This video channel is about the adventures of ROADRUNR, a Tesla Model S Plaid. You will find some interesting information on Tesla related matters, such as AutoPilot regulations in Europe, as well as beautiful road trips across Europe. And I will conduct many tests on AutoPilot software as we grow towards full autonomy.
About me: My name is Steven Peeters and I'm an independent management consultant, passionate about Tesla. I'm based in Belgium, but travel all over Europe on different road trips. Next to work and Tesla I'm also an enthusiastic aikido practitioner since 2001 and travel regularly to the neighbouring countries to accompany my sensei on seminars or to go train with other sensei. And that also gives me the excuse for driving some more with Roadrunr (custom license plate on my car)
The regular tesla model s plaid posted a 7:35 .. the taycan turbo s posted a 7:33 .. porsche beat the plaid when both used street tires . tesla "Track pack" cheated it had to use track tire semi slicks (GoodYear Eagle F1 SuperCar 3Rs) that are only used for track times not for street use to beat the porsche taycan,panamera turbo s, m5cs,m3cs, and some other 4 door sedans that all used STREET TIRES. The tesla plaid has 1,000hp and the other cars i named have 400hp less then the plaid. Yet when they all used street tires those cars beat it. The semi slicks on the track pack plaid alone shaves off 10-15 sec. The track pack then posted a 7:25 Think how embarrassing that is that a car with 1000hp couldn't beat a 400hp less taycan. BMW/Porsche design and handling is on another planet. Elons ego got hurt so he had to use tires that no production car has ever came with. Everything about tesla is a marketing scheme. They even recieved a lawsuit for lying about their range estimates 😂😂 their 0-60 times uses rollout 😂😂
Hello Steven Which FSD (AP) features are currently applicable in Europe (EU)? It's a real shame that bureaucratic-technical requirements are delaying the entire spectrum of FSD functions. Thank you in advance.
@@ivanalbreht6923 they are on the Tesla website. Some cars have summon that doesn’t work. And auto park is currently bring rolled out to hw4 cars without USS. Lane changes work but gave heavy restrictions for years now. Not sure what answer you’re looking for exactly
@@StevenPeeters If I understand correctly, other than speed limit recognition, lane keeping and active cruise control are not in use. Anyway, thanks for the reply.
@@ivanalbreht6923 speed limit, traffic lights, lane keep, lane change, TACC, auto park, summon (for older cars) etc. all work but limited by regulations. Autopark and summon are limited by Tesla software, not by regulations. Perhaps you shoud wathc one of the early videos on AP on what exactly the UNECE regulations mean for Tesla. That should make things clear
I thought that recommended practice is to drive immediately after reaching 100% to avoid damage by leaving the cells at maximum voltage. Waiting 2-3 hours runs contrary to the deep concern of letting the battery sit at 100% for any length of time. Just by doing this recalibration and cell balancing might it not at the same time reduce full capacity distance?
Tesla’s (especially model 3’s) are very aerodynamically unstable at speed. The center of pressure is forward of the weight distribution which is naturally unstable. When optimizing a car for low drag, this is what happens. I will not say how I know this about tesla’s specifically, but i’m a vehicle dynamics engineer in the automotive industry.
I'm in the process of replacing my 2019 Model 3 with a new Model 3 (perhaps the Performance version), and I live in the Netherlands. What would your bet be? Will FSD arrive within the next five years in the EU? My current Model 3 has FSD, which I bought five years ago. Apparently, I lost that bet, and I would hate to spend the money again and lose again in the next five years....
So you expect self driving with you behind the wheel without any of the current restrictions within 5 years? So no more mayor slowdown at a “klaverblad” or auto lane change? Roundabouts? That would be awesome!
