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Reading Through Ruby Franke's Diary | It's So Crazy What She Admitted To! 

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@desertflower9858
@desertflower9858 6 месяцев назад
If these women had done this to adults, the charges would not be "abuse". It would be kidnapping, assault, torture, attempted murder, etc..
@GG-uk3dn
@GG-uk3dn 6 месяцев назад
So TRUE!!!!!!!
@cookiedough641
@cookiedough641 6 месяцев назад
100%
@tinsakamp
@tinsakamp 6 месяцев назад
VERY good point!! 😳💔 I didn't even think of that!!
@maneckineckbeard1749
@maneckineckbeard1749 6 месяцев назад
YES!! I don't know why they weren't charged with False Imprisonment at the very least!!
@chewyjello1
@chewyjello1 6 месяцев назад
YEP! Children are the MOST vulnerable in our society and the LEAST protected!! Especially in Bible belt, Mormon, and other religious areas!
@msmittens5833
@msmittens5833 6 месяцев назад
The part where Ruby tells R to tell his demon “I will fight him until the day YOU die” is absolutely chilling. They fully intended to kill this kids in AZ. The kids have been irreparably harmed. I just hope they can be adopted by a super loving family to cherish them. All of the kids need new families far away from Utah. Kevin better not get custody either after everything we’ve found out about.
@candyorange266
@candyorange266 6 месяцев назад
I noticed that too. Who says “I will do x till the day YOU die.” Terrifying. Crazy.
@psychicrenegade
@psychicrenegade 6 месяцев назад
YES!!! That's the first (unredacted) part where she mentions one of those kids dying!!!
@rachelversteeg8351
@rachelversteeg8351 6 месяцев назад
I disagree. With everything they’ve been through, ripping them away from everyone and everything that they know and are familiar with would traumatize them further. Hopefully there is a family member who they know and trust that can help them through this
@sarahelizabeth8585
@sarahelizabeth8585 6 месяцев назад
I truly don’t get why Kevin got away with no sort of consequences. He was fully aware of what she was doing prior to him leaving and the fact he never followed up to make sure they’re ok is baffling.
@dannigirlluv
@dannigirlluv 26 дней назад
I thought the oldest kids lived with the dad and are happy there? What did we find out about the dad that I missed?
@mountainman4859
@mountainman4859 6 месяцев назад
She complained in that journal that R pooped his pants and said it was diarrhea. Yet she withheld water from him. Dehydration is the biggest cause of diarrhea. So she caused him to have the diarrhea - then blamed him for it and identified the occurrence as proof he had a demon. He had a demon alright. And it’s name was Ruby. I agree with you she is a psychopath. But she also suffers from a terminal case of stupidity.
@susanforget8133
@susanforget8133 5 месяцев назад
Big time YES
@deirdrecorey3876
@deirdrecorey3876 6 месяцев назад
These children fought to LIVE . That boy was so brave to break out & get help. Even the little girl told her mom that she was awful. When she said that OTHER adults couldn't see the demons in her children, that was her way of saying I DON'T CARE WHO SAYS I'M WRONG...
@kelliintexas3575
@kelliintexas3575 6 месяцев назад
He KNEW he was Going to Die in Arizona. Kevin & Ruby talked about Chad not having a bed when he was 12 and sleeping 7 months on a bean bag. They made a video JODI was the professional who told them to do it. Then JODI is the person who told them to send Chad to the Arizona dessert 12week therapy in the desert. THINK WHAT HE WENT THROUGH. Then Jodi wanted to get Ruby and they open THEIR OWN CAMP and would have unlimited access to ANY LDS CHILD. All of this is EVERYTHING Jodi did to her Niece in the early 2000's. If you watch Mormon stories podcast interview her they did EVERY SINGLE BIT OF THIS. Jodi has been doing this since the late 90's!!!! The hair cutting, tape over mouth, sleeping outside, no clothes. KEVIN KNEW RUBY WAS DOCUMENTING ALL THIS. This is recommended by the church "to show where God works in your life". The REAL DETAILED VERSION is still missing. He thought his daughter Sheri took them. That's why he wanted to press charges. I bet 100000000% he knew every bit of what was going on. He didn't contact his kids because they were away being retrained EXACTLY LIKE CHAD WAS IN THE DESERT. Why Arizona? Why Lori Vallow in Arizona? BECAUSE THIS IS ALL BASED ON LDS CORE VALUES. They believe Mormons are God's chosen people and that Utah/Arizona is the REAL Israel.its insanity.
@deirdrerosesharples7453
@deirdrerosesharples7453 6 месяцев назад
What's the story about feeding each kid with banana, mouthful each.... very strange
@katiejones5575
@katiejones5575 6 месяцев назад
The wild part is that he wasn’t trying to escape, he was trying to get the neighbors to take him to jail because they were threatened that was the next step in atoning for his “sins”. That’s why he said it’s a “personal matter” and he needed 2 favors. He wanted to go ahead and atone for his “evil”
@asmilywendy0611
@asmilywendy0611 6 месяцев назад
I keep thinking about the call between Ruby and her sister, and how the sister asked "is this triggering me asking you about the day you got arrested?" Like shut the f*** up man, what about the triggers that the kids are going to have for the rest of their life?
@Pepperfam
@Pepperfam 6 месяцев назад
Right she won’t be triggered thinking of shaving her daughters head she’s going to think of those things and enjoy it. Sadistic monster!
@catwarrior17
@catwarrior17 6 месяцев назад
right...so gross. They are all making it about themselves when it has nothing to do with them at all. Those kids have no one to advocate for them. I don't understand it. Breaks my heart!
@Gohappygirl
@Gohappygirl 6 месяцев назад
Wait what call did she say that v
@harper_anne2089
@harper_anne2089 6 месяцев назад
@@Gohappygirl It was the jail house phone conversation between Julie and Ruby. Julie was at the first hearing with Ruby's parents. Julie totally rubs me the wrong way. She talks and reminds me of Ruby so much. I don't see any compassion in Julie, for E and R.
@deannajan25
@deannajan25 6 месяцев назад
Her entire family is like this. Everything is about Ruby. How traumatic the noises in prison are. The hardest part of all this is having people believe wrong things about her, etc. No Ruby the hardest part is the horror your children had to go through you sick F..k.
@deedee7733
@deedee7733 6 месяцев назад
I think Ruby and Jodi were a match made in hell, a pair who simply enjoyed torturing those weaker than themselves and used religious fundamentalism to justify this. They make me think of the female guards in concentration camps who tortured Jews in the name of political fundamentalism, Nazism. It's a small minority, but not all women are kind and nurturing.
@Galbereth
@Galbereth 6 месяцев назад
I can barely believe the lengths that dreadful woman went to go torture her own children. My heart bleeds for them. Such cruelty and vileness deserve life in prison. I don't say this lightly, but I hope Ruby Franke NEVER has another joyful moment for the rest of her days.
@afunk8992
@afunk8992 6 месяцев назад
Julie is one of Rubys kids It goes from oldest to youngest Shari, Chad, Abby, Julie, Russell and Eve Julie and Abby were the 2 found at Pam Bodchers home. She picked them up at Rubys request and took them to her home to “hide” them I assume. She had Julie and Abby at her home scrubbing floors and cleaning her house 🤬
@MomJeansReads
@MomJeansReads 6 месяцев назад
I bet you are right. I couldn’t figure out what was up with that Pam lady and her weirdo husband.
@mustwereallydothis
@mustwereallydothis 6 месяцев назад
From my perspective, Pam was simply borrowing two of Ruby's slaves for the afternoon.
@immaseahorse24
@immaseahorse24 6 месяцев назад
She was much more than that though ​@@mustwereallydothis
@mustwereallydothis
@mustwereallydothis 6 месяцев назад
@immaseahorse1348 she was clearly very involved in all of it. She may not have actively harmed the younger kids, but nothing can convince me that she wasn't fully aware of what was going on and completely approved of all of it.
@claudiabuffi178
@claudiabuffi178 6 месяцев назад
I think both Julie the daughter and Julie Ruby's sister were there, because sometimes the text hide the name like it would do with a minor and sometimes not, when it's the sister.
@laraoneal7284
@laraoneal7284 5 месяцев назад
I’m so glad that I see a dad going through all of this. God bless you Sir.
@rachaelharper3778
@rachaelharper3778 6 месяцев назад
Ruby wants her kids to say and act how she wants. Nothing to do with what the kids want/ need. I hope Eve and Russell are getting the best help they can get cus half of their brain hasn’t full grown and developed yet. THEY NEED TO BE KIDS!! Ruby took several year of their childhood 😢😢 she wants them to suffer😥😥 how she did. I think she was abused when she was a kid. I think it would be good to interview the parents of Ruby on how she was treated. She should never go back to the kids. The way she presented herself in the body cam changed my whole perspective on her!’
@LattaTea
@LattaTea 6 месяцев назад
A child is banging their head on the floor screaming out to their mother for help, a call that goes unanswered not because the mother can not hear them but because they are indifferent...this is beyond heartbreaking. No way Jodi made Ruby do this to her kids, this type of abuse comes from deep hatred of society that requires parents to protect and provide for their children, I think this is really Ruby taking revenge on her children for loosing income from their channel. What did she do to the other two children to make them not report the abuse of their younger siblings. Heartbreaking.
