REMATCH: Tesla Model S Plaid vs Porsche Taycan Turbo GT

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The Porsche Taycan Turbo GT is the newest high performance version of the Taycan and has destroyed the Model S Plaid lap record at the Nürburgring. Mind you, the Taycan GT in this clip is a production car, but it has a very specific racing package and the interior stripped out. So, although it is not completely fair to compare both, it is still a mighty impressive feat from Porsche.
Tesla might be able to do a bit better, because the Plaid lap had a lot of coasting done and at the main Dottinger straight it did not go for the full 200mph top speed, to save the battery from overheating.
So Elon, where is the Plaid+ to take back the lap record?
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@MercedesSLSFan 2 месяца назад

Comparing the taycan to a tesla should be a crime, it is an insult to porsche

@StevenPeeters 2 месяца назад

🤣

@mateokovac2642 3 месяца назад

Tesla barely beat the heavier, way less powerful Taycan WITH the Track Pack couple months ago, so its quite obvious that Porsche would annihilate Tesla again.

@hasangenc2922 3 месяца назад

Lets be honest, these cars arent in the same category anymore, the Porsche is THAT much faster. Only a tad slower than the Rimac, which has twice the power, and they didnt even use attack mode in the Taycan.

@BlissLovePeace Месяц назад

Performance tests in Germany confirm it blows even the fastest McLaren, 1000 kg lighter, out of the water on every track.

@hasangenc2922 Месяц назад

@@BlissLovePeacejust for one lap tho. A 296 Ferrari beats it too.

@BlissLovePeace Месяц назад

@@hasangenc2922 They've driven the Taycan around the Nürburgring and the energy recuperation is light years ahead of the Teslas. And the Taycan Turbo GT can use the powerboost for 10s straight ... with a wait time of 4s between boosts. This is a game changer and it is just the beginning. The newest iteration of the Taycan Turbo GT also has 1200PS

@valerystoichkov7429 Месяц назад

@@BlissLovePeace Porsche still builds the best cars in the world. The interior alone is perfection.

@BlissLovePeace 29 дней назад

@@valerystoichkov7429 they are the best ... they always find solutions to problems that others haven't even on the radar yet ...

@my-911G 3 месяца назад

18 seconds in one round. Head-to-head racing not really. Straight ahead quickly is not a particular challenge Porsche 🇩🇪 💪 18 Sekunden in einer Runde. Kopf an Kopf Rennen nicht wirklich Schnell gerade ausfahren ist keine sonderliche Herausforderung Porsche 🇩🇪 💪

@Kiran-ec1iq 3 месяца назад

Maybe Tesla wins in head to head. Porsche handles much better.

@AP-RSI 3 месяца назад

Der Tesla war dafür speziell konfiguriert und so nicht Straßentauglich! Der Porsche hatte das Weissach Package und sie mussten einen schweren Überrollbügel zusätzlich einbauen (deshalb haben sie versucht an anderen Stellen Gewicht zu sparen). Trotzdem, der Porsch war Straßentauglich!

@d4dstt808 2 месяца назад

Was genau an dem Tesla war nicht Straßentauglich? Das Tesla Standard Trackpack ist genauso voll Straßentauglich wie das Weisach Paket

@d4dstt808 2 месяца назад

P.S. der Porsche ist mit dem Weissachpaket auch alles andere als alltagstauglich. Und der Tesla ist als 5 Sitzer Limousine angetreten während der Porsche sogar auf 2 Sitzer Sportwagen reduziert wurde. Ich bin Porsche Fan und mein absolutes Traumauto ist ein 911 Turbo, aber ich finde es extrem beeindruckend was Tesla für eine Performance in einer Reiselimousine bietet die nicht mal annähernd als Sportwagen konstruiert wurde.

@AP-RSI 2 месяца назад

@@d4dstt808 Oh, armer, kleine Fanboy... heul doch! LOL

@AP-RSI 2 месяца назад

@@d4dstt808 Heul doch!

@d4dstt808 2 месяца назад

@@AP-RSI Tolle Argumentation 🙄

@bavariancarenthusiast2722 3 месяца назад

Wann waren die runs auf der Zeitschiene? Beim Taycan sieht das nach letztem Jahr Sommer aus. Hatten die das so lange in der Schublade? 20 s schneller ist schon gigantisch

@louiecarrigan821 3 месяца назад

Ja, war letzten Sommer. Und die Runde war nichtmal ideal. Da geht noch mehr.

@Euromasterrace5000 3 месяца назад

Ja, war letzten Sommer.

