The audacity of Ella. She knew exactly what she did to that girl, and has the nerve of being sad that no one wants anything to do with her? Both Ella and OPs son are garbage people. I'd pick my daughter over a son that dates someone who bullied a girl to near suicide any day. "Hey mom I'm marrying my sisters abuser" would be our last conversation.
Exactly. I was in OP’s daughter’s situation. Twenty years later and I still struggle with body issues and residual eating disorder feelings. (I still have to fight the urge to starve myself as a punishment.) I love my brother more than almost anyone in the world, but if he came home and was like “Hey, I started dating Amanda, that girl you knew in junior high,” I’d give him a chance to come to his senses, and then that’s it. Goodbye. And I’d cut off anyone who picked her side.
Imma play devil’s advocate here: Ella probably doesn’t know exactly what she did to the daughter. She was probably her bitchy self throughout high school and if she never saw first hand what her words and actions did, she never would have connected it to her own actions. It’s not like the daughter is gonna want to see Ella when the daughter is in the hospital at her lowest, so Ella likely never knew. It’s that old trope where, for the victim, it’s the worst days of their lives, but for the aggressor, it was Tuesday. Here’s hoping that the crying to sleep was her realizing what she did and not just “woe is me”, but I’m not holding my breath.
@@Tustin2121 but the story stated she got punished for it?? You'd think someone would realise after that, no? But I think the biggest wrong doer is the son for even letting the bully into OP and her daughter's lives
@@chouhone - I mean, even if they did get punished, that was, what, a few days at most of suspension? Probably for what the girls thought were BS reasons at the time? Obviously didn’t sink in the full weight of what she did. And yes, the son is the biggest AH here for not even considering what this is doing to his own sister. Because he DEFINITELY has the context here.
@@Tustin2121 As much as I'd love to have faith in people I've been bullied a lot as a kid, and most I know have as well. In most cases they know exactly what they're doing and you self deleting was the goal. The bully who doesn't know her 'harmless jokes' caused real harm is an outlier
I had an ex that faked suicide in order to get me to see him after we broke up. I almost fell for it until a friend talked me out of it. He’s now dating a girl who’s probably being emotionally abused behind the scenes like I was.
@@alexanderhenby1362 I hope there's some way the OP could sue the former MIL for what she put her through. What a complete POS she, her son, and her co-conspirator all are.
So OP put all of her trauma and emotional vulnerability upfront at the beginning to try and make this an open and honest relationship, and all the BF got out of it was “Score!! Easy pickings for a prank victim!”
First story had an update: Daughter and OP had a talk. They met up and hashed it out. Daughter also posted her side of her story also. Basically, EX MIL paid a former friend (was a druggie) to lie to EX that wife cheated. Wife and Daughter are gonna be low contact for a bit. Also, MIL always told Daughter to never contact OP because she betrayed them. OP also talked to husband. He wanted to be together but that not happening.
@@rayannasmith2336 We can't link - flagged as Spam. But I saw the update. The daughter is totally clueless and got absolutely blasted. The OP for story 1 is giving her another chance, she is more forgiving than I would have been.
It's a good thing that OP cut contact with her ex-husband. Would you really be inclined to remarry the man dumb and naive enough to buy all that bullshit in a heartbeat? Yeah i don't think so.
@@BadassHater1 my brother in christ, the MIL literally paid an actor to convince him. What was he supposed to do, become Sherlock Holmes after his world came crashing down?
@@Slavino He KNOWS that his mother hates OP and is petty enough to show it in any way, shape or form. And here she comes with a random junkie out of nowhere saying "OP cheats on you" with no solid proof whatsoever. And he fucking bought that. Hook, line and sinker.
Story 5: This guy is a psychopath. His idea of a "prank" is emotional damage, and then tries to hide behind the "Just a prank, bro" when rightfully chastised about it. There's a reason why prank channels died on RU-vid.
Yeah there’s few things you never prank or joke about and one of the major ones is death especially suicide. Like what the hell goes through your mind to think that’s alright.
Exactly. I've heard that story before and when she talked about the pranks I stopped the video. It honestly fucked with me last time, so I can't even imagine being in her place.
Yep. I have CPTSD from constant emotional abuse in my teens. Someone told me that I was making it up and PTSD was only something veterans made up. That person was immediately not in my life anymore.
The level of willful f*ing ignorance it takes to make a statement like that...🤦♀️ I would cut that person out, not only for the bad behavior, but also because they're just too stupid
Update on Prank-Bro, his friends were calling her to say she should get over it and it was just a small thing but then she told them what he actually did so now he's complaining his friends and family are all against him. Dude clearly had issues.
Well, there's just no reasonable way to defend using 'self-termination' as a prank on anyone, let alone on someone who has their own share of mental health issues. His friends can still get effed for going at OP in the first place, but that dude is seriously a nutcase...aaand a nutsack while we're at it...
@@lacko623 Pretty sure he's a sadist but then I don't like any prank channels as they are always lying and it's hurting people instead of having fun together. He obviously lied big to his friends and then probably cried a lot for them to message her to take him back. He will just do things to a next girlfriend too though
Additionally, he told his mom OP had some emotional breakdown and he's "worried" about her, so the mom messaged OP about it... OP told her the truth and now his mom and older sister are pissed at him too, apologized on his behalf, etc. ... At least he's getting blasted by anyone in his life now, maybe he'll learn his lesson that way (I mean, I doubt it but there's still hope ig)
@@Netherdrop Well he'll learn to hide it better but that's why spouses are always the victims, they enact their fantasies and urges on them. They can be the sweetest son, a popular guy among friends, always ready to land a hand and at home they beat their wives black and blue.