@@KoosGoossens I expect that the L2 Supervised FSD is coming to Europe next year or the year after. This is still with you being fully attentive and fully responsible. That is why I will always refer to autonomous cars as “true FSD”. That’s a whole other ball game
Germany will deny Europe FSD to protect its own car industry. They don't care about reducing traffic accidents in Europe. They are cutting benefits for electric cars because they are losing money. Germany has long been a problem for humanity. They should lose their right to vote in the EU.
Germany is among the leaders to push this DCAS regulation. As well as ADS. Germany already has L4 limited regulation. Stop the conspiracy theories. They are just not true
Confirmation of compound movements are allowed. For example you could confirm the complete roundabout movement including the exit before entering the roundabout. Disengagement by too much torque on the steering wheel is just a Tesla issue. Other manufactures have detection by capacitive coupling without this problem. Similarly the car would propose how to navigate an intersection before coming up to it. All you do is confirm the compound movement. It could work just fine. I think Tesla may be a little cry baby here or maybe making excuses. The real problem is probably the test procedures that they have to come up with and then pass.
4:53 I have been reading the document 2024-01/GRVA-18-07r2e.pdf and I disagree with the statement that every manoeuvre has to be driver confirmed. That is nowhere in that document. It is even in your slide right on the screen with the (c) option. Instead different implementations can have different capabilities and one of those capability is the option to have system initiated manoeuvres. Yes including taking turns without confirmation. They do however have the section describing the requirements for this empty (section 5.3.7.2.4 "General requirements for system-initiated manoeuvres"). I interpret this as that they are not yet done specifying the requirements and that you may be right in that such a system could not yet gain approval. But it will come. It is also a bit open ended what a manoeuvre is. I would interpret it as taking actions other than following the straight route. It will still stop at red lights, following the road curves, avoid parked cars and pedestrians and so on. It just wont follow the navigation route or leave the lane to go around an obstruktion. While not following the navigation route seems silly, I am actually ok with getting confirmation before going into the oncoming lane to go around obstructions. The USA version of FSD can sometimes do some crazy things.
There is a clear definition of manoeuvre in the document. And the driver confirmation is mandatory for the current version if DCAS, which is exactly what I’m reporting on. And thecreadon why Tesla won’t bring FSD beta to Europe after all.
@@StevenPeeters There is _no_ mandatory text for confirmation in the text. Give me the section if you believe there is. On the contrary there is text for system initiated manoeuvres and you even put it in the video. "A manoeuvre shall only be initiated if the driver is not detected to be disengaged, and (a) or (b) or (c) is given sufficient notice to react for a system-initiated manoeuvre" This text clearly says that the car can do a system initiated manoeuvre provided it tells the chauffeur about it in advance. Notice there are _zero_ manoeuvres described as requiring driver confirmation or driver initiation. This means they can _all_ be system initiated. We even have text describing the requirements for system initiated manoeuvres, although there appears to be none currently specified: "5.3.7.2.4. General requirements for system-initiated manoeuvres The requirements of this paragraph and its subparagraphs apply to the system capable of performing a system-initiated manoeuvres. 5.3.7.2.4.1. (Reserved)" The definition of manoeuvre in the text is the following: "“Manoeuvre” means a change in the vehicle’s trajectory that leads the vehicle to at least partially leave its original lane or direction of travel whereby possibly leading to interaction with other road users" Which is just what I said.
Thank you for the great video. One question please, after.slow charge to 100%, do we remove the charger from the port and let’s it test for 3hr. Or, we leave the charger in the port and let’s it rest for 3hr? Thank you so much,
They should just make it a downloadable, so EU could load it manually. Then Tesla wouldn't be liable, just like MS isn't liable for piracy. This would force EU, and would provide valuable fsd data.
Well, then tesla could just offer it and leave it up to consumers. People are already doing it in EU by jailbreaking teslas. That'd force governments/EU to react quicker.
Have you got any idea what is in the V3 superchargers nowadays? My vehicle (Maxus EV80) will charge at V1, V2 and some V3 superchargers. I can charge at SC Leusden and Hengelo, but Wolvega, Drachten and Bunnik didn't work. Luckily at Drachten and Bunnik there were also some V2 chargers, so I was able to charge.
