Refuting Atheist Video: Bible Prophecy part 2 

Mike Winger I like your videos keep up the good fight.

Another GREAT JOB MIKE!!! Aron Was meticulously and diligently refuted once again. God is definitely working on your side. He is truly speaking through you and the words written in the Bible. God bless your dedication to showing non-believers the truth. Thank you.

If you're confident that your so-called refutation is legit, why don't you debate Aron himself? On the NonSequitur show, maybe?

@@kenichiotaku3693 a debate with Dr. Bowen would be best.. /watch?v=epsmQOMp2XY

Well done Mike...... well done.

Lol God saved you after the last minute

That brings a tear it my eye! Mike is doing much needed work. I am a long time Christian but Mike gives answers to questions that haven't been answered for me before.

If your God was worth anything then you "falling" into atheism should always be irrelevant as long as you are a good person.

@@WeirdWonderful Nobody's innocent. We're all evil. That's why we need a redeemer

@@@paradisecityX0 Oh bugger off with this crap. The idea that people present their fair and just god pre-damning every single human being to an eternity of endless and inescapable torture and then chosing a handful of people whose only virtue is believing improbable claims of impossible events based on the words of an 2000 year old book is downright reprehensible and any God of the sort that you'd champion would need be opposed for the sake of actual morality because this God of yours would have none. And don't try to come at me with a "we can't judge God" bs. If you claim he tortures billions forever on the flimsiest of excuses then that is an act so reprehensible it is literally impossible for any being to ever commit an act more evil, despicable and worthy of condemnation.

Oh how the tables have turned lol praise the Lord☝️

Same xDD

@@claysindledecker6476 Hi. But these days there's more people going the other way leaving fanatical religious belief systems, rejecting the claims of Jesus walking on water and raising from the dead, etc. 😁 How the tables have turned‼️😬

@@JohnWaaland it’s doesn’t refute the evidence that’s out there. I hope you just ask Jesus if He really is the Son of God. Ask Him and He’ll answer. Research the evidence behind the resurrection

@@claysindledecker6476 We know that evolution happens, we know that the Adam and Eve story HAS to be reinterpreted in order for it to be true and there was NO worldwide flood. For starters.

Really good point and thats what i was thinking

I just listened to that part of Mike's video and had the same thought.

Before hearing this section I thought you were talking about Mike for a second. Obviously IN CONTEXT lol - I second this and gave it a like.

The atheist mind and theist mind are pretty different. Having made the leap, I've spent some time on both sides. THe concept of god lacks any coherence for him so of course he has no intention on changing his mind to adopt what he sees as a useless incoherent world view. ts easy as a doubter to have an unassailable unfaith just as my faith is now, unassailable. We cant unknowingly god once we know, and he cant know god due to the thoroughness of his un-knowing.

The naturalists clearly had their theology wrong, but the evolutionary biologists have found good evidentiary systems to demonstrate the power of the limbic system in defensive executive function. Applied here, when Aron's belief structure is challenged,, his limbic system effectively directs his rational thought. When defending beliefs, it is common to seek confirmatory evidence. As Christians we have accepted the evidence of what is not seen, and God has credited it to us as righteousness. When a highly rational person walks by faith, they allow the Spirit to prevent their gifts from being used to construct a Babylon structure. We all surely will serve.

But it really was superior by far

So agreed!

Amen.

Why would God create him knowing he would go into eternal damnation?

@@ayybeealternative1999 It was his choice, like it is your choice.

@@phoneman729 it was God's choice to create me knowing whether or not I'd burn

@@ayybeealternative1999 it’s not his fault. It’s your choice. You know the deal. Why are you rejecting it?

Are you no longer an atheist? If so, I’d love to hear your testimony. :)

I generally think he's more in the category of impatient; his B.S. tolerance is very low.

I guess he hates his reflection then, Dino.

@@justanothergmailaccount1353 Humans are not B.S., only statements are.

Yeahh...