@@Iflie John Wayne Gacy seemed like a stand up guy to family and friends too. A lot of serial killers seem to be normal, nice guys. Some have even been friends with the cops investigating their crimes. So don't take popularity to mean that anyone's a good person. Pranks can be harmless and fun or mean and sadistic. Anyone who takes pleasure in the mean ones is someone to avoid at all costs. They can and will turn on you someday.
Son: She cried herself to sleep! Me: Good. Now she knows on a miniscule level how op's daughter felt for years and still does after her abuse towards her. Edit: The replies and the likes, guys... Never thought this would blow up like that. Good to see there's some human decency left in the world!
Story 2: If I find out someone I'm seeing bullied someone, let alone my sibling, that would be the biggest turn off right then and there. To me this is on the same level as kicking a puppy or screaming in entitlement and service industry workers. People that do that have something deeply wrong going on and I wouldn't want to be anywhere near that.
When I was 19 or so, my 12 year old brother came home upset because some 20ish year old had been bullying him at work. I’d basically raised him since Mom left, so I saw red. I found the guy’s name, sent him a message on… MSN messenger or something just tearing a strip off him, told him if I found out he so much looked at my brother sideways, I’d have a go at the bastard before I called police. And the bullying stopped. A whiiile later (six months or more), he messaged me saying hi, and asked if I remembered him. I said no. His response “This is the guy who was going to beat up your brother.” “….the fuck do you want?” He fucking asked me out. He liked ‘dominant women’ or some shit. “….even if I wasn’t a lesbian, not a chance in hell.” It still blows my mind years later.
@@beautifulmidnight He was probably going to try to break you down by abusing you, anyway. Not all guys who say they like that in women do that, but most of them I've known are. I know you wouldn't have gone for it, anyway, but still, good on you for calling it out.
Agreed. I won't even make friends with people who choose to be part of a bully's inner circle. I would NEVER form a romantic relationship with the bully themselves. Who would ever want to be with someone so toxic and amoral?
I don't like hanging out with bullies in general, much less someone who would bully someone I cared about. The brother just doesnt care about his sister.
It’s crazy that Ella genuinely thought that if she married in to the family that she wouldn’t be hated. Like u Almost killed their daughter and thought they’d welcome u with open arms? And to b like “what did I do to make u treat me bad” like she doesnt know?
Devil’s advocate: maybe she didn’t actually know. If she never saw the results of her treatment (like saw her/heard she was in the hospital or anything), it was likely just another Tuesday for her, her and her “mean girls” level friends.
Meanwhile, I am listing to this story wondering why this OP still has a relationship with her pathological son. He dated, then married, that woman even knowing what a nasty piece of work she is; there has to be something wrong with him too.
I had an issue with people jumping out at me or sneaking up behind me. I had an older brother who LOVED to startle or scare me when I was a kid. My go to reaction became to punch who ever startled me. Not a light punch...a break your nose punch. It's amazing how quickly "pranksters" learn who NOT to "prank". I've learned to hesitate long enough to identify "friend or foe" or miss the person with age. It's amazing how a fist whizzing by your head will make you rethink your life choices. Luckily, with mature years, most people don't even think about it...probably afraid I'll have a stroke.
@@demondogmom7221slightly unrelated, but my coach had a javanese dad (his dad knows silat, a type of martial art for context) and one day he tried to scare his dad, and his dad’s immediate response was to slap him (from surprise) and he learnt to not do that
Story 3, the op should start charging his son rent. Even if the landlord is a seperate person from op, OP is the dude in charge of the apartment. It's not harsh if the kid is insisting he's going to evict single mothers.
Bet this entitled little shit watches Andrew Tate. It sounds like he's getting off on the idea of having power and mistreating women. Get this half wit off the internet!
I agree. He needs to learn about the laws. Depending on where someone lives, it's illegal to evict people just because they have children or to refuse to rent to them in most areas. If he does what he says he'll do, he will probably be slapped with some nasty lawsuits.
I feel like son is getting brainwashed in a cult like internet group. He has no idea squatters, trashy tenants, or slum lords. Being a landlord is not a cake walk, and to actually think he can evict a certain demographic.
The last story (From the 13:24 marker to the end of the video) has an update: OP broke up with her BF via text message, saying what he did really crossed a line with her and that she never wants to hear from him again. She blocked him from all her contacts and was thinking of even changing her number too. Her friend she was staying with helped retrieve most of her important stuff from the old place with her own boyfriend's help except for a TV and an XBox OP bought with her own money (she didn't feel like she had the energy to go through with getting those back, so she initially let it go). The Ex-BF's mom later contacted her to ask about what was going on, because Ex-BF called his mom telling her OP had a mental breakdown and ran away, and he was worried about her. OP told his mom what really happened, and the mom got PISSED! She apologized to OP immensely and said that that's not how she raised her son to be, and she even offered to help OP in any way that she could. After that, the mom then told Ex-BF's older sister about what happened, and even she became very pissed at her brother for what he did. The older sister also apologized for her brother's asshole behaviour, offering to help OP in any way that she could too, despite their not being entirely all that close. OP appreciated the gesture, but didn't want to trouble the sister all too much with the drama, but the sister insisted on helping because there was no way she was going to let her brother get away with what he did to OP. This whole ordeal left OP very drained and exhausted. She felt like she ignored all the red flags in that relationship because she was afraid of being alone. She's been trying not to completely blame herself for what happened, but also feels like this is what she gets for subjecting herself to this situation. She concludes the update hoping that nothing else from this drama ever comes up again, thanking her readers for their support and advice, promising to probably give another update once everything has all cooled down.
