 7 days a week for 4 months and the 1 weekend I took off she made it out that it was my fault my client didn't have adequate care that weekend. The client went ballistic on her when they found out.)

Home healthcare companies are the worse. The amount of times I was either fucked over by them or they ignored mentioning about some of the shit my clients did to me (actually had one guy try to shove his hand down my pants repeatedly and keep trying to hit me multiple times yet the higher-ups made it out to be I'm being overdramatic since apparently assault is totally fine)

My father always said "You don't quit bad jobs, you quit bad managers." And yeah, he's absolutely right. Had management been better, I would've stuck it out with any of my previous jobs. But I make the same money or better with way less stress being my own boss driving Uber. Makes it hard to want a "real" job again.

I am amazed you guys can do that. Over here in Poland I'm struggling to find a full-time employment, because part-time jobs are not covered by government when it comes into insurance and healthcare. And believe me: it wouldn't be an issue, if not the fact the fees are exactly the same like in case of full-time jobs (and these fees in case of full-time jobs are at least covered by employer side).

the whole point of a corporation is to suck the most amount of wealth as possible out of its customers and its employees so that a small group of already wealthy white old men can make even more money. Never be loyal to a company, they don't care who you are

but i don't think we should let employees off scott free ...............alot of employers suck and that's why they ask these things

@@johndorian4078 same

I got the job btw haha

Three Months???? Good lord. Scam indeed, that is super sus to me.

Good to know you were a responsible adult with your priorities in order. Unlike them.

Would have wiped my ass with that letter then send it.

Yes! My phishing detector went off when I saw that.

Wow. I thought I was pretty good at detecting these things, but that one totally flew over me.

and they offer them a job, but they have them provide a blank check so they can send them a computer, phone etc. This was a scam last year and they used my company's name to drain this guys bank account.

It's not what you know, it's who you know.

Yeah…they just want us dead and claim its our fault🙃

As a neruodivergent and chronically ill person I would advise finiding a place where the overall goal is to creat diversity in one way or another. Then tell them about the neurodivergent bits that creat advantages over others..For example I mentioned that I am autistic but that means I will have a better eye for detail than others. I have DCD and dyslexia but that means I know how to make material more accessable to those with disabilities a lot better than others because I have lived it. I can learn and adapt quicker than most people because I have ADHD (they dont have to know that its because of the rejection sensitivity that I get work done so fast or that i will need a break every 3 months because of ADHD/ASD burnout). After getting hired I implimented all the needs I have and quoted the Equality Act 2010 when they started showing objections. The team i work in are very accepting as well and my manager and boss. My point is that you can highlight the good parts of your neurodivergency in a workplace that needs more diversity ^_^

Honestly, I 100% understand this feeling, I am nurodivergent and have chronic pain so working a full time job is unreasonable, I want to go to school and have been accepted into a journalism course but I don't think I can actually take it unless I get student loans.

Tbf that mindset isnt gonna help. I felt the same for a very long while and if you keep focusing on that and how unfair everything is it's just never gonna work out.

Yep. They're afraid to hire people who know their worth and will fight for it

Yeah. That's where Im at rn. For some reason companies in my field just put offers on their Hompages Jobs section and literally nowhere else .... Yeah fam I sure know every single employer in a 1h radius when Im literally trying to get an entry level job or paramedic apprenticeship. I don't know maybe bother listing it a little bit more, doesn't have to be Indeed but at least the local pages would be nice. And they still complain they don't get any applicants and are always so short staffed. (On that note they arent offering many apprenticeship postions even though that's literally the only way to get Paramedics in my country, there is a huge shortage of qualified ones which are they only ones they want to hire. Same for EMTs)

Fun fact, some companies do not want to pay to list multiple job types so they tend to group all the relevant positions into one job posting or they just expand an old post for a single job type to include multiple positions. For instance, when I was job hunting I was told by my neighbor that his company was looking for mechanical engineers (like me) and that I should apply to their job posting. The job posting was for electrical engineers but the company didn't want to edit it to include the other engineer types they were looking for or create new job postings for the new positions. Ironically never heard back from them.

Sounds like you dodged a bullet there... If they're that disorganized then who knows, they might have forgotten to send your paychecks too.

Happened to me many times. Most of the time the person already working there came in due to connections so they had to post the employee search online otherwise it would be illegal. Some other places employed the first candidate they liked and forgot to inform the rest about the change.

I'm very sorry for what you experienced. I hope you get your ESD soon so you can give it a good cuddle.

@@Aster_Risk Thank you! that is very kind.

…and then sh1t like 9:51 happens. That's just horrible that all of that happened to you.

@@John_Weiss Sometimes life just sucks. It is nice if people try a little harder to be kind. That makes the sucky parts hurt a little less. Thank you, that is kind of you.

@@madhonib You're very welcome! 🤗

Well that's expected from the L.O.L developers. Sorry it was a time waste though.

Wow, Riot Games doesn't know how to treat women like yourself with human decency and basic respect? I'm not surprised, because that got them into a lawsuit back in 2018 that they settled in 2021.