@mili-830
@mili-830 6 месяцев назад
The fact that they both get 3 meals a day, get to shower, have clean clothes on their back infuriates me🤬my heart hurts for the innocent babies💔
@andreaduckett4588
@andreaduckett4588 6 месяцев назад
Except Jodi chose not to shower according to Kevin she never bathed and smelled horrible. Nasty 🤮
@Mrs.Brown88
@Mrs.Brown88 5 месяцев назад
I'm having a very hard time with both my 5 year olds. I cry almost everyday. But every day I try to work with them. I play with them. When they are mad, I let them be mad within limits. I don't withhold food. I may withhold junk food but even that they will sneak and I don’t get mad. Both my kids have behavioral issues. Luckily my husband's cousin who lives in the neighborhood has been helping us a lot. No matter how stressed I am I will never keep anything from them. Sometimes they turn our waterhose on. Last summer we racked up a 600 water bill and learned to check it often 😅. Kids will be kids. I know how they can be with behavioral issues/possibly autism but you don’t deny any child of anything.
@maneckineckbeard1749
@maneckineckbeard1749 6 месяцев назад
Many years ago I lived in Utah as a non-Mormon, and have also lived around the western USA...so I can *absolutely* understand why the woman got so intensely angry when she saw a bunch of white people trespassing on a *literal* Indian Burial Ground! But knowing that they're LDS makes it even worse, and living in Utah has likely made that woman at the cemetery extra sensitive to white people coming uninvited into her sovereign nation: see, the for well over a century the LDS Church has had a *very* fraught relationship with Indigenous Americans,to put it *very* mildly! (and Hawaiians too, but that's a whole 'nother story...) In fact, the relationship between the LDS church and native Americans is even more fractious in many ways than with white gentiles, due to the LDS Church's history of blaming "local indians" for the infamous Baker-Fancher wagon train massacre. And to top that off, there's the fact that the Church's *current* scripture still says that native Americans were given dark skin as a punishment from God, and that when all the Indigenous Americans repent and accept LDS white Jesus their skin will become "white and delightsome" once again. So basically, if brown people are really good, then God will reward them by making them white again*. 🙄🤔 Suffice it to say that having lived out west for awhile now, as well as currently living 5 min from a reservation and having known many native Americans, I can absolutely positively state that Indigenous Americans are often *extremely* not fond of LDS folks coming on their land trying to "help them." 😑 * LDS beliefs claim that native Americans are actually ancient Jews (who Joseph Smith apparently thought were "white and delightsome" 🤔) who somehow got to north America in ancient times, and they believe that what most people think of as "Indigenous Americans" are actually just Jewish tribes that had their skin turned dark as a punishment. There's actually an entire field of "Mormon archaeology" which centers around proving that native Americans aren't actually native: they attempt to accomplish this by looking for artifacts from the ancient near east to prove that native Americans are actually middle eastern in origin, as well as searching for artifacts like the infamous golden plates.
@peacebichons
@peacebichons 6 месяцев назад
Former Psychiatric RN here…heard some effed up stories in my clinical days but nothing as horrible as this. The grandiosity of this woman could have been fatal to these kids.
@Cel3ere5
@Cel3ere5 5 месяцев назад
That's the thing that's wild to me. Ive heard my fair share of ego gratification in all sides of the profession but, this journal is unfortunately pretty top tier. It was going to be fatal. People can read the escalation like it was an episode of Criminal Minds.
@julieo4580
@julieo4580 5 месяцев назад
Scary that the dad tries to get custody. He's not competent to be a parent. It's infuriating that the state hid this from the public until giving them a plea deal. The kids deserve better justice than they were given.
@PaintedForrest
@PaintedForrest 6 месяцев назад
I can’t wait until someone in prison with her finds out what she did to her kids.
@lorena-saad
@lorena-saad 5 месяцев назад
I felt so bad through the first 12 minutes that I can no longer watch the video… never heard about this woman before, but I am devastated with the first 12 min alone 😢 poor kids
@ambermcalister8095
@ambermcalister8095 6 месяцев назад
This disgusting woman didn’t mean a word she said in court. She only said those words to try to get out of prison sooner. Makes me sick!!
@mereditharmstrong4630
@mereditharmstrong4630 6 месяцев назад
The children would have 100% died if they had been able to move. Terrifying.
@Kitiarax2000
@Kitiarax2000 3 месяца назад
That little boy is an absolute miracle. I am so thankful for his fiery spirit as they would never have been found without it. 💜💜💜🦄. I truly hope those children get all the help and support they need. It’s going to be a hard road for all of the children going forward. 💜💜 9:11 🇬🇧 Xxxx
@charlotteharden9162
@charlotteharden9162 6 месяцев назад
I wonder if the children were soiling themselves out of fear, or if they would do it so they could get some water while cleaning themselves.
@ameliaearhart666
@ameliaearhart666 6 месяцев назад
Oh my goodness. So when R went to the neighbor and asked to be taken to the nearest police station…was that because he believed he was so bad he deserved all of this, but wanted to go to prison instead, and believed he’d be put in jail? This is SO SAD. No amount of jail time will be enough to make these women stop being a danger to the public. Now they just believe they’re martyrs and everyone is persecuting them.
@shaianne7208
@shaianne7208 6 месяцев назад
I was sobbing watching this the other night hearing her journel. They are both so so evil and I do not trust her Husband. How could he stand by her defending her and not be concerned for his kids and her getting out of prison. She's a psychopath with no remorse.
@rugbug531
@rugbug531 5 месяцев назад
Those kids had no chance to escape, all they had to do is act like they don’t have a devil anymore, but with all the abuse they had put on their bodies I don’t see a way they could, as they would still not have control over their bowels. So Ruby just wanted to kill them. HOW is she not being charged for attempted murder. All the evidence is there.
@cathymc116
@cathymc116 5 месяцев назад
Kids may have suffered incontinence due to being traumatized, over exertion, bound up, or locked away from the bathroom. So cruel.
@dtkells5920
@dtkells5920 6 месяцев назад
I so badly want to read the pen papers! I wish that they would find them and release them! The fact that ruby was so confident in the fact that Jodi was some Mormon prophet or god is crazy! I want to know what Jodi said to her in these trances and visions. They really thought that they were writing a new book to the Bible. It’s wild. I worry that Jodi will gain followers by using herself as a martyr. She’s already saying that she has a story to tell after this is all over, she says that her blessing from the bishop told her this would happen. She said that they thought they were moving all of their stuff to the storage unit in order to move the kids to Arizona, but really it was so that they could come to prison and so she could be a integral part of Christ’s return in these final days, she keeps using words from the Bible to explain her situation. She said that the devil has always tried to come for her, because he knows how important she is.
@ameliaearhart666
@ameliaearhart666 6 месяцев назад
They should not have made a deal. They could have 100% gotten a conviction with zero testimony from the children themselves.
@karnagekarnival5127
@karnagekarnival5127 6 месяцев назад
FACTS
@ofthegirl
@ofthegirl 6 месяцев назад
My arms went numb when I heard the word ‘escalation’ 😢 Those kids got out just in time.
@NoMoreHeroesAnymore1334
@NoMoreHeroesAnymore1334 6 месяцев назад
No one so far IMO truly gets the "volcano pie" thing, so as someone with sad experience in people like this let me translate that part at least as I see it: In front of her starving children, she bought a huge sugary fancy dessert for their other abuser and they had to sit outside or stand around in a restaurant smelling delicious food while she paid for JUST THAT--for their ABUSER, not for them--and then they had to sit in the car with her lecturing them about how saintly she is, probably helplessly smelling it all the way back to their prison. To watch someone else eat it. And I guarantee you she enjoyed every bit of their misery. Don't show it? Defiant. Show it? Manipulative. Anyone who could do that to ANY hungry being is not fixable. I said it and I'm not sorry. And this wasn't just "ANY hungry being" these were HER OWN. CHILDREN.
@mar145gh7
@mar145gh7 6 месяцев назад
I'm feeling sick to my stomach. How could a human being do this to anybody!? Let alone their own children? 😭
@bloodbunny4321
@bloodbunny4321 6 месяцев назад
All she fed her child was lentils and water and she doesn't understand why he is having accidents?! It's going right through him! She's absolutely vile.
@deannascott6830
@deannascott6830 5 месяцев назад
I think that the julie being referred to is one of the middle girls of ruby and kevin
@a.jameel9972
@a.jameel9972 6 месяцев назад
are those the journals that sharrie stole from the house, that her father tried to sue her for taking them ???