The story about the woman who wanted to go to medical school. My heart skipped a beat when I thought she was about to give up on her dreams and career for a man who just wanted to use her for her money and body. No one who loves you would make you sacrifice your dreams when you have the chance to follow them.
She shouldn’t divorce him though. She should just go to medical school and let him pay to support her until he files and even then she doesn’t have to leave. I’d delay taking on additional debt as long as possible. Let him support you and build up that emergency fund.
@@Janjones7735 kind of hard when spouse is telling her that he’ll only do this if she gives him a baby. Even then he’ll use the baby as an excuse to get out of the deal
As a victim of some pretty harsh bullying in my teen years, I can say that OP's daughter's bully deserves no sympathy. She likely doesn't remember what she did as bullying, but she deserves to be othered because of what she did. Let her cry. It's a small taste of the pain she put OP's daughter through
@@PikachuLittleyou don't realize that shit sticks with you for life, some people kill themselves over it and it takes years of therapy to finally even feel normal, i myself have anxiety and depression from years of abuse from bullies and 90% of my family from a young age and older, i dropped out of highschool cause of my anxiety and am now 19 being threatened with being kicked out and im probably gonna commit suicide when i do, dont tell people to just get over it cause if it was just that easy if it was just a buttin wd could press and all the trauma would go away id press thst button in an instant
Story 3: No that's a great idea R/, it's really easy to criticize something you don't do or have any real knowledge about, so I say let him learn firsthand what it's really like to rent a place to live. Especially since he's really disrespectful for someone who is living when his parents free of charge, and if he's old enough to disrespect his parents then he's old enough to pay rent.
Agreed. Taking the cell phone or internet away may work, but that's only a bandaid short term solution. You're only showing the kid you don't want him on whatever he's into and getting these ideas from. Making them more appealing because you're forbidding them. You're only dealing with the surface and not addressing the real problem. Time gor malicious parental compliance. Make the kid "pay rent (obviously just put it in a savings account or something temporarily) and each month increase the amount, or increase the frequency of when it's due. When he complains, which he almost no doubt will inevitably do, that's when you remind him of his own absurd notions about the sanctity of landlords and how they apparently can do no wrong. Make sure to ask for your landlord tip, too. Demonstrate the reality of the ideals he's been soaking up. Act completely innocent about it. "bUt I'm A laNdlorD, It's mY rIghT tO acT thIs waY." If he can't pay, or refuses, then "I gUesS I'll JuSt hAvE tO fiLe yOuR eViCtiOn nOtiCe, tHen. GooD lUck fiNdinG a PlAce, hOpE yoU'vE gOt a PlAn." With a follow up reminder that as a landlord, you can do anything you want, and it's perfectly fine to do so. Be sure to thank him for teaching you and being so smart and helpful about all this. In all reality, he's probably just being a dumb edgy teenager who thinks he's the smartest person in the room now, because he's browsed some reddit forums or something, and that he knows more than his dumb "rentoid" father. A good dosage of his own ideology applied to him for a short while should help him understand the lesson you're trying to get through far better than just taking his phone/internet away.
This is a bait post using the satire from a defuct subreddit called r/loveforlandlords, where a bunch of people pretend to be cartoonishly evil landlords who hate single mothers and require mandatory tips
@@luperamoon Thank you. That explains it. I thought the story sounded pretty absurd on its face, and was really scratching my head trying to figure out where this sort of idea would even come from in the first place. It's getting harder to distinguish satire from the actual true life nonsense these days. Maybe I'm just getting old.
There's no amount of apologizing you could do to make up for the fact that you believed psycho mom over your own wife. Honestly, I don't think she should forgive her daughter so easily either, she was 16 not 6 and was old enough to at least hear her own mother out. If the daughter is so mad that OP won't forgive them right away, then it sounds like both the ex and daughter are apologizing because they want to feel better about themselves and the horrible thing they did than to make OP feel better. Edit: I found the original Reddit thread and the daughter responded. She pretty much played the victim and took no responsibility for what she did. Pretty much said grandma love bombed me and bought me gift so I took her side over my mom's. And to make matters worse, it sounds like grandma paid a crackhead friend of the husband to lie about being in an affair with OP and everyone believed him. The fact that the ex didn't need anything more than the word of an addict just leaves me speechless. OP should move away and cut all her toxic ex family out of her life.
The thing is, lovebombing is a cult tactic for one reason: It works. And it works especially well with people who have very little life experience, like an actual minor person. The daughter was a jerk, sure, but she's young enough that she can learn from this and become a better person. The ex is just a fool, and I hold out no hope for him. He took the word of two toxic people he had supposedly cut out of his life over his partner.
