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Re-Editing the Rach 3 Ossia Cadenza!? 

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This took a crazy amount of editing! Special thanks to Luis Cisneros for helping.
PDF of my edited version of the Ossia Cadenza: drive.google.com/file/d/1QX47...
*I have noticed several typos which I updated, and there is so much material that there are doubtless some I have not noticed. I will continue to update this file over time. If you notice a specific typo(s) please let me know so I can update it!*
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Комментарии : 26   
@valeriesmith15
@valeriesmith15 Год назад
Thank you so much.
@claudiaosk3464
@claudiaosk3464 Год назад
thanks Josh for this great turorial of the music of my favorite composer. This piece is far too difficult for me🙃 (a former prof. violinist) but I still enjoy so much listening to your lessons. I also just wanted to say happy new year and all the best and I hope to hear many more tutorial in the coming year🙂 Claudia in Iceland
@ninjafruit816
@ninjafruit816 Год назад
Wonderful! I never sat down to fully dissect the ossia fingerings before, will definitely be trying yours out. Bar 371, there’s some missing natural and sharps in the top notes in the third triplet.
@joshvigranmusic
@joshvigranmusic Год назад
Thank you! I'll update the file with those corrections
@MattCooperKay
@MattCooperKay Год назад
Absolutely no hope of me playing this, but it was fascinating to watch 👌
@Mondelfe
@Mondelfe Год назад
Thank you for the huge effort you are putting into this project. In 2018 I searched the whole internet for fingerings for the concerto and couldn't find them anywhere. Likewise, there were almost no analyses or clues on RU-vid on how to play it and such helpful and understandable tips. I wouldn't have dared to dream then that someday someone would make such a series on my favorite piano concerto. What you are doing here is such a valuable decade work and numerous pianists will still be grateful to you for it. And even if for me personally it is not yet in sight that I will be able to play it one day, your videos are a constant motivation to at least try to start with easier parts. Priceless. Thanks also for your numerous and instructive Patreon videos on the subject. The fact that you have opened this account was one of the reasons why 2022 has become a reasonably good piano playing year for me.
@joshvigranmusic
@joshvigranmusic Год назад
So glad that it helped!!
@JoyceTsaifox
@JoyceTsaifox Год назад
Wow, this is awesome! Treasure even! Thank you Josh for the explanations of the techniques and tips. 🥰 What's your secret to memorizing all the chords and notes?
@joshvigranmusic
@joshvigranmusic Год назад
Thanks! I guess the secret is a good understanding of harmony and the scales/arpeggios that go with the chords. I try to make sure I understand what's happening in each phrase. I tell my students that good harmonic understanding should be like becoming literate in a language, so it goes from sounding out individual letters into a word, then from words into sentences, and finally sentences forming paragraphs and sections. That's the more general answer and then I get more specific for each phrase!
@JoyceTsaifox
@JoyceTsaifox Год назад
@@joshvigranmusic Thanks for the answer. I look forward to more of your tutorials 🤩
@joshvigranmusic
@joshvigranmusic Год назад
@@JoyceTsaifox thanks! I haven't had much output recently because I'm in the middle of a bunch of other projects, plus remodeling my music studio, but I will have more coming!
@tchaffman
@tchaffman 7 месяцев назад
Hey, I'm just learning this piece so you obviously know it better than I do, but I think there might be a little typo in m. 365 (f# should be a g). That said, I love your score and thanks for sharing it with us. When can we expect the full edition?
@joshvigranmusic
@joshvigranmusic 7 месяцев назад
Yes I made a correction to that in the full version I believe but I forgot to update it on this link, thanks for the reminder!. I'll make sure to do that. The 1st movement is already complete and available on my Patreon, and I'm about 75 measures through the 2nd movement right now, putting out weekly updates. The whole process is taking longer than it previously did as I lost my main sponsor due to the situation in Ukraine.
@Joel-wm2ee
@Joel-wm2ee Год назад
Thanks Josh for the great tips and your edition for the Rach 3 Ossia --- I find it awesome and it is so much easier to read than the published editions available. One small suggestion that I would have is, please consider using cross-staff notations or L-shaped brackets to denote suggested use of different hands to play some notes rather than moving the note and the stem themselves to the different staff. It would be much better if the (editorial) score could remain as similar to the original editions as possible in terms of engraving and voices, as it may have some impacts on subtle voicing or musical interpretations. Some other nitpickings would be that the "8va.." signs seem overly big, and that the bar number since two different versions of Cadenzas would join together (m.342) seems confusing; you may consider adding alternative bar numbers as well (e.g. m.306 in the original v.s. m.308 w/ ossia). All that said, thanks again for sharing such an invaluable score that allows more effective practicing!
@joshvigranmusic
@joshvigranmusic Год назад
These are all good points. In reference to the size of the 8va I have no idea how to change that on musescore unfortunately. They are definitely too big. I'll go ahead and make some changes and update.
@joshvigranmusic
@joshvigranmusic Год назад
And also I'm trying to figure out how to deal with the measure number issue.... since he followed the measures for the original cadenza. I'll do some research
@onethegogd5783
@onethegogd5783 Год назад
9:54 I personally find over-the-octave technique better with 1-2-3-5 1-2-4-5 fingers
@joshvigranmusic
@joshvigranmusic Год назад
Yeah it could definitely be approached different ways. Whatever you can play consistently with the right sound 👍
@thegappproject
@thegappproject 3 месяца назад
Josh. Is it possible to get a copy of this in hard copy? Happy to pay.
@joshvigranmusic
@joshvigranmusic 3 месяца назад
Right now I have completed the first 2 movements. PDFs are available for subscribers on Patreon. Once I finish the 3rd movement I want to get it published in a hard copy!
@thegappproject
@thegappproject 3 месяца назад
Awesome. Could you let me know if/when it is published in hard copy. I would very much like to purchase it. The available scores, as you rightly point out, are almost impossible to read in the Cadenza section. Amazing work Josh. They should give you a Ph.d for this!
@Joel-wm2ee
@Joel-wm2ee Год назад
I wrote some small suggestion for you here but it seems that was removed. Why has my comment been removed?
@joshvigranmusic
@joshvigranmusic Год назад
I did not personally remove any comment so I don't know why that happened. Must have been some system issue... Sorry about that! What was your suggestion?
@Joel-wm2ee
@Joel-wm2ee Год назад
@@joshvigranmusic I see, thanks for letting me know. I have no idea why it was gone -- I've written again in another comment. Thank you!
@Joel-wm2ee
@Joel-wm2ee Год назад
Hmm something is wrong with RU-vid comments. The # of total comments increase but the comment I write is gone (again) after refreshing the page. Weird. Perhaps automatically flagged as scam or abusive contents or something
@joshvigranmusic
@joshvigranmusic Год назад
@@Joel-wm2ee youtube has a lot of issues, I'm sure it probably thought your comment was spam in the same way it somethings flags my original recordings as copyright infringement.... 😏
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