Remington Nitro Turkey 3.5" #6 Pattern Test W/ Mossberg 835 Ulti-Mag & Indian Creek .675 Choke 

Remington nitro turkey loads are all in just regular target load style wads, whereas other brands have moved to full length wads more geared towards steel shot or tss loads. All of the shot is inside the wad vs 60% of being outside the wad in these Remingtons. Full length wads are generally thicker, they open slower, and produce far better patterns.

I think that is absolutely the best two Gobblers at once pattern ever.

For this gun and choke combo what would you recommend in a lead load if you can’t find any Winchester longbeards?

The bigger bore on mossberg 835 has must be having a effect on the pattern????,,,,,, Try a mossberg 500 or 535

I’ve killed a dozen or so birds with Remington Nitro #5s - 3 1/2”. 40 yards and in. All shot through a Winchester 1300 with a .660 Carlsons. Never had a bird run off. I’m not trying to sway anyone one way or the other, but just my experience.

I wasn’t really impressed with even the LBXR in my 835/935 at the .675 and more open level chokes. .655 and .665 was better to me.

Anyone I know who has used Remington Nitro loads have learned (these loads suck) the hard way. I can recall countless times where birds have run off that should have dropped dead. The last thing to cheap out on is the round you put in your shotgun. I have never seen a serious turkey hunter stick with these rounds, but they do keep selling them.. If you need to save money, buy a $200 Stevens 301 single shot. Skimp on the gun, but not the turkey load! If you are just starting out, I would suggest the following - Affordable load starts with Winchester Double XX (4, 5, or 6 shot). Spend a little extra for the Winchester Long Beard XR in the same shot sizes if you can. I would put the Hevi-13 rounds at the next level, but they are being phased out (except for the Magnum Blend loads). For years, Hevi-shot offered $10/box rebates for these Hevi-13 rounds during the spring. If you are planning to shoot a 20 gauge or smaller, I would consider TSS turkey loads. Overall, I think the hype of TSS loads is a bit over done. I do, however, believe TSS has made 20 gauges as effective as 12 gauges shooting copper plated lead loads. No one would have considered a .410 for turkeys prior to TSS. In some states, using a .410 wasn't even legal. TSS has changed that! If you want to use more affordable copper plated lead (like the Winchester loads), I wouldn't sell your 12 gauge. If you're just starting out & are willing to pay the price for TSS loads, a 20 gauge is a great choice. My 5 turkey load choices based on what's been shared on this channel & personal experience would be (in order of lowest to best) the Winchester Double XX, Winchester Long Beard XR, Hevi-Shot Hevi-13, Herter's TSS turkey loads, and Apex TSS turkey loads. For their price, Federal, Remington, Browing, and some of the other TSS loads don't impress me. If I am spending that much, I would get the Apex rounds. Some of the other more custom rounds, I don't have enough experience to have an opinion on.

Do you think it is mostly the wad Remington uses that creates that wide of a shot pattern? Will the 'used' wad present any evidence that could be useful in diagnosing shell+choke+shotgun performance issues?

I've used Remington Nitro 3" 6 shot with a 660 constriction Primos Tightwad choke tube out of a Remington 11-87 and have repeatedly success dropping turkeys dead with one shot. Some seasons I go empty handed from not getting a shot. My longest was at 49yds which was my biggest bird at 25 1/2 lbs. I disagree with you Matt completely. It's the best shotshell at its price point.

I’ve never seen a Remington turkey load pattern good. I’ve got some old Remington hevi shot and even it didn’t shoot good. Even Winchester XX shoots much better.

Test all guns with a 100 yards guns i challenge you all the best shotguns with the most yards for goose kills on the air

Dead bird.