Race to Arctic Circle between Mach-e, Taycan and Model 3 part 2 with  

I saw Baffin island, but everything north of tromso is above prudhoe bay!

The Grand Artic Tour!

A winter race would be amazing as well

Pawel is 'captain slow' ;-)

These are proper tests, Top Gear is fiction, made for the laughs

Do they really want to wait so long time for the schkodda?

Next race: Honda e, Lexus UX 300e and Mazda MX-30

@@pka8514 that would be an interesting and even race of the outsider's

@@davids.6671 why so harsh? tesla would win most likely, but Ioniq has higher consuption compared to Enyaq, so these two could be quite close

@@RandomTheories I don't believe the higher consumption to the enyaq. I compared both cars. But I decided for model 3. If you go with Enyaq you will need 77 kWh to go on par with a SR+ model 3. But here in Germany the charging is so expensive it would cost me 400€ more per year charging on highways only. But the Enyaq cost 8000€ more than the SR+.. I also can't have loading times >20 min with children without RU-vid.

Yes, I missed seing some statistics at the end. Maybe we can find them on Bjorns website...

Well, considering the Mach-E’s pack is almost 20kwh larger, the efficiency of the Tesla is amazing. 77 vs 95kwh I think?

@Ferdi Posh I just rephrased it :D

@@JoeyDee86 I think Bjorn was driving the SR+? That would be a 55KWh pack...

Agreed. Where are the stats?

Ill rent out our cabin super cheap for you :)

Make sure to spend a Lots of money.expensive country due to oil money.

Model 3 SR+ is already quite ordinary.

@@bjornnyland If you have the money :)

@@Klabbob In the UK there's about a £10,000 difference.

@@Klabbob German prices ... don't know why, but sr+ is fucking cheap in Germany... In Austria you pay like 46k€ and have less fundings for EVs. BUT still Tesla sr+ is the best value for this money.

@@Klabbob 39k€ vs. 50k€ where I live. I can only dream of sub 40k€ Tesla Model 3, not even used ones are that cheap.

Yep. A LR Model with LFP would be nice.

@@haselhofler i had 2 Fermont SR+ before and now the 1st Shanghai with LFP. I also think i'll not let the car be parked with 100% or much above 90% often... but 95% feels better now and also charging to 100% more often feeld good. It also charges a lot faster at the high 90s compared to the Fermont cars... i guess i'll go to 100% maybe 2-3 times a month.

@@haselhofler Maybe, but i asked Tesla and they said, set it to 100% and don't touch it again. They say it should always be 100%. I think Elon wrote this too, not so long ago.

@@shortfattoad7317 What engine? There is no engine In Tesla...

Wake up to today. M3 of Tesla is much more produced and common than M3 of BMW.

Not at all. Tesla scales up their superchargers for peak traffic during weekends, holidays, etc. And remember that two and two stalls share power. So it doesn't cost Tesla too much to make so many stalls compared to some other companies.

@@bjornnyland I'm not saying they're never utilised. Just that in periods such as this, they could be making money. For instance, all 3 of you could have charged there and given Tesla money during this trip with no disadvantage to current Tesla owners.

Of course. the one with the best wins. the Tesla is "only" a SR+ with much less battery than the Mach E. And it still wins. Because SuC is superior to anything else.

It may be more even to replace the Model Y for the Model 3.