Hey Rslash, I know you're currently on vacation but if the off chance you see this; The "Do it for Dan" post has officially turned into an insane saga! The entitlement of Dan, the SIL, and the parents know no bounds!!
Story 3, I'm actually in favor of charging the kid rent, (while holding on to it for his future, in a savings account mind you) to teach him the value of a dollar. But with that comes the actual teaching part, so you'll have to sit him down and break down how his money is being spent. Show him price listings for your area and fair market value.
I don't blame OP's daughter for believing her hurt father and lying grandmother when she was young, but the way she treated her mother after she found out the truth was awful.
yeah but theres updates where the daughter realized that she was an idiot and apologized, dont remember the whole thing but yeah... it was a shit show...
@@lifeofhonour curious though if she self realized her mistake or when she posted on Reddit to tell her story only to be given a reality check by the commenters?
The daughter said that her mom didn’t write the “whole story”… then proceeded to try to justify her awful actions and all her comments actually made the mom seem like even more of a good person being treated horribly by her family. So the comments were super angry at her, I think she deserved it because she sucks too, I feel terrible for the mom
@@barbarapearson5896 If it ended well, then I’ll take what I can get. Too many folks will roar and fight bitterly to avoid accepting fault for tiny stupid stuff, so anyone admitting to their fault is a blessing at this rate and that’s sad
The worst part is that the post the daughter made was so she "could tell her side of the story" but it was word for word identical and didn't add anything of value, which of course, made her look more like an massive A.
And that post really cemented her as a miniKaren. Saying things like “What my mother failed to mention” before saying things that there was no way her mother knew and trying to make herself a victim by saying she believed her Grandmother because she gave her presents
Yeah, at 21 she should have enough sense to realize how hurtful the dad's behavior was to her mom AND that she shouldn't ambush her mother at a FIRST meeting in 4 years.
The son in Story 3 is talking like those landlords on TikTok who try to make themselves more sympathetic but come off sounding even more greedy with a "hello, fellow kids" vibe. Come to think of it, wonder if THAT's where he got the idea to be a landlord?
That first story is interesting because not only does it have an update, but there’s also a post from the daughters POV and…i’ll be honest…the daughter actually looks WORSE in that. Op the fact that you’re even entertaining the idea of reconnecting with these awful people shows how good of a person you are. I wish you all the best
Yeah, the whole 'grandma bought me gift so I took her side' thing doesn't absolve her of her horrible behavior. She was old enough that she should have at least talked to her mother about what was going on. Instead she just blew her off because dumb daddy and grandma told her too.
@@lorilancaster5917 I don't think it has anything to do with OPs work. He just wants to go back to the way things were to pretend like the last 5 years didn't happen so he can absolve himself of guilt.
Lmao the first story gets even better, the daughter ended up making her own post to “tell her side of the story” and get sympathy points. No one bought any of her BS though, and she got absolutely SHREDDED in the comments for being a crappy person and crappy daughter. I THINK OP ended up updating to say that her daughter apologized to her and they were working on slowly building a relationship again without the ex.
If I remember right, she claimed that her mom left a lot of stuff out... and then proceeded to tell the exact same story from her point of view with the only differing details being ones that mom wouldn't have known about in the first place.
Story 2: Every time we hear a story of the bully/abuser crying when confronted with what they've done because it makes them feel bad, I'm thinking "You're a f*ing adult right now. How do you think the child you tormented felt?"
It sounds like OP and rest of the family stand by the daughter. While OP loves her son, she’s made it clear she’ll cope if son and his psycho wife go NC.
@@dragonfliesnh4204 Yeah, those people always like to say they've grown and changed, but if they really had then they would take accountability and give a damn apology
@@breezy3392 Yeah, I agree. If they truly had grown and changed, then they should start by apologizing for their bad behavior without expecting to be forgiven or building a relationship.
@@breezy3392 understandable, but consider this from the bully’s perspective (I know, I know). To quote M Bison “the day I burned your village was the worst day of your life. For me, it was Tuesday”. Many bullies just don’t understand the impact of their actions. “Why the hell should I apologize for something so petty?” “Are you seriously telling me that it’s been 20 years and you still haven’t gotten over it?” “Yes yes, crucify me for something I did in Middle School. God you sound pathetic.” That kind of mindset is a defensive mechanism, but being confronted with the results of something 10-15 years down the line creates a detachment from the events.
Definitely agree with the conclusion for the first story. Honestly, the ex doesn’t deserve a second chance. The daughter is old enough now to know better and she left on her own terms, so she only gets to come back into OP’s life on OP’s terms.
*First OP:* I'm speechless. I hope that Catch U Next Tuesday expires in a slow and painful manner. I hope OP continues to get better, with or without her ex and/or daughter. *Second OP:* I feel for OP's daughter. I'm glad OP stuck up for her daughter and told Ella off. Here's hoping either OP's son comes around and divorces Ella, or Ella gives a genuine apology to OP's daughter. *Third OP:* The AH in me wants OP to cut his son loose for a day and let him see how easy it is to find a place to live; let alone a house. Hopefully, OP's son will come to his senses. *Fourth OP:* _When Ultimatums Go Wrong_ Good for OP for choosing herself and her career. *Fifth OP:* I'm not one to resort to violence, but OP should sh@nk this clown up while saying, "It's just a prank, bro!" What is _wrong_ with this creep?!