Like the bible stating the numeric value of a thing to be two different numbers at once. But I forget the infallible and solely true religious text in the universe appearing 2000 plus years after the polytheist stories it draws on were written by the almighty creator of the universe has "scribal errors" because someone who has preordained everything that would ever happen and can sneeze out pretty much the entire universe in a single day can't make people not write actual errors into the copies of that work he is so desperate to have everyone believe and acknowledge as unchangeable fact. Got it.

The only problem with that is that they don't consider the Bible to be a reliable source, or anything from it. Gary Habermas' minimal facts argument for the resurrection is an excellent one, because even unbelieving experts don't refute the argument. Keyboard skeptics probably still will, but it plants a heck of a seed nonetheless.

The Weird and the Wonderful Well, here’s one misrepresentation in your comment, which is the prime theme of this video. Where does the bible say God wrote the bible? You’ve just proven that atheists at large, can only repeat old, recycled, non sensical, straw man arguments that aren’t arguments at all. Consider this: I was an atheist when I was neck deep in pornography. I had every argument against God and would frustrate every Christian I came across with the silly insults and misrepresentations of their world view. Why’d I do that? Because it nullified my conscience. Porn was my idol and I’d rather bow to that addiction than to a God who would condemn me for it. But then I started thinking for myself. With thoughts like “my love for porn creates a huge conflict of interest when it comes to the subject of God.” Of course I didn’t want God to exist. I was like a thief hiding in the shadows. Any exposure to light, I would run from it. Is that a solid foundation for a discussion about truth? It isn’t. You and I both know that you will never accept anything from a Christian world view as long as you’re clutching to a lifestyle you know is under threat by Christianity. That’s not honesty. That’s not truth.

megalopolis2015 they don’t have to believe the Bible as a source. Our job really is o share the Gospel and God does the rest. If people don’t receive it that’s not on us. It’s important that they’ve heard it though

I agree, I have spent countless of hours speaking and responding to atheists objections and when they get an answer instead of admitting they were wrong they move on to the next objection that holds no water. They aren’t looking for truth, they are looking for excuses not to believe The Gospel. I find that hitting them with The Gospel is the only hope for their souls to testify of Its Truth and convict their heart of all unrighteous living. God bless brother and keep spreading that word till the day of His return :)

Nigel theDragon , Aron is like a pig in the stall . He lives for filthy mash .

Spacecoastz 😂😂😂

No, you are just ignorant! Aron Ra's arguments are simply too brilliant for you silly theists to understand!

@@j.athanasius9832 Let me guess, you voted for Trump, right?

Spacecoastz hahahahah this made me laugh cuz I was thinking similar things from the thumb nail

@Andrew howard Andrew howard You're missing the point entirely. And here you are moving the goal post backwards. Someone wrote a scroll with a prophecy hundreds of years before the event, the event came to pass in great detail that many scholars have judged it impossible to have been written earlier than the event. That's a cop out and presupposition and here you're worried about what happened to Abraham?

Where is the proof for god and I mean proof that isn't anecdotal or that is made by other religions and beliefs. Also the bible isn't proof for the bible (which is full of both historical and scientific inaccuracies, not to mention the amount of times god contradicts their own nature). So evidence that can be verified and proven to have no other explanation.

charles townsend I’m not making the argument the Bible proves the Bible. If you had an open mind you would see that in my comment. As it stands historically the Bible is extremely accurate. The city of Jericho has been found exactly how it was described the the Bible, the rulers and characters throughout the old and New Testament have been confirmed with archeological finds, scientifically despite being a book of Gods relation to man and not a scientific discovery book, it is very accurate. Old Testament talks of god hanging the world on nothing when every other religion thought the world sat on top of something be it a turtle, atlas, or a catfish. The Bible talks about the paths in the ocean (ocean currents found by a Christian, by the way, that used the Bible to come to the conclusion the ocean had this feature and finding it with science, a Christian invention) it talks about a circular earth, fountains in the ocean (ocean springs), mountains and valleys in the ocean. It even gives accurate descriptions of how Orion, and pleyetes are going to move either way or toward each other. It gives accurate descriptions of the water cycle. It even describes dinosaur like creatures. Even the Genesis story is accurate in how the earth began. Earth was full of water, dry land formed, plants sprang forth then fish and then land animals. Evolution does not disprove the Bible and structural evolution just further provides evidence for gods creation along with the cabrian explosion which Darwinian evolution can’t explain. One thing I can’t do is give 100 percent proof for gods existence just inference to the best explanation. That’s exactly how science works as well and I press you to proof anything to me 100 percent. If I have an overly skeptical view toward you as you do toward Christianity then I can argue you don’t exist by that flawed logic.

