Clip from season 3 episode 9 save Henry Regina finds out that her adoptive sons mother was found on the day the curse was placed on story Brooke and confronts Mr gold/rumple about it
@@alanzhu2862 He didn´t know about Emma and the curse. It´s made pretty clear later on that he only regained his memories after hearing Emma´s name. Which just happened after she arrived in Storybrooke. So it´s a massive coincidence that he got Regina Henry. Although I guess you can use "prophecy and destiny" as a cheap way to explain that
Beny - It's not a 'cheap' way to explain it. Rumple _did_ set all this in motion, and if he didn't plan every detail, he programmed the autopilot that's making it happen. What's amusing here, though, is that he himself doesn't _consciously_ remember any of that, he has no idea what Madam Mayor is banging on about, the 18 year figure or the hole in her heart or anything else. At least not consciously, but I suspect that somewhere deep down inside Rumple is laughing his ass off.
Regina is Snow's step mother, is Emma's grand stepmother, is Henry's great gran stepmother and his adoptive mother... Evil Queen and Mayor. WOW!!! She's complicated.
I find it hilarious that no one has ever come to Rumple for help with kids. Don't they realize that he was (pretty much) a single dad and did a decent job (for about 14 years) raising him?
The truth is that all of this was the fault of the girl that could read the future (i forgot her name). Because she only told him one part of his future, she told him "in the war you are going to do something that leaves your child without a father" so he is to believe that he's going to do something that gets him killed and Bae is going to be without his fahter. But ONLY because she told him that, he injures himself so he can't go to the war and the makes his wife leaving them (i hated her), him becoming the dark one, him trying to use the darkness to stop the oger war, and finally him falling so much into the darkness that in the end Bae end up without his father
Lol, I don't think she expected him to reply.. I just think she was so frustrated because he was always crying and she's new to all the mother stuff. :)
@@mycrowsoffed There is no uncertainty over what could have happened. Rumplestiltskin already knew that Emma would escape and return to Storybrooke later. Exactly how much he knew about her is questionable. At best he knew that a child would bring her to Storybrooke and cause her to break the curse. As he clearly had no idea about Baelfire/Neal and Emma. The great irony is that Bae should have been long dead by the time even Snow was born.
@@mnomadvfx Eh. When Rumple and Emma find Bae in Manhattan he says that "This land wasn't my first stop after I left home" or something like that. And admits if it had been he'd be a couple centuries old. That doesn't make sense since the whole point of him going to the new land (with Rumple) was that it wouldn't have magic. So there are apparently multiple lands without magic but Bae was still able to jump between them for a century or two before finding Emma.
Imagine this conversation from Mr Gold's side, without knowing everything we knew at this point. He must have been thinking: 'Damn, our mayor is going fucking crazy. What the actual fuck is she ranting about?'
Actually, Rumple did lose his memories. He regains his memories when he meets Emma after receiving his rent from Granny. (Spoilers) He even drinks a forgetting potion in later series because he regained his memories before he was supposed to because of Snow and Charming. .So yeah, Rumple must think Regina is absolutely off her head in this scene.
No, not the part where she goes to the past, I am talking about the part when Snow and Charming open the door portal to reveal Emma as a child. Gold makes himself, Snow and Charming drink a forgetting potion so they forgot about Emma as they had found her 10 years too early.
Nonirikku you’re right! He had to bot have his memories for those 28 years in order to make sure he did not do anything that would cause Emma to not arrive at the right time, and to not have to wait 28 years slowly waiting for the curse to be broken. Rumple did not have his memories. Magic has a way of working things out, he found Henry because he was meant to find Henry for everything to play out for his hero to be created.
Gold didn't have his memory while the curse happened. He only got his memories when Emma came to town and said her name at Granny's. That's why he wanted to know her name so badly.
Pirate man The writers literally said he didn't know anything until he heard Emma's name. You'll find there is a lot of plotholes in this show, but that's the official story.