@murphyudx
@murphyudx 6 месяцев назад
You hit the nail on the head. The Prosecutor stated that Ruby should serve the minimum of 4 years. WHAT THE HE!!. Because she "repented" at her sentencing??? Has he read the journals??? ❓️❓️ They both deserve life!!!😢😢😢💔💔
@abbebladon
@abbebladon 6 месяцев назад
J is Julie, Ruby’s other daughter. She has Abby too. I think this journal switches between Ruby & Jodi writing. I lost my hair when I had cancer and i felt like I lost my identity. This, I suspect, is why Ruby did it to little Eve. I am so so sad for these kids. And for her other daughters witnessing what they did to Russell & Eve. These women are PURE EVIL
@sharonfriedlund983
@sharonfriedlund983 6 месяцев назад
Believe me, I hear you!!! I wanna say a lot but I'm sure they would ban my comments! They need to serve the maximum,!
@chelsyebrooks1047
@chelsyebrooks1047 6 месяцев назад
39:17 Jodi and Julie are mentioned separately here. Confirmed. Julie was in Ivans and helped search for R.
@wednesday9623
@wednesday9623 6 месяцев назад
This is so similar to the Lori Daybell case the only exception is that Ruby is 'Lori', Jodi is 'Chad' and thank god those two children didnt end up like the two poor daybell children. The rest is a mirror to the story, the mormon religion, a somewhat famous mormon fanatic who rights book about her whacked version of religion, the torture of exactly two children because of "demons". The Daybells managed to go under the radar for alot longer and cause actual death to not only the two children but both ex spouses and possibly many more. I fear if this hadn't been caught when it had, it would of ended up the same way. Its exactly like reading something Lori would say, she even looks like her now I'm thinking of it. Truly horrifying case and to think this is going on behind a family that were supposed to be 'influencers'. Kevin and bonnie and the rest should be ashamed of themself they didnt intervene, kevin is alot more complicit than he lets on.
@secretaryandactress
@secretaryandactress 2 месяца назад
Page 11 the part in quotes "I can't in good conscience..." and "these are God's children" etc. was Ruby quoting Jodi after it was disclosed that Jodi was buying open land. Jodi convinced Ruby that she was doing all of that for the benefit of the children when we all know this was for the benefit of herself so that she could play out her anger issues by torturing the children. She convinced Ruby that this was the right way to save the children. Jodi likes having power and dominance over defenseless people in the form of classes that ruin families and starving and torturing defenseless children. Jodi was also behind Ruby stealing the children's money and trying to get her to ask Kevin to sign over their house. And Ruby was willing to do it too! Buying land, stealing money, and trying to get Ruby to sign over 8 Passengers was all for the benefit of Jodi. Jodi is a sociopath to say the least.
@KarenPeck54
@KarenPeck54 6 месяцев назад
This crazy mother accepted gifts of all kinds. In then stopped. She's the one who taught the children to be that way. They didn't know any different. Ruby is insane.
@deadahead7996
@deadahead7996 6 месяцев назад
Um???? To be what way? They're 10 and 8 at the time, normal kids.
@jobethk588
@jobethk588 6 месяцев назад
Those children were in a no win situation and they knew it.
@kellyholcomb199
@kellyholcomb199 6 месяцев назад
I'm so glad they got caught before the moves out to that property..They would have killed them within a few days. R pooping his pants after days of not eating and then giving him beans and lentils..??? She's psycho!
@lindylessard5804
@lindylessard5804 5 месяцев назад
When I saw the first video, I actually vomited. I have never seen children treated in such a manner. Sickening!,
@pagespurls
@pagespurls 6 месяцев назад
this is attempted murder. the fact that neither is facing life in prison is a JOKE.
@thatlaserlady3899
@thatlaserlady3899 6 месяцев назад
That's Utah for ya! I was actually surprised they weren't let out on bond.
@lunasssvlogs
@lunasssvlogs 6 месяцев назад
THIS !!!
@DianaLynnZz
@DianaLynnZz 6 месяцев назад
While I 100% agree with you that they deserve life in prison, I’m guessing the prosecution didn’t go for attempted murder because they couldn’t prove mens rea (criminal intent) to actually unalive the children. As messed up and evil as these women are, in their twisted/disgusting minds, they were trying to “save” the children and not unalive them (even though any sane person would know that would be the obvious outcome) It really sucks when morality and legality aren’t aligned 😞
@pagespurls
@pagespurls 6 месяцев назад
@@DianaLynnZz yeah, i have a JD and that has crossed my mind. but like, the parts where she says "i will fight until the day that YOU die" (not a typical parent's promise which would be "until the day I die") or whatever - i guess she could have been talking about the "demon" or whatever, but to me, it is just too ambiguous. but yeah, you're probably right. they probably figure better to for sure get them on the abuse charges than go to trial where there's a chance the jury doesn't buy it and they go free.
@pagespurls
@pagespurls 6 месяцев назад
@@DianaLynnZz I guess that Shanda situation was slightly different because there wasn't that religious "i'm saving him" element.
@caseyh8386
@caseyh8386 6 месяцев назад
She says so many times these children are weak minded. These are the strongest kids I've ever heard of. I don't know how they even begin to heal from this but I hope they have all the help and love they need
@daylightbright7675
@daylightbright7675 5 месяцев назад
Even through the worst of it they were fighting back. E even called her mother abusive and made it clear that she knew damn well that this wasn't okay or her fault. And R kept running away until he got them help. Such strong fucking kids. I can't even imagine what this has done to them
@dianamahan9417
@dianamahan9417 5 месяцев назад
Ruby pushed them to be independent by packing their own lunches and getting up and ready for school! They are doing what they were raised to be
@keleesi128
@keleesi128 6 месяцев назад
The more that we find out, the more angry I get that these kids did not get justice. Ruby and Jodi should be in jail for life, no parole. Monsters to the highest degree.
@bking712
@bking712 6 месяцев назад
Utah laws are so disgusting even though their max is 60 yrs because of some stupid Utah Law they won't serve more than 30 yrs no matter what
@moraimagchavez2139
@moraimagchavez2139 6 месяцев назад
Me too
@janetjenkins2674
@janetjenkins2674 6 месяцев назад
Don't forget her husband
@blanketyblankblankety
@blanketyblankblankety 6 месяцев назад
Good God who do we need to write to, to plead for her to be away for life?! I look at my own children and my heart aches! How could a “ mother” do this to her children?! This is just heart wrenching. 😢
@Ausgar-yc1yl
@Ausgar-yc1yl 6 месяцев назад
They were not sentenced to jail and there is NO such thing as being sentenced to jail for life. The longest anyone can be sentenced to jail for is one year. This was a case by the state not the county.
@danielleconstantine3210
@danielleconstantine3210 6 месяцев назад
She doesn't realize that this journal not only incriminates her, but makes her kids even more of heroes because she outlines how badass they were for standing up to her on several occassions. Like R was a complete badass the whole time. "I'd rather have a glass of water than you as my mother" good boy.
@maneckineckbeard1749
@maneckineckbeard1749 6 месяцев назад
I thought the exact same thing!! Those kids were SO strong and refused to be broken, even under unimaginably horrific conditions!
@AVSgirl1985
@AVSgirl1985 6 месяцев назад
YES!!! I was rooting for him and E, hearing them say things like this.
@patriciagazey4693
@patriciagazey4693 6 месяцев назад
Yes
@immaseahorse24
@immaseahorse24 6 месяцев назад
Incredibly brave children.
@eileenkillen1481
@eileenkillen1481 6 месяцев назад
Russell is a hero, may God bless him with a joy filled life, starting with adults telling him he won, he beat evil and won❤🙏
@rhondaloveloveloves9551
@rhondaloveloveloves9551 6 месяцев назад
It blows my mind that Ruby never recognizes that her son might be soiling himself as a direct response to trauma (conscious or unconscious), stress, physical abuse, CSA etc. Instead of looking what could be the root cause she only considers defiance. I pray for these children, their healing and that they never see her again.
@flowerjpotter1629
@flowerjpotter1629 5 месяцев назад
There were stacks of diapers filmed in that desert fortress, I think they were used because the children were unable to go to the bathroom as they were forced to stand for hours in one place and tied up. Plus secondly as detailed in the journal used to see how much fluid the children had managed to find. It's beyond cruel. Just sickening. Ruby thinks she's superior and a religious hero, no matter what she pretends in order to get out of prison early.
@sleepykitty1745
@sleepykitty1745 5 месяцев назад
All what was said above and sometimes kids who are abused or neglected use it as a form of having or showing control. Smearing it or releasing it at certain points, because at the end of the day the one thing that can be in your control (I mean, sometimes it just isn't with traumatized people) are your bodily functions.
@rhondaloveloveloves9551
@rhondaloveloveloves9551 5 месяцев назад
@@sleepykitty1745 I agree with you. It is very upsetting that someone would willfully traumatize a helpless child. All the adults in those kids lives failed them.
@rhondaloveloveloves9551
@rhondaloveloveloves9551 5 месяцев назад
@@flowerjpotter1629 Those women are evil IMO. The children's Dad and the extended family also must shoulder some of the blame for not stepping in. I'm horrified and disgusted every time I think about this case. I didn't watch their YT channel and I'm shocked that the authorities didn't step in much earlier.
@RoHa2525
@RoHa2525 5 месяцев назад
She is crazy. Mentally ill. She can’t rationalize like that.