Coz they dont want to know the truth,they just want to sound inteligent it doesnt matter if they lie or manipulate as long they sund and seem to be sure in what they are saying...and thats it,they live and love their sin and they dont want to research or think about it coz if they do they will need to change their ways and become responsible to God.

If they walk away from it , they weren't close enough to it in the first place

I agree 100%.

He’s mad at God for not giving him a neck.

@@Trodpint-A lol...

That is true and I even noticed it when I was an atheist. He was still one of my favorites but idk I found his videos predictable after a while. Foundational Falsehoods of Creationism blew my mind not in its critiques per se but just in the delivery. Aron-ra is a very good rantor.

Are you saved now? 1Cor.15:1-4 (the Gospel of salvation for the church age). We are saved by putting our faith in Jesus' blood atonement, and that alone. I am so glad you didn't go deep into the "atheist" religion. And it IS in fact a religion; otherwise its proponents would not devote so much time to disparaging and trying to disprove Christians.

Lol

And half the population in America

Must be a prophecy

mrwednesdaynight read the comments on Aaron’s Chanel or any other jerk atheist like Matt dillydilly. They influenced A LOT of people. They don’t consider Christianity to have any reasons to believe. True reprobates. Aaron has his fathers face too. The devil 👿

Is this really necessary? Pray for him instead

Aaron is kind of a hard person, I like his content, but I do agree. However prophecy is one of those weird things that can be taken out of context.

RD63 Prophecies are on going even until today. So how do they take out of context real life prophecies? I speak out of experience by the way. I have received some very vivid and specific prophecies that turned out true.

He is an ex-Mormon. Biblical Christianity is very different to Joseph Smiths version of becoming a god of your own universe.

I agree, I'm thankful he takes the time to teach on this. I would never watch a video by that other guy. It's a gift to other apologists.

I don’t think Aron seriously believes that. I think he was just trying to be funny.

Lmao

So much

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Amen

Used to be a Christian, became an atheist for 10 years, but has since come back to the light and love of our Lord

@@majorianus8055i am so happy for you 🩷

larry sergent I fear has already committed the unforgivable sin.

@TheDusk420 what's with the insults? Who is being aggressive here besides you? And why do you say "nobody is going to heaven because *it probably doesnt exist* "?

@@D00dman atheists resort in insults because they are willfully ignorant like the bible says. He has made an objective claim about God but doesn't believe in objective morality. His worldview collapses in on itself when pushed. Some go so far in this life that they can never be saved. Also, typically when someone resorts to insults, they've already lost the argument, based off of that fact alone. There's something huge missing from their lives, and that something is God. As much as we are to try an help them, repeated attempts are fruitless, and God will leave him to his own devices.

That's a statement that is usually used to prove evolution and natural origins of the universe as plausible, thus true. I've heard "given enough time, anything is possible" so many times that I cringe everytime I hear it.

@@davidtrue4255 Pretty much! A simple mathematical look at their thought pattern may explain why the idea of 'infinite time means anything can happen' is attractive: 'Anything above 0 times infinity is infinite. If the probability of something is more than 0, then that above-zero value times infinity is a guarantee.' You can understand the idea, but this fails to account for occurrences that can drop probability to 0. Example: mutually exclusive outcomes. An infinite amount of time by definition cannot make both come true. Here's one counterargument: a 'first' cannot come about differently given infinite time. Ex: Given enough time, the first President of the United States of America will be... Aron Ra. Wait, no. That was George Washington. No matter how much more time passes, Aron Ra will never be the first President of the United States of America. == Here's another: things that happen, given infinite time, will not 'not happen.' Ex: Given enough time, the earth will never have come into existence. ...except it already came into existence, and no amount of time will change that. == Here's yet another example: All candidates for the President of the United States will win the U.S. 2020 election. ...that's not how elections work. :P