@ltphilipg 3 месяца назад

I’m thinking about the track pack - I assume you still recommend it? I plan on tracking it this summer. How’s the wear on your braking system now that you’ve had it for a while and also tracked with it? Thanks! Subscribed

@StevenPeeters 3 месяца назад

Do NOT take the Plaid on the track without the track pack! I did like 5-6 laps of the Ring and several top speed runs. Brakes are still as new. Installing the track pack rims but with road legal PS4S tires this week.

@ltphilipg 3 месяца назад

@@StevenPeeters cool thanks for the info. I’m getting some custom forged wheels made from Aerolarri (have a set on my MXP too). So once they arrive, I’ll get the new wheels installed on my current PS4s + get the track package installed at the same time. I could put the stickier tires on the 21 stock wheels, but… I gotta see if I’m gonna track it more than just once in a blue moon. Thanks again for the info

@ltphilipg 3 месяца назад

@@StevenPeeters I just really want the vehicle to handle better on normal roads, I need it sportier and tighter. That’s what I really want to accomplish getting the track package - I don’t want to drive in track mode on the streets, so I’m hoping that the programming still applies for plaid mode? I need it to handle better, it’s too fast to be this loose and unsure 🫤

@louiecarrigan821 3 месяца назад

I mean the Plaid barely edged out the Taycan Turbo S which was older, heavier and has 400hp less. So it was clear that the updated Taycan would absolutely destroy the Plaid. It may be a luxury sedan, but its still a Porsche.

@berttroubleyn3475 3 месяца назад

The Plaid is still based on the original Model S from 2012, the Taycan was launched in September 2019. Otherwise: yes. The Model S is a big barge that happens to be quick, the Taycan was developed as a sports car from the ground up.

@StevenPeeters 3 месяца назад

@@berttroubleyn3475 You clearly have not yet driven the Plaid with the track pack. It is a beast on the track and extremely capable. It's a very far cry from a "barge", as you call it

@berttroubleyn3475 3 месяца назад

@@StevenPeeters Let me rephrase that: the Model S was first and foremost built around passenger comfort and safety, whereas the Taycan was developed as a sports car from the ground up. It has a more recent and more purpose-built base to start from. The fact that it took Porsch 4,5 years to catch up with Tesla is a bit embarassing in my eyes. But still quite the feat from the Germans!

@louiecarrigan821 3 месяца назад

@@berttroubleyn3475 it took Porsche not even a year to catch uü to this lap time, which makes the Taycan even more impressive. The lap record of the Plaid track pack was last year in june. Before that, the Taycan turbo S was the record holder. THATS embarassing, that Tesla needed a car that has 400hp more, 200lbs less weight AND a track pack to catch the Taycan.

@Euromasterrace5000 3 месяца назад

@@louiecarrigan821 fact. Teslafans tend to ignore facts 😉

@pieter1804 3 месяца назад

I’m a Porsche fan and convinced that car is more sorted and the better handling car, but saying that Tesla plaid handling is a mess or bad probably never sat in one 😉

@StevenPeeters 3 месяца назад

So true. The Plaid with the track pack is a beast. Handles beautifully. Even Misha was impressed by it.

@Kiran-ec1iq 3 месяца назад

Porsche is an extremely good handling car. But after a certain point you cannot enjoy the acceleration, especially on roads here in UK. It is nice to have a car which accelerates to 100kmphr in around 4 seconds but got gears and sound.

@safakhan3088 3 месяца назад

Its okayish, but a mess compared to a Porsche.

@garosama4517 3 месяца назад

You just never drove a proper performance car around a track.

@tcmcclain8u Месяц назад

What's the steering connection?

@sandroschtolpe6803 3 месяца назад

No substitute.

@garosama4517 3 месяца назад

Foolish to think a high Performance Tesla could hang with a high performance Porsche lol.

@34Realist 2 месяца назад

Der ganz aktuelle Taycan Turbo GT hat jetzt 1200 PS ..... keine Frage mehr !

@martinm3422 Месяц назад

wäre mir neu, ohne Weissach 950 PS und mit knapp über 1000.

@34Realist Месяц назад

@@martinm3422 noch nicht aber bald

@Putersdcat 3 месяца назад

The part where he is no hass at 300kmh 💀

@flippert0 3 месяца назад

It doesn't seem that the Plaid is that much slower in the corners, so where did the Taycan gain so much over the Tesla?

@valerystoichkov7429 3 месяца назад

You better get some glasses bro. Quick.