For the third story, I'd be like, okay, you want to tip the landlord? You're going to start paying half the rent then. (Not forever obviously, I don't think he'd make a month of paying tbh, but just to show how much it actually is. Landlords aren't gifting the homes to people)
@@karlaotte6787 It was a bait post using the satire from a defuct subreddit called r/loveforlandlords, where a bunch of people pretend to be cartoonishly evil landlords who hate single mothers and require mandatory tips
Story 4: In all honesty, as sad as this story is, I think this PoS planned it all along. He didn't want a wife, he wanted a HOUSEwife. He took full advantage of her, kindness and love for him and for that he deserves to live exactly how he lived before OP got him out of the sh*t he was in. Once he got the feel of "being better" he went full egomaniac.
I met one of my brother’s bullies after we all graduated high school. I knew who she was but she didn’t know me. She didn’t understand why I was so against being her friend. Until I said my brother’s name. Was like watching a cartoon character turn white. Told her I would never want to be friends with someone like her. She saw my brother and I hanging out and we just acted like she didn’t exist. You bully my brother, you’re on my list.
My heart broke during the second story. I've always been a curvy/muscular woman. People don't understand that naturally curvy women aren't stick thin. My stomach has never been big at all, but not flat either since that's not my body type. Between the ages 11-15 I was SA'd, slapped on the butt, groped and bullied. This led me to get an ED. I'm 20 now and have it under control, but I still struggle with body dysmorphia. All bodies are beautiful, never forget that.
Exactly!! Muscular women are beautiful too! They dont "look like men" or whatever conservatives would try to peddle, and honestly, I'm so sorry you had to go through that hellish nonsense :(
I am so sorry this happened to you. I know exactly how you feel. I cant say I was just curvy/muscular back in school- I was actually overweight. But anyways this doesnt give others an excuse to treat someone this way. With 14 I started showing symptoms of depression and OCD, basically washed my skin bloody on a daily basis. Now I am 30 and still suffer from thought of self-harm, occasional deep depressions and OCD. I nuke a bottle of Dishsoap and shampoo a week to wash myself with, not because of the bullying far back then, but because it is now a "natural" response of mine to stress and worries. Luckily I have a husband who likes me chonky and tells me all the time that I am beautiful to him. But of course the self-consciousness never goes away. A lot of bullies cant imagine what permanent damage they can do to a person. I hope you are doing better and do your thing ❣
@@blackhagalaz I also have depression and OCD so I 100% understand. I used to stay up til 5 AM deep cleaning my room everyday. Thank you and I hope you know your chonk is stunningly beautiful:)
Last story: As someone with depression and anxiety disorders, that's a hard no from me. I would've broken things off after the 'spicy sad' bs if he just was not willing to be empathetic
That boyfriend in the last story really pisses me off! I suffer from depression, anxiety, and PTSD. I'm surprised she didn't cut and run the moment he started saying all of that about mental health, especially the "pEoPLe WiTh tRaUmA nEeD tO gEt oVeR iT," line. That's the mantra of people who have never experienced trauma in their lives and who lack understanding or empathy for others. I say lack of understanding because people with ASD have difficulty putting themselves in someone else's shoes, and I don't have a problem with people like that. They can't help it. I once dated someone that I now think is on the autistic spectrum, because, while he was pretty sweet for the most part, he really didn't seem to understand how it felt to have trauma. He had lived a pretty sheltered life, and also had no idea how dangerous the world can be. As such, he would constantly dismiss my concerns about my personal safety. But I digress. Anyway, it sounds like this idiot (OP's ex) is in the latter category: he lacks empathy. The first pranks were pretty mild and definitely something that can easily be laughed off, but definitely not the jump scare "pranks," let alone the fake suicide. For someone who has had issues with self-harm, that can be extremely triggering. That guy must be some kind of sociopath or psychopath.
There's something seriously wrong with the BF in the last story. Who thinks "I know, faking my death is the PERFECT prank!" and then goes through with it? Even if OP didn't have PTSD, coming home to that would be horrifying. She needs to run, not walk, away from this guy. Forever. He needs to have his head examined.
He watches prank channels, probably saw the idiot pregnant woman who faked having a miscarriage as a prank towards her boyfriend and the unborn baby’s father Or the guy who put blood in a pool and did a deadman’s float as a prank against his best friend. There are some majorly effed up people online
I heard an update to that story on another channel and I'm pleased to report that OP did indeed run and boyfriend's friends cut contact with him over the whole thing.
@@chanterelle483 and the mom freaked out about how he wasn’t the person she raised. He affectively ruined every relationship he ever had for pranking. Like the dude knew he was in the wrong but still blamed OP for it
Out of curiosity I went looking into the stories and *boy* things blew up in the first story. First off, there was an update. Turns out the demon MIL paid a friend of the ex to lie about seeing OP cheating. OP talked with her ex and is effectively going no contact with him minus any real emergencies in regards to their daughter. She does want to reconnect with her daughter but is talking about setting up a lot of boundaries and therapy together. All sides have cut out the demon MIL too. The big thing, however, is that the daughter was given a friend's account to post about it and is coming off *bad* . She's making herself out as a victim of abuse but a lot of people are getting on her ass that while manipulated, she didn't really bother to learn the facts and immediately jumped on to her father's side. She had all of four years to actually ask but never did anything and only found out about it through tiktok. She's also complaining about having to take care of her father who took the whole revelation very poorly.