@solitairesmith3553
@solitairesmith3553 6 месяцев назад
I still can't get over how Ruby got her hair done before she went in front of the judge. This AFTER SHEVSHAVED HER DAUGHTERS HEAD. I wish they would shave Ruby's head
@NoMoreHeroesAnymore1334
@NoMoreHeroesAnymore1334 6 месяцев назад
Oh how I like you! I KEEP saying this. Boy I hope no ladies who genuinely loved and missed their kids get hold of her and give her a free salon treatment, because that would be JUST....awful.
@daveshoemaker7137
@daveshoemaker7137 6 месяцев назад
Her family was there and apparently her lawyer La Mar and his wife are Mormons and got her hair done for the arraignment! He was very nice to them according to Julie in her phone conversation!
@attitudeproblem6462
@attitudeproblem6462 6 месяцев назад
I wonder how she and Jodi would fair under the same treatment that they doled out to those kids…😒
@agavella_8280
@agavella_8280 6 месяцев назад
I thought the same…
@shirleybleazard8049
@shirleybleazard8049 5 месяцев назад
Sick!
@loveanddreambig
@loveanddreambig 6 месяцев назад
The kids were losing control of their bowels and bladders because their organs were beginning to shut down. They maybe had a week left to live in those conditions. I can’t believe these monsters weren’t charged with torture and attempted murder.
@amarie1463
@amarie1463 6 месяцев назад
So sad 😭
@laura101cookies
@laura101cookies 6 месяцев назад
Is that true? That's horrific
@annieonpaper
@annieonpaper 6 месяцев назад
to be fair ruby has talked about R's bladder issues years ago, she said in a vlog he used pullups overnight. probably trauma but he also seems to be neurodivergent which just makes it worst :( lots of viewers thought he seemed autistic, he also had learning disabilities. ruby also mentioned in a vlog E's teacher told her E might have adhd and she dismissed it as just her being a troublemaker
@annieonpaper
@annieonpaper 6 месяцев назад
ruby just couldn't understand those children have conditions she thought it was pure defiance
@skarletrose1
@skarletrose1 6 месяцев назад
@@annieonpaperBecause they were conditions she was actively causing or worsening, and that was a reality she and her mental pathology were unable to face.
@adrilyst5
@adrilyst5 6 месяцев назад
That kid literally got out in time. He saved himself and his sister from the worse case scenario 😢
@PK-dc4zh
@PK-dc4zh 6 месяцев назад
This is literally the kind of woman who ends up drowning her children and saying they were possessed. Thank God they got out in time.
@mynameiseve.1
@mynameiseve.1 6 месяцев назад
preeeetty sure "god" had nothing to do with them getting out on time!
@deirdrerosesharples7453
@deirdrerosesharples7453 6 месяцев назад
Scary 😳
@NoMoreHeroesAnymore1334
@NoMoreHeroesAnymore1334 6 месяцев назад
This is exactly why we need to end "carve-outs" for "religious belief" in the DSM if the behavior would be called "paranoid schizophrenia" in the absence of the religion. Believe what you like, but you don't get to treat minors like this because of your beliefs and if your beliefs are like this maybe you should not be left alone in charge of them.
@mollypaintscows
@mollypaintscows 6 месяцев назад
She honestly believes that the devil entered R’s body BEFORE he was born on Earth. Mormon’s have some very strange beliefs I can’t explain. Ruby seriously believes she’s been sent by God to defeat the devil. Sick! Crazy sick.
@izzylopez81
@izzylopez81 6 месяцев назад
She's definitely Lori Vallow 2.0
@audreytheausllyologist502
@audreytheausllyologist502 6 месяцев назад
The fact that Ruby describes her two youngest children as being possessed by the devil and evil and all that other shit is fucking ironic considering the only evil one is her.
@Maiju86
@Maiju86 6 месяцев назад
Not the only one, Jodi also... But yes, those were my thoughts too!
@Justme_1221
@Justme_1221 6 месяцев назад
Right, Kevin said when Jodi got “possessed” he would go in and say blessings over her because he was the “resident exorcist”. (Which is completely insane all of its own) But The kids supposidly get “possessed” and they torture them by working in the sun barefoot, without food or water, and poking them with cactuses or whatever it was. Didn’t hear about anyone poking Jodi with cactuses or a cactus poker while she is slaving out in the sun. She seemed to be well fed and perfectly hydrated. All these people were crazy, sadistic, nut jobs who enjoyed torturing those kids. They should never get out of prison and the father should be there with them. The only evil people in this situation was them.
@maryadair5697
@maryadair5697 6 месяцев назад
So much like Daybell. They could have been dead within weeks or even days. OMG
@alk4717
@alk4717 6 месяцев назад
Exactly! The hypocrisy in almost everything she says.. Expecting others not to sin while she simultaneously does all of these things to her children. If god is speaking to you, has he forgot to let you know that all of this abuse is most definitely a sin? She IS the devil and her kids are finally free of the devil now. Ugh I hate her.
@beccawurfel6757
@beccawurfel6757 6 месяцев назад
I know it breaks my heart 😭
@TheBlissfullyDandy
@TheBlissfullyDandy 6 месяцев назад
It's blowing my mind that she WROTE ALL THIS DOWN. She was so cocky and confident that she wouldn't be caught.
@Maiden_to_mother
@Maiden_to_mother 6 месяцев назад
I cannot believe that these journals exist. I’m horrified but also thankful that Ruby was delusional enough to keep a record of her abuse. The fact that this isn’t a story, it’s a real life account of how Ruby abused and tortured her children, is bone chilling. Ruby is the Devil, she is the demon that she claims to have seen in her child’s eyes. She is the pain and the torment that they endured. She is their worst nightmare and she is the reason for all the trauma they will have to work through as they grow. Ruby deserves life in prison. She does not belong in the free world, because this is what she does with freedom.. she makes others (her own children) her prisoner, and that’s unforgivable. “Do you know that I love you?” What an absolute mind f!ck
@nicolewade160
@nicolewade160 6 месяцев назад
She’s a psychopath & deserves to never be let outside again
@primalcritters
@primalcritters 6 месяцев назад
I could not have put it better myself you encapsulated everything perfectly. This woman is horrifying and those poor children I just pray that they will end up okay
@blackalien6873
@blackalien6873 6 месяцев назад
Every Mormon is told to keep journals.
@ShoutItFromTheHousetops
@ShoutItFromTheHousetops 6 месяцев назад
It’s like when the perp revisits the crime scene over and over again. In Ruby’s case as a sadist, she loved the page by page revisiting of the self inflicted trauma on her own children
@Lena-so2lq
@Lena-so2lq 5 месяцев назад
Magical Thinking, is a trait, it doesnt have to be Narcisstic, but it can. My mother is like this ~ no journal. She did feed me. I left early.
@Savvy.Artist
@Savvy.Artist 6 месяцев назад
Ironic she called R "the spawn of satan"...because if he's the spawn....she's Satan 👀🙏
@roxanneazul
@roxanneazul 6 месяцев назад
Always thought the same when she said "demons sit in the shade"...don't believe she was in the sun.....
@maneckineckbeard1749
@maneckineckbeard1749 6 месяцев назад
I caught that, as well LOLOL!
@dianamahan9417
@dianamahan9417 5 месяцев назад
So true
@rcottrell1641
@rcottrell1641 6 месяцев назад
As a grand mother, there’s no way I would go for days without seeing my grand babies, Rubys family claim that they tried to intervene, but I don’t think they tried hard enough. They were ALL too busy making RU-vid videos. 🤬🤬🤬🤬
@sandracisneros862
@sandracisneros862 5 месяцев назад
I would have no issue calling the authorities on my family if I thought something was going on. So this family really didn't care about those kids
@allisonhinnegan6521
@allisonhinnegan6521 5 месяцев назад
The cops couldn't legally go inside after multiple wellness check calls. Ruby was smart about it. Now with body cams, cops can't lie and say, I thought I heard someone ask for help.
@cookiemama4
@cookiemama4 5 месяцев назад
If they tried to intervene, they knew they needed an intervention! Why didn't they call the police?
@literallylondonn
@literallylondonn 3 месяца назад
@@cookiemama4they did. MANY times. they had so so many visits from CPS but they never did anything about it
@cookiemama4
@cookiemama4 3 месяца назад
@@literallylondonn CPS needs to be shut down, and someone else more competent start the business of protecting children! Class action law suit against them is way overdue!
@magita1991
@magita1991 6 месяцев назад
It is a good thing Ruby wrote this. This should be sent to the parole board for when they consider it. They need the max time of 30 years not 4.
@louwinters508
@louwinters508 6 месяцев назад
Exactly.
@harper_anne2089
@harper_anne2089 6 месяцев назад
Yes!
@stacey7720
@stacey7720 6 месяцев назад
100%
@NoThankYou18
@NoThankYou18 6 месяцев назад
The wound depth and cayenne says death sentence for me
@Mizzlenum
@Mizzlenum 6 месяцев назад
I'm sure the parole board will read all of it, and probably the unredacted version.