@@Derek_Baumgartner Right. The question is how they calculate specific probabilities. For example, the chances of someone naturally coming back from the dead after being dead and buried for three days is probably 0, yet the Bible says that it happened at least twice. Theoretically, everything has an equal probability range between, and including, 0 and 100 until the event does, or does not, happen. The only contingent factor is how external factors influence the event to occur. For example, something can only come from nothing when an external factor brings about something from nothing. Creatio ex Nihilo.

@@davidtrue4255 but if there is nothing how is there something? What made the something (let's call it god). Science never says that something came from nothing, the only thing that says that is religion. Why does there need to be a beginning, to say that there is a beginning is an assumption.

No logically if you have infinite time and infinite space, the likelihood of something improbable happening at least once is likely. So let's say that the likelihood of coming back from the dead is 1 in a trillion, so not great odds but eventually that would happen. If it has a probability, given enough time it will happen. Like that saying about giving monkeys typewriters and making the complete works of Shakespeare.

Well then I guess he wrote the Bible then. Because what you envision as the devil isn't anywhere in the Bible mate, not unless you randomly extrapolate and force words to suddenly secretly mean something else without any statement that it is in fact so in the text itself.

TheApachacha really? So how is the devil envisioned in the bible without me randomly extrapolating and forcing words to suddenly secretly mean something else without any statement that is in fact so in the text itself?

Yes, please provide one example of where we Christians do this with the devil.

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I dont think being born again will really change anyone's perspective. Even people who are born again can still see the problems with the bible.

@@RD-um9dy i dont see any problems within the Bible.

I love that one too, the book of Daniel as a whole is amazing!

Just read this and I appreciate that you said you were a little humble about it. I agree that everyone is a little bias in some way, even skeptics and undecided people can be too. If you see this response, I'd love to see where you stand now seeing as your comment was 2 years ago.

This comment made my day. I had the same type of moment years ago that eventually led me back to Christianity. Whatever your decision was, I hope all is well for you!

Christopher, Are you a Christian now?

@@bryanlovesjesus2204would love to know too!

Give us an update! 🙏

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That’s one horrible thing printed on his shirt 🙁

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John Wallace I have sent the videos to him on Twitter and I’m hoping he will respond.

I hope he does too! Keep us updated.

don't hold your breath. I've never seen him approach any issue of religion with enough deference or charity to ever have a fruitful 2 way or admit he's wrong about something.

@@ravissary79 there is one coming soon but this time it's with the offered help of a PhD in theology with the youtube chanel digital hammurabi. Aaronra is a bit of a mess in theology but Dr Josh is not. It should be interesting.

@@tex959 huh, color me interested.

and with arrogance comes ignorance

ikr, as a Christian I find people like Paulogia much more effective and intellectually honest, and yet Paulogia doesn't even have 100k

It doesn't surprise me. When you understand the psychology of most Atheists, it's clear they're not seeking truth genuinely. They're seeking validation their pre-existing beliefs are the truth instead. So it would make sense that they would want someone who speaks what they want to hear loudly and confidently. Quality and intellectual honesty don't matter... and are actually off putting to them.

The funniest part is any Atheist who reads my above comment will think That's exactly what Christians do What they don't realize is it's pure projection. They're projecting about projection. It's actually them being dogmatic zealots

People love to be told their right. Especially when their not.

He is an example of arrogance mixed with ignorance, I think he really exposed himself when he debated inspiring philosophy.

In the kingdom of God, if there is RU-vid, Mike Winger would have billions of subscribers, Ra will have his channel banned. Lol

Ray won’t be there

@@xceptioncreations8595 billions? Are ya sure that many people will be there?

@Pepper LOL

@Pepper The false god that Egypt worshipped is a demon, so Jesus already blew it out of the water via the cross. As such, I mean Mike's insight into the Truth, and conveyance thereof, blows Aron Ra's nonsensical gibberish out of the water, though Aron's comical persona is amusing.