I was driving model 3 and was passenger in S few times (my friend and coworker has 2019 Model S). I would never buy any Tesla. Why? Even my Mazda CX5 (MY18, top version) has 3 times better quality materials, better finish quality and better onboard equipment. Come on, I would never buy a car with leather seats (pathetic quality leather) and without ventilation or HUD for more than 35-40k €. Not mentioning Tesla service quality, delays and ques. For me Tesla vehicles are worth less than half of their current price. Who cares about empty (useless) power if you can drive max 90km/h or 130km/h on most roads? Also EV range with speeds exceeding 150km/h is pathetic in every possible vehicle. Also my friends experience: no parts (availability = 0), weeks in Tesla service (so he was left without a car), many glitches (he was more than 10 times in service already due to failiures). Not acceptable even in Dacia... Also Tesla paint quality is extreme joke. :/ Just look on Tesla forum. More problems than any fun. Typical BMW rebate is 15%-22% in my country, but I am not sure if it also counts towards EV's. I think it should due to the sales and CO2 emission average but... who knows. Also BMW is a liftback (I love sedans, but liftbacks even more). I like also Genesis G80 EV but that conversion is worse - loosing lots of space in the trunk and second row height in comparison to the petrol G80. But it looks awesome and solar roof is a nice thing to have (preventing passive discharge, slightly charging, still better survivability than typical paint on the roof [chips]). G80 has also double layered acoustic glass (even for rear seats). Fun fact: you will get a fine if you turn on the windshield wipers on 3 models while driving (in Germany, Poland and maybe even Czech Republic). Why? Because stupid Tesla has that option in damn computer settings. Tesla is cheap. They are saving on everything including basic controls and buttons. Their main "pros" are: EV engineering (power & range) and... fashion (whatever it sounds, since cool kids have Tesla's, at least for now).

SULFUR holy shit no one is reading that block of text. Just say you’re biased and move on. You’re not even remotely fooling anyone into thinking this is actually some unbiased, open-minded decision.

@@romansenger2322 because it is just my personal opinion and I am not an asshole :P short version: Tesla quality and service sucks including being overpriced Aaand there is also nice Genesis G80 EV around the corner (which main cons are lesser trunk and second row height)

@@SULFURIOUS There's having an opinion and then writing bullshit, yours is solidly in the second camp.

@@SULFURIOUS anyways

Always fastest - to clear the charger for the next person. I read recently that Kistefos museum in Norway installed 22KW chargers because visitors spend 2-3 hours there on average, so this would allow a useful amount of charge without having to come back to the car and move it during the visit. Superchargers on the other hand are designed for journeys.

Charge and go! Or charge and move the car to another parking place.

You can sort of control the charging speed in a very very indirect way: by the % of State of Charge you arrive at the supercharger, the lower the % you arrive normally the faster it will charge, if you manage to arrive with high % at the next supercharger then you will charge slower, that's the "control" you have

I don't believe you are able to limit charging speed on any type of DC charger.

If you want to charge slower then don't preheat the battery.

You can do any trip in either of these cars comfortably and effortlessly, this was a race, and one wouldn't travel like that in real life.

Maybe they roll out a winter update till then. We have to wait and see. But indeed, doesn't look good.

@@kasmopaya2676 They already did last winter, but you still see it's not pre-heating fast enough even at 8 degrees C...

@@gabyk.5074 Yes, maybe they have to be more aggressive. I admit, I am glad I have got the last Fremont SR+ in Europe ever, but let's just wait and see.

@@kasmopaya2676 Yep, but just so you are aware Model SR+ (Model 3 & Y) has been certified as approved in Europe for a 60 kwh LFP battery , could be that by the end of the year or beginning of the next year there will be 60 kwh LFP batteries in the SR+ models, which should add another 10% range.

@@gabyk.5074 Cool, I order my next SR+ February 2022, hopefully I get the refresh. Thanks for the info.

The formula would be useless if you would arrive at a charger with 50% instead of 2% and you spend the same amount of time charging to 90% for your next charger. The formula seems to be: for the first leg: the legal limit if it allows you to reach the next high power fast charger with between 1% and 15% battery left. For the following legs of the journey you charge the minimum necessary to drive the speed limit and reach the next fast charger with between 5-15%. Repeat until destination is reached or car catches fire.

Tesla had 13% in the end, meaning he theoretically charged for 3 minutes more than necessary at the previous stop. I would not consider that "way before".

More range, faster charging speed. I think so

@@AndrewSienx Indeed, the 1000 km challenge says it all, the fastest EV there is, on long trips.