And this is exactly way I entered this industry with the sole purpose of building my own gaming atelier studio from scratch. No bloated growth. Organic approach to things. Small *forever* . Only contract more people if I can afford to pay them fairly and if I have time to talk to them personally during projects. No middle men. No hiding. I'd rather have a dozen good eggs working for me for my entire career and get them only a few (but cutting edge) machines to work on, than six buildings spread across the globe that require so much costly infrastructure to keep running I've to constantly pump sh*tty content and allow even worse work practices to keep it all afloat.

Your first mistake was working in Video Game Development

The purpose is also so that they can justify offering you the job as they had intended to do, at a lower payrate based on them "generously hiring you even though you don't quite meet the standards". If they admitted that your level of experience is what they actually expected and were wanting they'd have a harder time convincing you that your time is worth less than it should be.

I've been applying to jobs regardless of the required experience. It always seems to me like they don't actually want what they say they do, and it doesn't hurt me to apply for a job that I'm not qualified for. I plan to refuse a decrease in pay due to lack of experience, though. I know they'll try and pull that, and if they don't want me they should just say it. 🤷‍♀️ They can string me along all they like; I'm not going to compromise my sanity.

Those are also about getting visa slaves instead of local talent because yay tech jobs.

One of the stupidest things I've discovered is that many places will hire you even if you don't meet the 'requirements' they list. It's more of a wish list, but they'll settle. That. Is. Not. What. Requirements. Are. Just call them "ideal qualifications" or something. If you put them up as requirements, I'm not going to apply if I don't meet them. I think that's true of most sane people BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE FREAKING WORD MEANS

@@hmnhntr I think we're both irritated because we look at job postings as if they were primarily about conveying information. It might make more sense to look at them as manipulative messaging aimed at slanting the relationship with future employees in the employer's favor. The literal meaning of the words is secondary to how they help establish the hierarchy.

Interviews are inevitably somewhere I've not been to before. As I rely on public transport I plan to arrive at least an hour before the interview so I'm not late or flustered if the bus/train is delayed or cancelled. Once I've identified I'm in the right place I hang out somewhere nearby until an appropriate time, so I'm not in the way by being early. Someone walking in ON TIME could have been politely waiting in their car or at a nearby coffee shop so they didn't intrude or disrupt the process by arriving outwith a respectable timeframe.

Yes! This!!! I was apartment hunting a few months ago and my dad always goes to appointments like 40 minutes early and wants to go in right away and like No. No, we're not doing that.

Yep. Absolute bullshit, and just for them to change a couple words on some documents. And still, there's people out there who believe we're "choosing" this "lifestyle". Makes me want to throw up, I'm still traumatized from how one of the psychological evaluators (don't know if that's the right word in English) treated me. Are you German, by any chance, since your name suggests it and I'm sure other countries would have different legislation on transitioning?

Ive never been exposed to this stuff, what are the benefits of going through all that to change your name?

Versus the name change when you get married and have to just sign a piece of paper (and even get pressured/questioned about it if you don't want to) 🙄

@@theblinkingbrownie4654 trans people usually dont like their old name let's say your a trans girl that means you're born as a guy, and lets say your name is michael after transitioning, you'd likely want to change your name from michael to something more feminine

@@ichbinben. yeah! I’m German

nO ONe wAntS TO woRk

walmart wouldn't even hire me to be a janitor man

That's so stupid. Do they know part of taking care of a child is making sure you can afford to feed them and put a roof over their head? Even if she is married most families need two incomes to afford anything.

@@RyanPancakes you do also know sexist bigots don't really care. The biggest issue is she was qualified but bullied indirectly for her choice of working. I know it takes two incomes. I grew up in a family with both my parents working. Not necessarily for the money but that did allow us to have nicer things growing up. Like going to trips and splurging money on some occasions. I just don't get why this level of sexism still exists in well developped countries.

@@nikitatavernitilitvynova I’d mention the US breaking the federal protection for abortions, but let’s be real here, the US is basically just a third-world country wearing a fake Gucci belt.

Don't remember this particular event, but sadly it doesn't surprise me that much. I too have struggled quite a bit to be able to get a decent job here in Italy, thankfully never over sexism, just old-fashioned corporate ignorance and opportunism

I would nominate Jeff Bezos, Zuck or any of the big budget game dev CEOs. But they are so infamously punchable that it would never air because they'd be murdered on camera. Can we _please_ make them do it? Pretty please? 💩🔥

There's a US version I've seen, but it didn't look like they had to live on the wages as well... Knowing how hard the job is , is one thing.... Knowing how little that very difficult or messy etc job gives one to live on would be so much better

That a great show, real interesting stuff.

Yeah but they didn't have to got through the hiring process nor live with that job' salary without any help like Click suggested. That would make the show more interesting and a huge reality check for CEOs.

French/belgium version too^^😉

you should have applied as the ceo

@@Slothface 🤣

What's the pay? I'm thinking of applying

@@osheridan 7k a month and 1 month of vacation after 2 Years health insurance covered

Yeah, sounds like Wal-Mart, they've already been part of one class action about wages, I'd ask around to other workers and see if you can find a pattern of behavior, if you're not already.