I love how crazy Regina looks/acts. I mean if Rumple truly doesn't have any memory she must seem really crazy. I love when she tries to get him to finish her sentences and when Rumple doesn't she just gets angrier and looks even more crazy. Let's put it this way if the adoption agency saw her in that moment I don't think Regina would have to worry about giving Henry up as the decision would have been made for her. She would have been in mad house maybe have a room next to Alice.
Lana Parrilla ' s attachment with 'Regina' has a very great idea of who Regina is from Lana ' s view. Such a great actor. She puts so much work but really acts like it's a piece of cake ! Love it
Compared to what the average person has to do from 9-5 every year? Just for a tiny pittance of what she or any other series regular earns in a month..... I'd say it really is a piece of cake. Too many people really do give actors way too much credit. Usually while completely ignoring the rest of the work (ie 99% of it) that goes into filming any given scene. Most of the filming crew aren't paid even a fraction of the actors. Yet they do most of that 99% set up, and the actors just the 1% on top of that. Actor can be paid just to stand around waiting while the film crew are scurrying about like ants putting the set together. The downtime of any member of the crew is at best however long it takes for the actors to do a shot. More likely they will be busy setting up another scene/shot while the actors are working though. Truly - work does not apply here. Even stage actors have to make sure that they can say all their lines in one go on the night. Film/TV actors can just stop and ask for their line if they forget - and they often do.
Can we just appreciate how much of a smol bean Regina is with Henry. She's so adorable! When I see this scene, I see the kind teenage (I think) girl that she was before her mother killed Daniel
But didn't Regina only find out Emma was Snow White's kid when she showed up in season one? I distinctly remember her demanding that Rumple tell her 'who Emma is' and him saying "Oh I think you know *exactly* who she is." Sliiiight contradiction there OUAT writers.
Well that could be debatable. In terms of keeping the town running, she was great. However, Storybrooke was built in a loop that made everyone miserable soooooo
"Henry! Henry. I promise, if you just tell me what you want, I'll do anything for you, anything! Please. Just give me a chance." I'm totally okay guys, I'm fine. It's just-she's just-...she just sounds so heartbroken. And she-...she kept her promise, guys. Whenever he told her what he wanted she found a way to get/do it for him. Even if she didn't like it or it took a while. In the end, she always loves him more than anything else
No, she didn't. When he wanted to be free of the Curse, to be able to have friends and live in a sane town...she couldn't deliver. She kept refusing to make the choice between Henry and the Curse until it was very nearly too late. Emma coming to Storybrooke saved Regina, too.
Wait I thought Rumple/ Mr. Gold didn't have his EF memories until he heard Emma's name. I thought someone from some interview said it was very important for Rumple to know Emma's name before she was born because it was a loophole to get back his memories. 🤔
It's true. Emma even confronts Gold in season 2 when she accused him of being the mastermind of Emma's destiny. That everything she's ever done was to lead up to that moment. But Gold assures her that everything Emma ever did was her own choices. He simply took advantage of what she represents which was being the product of true love. Emma and Neal/Baelfire having Henry was certainly not in Rumple's plans but call it fate or forces beyond ones control is how Henry came about. How Gold tracked Henry down while not having his memories is the only part that seems suspicious. But maybe it was purely coincidental.
Sesshomaru Rumpel was fully aware of who he was even before Emma arrived. That much is obvious in season 1 with all of the "pleases". There is nothing to indicate that he only regained his memory when Emma told him her name, otherwise we would have seen his memory flash.
I wish we could see more of Mr. Gold (Rumple with no memories). Rumple mentions that he's very dangerous without his memories, but we don't get to see much of Gold.
Okay so when I read the title of the video and saw the season/episode info, I was like "Wait what? I thought Regina knew? It took her till season 3 to realize that Emma is Henry's mom?" and then after watching the video, I was like "ohhh yeah... this is just a flashback..."
Wait! Were Cora and Rumple ever together as intimate? If so and my math is correct Regina could be Rumple's child. Which would make Neal and Regina brother and sister and Regina would Henry's aunt. Think of it this way. Rumple knew that he had to "sacrifice" one child so he get the other child back. He knew that if he claimed Regina she would never be Queen and the curse would never be created. So he took a Forget Me potion. That's why he doesn't recognize Regina as child.