@alexmuse857
@alexmuse857 6 месяцев назад
A woman who cant bare children will kill her in prison.. putting cayenne pepper and honey on open wounds & wrapping them in duct tape? It took professionals hours to get her out of a closet.. after choosing to throw herself into a cactus.. the amount of brainwash. It makes my skin crawl. The justice system is awful!
@poppylover200
@poppylover200 5 месяцев назад
Sadly, she will be around like minded people. Jails are full of c ab$uers
@lesliesheppard6112
@lesliesheppard6112 6 месяцев назад
The fact that her kids told her to Eff off and had the willpower to fight back in even the smallest ways when she was putting them through literal hell, is a testament to how brave they are. I hope those kids grow up to be healthy, well adjusted adults who never have to speak to or see her ever again if they don’t want to.
@jociir2650
@jociir2650 6 месяцев назад
I think honestly him saying to her he worships the D, was him just wanting it to end for her to just end him so he didn’t have to be tortured anymore. It’s so sad 😢
@NoMoreHeroesAnymore1334
@NoMoreHeroesAnymore1334 6 месяцев назад
THIS. I am so proud of them.
@StandAsYouAre
@StandAsYouAre 6 месяцев назад
For every Ruby that is publicly very visible out there, there are so many more that need to be exposed. This should be a wake up call for everyone.
@lucylu3193
@lucylu3193 6 месяцев назад
RF is a hero. His 12 yr old bravery, to save himself and his sister deserves a medal of honour. I truly thought Ruby had some redeeming qualities.. ABSOLUTELY NOT. This sounds like Jodie only helped her live out her sick fantasies.
@mareelovely
@mareelovely 6 месяцев назад
They couldn't break him. They tried mightily, but something on him still managed to hold on.
@skyegroome223
@skyegroome223 6 месяцев назад
He escaped multiples times, and each time, they caught him, which is why they started tying him up. The fact that he didn't give up, no matter the consequences, makes him incredibly brave. Had he not kept trying, those women absolutely would've ended up killing those children because they were in the process of looking for a property in Arizona to buy that didn't have any neighbors around so that the kids would be completely isolated.
@richerDiLefto
@richerDiLefto 6 месяцев назад
⁠@@mareelovely He was going to be punished whether he obeyed or not. He couldn’t win with those two women, so he might as well have tried getting his freedom. Thank goodness he succeeded.
@jobethk588
@jobethk588 6 месяцев назад
This explains why that little girl sat 4 hours in that closet with little communication. She was terrified.
@immaseahorse24
@immaseahorse24 6 месяцев назад
Yup
@Hollyis
@Hollyis 6 месяцев назад
She probably thought it was another test and was terrified of failing it. Those poor babies 🥺
@oregonshenanigans
@oregonshenanigans 6 месяцев назад
Yes and conditioned not to move per her evil mother
@Mini_EclipseJuly16
@Mini_EclipseJuly16 6 месяцев назад
The crazy this is EVERYONE in that family saw it, knew it & didn’t do a thing for these kids. And the state of Utah failed them. The amount of calls made to their home is crazy that they didn’t find anything wrong. Kevin, Ruby & Jodi should be in jail. And those children do not deserve to be in a family where they weren’t protected in the first place. This is why children should not be on the internet 👏🏼👏🏼
@chrismcree9366
@chrismcree9366 5 месяцев назад
The oldest sister called cps many times. Many people watching the RU-vid show called cps. There was no findings, failure of the system.
@gurutruecrimeguru1405
@gurutruecrimeguru1405 5 месяцев назад
Older sister said Bonnie called CPS too.
@nothanksimgood5544
@nothanksimgood5544 6 месяцев назад
E used to use her hair as a self comfort by twisting it in her fingers and fiddling with it. Thats the distraction that monster was referencing when she shaved her head. Taking away her self soothing
@Catty-i9y
@Catty-i9y 6 месяцев назад
My God 😢
@joanneroberts855
@joanneroberts855 5 месяцев назад
Cant fathom
@YasAdele90
@YasAdele90 5 месяцев назад
Im shook omg 😮
@leslie974
@leslie974 5 месяцев назад
Omg
@JodiSmith-n4n
@JodiSmith-n4n 2 месяца назад
Why are rubys parents staying quiet! That cult is disgusting!!! And why doesn’t Jodi’s kids or ex husband speak up!!!
@darlenewatkins3959
@darlenewatkins3959 6 месяцев назад
I couldn't believe she wasn't charged with attempted murder I thought this also!!
@mercedes_1996
@mercedes_1996 6 месяцев назад
THIS. she held their heads in water?!??!
@Bbyrxz16
@Bbyrxz16 6 месяцев назад
She should be charged life in prison ,the horrible things she had done to those poor babies :(
@amysmiles9751
@amysmiles9751 6 месяцев назад
I know, they have to prove intent. That's maybe the only things her journals help her with, she never said she wanted to K!ll them. Hopefully, she will get more than 4 years.....
@jennk7987
@jennk7987 6 месяцев назад
That’s why they both took a plea deal. The judge never saw those journals… but then again that state is seriously crooked. I wouldn’t be surprised if they are out in 7 years, because the Mormon parole board says they are reformed.
@larsawy9
@larsawy9 6 месяцев назад
I watch a really good lawyer and he said they would have had to prove intent and it wouldn’t have been a slam dunk like the felony abuse charges were… though he could see how a DA could get there, if they wanted to charge her. However it would be up to a jury- and the rules for convicting someone guilty of something aren’t based off of what seems obvious to us on the outside. (I think she 100% would have killed them both if R didn’t escape and save them.) In trials you have to follow the rules of evidence, which are tricky, so they wouldn’t even know everything we do. I bet the previous ‘no lunch, no bed’ stuff would be prejudicial since it’s a prior act and not directly related them being tortured at Jodi’s, and not even allowed in. The jury would have no idea. She could have gotten away with it. But felony child abuse… she got the max charges. If the parole board has any sense and does their jobs, they’ll keep her in there for the max!!
@Hearth123
@Hearth123 6 месяцев назад
My mom is bipolar with episodes of psychosis. She has been psychiatricall hospitalized many times. She always had problems, but it got worse as she got older. There are 6 of us kids, my older siblings had moved out when it got super bad so I was the oldest in the house there's an age gap then I have 3 younger brothers. Let me just say, we were like frogs in a boiling pot, we all made excuses for her delusions and it's much clearer looking back than it was in the thick of it so I do feel for the older sisters who were also in the home. That being said, I do wonder what they even knew or what she was telling them because even with that fog, I physically fought and restrained my mother from hurting my brothers. I was 14 the first time I really realized that something was seriously wrong with her, she cried and apologized and I covered for her, but it never got better. She said very similar things to what Ruby was saying about demons and such. Finally it culminated in her attacking me in the middle of the night thinking I was possessed. Thankfully I was 17 and able to fight back, but I will never forget the empty look in her eyes as she started screeching like Smeagol that I was going to kill her because I had restrained her.
@mariskagoosen5149
@mariskagoosen5149 4 месяца назад
So sorry that you had to deal with this. It's so sad that no one helped you guys and you as the kids had to go through this 😢 I'm glad that you survived. My one sister had a psychotic episode once. It was so scary and overwhelming.. hard to understand how she completely lost touch with reality 😢 I was a grown-up and it completely floored me... I didn't know what to do... at least we could get her to a hospital to get help. I can't even imagine how scary it must be for a kid who has no way out...
@HealingMoonstead1111
@HealingMoonstead1111 6 месяцев назад
Had Ruby Franke gotten charged, convicted, and sentenced in non predominant Mormon state and city, she definitely would’ve been convicted of attempted murder.
@TheJaszyNurse
@TheJaszyNurse 6 месяцев назад
Yep.
@maneckineckbeard1749
@maneckineckbeard1749 6 месяцев назад
I wish I could agree, but unfortunately they probably wouldn't have been: they never actually implied, claimed or wrote that their ultimate plan was to murder the children, and there needs to be premeditation in order to charge with murder or attempted murder.
@akaginny7516
@akaginny7516 6 месяцев назад
@@maneckineckbeard1749 That's not true. 1st degree is what is premeditated. 2nd degree is not
@tourettehero
@tourettehero 6 месяцев назад
What's even sadder is that Russell wasn't looking for help. He was looking to go to jail/prison. He was asking that neighbor to take him to jail just as he attempted to runaway and take himself to jail. That poor boy was lucky enough to wander to a home with people who LOVED a stranger. People who loved a hurt child. They fed the needy and stayed with him. Yes, his actions saved him and Eve. I have no doubt! Running away, for whatever reason, was a brave move. I simply find it terrible what saved his and Eve's lives was thoughts he needed to be in jail.
@janinap4892
@janinap4892 6 месяцев назад
Wow, I didn't think it that way... 😢
@flamelily2086
@flamelily2086 6 месяцев назад
​@@janinap4892The fact that Russell blamed himself and thought he should be taken to prison shows how these evil women had worn him down and brainwashed him into believing he was bad!
@janinap4892
@janinap4892 6 месяцев назад
@@flamelily2086 Yeah, that is really sad and it needs so much manipulation to get somebody, let alone one's own child, to think that. I truly thought he was trying to get help and her mom and Jodi to the police.