Oh, she made her bed and now has sleep it in. What a sad story. Clearly she never did anything wrong. That girl deserves to be cut off by her mother. How can the mother ever trust them again.
@@rabidfirefox8914 OP does want to make right with her daughter and vice versa, it's just that the daughter isn't quite accepting responsibility for actions which sucks. Again, I'm not saying she's not a victim, but she did take everything at face value and had a chance to get details then didn't take it.
@@Sanodi21 I haven't read the daughter's post, but tbf, most of the time when this happens in real life, people shut down a bit to block themselves off from the betrayal, and from her perspective it probably seemed like she was presented with strong evidence of her mother cheating on her dad, hurting him deeply. And getting those gifts from a seemingly warm and friendly grandma goes a long way to helping a kid with that emotional shutoff they're doing to protect themselves. From what I've seen in the comments here at least, she's honestly acting about the way I would expect someone that age TO act, given their circumstances. We can speak from on high and with hindsight all we want about how things should have gone and what a smart person would do, but from my experiences her reactions were pretty normal, over all. I feel sorry for the dad ONLY in as much as yeah, it hurts to think your partner cheated on you. I don't even blame him for the initial outburst. Its an emotional sledgehammer to be presented with even faked proof of infidelity. But as an adult who knew his mother better than his daughter did, HE at least should have worked harder to make sure he was being told the truth. Should have had the knowledge of her enough to consider the evidence he was given wasn't face value. He does NOT get to try and force any sort of relationship with his ex wife. He had a whole year in the divorce proceedings to hear and listen to her, and he chose not to. Read the daughter's post but not of the comments: I stand by what I said. Daughter's reaction is what I'd expect of someone that age in those circumstances. I honestly don't get all the hate. Sounds to me like people were just jumping on to her back because of pity for the OP and unfairly putting blame at the daughter's feet.
Story 3: It sounds a lot like he's being influenced to a podcast I listen to... where they joke about this shit. He's in the right age range to enjoy it but take it seriously
More like run...him over with a car or a lawnmower. That dude is seriously not right in the head... He's in serious need of a taste of his own medicine...
I feel terrible for that mother. I looked up the post and people suggested she sue. But her therapist recommended not doing that. I really hope she does eventually as that MIL should not get away with this.
The parent should make him pay rent so he see what it's really like living in the real world then give all the money back when he's 18 and let him know that he's lucky cause no landlord would give his money back like that
Any parent worth their salt should be doing this. It's great prep for the real world and makes the transition out of the house so much smoother. Plus if the parents are well off enough, they can match and use the funds to get all the basics he'll need. It's just good parenting honestly.
There was an update where apparently the mom actually paid someone else to lie and "own up" to the "fact" that he was cheating with OP and thanks to that person the mom was able to scrounge up some false "evidence" that OP was cheating. It was a very elaborate lie that was more than just "because his mom said so" Basically, the mom is a piece of shit.
Story 2: she bullied your daughter into the hospital, and your son didn't give to craps about how am I this girl went out of her way to her his sister, not even an apology. You have every right to not want to be anywhere near this person, and she doesn't get to be sad, this is the consequences of her actions, and she can't just make a bunch of jokes about it to make it all go away. You would be a terrible mother if you ignore all of that and told your daughter to get over it.
100%. Imagine being the daughter, seeing your mom forgive the woman who made your life hell. I can’t fucking fathom that level of hurt and betrayal. OP is a good mom for standing by her daughter. Ella can fuck off.
She should get over it. It’s fucking pathetic to define your life around something some jackass did 15 years ago. Grow up, move on, deny reality, reject emotion, get revenge, hide the corpse, never bring it up again. This is basic stuff people
Story 2: the "fun" thing about bullies is that they sometimes don't remember bullying you. They remember not being in not to great of a relationship with you but since they weren't traumatized by the event unlike their target, they mostly don't remember it being "that bad". I'm not saying that is the case with Ella, it might not be cause her actions seemed to have had some consequences, but it's a not null possibility she indeed forgot
Story 2: I know people are free to date who they want but why would op’s brother date his sister’s bully. Since his sister was hospitalized due to SIL’s bullying then he knew on some level that his wife bullied his sister. Why is he surprised that karma is biting his wife in the a*ss.
Idk i guess she somewhat changed, and HE forgave her and was able to see that she changed. And maybe he just assumed, everyone else would just forgive her since they were together now. Some people really think like that. Im glad op told ella off, because she has some nerve to think everyone would just forgive and forget.
@@orchidoxs126 did she know an apology was necessary though? Did she understand just how serious her actions were? Did she know about the hospitalization? Because to me it sounds like she knew she was a dick, but it’s the kind of dickishness you just shrug off when your older because “it was highschool”. People can’t read minds so this could very well be the first time she actually heard how badly she hurt someone
Story1: when she's ready op should describe in detail the hell she went through thanks to her ex and his mom, if she still makes her feel like the bad guy, then it's probably best to move on
Story 5: My firm belief is most "Pranking" is sadism pure and simple. If ones actions are designed specifically to cause someone else pain for your own pleasure, well that's sadism no mater how often you say "It's only a prank".