Good Luck! I can't think of a company more worthy of being sued.

@@John_Weiss Neither can I.

Jesus Christ why is it so damn hard to pay employees properly? Walmart sounds like a hellhole :(

@@magnifichades9710 People who work for Walmart often also have to go on welfare, as well. It's why I refuse to set foot in one, nevermind actually buy anything from it. The worst part? The absolute worst part? Walmart wasn't always that way. When Sam Walton founded it, he focused on "Buy-American" and on being _somewhat_ reasonable with employee pay. It's what helped Sam Walton's businesses become so successful. Then it went public, became beholden to Wall St. instead of Main St., and Sam Walton died & his kids took over. The combination of the two is what changed Walmart into the paragon of dystopian-capitalism that it is today.

wut?

I was told by a recruitment agency to always be early but don’t be more than 10 mins early, apparently it’s a thing 🤷🏼‍♀️

@@kaygray6149 early enough to show you planned appropriately, but not so early that it could be awkward for whoever is meeting you. Like if your 30mins early someone needs to deal with you who wasn't planning to since depending on the company there may not be a reception area for visitors etc

Someone on this kind of program told me i had "amazing experience, but you're way too young, who would take that seriously in a professional job position or in a negotiation". I'm 21. I have a degree. But yeah I can't be taken seriously because I don't look old enough? Apparently it's not only being 20 years having 30 years of experience, but also looking 40 years old so people "take you seriously". Wtf.

@@Scarlett.Granger As someone who's constantly told I look younger than I am, I get so frustrated by this. And when I complain, people are like, "It's a compliment." No. It's an excuse people use to not take me seriously. After dropping out of university following a mental breakdown, I went to a small college and everyone there kept asking if I graduated high school early. I was like, "Um, no. I'm twenty-six."

Wow! Inappropriate af!

During one of my interviews I, male, was asked (as part of those random questions they ask to determine your personality) what Disney princess I consider to be the most similar to myself. I asked them, given Disney's acquisitions, what their definition of "Disney princess" would include (like if I could count Marvel characters) and after that I told them "Mulan, OG version, not live action" (and yes, I did specify which Mulan during the interview) given her work ethic and ingenuity. I proceeded to turn the tables on my interviewers by saying "well now you've got me curious, what Disney princess do you identify as?". I got a chuckle out of them and they also said Mulan for the same reasons. No clue if the interviewer actually agreed or just paniced and copied me, still funny to think about to this day.

For many of them, it's a case of "if I had to go through this, so will they", which, of course, is actually worse than having forgotten what it's like.

I actually got rejected on an online interview just because I let out a tiny breath after holding it for about a whole minute due to nerves.

Anything can be turned into an argument for or against you. If they want to find something they will

…and of course they'll complain, " WhY dO wE hAvE sUcH a HiGh TuRnOvEr RaTe?"

@@dziooooo They changed their look, so that they were not recognized. I forgot to mention this. But one can question if this was just fake 🙂

It's called Undercover Boss in the US, UK and Australia and is amazing

We have the same thing in France

Sounds like a scam. It's litterally their job to work with people like you, they should know to tell the difference between a real one and a fraud.

The angels punted it from heaven because they were jealous of it's adorableness

I have the perfect place for when mine arrives

mine is gonna be a late yule gift for my best friend (also a huge click fan)

my birthday lands on easter next so the emotional support demon is coming with me if I dont get my own party XD

It would arrive here on my birthday ouo

My thought exactly

The company I used to work for typically had Christmas parties. I guess during Covid, I left so I wasn’t there 🤷, because they couldn’t host a party they gave out 2$ Tim’s cards for coffee. For their over worked employees.. they were PSWs. Then during valentines they face everyone a cheap dollar store umbrella… again, they were PSWs. Good thing they are not THAT concerned about their workers getting rained on??? And! And, that they will be fully caffeinated on zero sleep because they are covering like 20 other peoples clients!? Good thing! Right????

it makes no sense for the job seeking person to have to lose money to be considered for a future position, with no guarantees of anything

One place I worked at kept all the bribes (promo stuff, gift cards, etc.), then handed them out at the Christmas party. It was sort of the best of both worlds. They can't accept the gifts personally, and it benefitted the staff. Usually everyone got about $100 in random stuff, in addition to Christmas bonus. Easily the best boss I ever had.

Also what kind of expectation does that set? You have already shown you are willing to bend over backwards just to be considered. How are they going to treat you if you are hired?

My favorite boss was one that I saw picking up trash, hauling trays, and making sure her employees ate. She was phenomenal and I wish the rest of the managers there weren't such shit that it forced me to leave.

@@MyNameHere101 I thankfully only work under one manager, but she does a lot of similar things to this. She's also really nice about time off for various events, including school stuff or just general social events

Mind if I ask what field you're in?

@@SewardWriter I work in a bakery part time while studying. Not American though

That's how I feel about my manager. She's the kind of manager I'd like to be (except easier on earbuds). She works so much alongside us in our chronically understaffed department and supports us through things and it's made everything better through the tough times that I've personally had. If I didn't have a manager who cared I would have quit a long time ago.