@sadiefalco4673
@sadiefalco4673 6 месяцев назад
This is exactly why I am sooooo worried about the children knowing ruby can get out in 3 years. She wasn’t charged with attempted murder, she was charged with abuse and likely could fight for some type of visitation right after she gets out. I don’t think the courts would give it to her but I can see Russel blaming himself and because he blames himself he will be extremely vulnerable for the next few years while he builds a new support system and gets therapy.
@tourettehero
@tourettehero 6 месяцев назад
@@janinap4892 his lack of responses to the EMTs/paramedics shows he wasn't looking to get anyone, other than himself, in trouble. The only question he openly answered was to the lady providing him food and water regarding Eve being in the home. As others have said, the poor kid was horribly manipulated and believed he was filled with and even possibly a demon itself.
@fishiemittens
@fishiemittens 6 месяцев назад
This is sadistic. I've heard stories over the years of women murdering their children to "save them" and speaking of demons, and you can clearly see they were having a psychotic break when they went over the edge. Ruby was cold, calculating, manipulative, and relentless. She knew exactly what tf she was doing, and she enjoyed it. It is pure evil.
@Angaloth19
@Angaloth19 5 месяцев назад
They don’t have to be having a mental break to do these things. They can be narcissists, sadists, and lots of other types. They’d have happily tortured these kids years sooner if the conditions would have allow them to do it secretly. They ramped up the abuse after the dad obeyed their commands for him to leave, so he’s also complicit. He didn’t protect any of them, which is his #1 job in life, no excuses. Narcissists and sadists are always looking for opportunities to abuse, they get the most gratification from hurting others overtly.
@foreverfree5333
@foreverfree5333 6 месяцев назад
They want to say Jody is worse for "putting these ideas into her mind." No. This woman enjoyed torturing her children and all of this is HER torturing them... She was the one who was supposed to have a mothers heart. She is just MENTAL.
@BillyBob-jg1gq
@BillyBob-jg1gq 6 месяцев назад
Agreed. Two cold hearted sociopaths working together. Both equally evil.
@koharkin2555
@koharkin2555 6 месяцев назад
I agree Ruby is in complete denial if she thinks that Jodi was responsible for making her think & act this way! Ruby for years displayed her constant contempt & complete hatred towards her children through her ridiculous RU-vid channel. Listening to her calls from prison highlights this still. It is absolutely spine chilling & beyond belief that these two women aren’t serving life ! The justice system has failed these children 😢words cannot express how much my heart breaks for them.
@rebecca2827
@rebecca2827 6 месяцев назад
They made the children say those things! They couldn’t win. If they said no, the answer should have been yes.
@sophieabcde839
@sophieabcde839 6 месяцев назад
I agree. It bothers me a lot how many people put more blame on jodi than on her
@richerDiLefto
@richerDiLefto 6 месяцев назад
Exactly. Jodi didn’t find some innocent mother and corrupt her against her kids. She found a *kindred spirit* who was just as messed up as she was and they both got together to have field day torturing those kids. One is just as culpable as the other.
@mevv
@mevv 6 месяцев назад
Ruby is a textbook sadist and it's frightening how lenient the prosecutors were.
@eds8972
@eds8972 6 месяцев назад
When Ruby writes about J, she is talking about her daughter Julie. On one of the many audios released, she says that she had left Jodi’s house with Julie early the morning of R’s escape to take Julie to a dentist appointment.
@DonnaLena1
@DonnaLena1 6 месяцев назад
The two middle girls were not persecuted the way the two younger kids were, and Russell was the one who got the brunt of their torture
@jessiet8706
@jessiet8706 6 месяцев назад
Yes, and R thought she was still there. That's why the police ask Jodi if there are 2 kids in the house when they search her home.
@ghostface1889
@ghostface1889 6 месяцев назад
@@DonnaLena1 both e and r were abused not just r downplaying the abuse e went through which is literally the same thing as r by saying r got the brunt of it is gross there are pictures of e’s injuries, she was physically, emotionally, psychologically and mentally abused too again they both got the brunt of it they both were abused in the same way
@amsie_86
@amsie_86 6 месяцев назад
​@@soude85 14
@TinyPigy282
@TinyPigy282 6 месяцев назад
​@@soude8514 i think but I wonder if A (middle daughter 16) also had to witness it
@Elizadk
@Elizadk 6 месяцев назад
She should get the same treatment done to her in prison for life 🤬🤬 my heart is hurting for these poor children 😢
@Justmee90
@Justmee90 6 месяцев назад
Eye for an eye! Start with the shaved head and keep going... she made a full book on what to do!
@Elizadk
@Elizadk 6 месяцев назад
@@Justmee90 absolutely 💯
@tailsstyles2951
@tailsstyles2951 6 месяцев назад
As much as I agree. What she did would he considered, "cruel and unusual punishment." It's absolutely sick they have all of this proof, and they may only serve 4 years (as of now. Unless something changes). The justice system is fucked.
@thetimeinbetween8857
@thetimeinbetween8857 6 месяцев назад
Agree
@jaymin4847
@jaymin4847 6 месяцев назад
The thing is, probably she will. Inmates who hurt children sre the most hated and the N1 on the list to torture in prison by other inmates
@krystinscott7518
@krystinscott7518 6 месяцев назад
I appreciate you saying you believe in God. And saying “notice how there’s no scriptures in any of this” bc seriously!! This stuff is so hard to hear man
@wesbeuning1733
@wesbeuning1733 6 месяцев назад
Whenever she says the children are "manipulative" or "liars" she is referring to the kids actually giving the responses she wanted so she could continue the abuse anyway.
@Stephanie_Elizabeth-t6r
@Stephanie_Elizabeth-t6r 6 месяцев назад
Yup. She wanted this to end in death, I think.
@lisashrestha5023
@lisashrestha5023 5 месяцев назад
So they could never win. Now that’s manipulation.
@kimberlygonzales2508
@kimberlygonzales2508 6 месяцев назад
We know from Jessie, Jodi’s niece, that she could not confess enough. Jodi was always convinced there was more unspeakable sin that needed to be confessed.
@albinosaschoopasquatch4455
@albinosaschoopasquatch4455 6 месяцев назад
At 42:36 when she talks about unhooking R from the bells and whistles, asking him to breathe and putting him in a slumber...i think she really did something to knock him out. She then wrote "IT'S ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE YOUR PATIENT (R) KEELS OVER." She knew she was going to kill him. That part reeeaaally scared me.
@psychicrenegade
@psychicrenegade 6 месяцев назад
After he almost escaped, when he ran away, the first place she went was to "make sure he hadn't gotten" to Main Street...where the police station was! After they had him back at the house and sedated (the milk,) she wrote that "the devil wants me in prison, and my children dead." She knew that if she couldn't break those kids (gets the demons out) she would end up causing their deaths with all of her abuse and torture...and then she'd end up in prison. And apparently, this was all part of "the devil's" plan. 😕🙄
@LeftieLoosie
@LeftieLoosie 6 месяцев назад
The fact they were only charged with child abuse, and were allowed to take a plea deal when THIS is the evidence they had…. Is an absolute miscarriage of Justice. This is torture, holding someone against their will, child abuse can mean so many things this was not just “abuse” I’m literally sick that they got off so light on their charges
@MKUltra42
@MKUltra42 6 месяцев назад
The prosecutor said that even if they’d been charged with 100 counts of 2nd degree felony child abuse (which is the highest level of child abuse 🙄) and they were found guilty of all counts, the max they could serve under Utah law is 30 years. Absolutely DISGUSTING. Utah as a state is a nightmare.
@randomhumanoidblob4506
@randomhumanoidblob4506 6 месяцев назад
Taking it to trial would impose an enormous burden on the children, impede their therapy, hold them in the moment, the terror of testifying against your parent....its horrible, it puts a dreadful burden on them and actively messes with therapy, as well as adding uncertainty. If I were any of those kids I'd not say a word until I knew they were locked up with no chance of acquittal. We can't put that on the kids, it would be the ultimate torture and what would it serve? These vile women lost all the things that matter to them - power, money, status - and authorities always take the kinder route for this very reason; better to lose two years off a potential sentence of those are two years in which the kids are healing and can speak without any legal implications. It's much more cruel of us to demand a trial, altho I really do understand it. I'm just satisfying myself with the thought that they're exposed and within their milieu that is far, far worse than any prison. And that will be a life sentence, hopefully as they're eking out an existence under a bridge somewhere in ten years time...
@LeftieLoosie
@LeftieLoosie 6 месяцев назад
@@randomhumanoidblob4506 but that’s only if the testimony of the kids was needed for a conviction. Ruby wrote down and documented it herself. They would get a conviction without putting any of those kids on the stand.