@@StevenPeeters Thanks for the quick response. If that would be the case, then it's even stranger. Some V3 work others don't. Of course I only use the SC available to other brands. Otherwise I would be unable to start a session. I thought maybe with the switch to CCS that Tesla made in Europe they started using other brand chargers behind the SC stalls. The new Alpitec HYC-300 that Fastned and Alego install nowadays are giving the exact same problem so I thought maybe I was onto a pattern 🙃
@@StevenPeeters At least that's what it should be. Unfortunately it clearly isn't. Same goes for not all brands being able to charge at V4 SC. I'll keep digging and let you know when I find something.
I think you will enjoy Whole Mars Catalog videos released yesterday 9 May 2024 making crystal clear how embarrassingly limited a highly-rated driving assistance system from a well-known manufacturer is to Tesla, in USA where their hands are not bound by DCAS regulations.
Desperately disappointing turn of events. Perhaps sooner rather than later our regulators will see the light. Thanks as ever, Steven, for your excellent report. We'd be lost without you!
This is not really smart charging, but standard AC charging with simple communication via PWM. Actual smart charging is in ISO 15118, which can also be used over AC. It is a much more sophisticated protocol.
Excellent video and confirms my experiences. I have a 2022 MYLR with fsd capability and have driven all over the UK, Europe and Scandinavia. Sadly as you observe NOAP is far less useful than it was 2 years ago!
Thank you very much for the update and the good news regarding the new draft. Steven as we would say here in Dublin Ireland “you're some man for one man” :) Regards Séamus
Out of curiosity, is there any bemefit to pre-condition the battery when charging at 11kw? I know its typically recommended for DC fast charging and not mentioned for fast AC charging.
Thanks for summarizing all the important parts. Personally, I can’t wait for the day that they remove the steering wheel, the gas panel, and the brakes from the cars. It will reduce the number of accidents enormously. Just imagine that all grandpa’s who really shouldn’t be driving anymore and all young people that think that they can make that corner and all people that are just too tired or to drunk or to high, they can all be driven home safely without accidentally killing someone else. This technology is really the best thing that can happen to humanity. I was just reading up on Airbags, patent in 1968 first experimental fleet in 1973. It took up till the 1990’s before airbags found their way into most cars. Technology is fast Politics are not.
Thanks for the video, I am in doubt about buying a Tesla with auto pilot (FSD) but I live in The Netherlands. For me the auto pilot would be the functionality that would make me buy a Tesla. But if it doesn't give me any improvements over the normal cars 'Mercedes, Volkswagen, Ford' then well.... I do hope that you can do another video when the newer version is released in Europe.
Sure will. And having driven a few other systems (not yet Mercedes L3) I must say that overall Tesla is still better in the sense that it is more smooth. I use my EAP every single day
@@StevenPeeters it’s the EU who decides this, not the UNECE. There are two authorities in the EU for laws, national parliaments and the European Parliament. I have contacted several parties in Sweden and asked for their opinions and I will vote for the party which works the hardest to get FSD legal
@@StevenPeeters also just generally, if you believe it’s some UN bureaucrats fault that we don’t have FSD in Europe you’re widely misinformed in my view. The USA is also a member of the United Nations and it’s the decision of the parliaments in Europe, including national ones, to decide to take them seriously.
@@moocorp4574 ot is you who is misinformed. WP29 is an agreement signed by about 60 countries. US did not sign this agreement, so they are not bound by it. I’ve explained this many times in my regulations videos. I suggest you watch them and learn the proper impact of this
Comparing Tesla Model S Plaid with track pack with Taycan Turbo GT with Weissach is like comparing a VW GTi "edition” with a Renault Megane RS Trophy. They are completely different cars which serve different purposes. Taycan Turbo S would be a more fair comparison to the plaid. Would be curious to see how that would be around the ring.