Story 1: The nerve! I'm appalled they believed the monster in law in the first place, especially if it was just her word (but even if she had fabricated evidence, who would not talk to their spouse or mum to hear the other side?!). But yeah, now thinking they can dictate how their relationship goes on is toxic. I feel like they have a long way to go to have a relationship with OP again. And OP should probably only have one with her daughter, but a light version.
If by any chance the lady in the first story reads this, don't under any circumstances get back with your ex husband. My lady at some point was diagnosed with an STD. Never for a moment I suspected her, though she was a head turner. She suspended me a little though. In 2 weeks, the STD was magically gone after the first antibiotic treatment. Yeah, it had certainly been a contaminated test.
Prankster post has an update: She left him. Sent her friend to grab her things, except the TV and xbox she paid for. Ex bf's mom asked her what happened and son told his mom that op just ran away for some reason. Op explained to his mom what happened. Mom was horrified and told her she raised him better than that and will do something about it. Mom also told everything to prankster's sister and she's also mad too. Op is staying with her friend
Oh no poor Ella cried herself to sleep. What about the countless times OPs daughter did? Loosing those two people out of their life seems more like a blessing to me. To backstab his family like that what's wrong with the brother? In my shoes if she even came close to me I'd have to be held back with that kind of past.
The first story had an update.. The daughter called and apologized and said she wasn't bringing her dad but he begged and begged. She didn't want to but he made her.. They met up again and are working towards their relationship but she told her daughter in no uncertain terms to never ambush her like that as she wants nothing to do with her father.. He's still begging but she's a hard NO!!
The update of last story makes it worse: he lies to his family and friends about the prank and just says “she’s leaving me over a prank” so they are on his side until OP clarified what the prank was about. His mother was disgusted and his friends I think abandoned their friendship with him
Last story:Beat him with a chair until he begs for mercy and say “It’s just a prank bro” and keep beating him until he can’t even think of pranks because his brain is all over the floor
Nah, be more subtle than that. Maybe have someone dress up as cops and "arrest" him. Have them take him somewhere secluded and suggest they are going to 'make him pay'. Then leave him there. Blindfolded.
With the bathtub prank after his reveal I would have pushed him back in the tub and thrown a hair dryer in then use the text as evidence that he did it himself.
The story of OP's son planning to be a landlord, and putting down OP for being a renter. I was expecting that some part of the story, having the son asking OP for some money. Causing OP to have an evil smile, and say something like .... "Ohhhhh really you need money from me, a renter." Plus, I like what you suggested rslash, about charging the son.... some form of rent.
Story 2: as someone who’s been through a similar situation to OP’s daughter, I think OP is being almost TOO nice to Ella… makes me happy she cried herself to sleep icl, she deserves worse and her husbands clearly a prick too :)
Nah she was being an idiot. If having Ella in the family was such a problem OP should’ve confronted both Ella and the son about it right away. She’s had what, a decade? She could’ve spared EVERYONE so much inconvenience.
Story 3: Yeah, he's one of those people who thinks that life will just be easy for them, only for reality to run them over. He'll eventually drop that ego, that is if he's willing to. Otherwise, we might see him in EntitledPeople, or worse
Yeah a lot of people don't realize the time and money that goes into being a landlord, not to mention the legal issues. They think it's easy money. It is, if you're willing to risk a lawsuit from a knowledgeable tenant XD
That last story, the whole "too much flavor in my water or too much salt in my food" i see those as pranks, granted id only do them like 1 a month maybe, like id not be that much of an Ahole that id do that kinda thing every week let alone every day, but the whole jumpinf out and scaring your gf who has PTSD and your just brushing it off as if its nothing is just deplorable at best and downright cruel at worst
If you have a good landlord, talk to him and have him talk to your son about the downside or bad problems that a landlord can face. Last story, that boyfriend has GOT TO GO!
4th Story, I support you leaving him, also take him for what he's worth. How dare he make you work your ass off so he can get his dream job and then turn around and ask you to give up your dream and renege on the deal. Ho can he expect you to do everything to support him and he waffled at the critical moment. At best he's a jackass who wants to change your mind. At worst, he used you.
I am a landlord . I rent my later grandmothers apartment and I honestly can’t imagine pulling dumb shit like this . I would much rather have renters who pay a smaller rent but who are reliable people and who won’t wreck the apartment then to try and squeeze and cheat out the renters and constantly be engaged in drama
Second story: She remembers it, she doesn't apologize, so she doesn't feel bad of almost killing her sister in law before the was her sister in law. She's really lucky OP has been keeping it civil and OP's son is lucky he wasn't disowned when he married that bully.
She barely remembers it and likely didn’t know about the hospitalization. To her it was petty highschool banter. Did OP ever directly confront her about the bullying before this point? Because if she didn’t then it’s very easy to see why Ella just plain doesn’t understand the impact of her actions. Or do you think she’s psychic?
For the third story, there's an easy way to solve the problem with the kid: show him house listings. Show him the house, then show him the price of said house, and them ask him how much money does he make a month. Then remind him that he'll be 18 and going to college in three years. That may be a good wake up call.
I've heard the first story multiple times and know about the couple updates with the daughter. I find it odd that nobody seems to mention how the daughter was practically RAISED by the manipulative narcissist grandmother and dumb momma's boy father, probably picking up some garbage traits from both. I am NOT surprised that after contacting her mother and trying to reconcile, she is still coming off as a jerk. She'll have to unlearn years of bias, selfishness, and ignorance if she wants to have a real relationship with her poor mother.