@LeftieLoosie
@LeftieLoosie 6 месяцев назад
@@MKUltra42 yeah but as of now, they could get out in 4…. Which they should be required to serve every second of those thirty years
@MKUltra42
@MKUltra42 6 месяцев назад
@@LeftieLoosie Oh I one million percent agree. And I hope that every day of those 30 years is filled with the justice they deserve. Their fellow inmates are going to be watching all of these news stories…
@alisasewell
@alisasewell 6 месяцев назад
16:14 that’s hard to believe after hearing her jail call to Kevin, reminding him that adults aren’t going to buy that children can be evil, though she and Kevin know different, and she hopes he doesn’t forget that and how they’ve dealt with the problem in the past. (paraphrasing here). He’s just as involved with that as she was when he was home. Also, listening to his first interview (haven’t heard second yet), he seemed more concerned for his wife than anything. He can’t claim ignorance.
@Bess9779
@Bess9779 6 месяцев назад
I agree with a psychologist online who said it seems she was keeping a journal to use as a book or for teaching other parents. I think every parent/grandparent in this cult should get a serious visit from authorities to check on all kids involved.
@cheryldavidson-guitargirl1
@cheryldavidson-guitargirl1 6 месяцев назад
Agree! There should be an investigation into the Mormon church as a result of this! Much like the scandals that were uncovered by the priests who were molesting young boys in the Catholic Church!
@kelliintexas3575
@kelliintexas3575 6 месяцев назад
This is a MORMON CULT TENNANT. QUOTE "How else can you SEE where God works in your life, or when Satan strikes at your weakest moments" If you listen to Kevin's AUDIO only 2nd interview he says - Ruby was keeping 2 sets. 1 detailed (still missing) & one third person scaled down THAT WILL BECOME SCRIPTURE when Jesus returns for his 140,000 chosen & will be read on Judgement day to others BY JESUS. She & Jodi thought THE SAME THING AS LORI VALLOW. They thought they were FEMALE PROPHETS doing God's work ministering to families and casting out deamons of BYU & LDS parishioners.
@kelliintexas3575
@kelliintexas3575 6 месяцев назад
There is NO Scripture because Ruby 100% is trusting EVERYTHING Jodi is saying. She already abused her kids and now she found someone who gave her the greenlight "from God" to take it up a knotch. This is 100% the same as Lori Daybell. Once you understand the core beliefs of Mormonism its SO CLEAR. They believe God has millions of souls waiting in line and they have unlimited kids to give them chances to fulfill their destiny on Earth. The more kids they have the higher your spot in heaven. The Dad can even earn his own heaven over a different solar system. She was willing to kill her children to allow his soul (Russell the one God sent to her) to go back to heaven, and to force the deamon out. They talked about Chad not having a bed when he was 12 and sleeping 7 months on a bean bag. They made a video JODI was the professional who told them to do it. Then JODI is the person who told them to send Chad to the Arizona dessert 12week therapy in the desert. THINK WHAT HE WENT THROUGH. Then Jodi wanted to get Ruby and they open THEIR OWN CAMP and do this to all their customers kids. They were given the green light by BYU & THE LDS "Prophets". That little boy fled cause he KNEW he was gonna die if not. All of this is EVERYTHING Jodi did to her Niece in the early 2000's. If you watch Mormon stories podcast interview her they did EVERY SINGLE BIT OF THIS. Jodi has been doing this since the late 90's!!!! The hair cutting, tape over mouth, sleeping outside, no clothes. KEVIN KNEW RUBY WAS DOCUMENTING ALL THIS. The REAL DETAILED VERSION is still missing. He thought his daughter Sheri took them. That's why he wanted to press charges. I bet 100000000% he knew every bit of what was going on. He didn't contact his kids because they were away being retrained EXACTLY LIKE CHAD WAS IN THE DESERT. Why Arizona? Why Lori Vallow in Arizona? BECAUSE THIS IS ALL BASED ON LDS CORE VALUES. They believe Mormons are God's chosen people and that Utah/Arizona is the REAL Israel.its insanity.
@KarlaEmmerson
@KarlaEmmerson 6 месяцев назад
What makes my blood boil is she will not even regret it. No matter the suffering and punishment she goes through, in her mind she was right and just and we’re the mad ones. She will be praying for God to forgive us
@nancyjaynes2868
@nancyjaynes2868 6 месяцев назад
In my opinion both she and Jodi believe they are martyrs, and if so , that is going to be a mindset that is going to be extremely hard to change.
@VonPatzy
@VonPatzy 6 месяцев назад
It could also be that E was “wailing” and tantruming for Ruby and not Jodi because some part of E still thought her mommy could hear her or might love her and might see her pain where as she knew Jodi didn’t care. Sadly, she was wrong, but it really could have been the dying embers of Ruby’s own baby who was begging her mom for help through a closed door.
@camrynashley7756
@camrynashley7756 6 месяцев назад
Omg🥺💔
@louwinters508
@louwinters508 6 месяцев назад
Yes that is what I think. She hoped her mother might love her enough to rescue her. She was begging for her life.
@Justme_1221
@Justme_1221 6 месяцев назад
That’s what I thought. She was crying for help from her mother. The person she knew was supposed to be protecting her and her only hope in that situation. She was hoping her mother would help her. That is heartbreaking. I can’t imagine hearing my child call out for help and not ripping down the door to get to them and I can’t even fathom a mom being responsible for it.
@louwinters508
@louwinters508 6 месяцев назад
​@@Justme_1221 one of the reasons why I hope Ruby does the whole 30 years is because I know fine she won't leave her kids alone. Even as adults they will be pressured by that society to forgive her. And there is no way after reading this that I think they should. I know it's up to them but hell no. Hell no.
@MaryThomas-wk3zv
@MaryThomas-wk3zv 6 месяцев назад
You are right! I was thinking the same thing!! 😢
@donnasymoniak5280
@donnasymoniak5280 6 месяцев назад
They should have been put in jail for life. WTH is wrong with our judicial system, it’s as screwed up as our government smh
@tonisangel5024
@tonisangel5024 6 месяцев назад
AMEN!!!!
@LittleRed770
@LittleRed770 6 месяцев назад
The judge, lawyers, and parole board are Mormons All went to BY U This issue is way bigger then everyone thinks
@Nicole-jo6vz
@Nicole-jo6vz 6 месяцев назад
Mormons cover up other Mormons
@MountainPearls
@MountainPearls 6 месяцев назад
I have a feeling that if this were in another state, they would be. I honestly question how much the LDS church was behind their plea deals.
@stacy6994
@stacy6994 6 месяцев назад
What are you guys talking about she get up to 60 years we don't know her time yet. Why make statements that it has to do with the church this and that. If she get 60 years that's her life. But we don't know yet.
@taraann1234
@taraann1234 6 месяцев назад
HOW ARE THESE MONSTERS NOT SPENDING LIFE IN PRISON!? I'm in tears hearing you read this. I feel physically ill
@haleywhitten1947
@haleywhitten1947 6 месяцев назад
Plea deal. Unfortunately they were highly aware that they would’ve gotten life if evidence was shown in court…. However someone said the evidence WILL be presented to the parole board. Which I hope and pray is true
@theaveragefly9335
@theaveragefly9335 6 месяцев назад
Horrific!!! Thank you so much for fighting for these poor children. I watched a RU-vid yesterday where a person talked about Ruby being in prison. She said that many people in prison are victims of parental abuse. Ruby is going to have a hard time as most prisoners are also well aware of what she has done and are triggered. They do see the news and talk to friends and family. Fingers crossed that she gets her head shaved.
@LightInsights
@LightInsights 6 месяцев назад
She'll be fine. She's so manipulative, she will be okay, no one is going to do anything
@TeriHuebert-tq7kf
@TeriHuebert-tq7kf 6 месяцев назад
We can only hope!
@mimiz7937
@mimiz7937 5 месяцев назад
Or mop water
@andreaellerbeee
@andreaellerbeee 6 месяцев назад
Losing control of your bowels and bladder is end stage of dehydration and starvation as your body goes into ketoacidosis then shock then your organs shut down your kidneys fail and you die. I know from personal experience just this past November. I spendt a week in the hospital because i had to be refed very slowly so that my body could adjust to breaking food down again.
@chewyjello1
@chewyjello1 6 месяцев назад
I did wonder if the police giving the girl so much pizza was a bad idea in her state. And that would probably explain why the boy had diarrhea...yet Ruby thought it was evidence that he was "stealing" water. Good lord. :(
@mustwereallydothis
@mustwereallydothis 6 месяцев назад
​@@chewyjello1that concerned me as well. Re-feeding syndrome was a very real possibility.
@stopthemaddness100
@stopthemaddness100 6 месяцев назад
@@mustwereallydothisI understand what you’re saying but, NORMAL people seeing a starving child will give them food. This whole thing is beyond sad 😢.
@mustwereallydothis
@mustwereallydothis 6 месяцев назад
@stopthemaddness100 You're absolutely correct about that. I would have more than likely given them food and water on impulse. How could I not? I have enough medical training and experience to totally know better, but it's unlikely their rescuers had a clue it was something they may need to worry about. I do hope I would have gotten my emotions under control and stopped short of giving her a pizza and a half. It's doubtful I would have been thinking straight if I were involved in that call. Perhaps the fact that they were given semi-healthy actual meals occasionally may have protected them from serious re-feeding syndrome. I don't know enough about it to say one way or another.
@mustwereallydothis
@mustwereallydothis 6 месяцев назад
@@stopthemaddness100 😄 I just now read your screen name. How very appropriate for comments on this video!