He literally defended talking donkeys, dude! Of course someone scoffed!

@@jloren4647 ONE talking donkey. Mike addressed that very point in his video. And it becomes apparent why God used this singular occurrence - Balaam was being a fool so God used an occurrence that got his attention. It helps if critics would at least reference the details accurately.

Thank you, needed that confirmation of scripture :)

I second this and would also recommend a public discussion between the two of them.

Orrrrrr, discuss someone who is well equipped to defend Calvinism like James White for example. I see that Mike is discussing Calvinism with another arminian/molinist Leighton Flowers, but not with an actual Reformed Theologian or apologist.

Agreed.

Is this supposed to be the in the last days scoffer thing? Because news flash, it ain't a prophecy if it's always been happening. Name a time in actual recorded history where everyone everywhere took your religion completely seriously.

Wow! I just read it. Terrific reminder. I felt the sword cleaving flesh and spirit.

@@elegantoddity8609 Ha! You see the irony in scoffing at a scripture on scoffers?

@@johnshilling2221 Do you see the irony in scoffing at a comment scoffing at how Bible scoffers should be scoffed at? If someone tells you people will make fun of your ideas and then people do, that is not going to be a new insightful comment. When a flat earther says people will laugh at him and then they do, that does not mean that he has psychic powers. Similarly if a holy book predicts that it will rain we do not take that as an undeniable proof of it's prophetic inspiration "The Bible says there will be scoffers" "That's kinda obvious" "SEE, It's right!" That's what you just did.

@@elegantoddity8609 1900’s 1950’s America was a God fearing nation.

The other way around are the type of Christians who scream in faces that someone is going to hell if they don't believe right. The type who ignore the bible verses of Jesus saying don't judge because then you will be judged how you have judged. I do find it funny though how many atheists go to Christian channels and just repeat the same talking points or demand answers to questions they don't really want answers to

So true.

FACTS it still rings true 3 years later. Same with Matt Dillahunty and other Atheists having a confirmation biased agenda against Christianity and theism to fit their own godless, nihilistic and cynical worldview. I really appreciate his work in Christian Apologetics so thanks and God bless him for uploading this video brother Mike Winger as this channel does great Christ centered and Scripturally accurate content for the furtherance of The Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ 🙏❤️. This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a fellow Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college student. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't. I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict. Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers. Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" and I'm not convinced of macro Evolutionary biology whereas I accept micro Evolution like speciation and adaptation but not macro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word. Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant.

Yes. I just sent it over to him on Twitter. We'll see if he has the time and inclination to respond.

Please give us information if he does. May god bless you ;-)

Lamarck Leland No wonder, it makes sense now. He should be refuting Mormonism first of all before messing with Christ himself. May the Holy Spirit truly minister to him.

Mormonism - where you become a god of your own universe!

@@c.w_ I don’t even see the appeal lol

Lol u made me laugh 😂

Yeah same..

Nebby failed to destroy Tyre. Ezekiel said Nebby would recieve spoil for sacking the city but then a few chapters later admits Nebby recieved no spoil and so shall be given Egypt for plunder. This never happens.

"Mike can you Refute any of Aron Ra's other videos?" ==> When's mikey gonna "refute" ^^^ that ^^^ first? ("Mikey won't [refute] it! Mikey can't refute ANYthing!")

Just A Cover You really are a thoughtless troll. If you are going to attack, bring a legitimate argument.

Just a Cover Use your words to build not to destroy.

If we kept your biblical dress code, you’d be dead for wearing a non-shrink shirt.

Please don’t act like these “prophesies” weren’t written way after they supposedly happened - it’s all confirmation bias - let the non-bias scholars show the carbon-dated evidence

@@joshaustin1 and that has what, exactly, to do with my comment?

@@crtrue6432 maybe he was trying to say that they coulve just revised or fixed on prophecys

@@johnkeep5877 Again.... as with Josh Austin, that has what, exactly, to do wtih my comment?

@@crtrue6432 asshole e.e i didnt say it had anything to do was just trying to get at what maybe he was saying only an idiot thinks that a comment dirrected at them is a response