@realulli 3 месяца назад

Did that Plaid have the track package? Looked kinda slow - I'd have thought it would accelerate better, having noch much more weight and quite a bit more power than the Taycan.

@StevenPeeters 3 месяца назад

Yes, but the guy was coasting quite a bit to preserve the battery

@gerasimospol 3 месяца назад

it is the new taycan turbo gt with weissach package , way less weight than the plaid , same horsepower (1019) , and made only for track cause has 2 bucket seats

@lachlanB323 3 месяца назад

@@gerasimospol It weighs over 5000 pounds compared to 4766 of the plaid.

@gerasimospol 3 месяца назад

@@lachlanB323 my friend this is not the normal taycan turbo gt , it is the weissach pack with weght reduction and 1-2 seats so for sure less than 4700

@lachlanB323 3 месяца назад

@@gerasimospol 157 pounds yeah so yeah it weighs 126 more pounds then a stock 5 seater Tesla.

@lachlanB323 3 месяца назад

Coasting from the plaid. I think the Taycan has a better cooling system which explains why it is better on the track despite being heavier and doing worse in the 1/4 mile.

@StevenPeeters 3 месяца назад

Or they just didn’t care about destroying the battery pack for this record

@1997Banane 3 месяца назад

@@StevenPeeters As if Tesla would care? Whats the point here?

@StevenPeeters 3 месяца назад

@@1997Banane The point is that this is a great feat by Porsche. And Tesla did up the game when the Taycan first came out. They went to the Ring when the Taycan Turbo S set the record to beat it. Tesla does care!

@user-zf1ol7op7y 3 месяца назад

Is this Taycan faster in the 1/4 mile than the Plaid?

@Kiran-ec1iq 3 месяца назад

ha!

@myrinaa22lalala51 2 месяца назад

Europe 😎

@samdominic2391 3 месяца назад

🎉

@francescofernando5756 2 часа назад

Don't compare that shit with the porsche, the porsche is a sport car

@safakhan3088 3 месяца назад

That Porsche is so composed. The Tesla looks sketchy and halfassed as usual in comparsion.

@robertkempe2730 3 месяца назад

I don't understand why the Plaid is not shipped with high spec brakes as standard - it would sell anyway on performance figures. Porsche would never ship a car with anything less since they take pride in their products and heritage - obviously a different mindset.....

@StevenPeeters 3 месяца назад

Because 95% of owners will never need ceramic brakes. They are totally unnecessary for daily driving. This Porsche is not a daily driver but a pure track car

@hasangenc2922 Месяц назад

Because they want you to buy the ceramic brakes seperately. More money

@StevenPeeters Месяц назад

@@hasangenc2922 there is also the matter of availability. These are very expensive to make and take weeks for a set

@ngkougkousis 2 месяца назад

Comparing Tesla Model S Plaid with track pack with Taycan Turbo GT with Weissach is like comparing a VW GTi "edition” with a Renault Megane RS Trophy. They are completely different cars which serve different purposes. Taycan Turbo S would be a more fair comparison to the plaid. Would be curious to see how that would be around the ring.

@StevenPeeters 2 месяца назад

Already did that: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GBAsXIcQLlA.html

@berttroubleyn3475 3 месяца назад

Some here argue the Model S is the better daily car (more room, more comfort) and that it is 2,5 times cheaper. Or that it took Porsche 4,5 years, a 2,5 times higher retail price and the loss of rear seats and all other basic passenger comfort to beat the Plaid, which is all very true. But that doesn't take away from the fact that this is a formidable feat from Porsche. Here's to exciting times ahead!

@StevenPeeters 3 месяца назад

Exactly! Let’s all be happy that this competition exists. It will only benefit all of us in the long run

@user-zf1ol7op7y 3 месяца назад

I agree. Whatever suits your driving style and how you'll use it at least everyone has a choice. I can appreciate the Taycan for what it is but the MS LR suits me better for a daily driver.

@Kiran-ec1iq 3 месяца назад

I own a Tesla. It is not at all comfortable at high speeds. I would like to buy a petrol car with gears which is much slower as my next car. Dont get me wrong. It is super quick. and extremely good in the city.