@TheSamjane4
@TheSamjane4 6 месяцев назад
J is Julie …her older daughter who is named after her aunt. The mental and emotional torment those two older girls went through is never mentioned. Ruby would have brainwashed them to thinking this was ok or put the fear of God into them so they never told anyone.
@littleblackbird3742
@littleblackbird3742 6 месяцев назад
Yes and A is the name from the other daughter.
@hannaliz24
@hannaliz24 6 месяцев назад
Thissss
@Lolokh37
@Lolokh37 6 месяцев назад
@@littleblackbird3742Abby
@elizabethdks
@elizabethdks 6 месяцев назад
Ironic she refers to them as weak minded brats, but the reality is they are so strong for enduring this torture. This is so sad.
@XEveryoneLovesEmilyX
@XEveryoneLovesEmilyX 6 месяцев назад
And now she is in jail and whining about not being able to have phone calls all the time
@ashleelynn7094
@ashleelynn7094 6 месяцев назад
This wasn’t brought up in court because there was no trial. They pled guilty with stipulated agreements. The prosecutors offered the plea agreements and the defense attorneys, Im sure, looked at the evidence including this journal and told their clients to take the plea agreement because they were screwed. The parole board will get access to all evidence.
@TheSamjane4
@TheSamjane4 6 месяцев назад
Yep after reading her journals they knew they had no chance 😔
@darlingdame_x187x
@darlingdame_x187x 6 месяцев назад
This is probably going to ruffle some feathers, but hands down the reason Jody and Ruby are getting off so easy is because they are white Mormon women. Period. I live in AZ and have spent time working in St. George and the attitude towards people like this are the same in this region. There are Christian cults all over this place and it doesn't matter how abusive they are, they get a free pass within the legal system regardless. It's also important to note that Jody and Ruby were following and preaching the same doctrine that Chad and Lori Daybell were originally following. Look how that turned out for her kids.
@linnjulo
@linnjulo 6 месяцев назад
I can't. I have to stop watching. This brings me nightmares. It is middle of the night right now and i went to my 9 year old and hugged him. R is precious, he is a superhero. I would love to donate for his therapy. I hope so much he finds love in his life. Pure,unconditional love.
@lynnrn8252
@lynnrn8252 6 месяцев назад
The moment that gets me (besides so many other things about this horrible situation) was when I saw the video of this sweet emaciated and bruised little boy, walking up to the doorbell camera of the man who called 911, the way that he asked for help was the most polite and sweet way to ask for help! Just the way he asked this stranger for water and to call the cops, it made me cry.
@mustwereallydothis
@mustwereallydothis 6 месяцев назад
I made the mistake of looking at the photos of that poor child's wounds, scars, and his emaciated little legs and something in me broke. I can't understand how he even managed to walk, let alone doing hard physical labor. The fact that Jody insisted that he had willfully caused those wounds himself just to defy her makes my blood boil. Those photos and this journal have brought me to a level of anger I never thought possible. I've always been excessively compassionate and forgiving and have never felt the desire to see another human being experiencing horrendous pain and suffering... until right now. I can't claim that I would be prepared to actually dish it out to those two women, but let's just say that I wouldn't cross the street to stop other people from doing so.
@NoMoreHeroesAnymore1334
@NoMoreHeroesAnymore1334 6 месяцев назад
His joints are pretty much bigger than the limbs above and below them. And he's so courteous and humble and polite to that man when he rings the bell. Heartbreaking. I hope both those women get EXACTLY as they have given others.
@NoMoreHeroesAnymore1334
@NoMoreHeroesAnymore1334 6 месяцев назад
I'll dish if you hold the camera. Deal? ; ) All proceeds go to the kids and kids who were similarly victimized.
@fortunado66
@fortunado66 6 месяцев назад
I feel the same way.
@NoThankYou18
@NoThankYou18 6 месяцев назад
The cayenne?? Death sentence man.
@brenna533
@brenna533 6 месяцев назад
R was a perfect example of what is meant by "turn the other cheek" in the Bible. To turn the other cheek meant if a Roman solider hits one side, offer the other in defiance/strength. Good for him, strong boy
@truthhurts2879
@truthhurts2879 6 месяцев назад
Actually, Jesus didn't mean to offer the other cheek as a form of defiance, but actually in submission, as violence has no place in His world as it only begets more violence, just as He said if someone were to steal your overcoat, instead of punishing them, offer him the shirt off your back also, and if someone were to steal 30 coins of silver, offer him another 30 more. "Turning the other cheek" and offering it to also be slapped is the polar opposite of defiance, but is in actual fact submission to your oppressor, as to react in a similar manner to the oppressor is quite possibly the easiest way out and path of least resistance. Where as it requires far, far more integrity and moral fortitude to be able resist the temptation of hurting those who hurt you in return and is possibly one of the most difficult things you can do. Just like how I want to hurt the Roman soldiers who mercilessly beat Jesus Christ, where as Jesus wouldn't hear of it even though he knew he would die at their own hands. ❤❤❤
@jonathanyoung8109
@jonathanyoung8109 5 месяцев назад
But god on the other hand was all about that killin’!
@Milkshakethefox
@Milkshakethefox 5 месяцев назад
​@truthhurts2879 that is not what that teaching meant. It was malicious compliance. Make them look bad for attacking the vulnerable. Make them be victims of their own actions for everyone to see.
@ms.chellylumpkins1143
@ms.chellylumpkins1143 5 месяцев назад
Horrible comment. This is a child.
@Cel3ere5
@Cel3ere5 5 месяцев назад
That's a gross comparison. Those people had a choice. He didn't.
@stephanie3087
@stephanie3087 6 месяцев назад
This is sooooo similar to what Jessi went through 14 years ago. Jodi inflicted similar abuse; running up hills in the desert, sleeping on the deck, telling her she’s being manipulative etc etc. Ruby might’ve been inflicting the t*****e physically, but Jodi is the monster behind it all. Also, These kids are soooo smart!! SO resilient!
@jocelyndauvernay8210
@jocelyndauvernay8210 6 месяцев назад
“J” is her teenage daughter Julie. Not her sister Julie. Edit I think people forget there were 4 children there. The 2 teenage girls (who Pam botcher picked up to clean her house) and the 2 youngest. It doesn’t appear the older 2 girls were being as severely abused but they were still living in the house and I’m sure they had some awareness as to what was happening to their siblings
@SharpLife4
@SharpLife4 6 месяцев назад
Yea people don’t see this or forget it
@janinap4892
@janinap4892 6 месяцев назад
I can't understand many things in this case but how only two of the kids would have been so possessed and the others not? Maybe it's the fact they were the two youngest who couldn't do much to defend themselves. 🤷🏼‍♀️ Did they know about each other in the house? I saw somewhere that R said he hadn't seen E in a month (or that is how I remember it) so maybe they kept them separate.
@louwinters508
@louwinters508 6 месяцев назад
​@@janinap4892 A and J. Were 16 and 14. They have always been very obedient and docile children. It's how some survive in a family like that. They are older and know not to question Ruby or do anything that she deems demonic. The reason why they didn't say anything is likely because they were scared, brainwashed. They'd been in this cult since they were 10 and 11 years old.
@janinap4892
@janinap4892 6 месяцев назад
@@Mania26 Well yeah, nothing really. But I meant that the smaller kids are easier targets as the teens could have fought some as they are bigger. That's more psychological to bully the smaller ones.
@jocelyndauvernay8210
@jocelyndauvernay8210 6 месяцев назад
@@Mania26 ya I don’t believe the older 2 were being as severely abused because of the fact they were older and could fight back/had more opportunities to report to others. But they were still being heavily brainwashed psychologically abused by the 2 nut jobs. And were clearly being lent out as child labourers or perhaps more to others in the cult. In the phone call with her husband Ruby sounded shocked and afraid the police were able to find them at Pam’s. she was definitely worried about what they would disclose
@missingmimic
@missingmimic 6 месяцев назад
Kids cant fast, they can't "break their fasts" YOU STARVED THEM 😢
@maryannebrown2385
@maryannebrown2385 6 месяцев назад
Exactly!
@primaveradel78
@primaveradel78 6 месяцев назад
And when grown people "fast", can drink water!
@deannajan25
@deannajan25 6 месяцев назад
@@primaveradel78And it is voluntary. It is your own decision. When someone else makes the decision for you it is starving someone.
@shellym9657
@shellym9657 6 месяцев назад
Seriously
@Ashes_Rose8
@Ashes_Rose8 6 месяцев назад
The only breaking fast children should be doing is EATING BREAKFAST. EVERY DAY. I can't even with this horror.
@MET3279
@MET3279 6 месяцев назад
“They need a cactus to run into” they need love and food and WATER and friends and fun and affection and treats and real good humans to care for them. God this is heavy stuff. I cannot comprehend this.
@Lena-so2lq
@Lena-so2lq 5 месяцев назад
I had a small scrap on my ankle from a little cactus slipping into my sock. Throwing a kid into a cactus is just sick!! Kids cant let their bowels and bladder go when they're terrified.
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