For that last story, you took the words right out of my mouth. Even if mental health had nothing to do with it, I wouldn't stay with someone who did this stuff. I love a man who can make me laugh, of course, but that's taking it WAY too far.
my husband and I prank each other but we keep it pretty mild. the worst my husband has done is replace the book I was reading (which I kept in my purse) with the 3rd book in the series (I was at the beginning of the second) resulting in me waiting for the bus for 20 minutes bored out of my mind (I don't have games on my phone). the worst I've done to him is a couple of minutes before he was supposed to wake up for work, I ran into the room and yelled that he was late for work. the extent the guy in the story went to is NOT pranks. pranks don't cause panic attacks, pranks don't hurt people. this guy needs psychological help, and so does everyone else that thinks this stuff is funny
Third story: Show him how much the rent costs per month. Then say "How much of this are you willing to cover?" and point out how much of his expenses are there. Also say "Your first payment will be due on the first of next month. And don't forget the tip!"
The fear of how family would react to finding you PREVENTS A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM COMMITTING SUICIDE! How you think that it's in any way a prank is insane.
Story 1: the fact the daughter had the nerve to call her mother an AH for leaving her and her father at a restaurant, when her and her father completely cut contact with her mother for 4 years not even getting her side of the story. She deserves to be motherless
I went through something vaguely similar to the last story semi-recently. The only differences were that 1. My boyfriend has actually attempted suicide before and 2. He didn’t do the whole bathtub thing. He just sent me the “I love you. I’m sorry.” message. And then didn’t answer his phone when I called. I was DRIVING at the time. I ended up having a panic attack in the Walmart parking lot (I had to pick up a prescription). He ended up sending me a bunch of texts about how he was so, so sorry and that he didn’t even think about that and he called me and profusely apologized. I did forgive him and we’re fine now. But he is NEVER living that down.
Story four: It sounds like he might of had this plan set up before hand. I think he wanted to make sure he made more than her and could control her. He most likely planned for him to go and finish school before her thinking she would think she would be in too deep to leave. That is so sad that he only thought of himself and what he wanted. She dodged a bullet. If she waited he most likely would never allow her to go finish school finding any reason he could to keep her out, "Oh you need to save money for their school".
"Confuse, don't abuse." A prank is hiding five hundred inch-long plastic frogs in weird places around your someone's home. A prank is changing all of someone's ringtones to ABBA's greatest hits. Buying only blue groceries one week. Turning all their clothes inside out then re-folding them and putting them away. A prank isn't taking advantage of someone's honest vulnerability to destroy their mental health for your own amusement. Eff that guy.
Story one: It is sad the ex just thinks they can be together again. He totally believed his mother who was shown to be horrible. He took away her daughter for years and made her hate OP. Now once the truth is out wants to get back with OP like nothing happened. 100% no way. He proved to her he never fully trust her and will take everything away from her. He crushed her and wants to shrug it off and act like nothing happened.
**TRIGGER WARNING** As someone who has experienced almost all rings of hell worth trauma, and someone who still struggles with depression and mental health, the fact that the guy ""pranked """ like that, makes my blood boil. My husband, who actually takes my mental health very seriously, would never go to that extreme. Thank God. OP I hope to God you're alright and safe.
Story 1: OP she didn't even put any real effort into making you look like a cheater, no pictures or videos of you in bed with someone, just that she saw you in a restaurant with a man. To me your husband isn't blameless in this, he threw this away so easily and he had a GF when his mom confessed that she lied. Your daughter may have been Young when all of this happened but she's an adult now anything she does at this point forward can no longer be blamed on her ignorance.
The prank story had an update. The ex told his mom that OP "had a mental break down and ran off so he got worried". The mom called OP and she told them what happend. Mom got super pissed and told ex's sister. Both mother and sister called OP and apoligized and told her that if she needed anything to call them. The sister even said she will tell everyone what he did (most likely to blacklist him).
As a landlord, single moms with school-age children are actually some of the best tenants - they work hard, they usually have one or two jobs, and they pay their rent on time because they don’t want to uproot their children.
I was doing something while listening to this and when I got to the last story and it got to that part with the bathtub, I literally froze in place and put down my stuff. Even if OP didn't have PTSD, that isn't funny, that is just sick. I miss the times when pranks was about doing something to someone that was actually funny and would make the one being pranked laugh too.
Story 3: The guy is 15, so benefit of the doubt & "benefit of youth" (so hoping he changes his mind when he grows up (mentally) But I really have to hold back not hurling the biggest of insults towards people who seriously use the word "Rentoid". In my experience (on- and offline) these people are the lowest of the low and absolute human garbage.
Last story: holy crap. This guy took pranking to a whole new level. OP should completely cut this guy off from her life and tell everyone how horrible he is with his pranks.
fourth story : I fully expected for the husband to leave you once he had his education and job. You supported him, yet he didn't support you. He wasn't willing to put the same amount of efforts you put in the relationship. He's trash.
You know those older RSlash videos where the victim’s family gather some friends to beat and brutalize the bad guy? I think Ella should be a part of that for what she did, and honestly the psychotic last guy deserves the same
And the the rest of his family had ALL the time in the world to confront him about it instead of being a bunch of petty, passive aggressive troglodytes. Seriously is it so hard to talk to people anymore?