They were but Regina is Cora's husband (Henry) or else Rumple would've raised Regina they made a deal that Cora would give him his child instead of her first born for teaching her how to spin the straw to gold. When Cora came back with her heart she explained that she wasn't having Rumples child and that she was going to get married to Henry.
Yeah and that's what were told. As you know this program changes the truth all the time. Not to mention Mr. Gold ALWAYS wins in the end. I have a feeling that everything I predicted will come to pass. Oh sure I might not have eyes in my hands but I will be very shocked if I what I predicted doesn't come to pass.
Well Rumple did say he held Regina in her arms or something like that and he did have Regina's tears, so I'm willing to bet he is her father and he took her away, but then Cora somehow got her back
96ordinarygirl It is not really explained as to why she didn't age. We can only assume that it was due to her being a fairy-tale character because Ingrid says "People don't age here like they do in a world without magic." So by that definition Henry didn't age because he wasn't from the fairy-tale world.
In private? Sure. The Evil Queen is...she's real enough to torture or kill you, but she's also an act Regina projects, the real woman is not nearly that self-confident or self-sufficient. Behind the mask is fear, desperation, loneliness, self-loathing, longing, self-hatred, and misery. Behind the Evil Queen is a human being, though few people other than Snow White realize that.
Lana just like Robert here can project their voices in their characters that’s why Rumple and Regina sound like different people depending on which part of their character timeline they are playing.
Never make a deal with Rumple I know Regina cast this curse but why did Rumple want the curse this way or was the per usual Rumple thing 'always look out for numero umro'
Realistically Regina would have killed Henry, this would have ensured the curse would stay. And it’s not like she’s above killing children as she’s done it before. But I guess then we wouldn’t have a show had she done it.
tapo jun: You betcha she would have killed him. The only reason she didn't is that it was already too late, she had fallen in love with Henry and couldn't bring herself to kill him. Regina was a _monster_ before Henry. Fans often forget that, or try to pretend it isn't so, but it is so. The only reason she didn't murder baby Emma back in the day is that David got her through the portal just in time, nearly sacrificing his life in the process.
Before having a child I thought, Regina resented Harry. Nope, turns out she's actually an amazing other and being frustrated is so normal. And she's a single mom too. Funny how time changes perspectives.
Wasn't Regina surprised in Season 1? I remember a scene where she said something like you planned all of this to Rumple. Or maybe it was someone else 😅
wait. I have a doubt, when Oven comes in town with his dad, storybrooke was just formed, Emma was just a baby. that's the time when hopper told Regina to adopt a child. then how does she come in saying "his mother was found outside of Storybrooke, 18 years ago". is this some mistake form the writers???
You can’t tell me that Regina knew Henry’s mother was the savior because in the first season Henry kept making comments about how Regina couldn’t find out who Emma’s fairytale parents were because then she would know that Emma was the savior.
***** its possible because she is an enchanted character she doesn't age like normal people do. Think about it, Cruella and Ursula didn't age either and they were in the real world too. Plus things didn't shift until Emma broke the curse. I'm assuming the clock meant time and age as well.
Ursula and Cruella ate Lily's egg shell, which gave them anti-aging properties. Henry grew because he is of Land Without Magic origin. The curse has no effect on him. The Snow Queen didn't age because of the scroll. It allowed her to become a part of the curse without losing her memories, especially since she is an EF character. The writers are not at fault. You simply need to pay attention.
@@ChristineTheHippie when Regina realised that Henry is "EMMA"'s biological son, the informant (Sidney), who called Regina, could have said Emma's full name to Regina, and then Regina would mention Emma's name in front of Rumple. That's how it would wake Rumple.
on the first season, when Emma first showed up Regina didn't know that she was the savior, and in the flashback they tell us that she in fact knew that from the time of the adoption. interesting how they connect the storylines of each season
Kim ShadowsChrist actually she did know, but i forgot that she later on drank a forgetting potion that helped her forget what she was mostly worried about which was that his mother was the savior