Of course lol it's the current 1000km king

@@romansenger2322 How do you know if you have the good or the bad battery?

@@AndrewSienx depends on the route/infrastructure. As Bjorn said mach e drove 600km without high power charger and still kept up. So an other route would a totally different result.

I would personally stick to basic autopilot or enhanced if you really need auto lane change and summon. FSD is worthless

Thanks for the quick reply :)

@@wolfgangpreier9160 oh, didn't know that. I live in Ukraine but I have an US imported Tesla. Maybe that's why it works fine for me

I would go for Enhanced AP since it adds "Navigate on AP", Autopark and Smart Summon which are all pretty neat, especially if they get better with Software Updates. FSD might be worth it in the US, in Europe it currently adds basically nothing and is not really safe IMHO.

@@romansenger2322 I agree about FSD, but EAP does have some worthwhile benefits IMHO

Yes

Didn't you watch the video? Great efficiency sure, but also faster chargers in the north of Norway. The non-Tesla EV had to rely on 50kW chargers...

Mostly because the other cars can not use Tesla supercharger network, but it is more efficient as well.

@@Danne89 Indeed, can't beat Supercharger network...

Ford did an excellent job but still - loses with Model 3 Standard Range +, not the Long Range version... There is still a huge gap to Tesla.

@@krystiantwarog9609 Different cars. You cant compare model 3 with SUV. That is why both Bjorn and Kris where so surprised that it did so good.

@@krohner5190 Yes we can :) You can not compare Tesla 3 LR to Mustang LR. But this is Tesla SR+ with really small range (of course is very efficent) but Mustang has a huge battery compare to Tesla. Tesla Y doesnt offer RWD version so... what do you want to compare with? :)

@@krystiantwarog9609 and a really small and light car too.

@@krystiantwarog9609 model y and mach e. Both SUV.

It's not just about the car.. you also need three people who don't mind getting caught speeding at 100+. With high consumption high speed running, the top end charge curve matters a lot more. Not saying it can't be done faster in a Tesla, just that it's a ballsy record to even attempt.

Get RU-vid Premium... haven't seen a commercial break in years...😉

I think it is okay, he has to pay Pawel a bit for his troubles too I think. Kris gets payed from his own youtube channel I guess, but if he is not big enough yet, maybe he is also payed from this video. So, I don't mind.

RU-vid red. No adds at all.

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they said 99 in one of the videos

88 neto

Excellent GOM on the Mach-e lets you go deeper with confidence. On Tesla, you need to rely on ABRP to get accurate range.

MrGonzonator that is absolutely incorrect. Tesla’s built in route is extremely precise and accounts for elevation, temperature, past driving speeds. I really doubt you own or have even driven a Tesla long distance if you think their own built in route estimator is not only worse than Ford’s, but so bad you need to rely on 3rd party apps. It’s extremely accurate for planning charging stations.

@@philorgneopolotin8762 so why does Bjorn, who has driven more Tesla miles then most, use ABRP? Why do Now You Know, who are the biggest Tesla fan boys out there, also recommend ABRP?

@@MrGonzonator Maybe because they want to be able to add in more stops? I don't know. But in my tesla over the 2 years I've had it I have always been able to rely on the navigation. Usually it's within 3% error.

Not to mention that you can go deeper under 0% with Tesla than most other vehicles.

99 %

It would win. Bjorn said that they drove 600 km where mache didn't have high power chargers.

Bring it on. I will be using Model 3 Long Range ;)

I don't know for this trip, but I have a house at the Mediterranean in the south of France and I live in Switzerland. With my Mercedes CLK 430 it used to take me about 8 hours to get there. With the small battery (58kWh) AWD Ioniq 5 it takes eight and a half hours and with the 28kWh Ioniq it used to take nine and a half hours. So you could assume that in real live you would loose no more than about an hour in any current EV on a 800km trip, compared to an ICE car. However, depending on where in the World you would take this trip and which EV you would use, this may vary greatly.

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