@BVZTIII 3 месяца назад

Actually most you listed isn't _"very true"_ 😅 1. It didn't even take Porsche *one* year to beat the Plaid, which did the lap to beat the Taycan in 2023. In fact, it took Tesla four years and illegal compound to beat the Taycan. 2. The Taycan beat the Plaid by 18 seconds, and the difference between the Weissach and regular version - according to Lars Kern - is *at most* a second at Laguna Seca. 3. What do you mean by _"comfort"?_ Because the active suspension is ridiculously overpowered in both, sporty and comfy directions. Stripped interior? Still 20 kg heavier than the regular Weissach version because of the cage. Additionally, may I mention that the price isn't only defined by performance? The 2024 Taycan charges *a lot* quicker than any Tesla to date, with over 300 kW above 60%. It also comes with the better light, NVH, ergonomics, quality, service etc. In the end, the current Taycan Turbo GT *without* Weissach package is the most complete EV you can currently buy 🤷

@mateokovac2642 3 месяца назад

@@BVZTIIIfinally someone who isnt blinded by Elons pants and comes up with actual facts.

@sstetsiv 3 месяца назад

There is the question of WHO drive in Porsche and WHO drive in Tesla. The Porsche driver is much faster. Nurburgring is not easy track, and the result Its about driving skills also.

@StevenPeeters 3 месяца назад

Fair point.

@sstetsiv 3 месяца назад

Porsche driver is LARS KERN - one of the fastest drivers on Nurburgring, who win so many times there in races. And at the same time the TESLA Plaid driver is not a driver from TOP10 or TOP30 on Nurburgring race track. Its so big different in driving skills, you can looks from first turns, the difference in piloting style is huge.

@mateokovac2642 3 месяца назад

@@sstetsiv Wont make much difference since the Porsche handles much better anyway.

@martinm3422 Месяц назад

@@sstetsiv The driver of the tesla was Johannes van Overbeek, not a rookie by any means...google him.

@BlissLovePeace Месяц назад

The Porsche blows the Tesla out of the water either way and with the same driver. I have watched performance laps of the Porsche on German channels and it blow EVERYTHING out of the water and on the Nordschleife only 2s slower than a Chiron ... and with the latest iteration of this car with 1200HP that gap should close as well.

@valerystoichkov7429 3 месяца назад

Lol that Teslas handling is such a mess. Its like an overpowered Ford Fusion, looks like one too. The Taycan is a sedan but handles like a sportscar. Tesla could never.

@StevenPeeters 3 месяца назад

The Plaid with the track pack handles beautifully. The Porsche has more downforce with that ugly huge wing. That is what makes a difference in cornering speed. Tesla has plaid with active aero several years ago with a huge active wing that was basically the trunk lit, but did not bring that to market (yet).

@JanH-yy6qc 3 месяца назад

You just never drove a Protche mate .. 18 seconds faster than the plaid says it all .. Tesla is a mess and Porsche just destroyed it . German engineering is just way better than Tesla 😎

@bjornl3677 3 месяца назад

Bro thats just the standard difference between a 240k € Car made for the Track vs a 95k € usual Car. Cant compare These

@valerystoichkov7429 3 месяца назад

@@bjornl3677 Obviously can compare them, they're the same class and have equal power.

@bjornl3677 3 месяца назад

@@valerystoichkov7429 yeah same power. But thats not all. Otherwise it Would be Crazy to Pay Double the amount for the Porsche.

@G82Watts 3 дня назад

The regular tesla model s plaid posted a 7:35 .. the taycan turbo s posted a 7:33 .. porsche beat the plaid when both used street tires . tesla "Track pack" cheated it had to use track tire semi slicks (GoodYear Eagle F1 SuperCar 3Rs) that are only used for track times not for street use to beat the porsche taycan,panamera turbo s, m5cs,m3cs, and some other 4 door sedans that all used STREET TIRES. The tesla plaid has 1,000hp and the other cars i named have 400hp less then the plaid. Yet when they all used street tires those cars beat it. The semi slicks on the track pack plaid alone shaves off 10-15 sec. The track pack then posted a 7:25 Think how embarrassing that is that a car with 1000hp couldn't beat a 400hp less taycan. BMW/Porsche design and handling is on another planet. Elons ego got hurt so he had to use tires that no production car has ever came with. Everything about tesla is a marketing scheme. They even recieved a lawsuit for lying about their range estimates 😂😂 their 0-60 times uses rollout 😂😂

@StevenPeeters 3 дня назад

@@G82Watts all US cars use rollout. It’s a US thing

@electriccarstv 3 месяца назад

Tesla did not use full power because its battery or motors would overheat and that is why there was such a big difference in the time achieved. The Porsche Taycan managed it in one go and improved its cooling to a new level that can cool the car during the entire lap. The first Taycan Turbo S had weak cooling and overheated after about 4 minutes of driving on the Nurburgring

@StevenPeeters 3 месяца назад

We don’t know whether it managed an entire lap. Porsche could have chosen to not care and turn off the limitations just to get this record 🤷‍♂️

@KaypangAsli 3 месяца назад

Porsche do sandbagging, not use attacck mode in the long straight

@ehudk215 3 месяца назад

Good job by Porsche. Now lets see how Tesla responds, after all the plaid dates back to 2021.

@StevenPeeters 3 месяца назад

There hasn’t been a power update or anything else like the active aero they were testing back then

@valerystoichkov7429 3 месяца назад

The Taycan dates back to 2020 and Tesla was able to beat it last june.

@StevenPeeters 3 месяца назад

@@valerystoichkov7429 they came back last June. Could have done it before

@garosama4517 3 месяца назад

@@StevenPeetersSo they could have done it before, but why didnt they do it? Lmao

@valerystoichkov7429 Месяц назад

@@StevenPeeters Lol no, they obviously couldnt beat the Taycan before.

@user-us6ii2ph2q 3 месяца назад

280.000 euros is a lot of money for few seconds. Active aero will help Tesla. Misha and partners, think can make one with drs for you😊. Floor active aero only, no wind.

@nikolalefterov7472 3 месяца назад

I mean, the Porsche is a track version with bucket seats and no rear seats at all. It weighs less and has a bit more power at 1093 hp. However, it costs three times more than the Plaid. In my opinion, not only because I own a Plaid, but the winner here is the Plaid in terms of performance, price, and practicality.

@StevenPeeters 3 месяца назад

Sure, if you factor in practicality, nothing can beat the S. But that is not the point. Elon was bragging about the overall production EV record, so now that has been beaten by the Rimac Nevera and now the Porsche as well. We just need to recognise that what Porsche has done here, is incredible. Let's just be happy that this "race" is going on as it benefits us all in the long run.

@nikolalefterov7472 3 месяца назад

@@StevenPeeters yes I agree but this is also never ending race with the brands its nornal when one release a car after yours to beat you. Lets see how Elon will respond to that :)

@helmutfriedl3482 3 месяца назад

@@nikolalefterov7472 Yes, interesting times, we are living in. 18 sec at the Ring is a lightyear in real world. So MS will not match it anyhow. Maybe this is Elon´s motivation to get the Roadster back on stage again recently. Has nothing to do with business, but is fun to watch the ongoing competition anyhow 🙂.

@nikolalefterov7472 3 месяца назад

@helmutfriedl3482 Of course, 18 seconds is a huge difference. But we are comparing two different classes of cars. The Porsche here is specially crafted for the track, has almost no practicality, and has about three years of newer technology. This is an expected result. Now we need to see the answer from Tesla.

@dexter_1313 3 месяца назад

Yes, agreed, but at the end of the day, Taycan beat the Model S. And a GT3RS, with half the power, whopped both of their butts and could proceed to do so for laps and laps on end. Give credit where it's due. And if we're nitpicking, Tesla's lap was set with a big diffuser, spoiler, on stickier tires (Cup 2 R vs Trofeo RS)@@nikolalefterov7472

@MrGangstashit666 3 месяца назад

I think it is just normal that the Porsche beats a "sedan "tesla. I find it impressive that they try to beat a sedan family car, with a shaped sports car. It just tells how impressive the tesla is, not the Porsche. Now let's take the porsche with the family on ski trip. Oh you can't it is to small. The people who says oh 1000 hp car beaten by 400 Hp car, Let's tell formula 1 drivers to reshape there car into a sedan.

@CLSTRN911 3 месяца назад

Lol the taycan is also a family sedan 🤣 Stop with excuses, the taycan is just a better car

@MrGangstashit666 3 месяца назад

Yes people buy a Porsche because it has a look of a sedan family car haha good one . I would always choose Porsche as second car because it is sports car, and to have some fun. For daily use give me the Tesla model S. Again you can't compare those 2 car. @@CLSTRN911

@valerystoichkov7429 3 месяца назад

@@CLSTRN911its hilarious how much excuses the Teslafans have in their sleeves. They run out of range, but never out of excuses.

@sandroschtolpe6803 3 месяца назад

'Its so impressive that the Tesla is slower! The Porsche may be way faster, but im more impressed with the slower car!'

@garosama4517 3 месяца назад

@@MrGangstashit666Family sedans dont have to look like shit. The Taycan is a great looking car, the Model S....not so much.