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Rings of Power: The Missing Information (Ep4) 

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@erkanyldz7233
@erkanyldz7233 2 года назад
I’m really happy that you’re still doing videos
@LeftJoystick
@LeftJoystick 2 года назад
I saw on some other youtuber’s channel [in a comment] that Arachir was “quitting RU-vid”. Is he just stopping the DaC stuff? I think he’d be peerless if he continued his Lore videos (and videos like this).
@NORTHMAN1234
@NORTHMAN1234 2 года назад
When he does leave, it’d be nice to see him return to cover the next season of RoP. I absolutely love this content
@hamberger7
@hamberger7 2 года назад
@@NORTHMAN1234 he said he was going to quit after the campaigns but at this point I wouldn't be surprised if he stopped after ROP season ended.
@nottheeviltwin2
@nottheeviltwin2 2 года назад
I'm pleased you like them 😊 if engagement is good I'll see how long I can keep him creating 😁
@LeftJoystick
@LeftJoystick 2 года назад
@@nottheeviltwin2 We’ve got his wife on our side! He’s doomed - we cannot lose!! (haha)
@justinvanheerde4338
@justinvanheerde4338 2 года назад
I love this series of yours. I dont get why other RU-vidrs make videos, call them „review and breakdown“ and then take 30min to retell me what happened in that episode 😂 thank you i just watched it… 😂 so your „missing information“ is very refreshing.
@nottheeviltwin2
@nottheeviltwin2 2 года назад
Thanks 😁 I thought the same when I searched for videos to watch about the first episode. I'm pleased you like the series, thanks for the feedback 😊
@belegur8108
@belegur8108 2 года назад
to the Palantiri: Tar-Miriel says 6 of the 7 Palantiri are either lost OR hidden. I assume hidden in the hands of the Faithfull in the west
@thehunter7422
@thehunter7422 2 года назад
11:59 actually Miriel says they've been lost or HIDDEN. Which I think that could interpret later down the line that maybe Tar Palantir hid them maybe in the Hall of Lore or maybe with Elendil himself maybe somewhere in the West. Maybe Elendil himself was the one that hid them. He seems to care about the Elvish artifacts of old and knows alot about em. Since we know they take em to Middle Earth when the downfall happens with the rest of the Faithful, I'd imagine it counted as some of the expensive and also very close artifacts that they Cherish dearly for them to bring em along with them and the seedling of the White tree of Nimloth along with a couple other things in the books , so it makes sense if they do end up making Elendil the one that cares for em the most in the show maybe . I'm just theorizing . I hope they show something like that in the show to know they'll be bringing em or else that would be weird . Think they're just saving the reveal for another episode possibly. Since they are hinting alot with the tree that eventually we should remember the importance of it , definitely hinting on hopefully they do take the sapling and other artifacts. I don't think they'll screw up a timeline like that . At least I hope not lol finger's crossed they're just making it a mystery until another few episodes or maybe next season down the line they reveal the Palantirs have been hidden by someone 🤞🤞
@JuanCanuck
@JuanCanuck 2 года назад
Really liking this series. Props to Galu’s s/o asking good questions and representing us less informed fans
@danielmaher964
@danielmaher964 Год назад
I really like this format, it's very fresh and real. Jess is great at asking questions and it makes learning the lore much more interesting than if it was just a long ramble. Well done. 😁
@redhannibal6331
@redhannibal6331 2 года назад
Here’s my issue with meteor man being Sauron (which I also thought until episode 3) - he pushes a hobbit cart. Hard for me to imagine saying ‘Hey, remember in the 2nd age when Sauron was pushing around a hobbit cart and eating snails?’.
@50ULL355
@50ULL355 2 года назад
This new format is greatly appreciated! Also very happy that this series is continuing
@nottheeviltwin2
@nottheeviltwin2 2 года назад
Oh good 😁 Let us know if there's anything you'd like Galu to speculate on 😊
@nath9091
@nath9091 2 года назад
I thought the orcs were weakened by sunlight during the chase in the Two Towers where they appeared exhausted while the Uruks didn't. So even though they were fairly motivated to get out of Rohirrim lands they still seemed more tired in the presence of it.
@matwatson7947
@matwatson7947 2 года назад
Something worth pointing out was that the Uruk Hai were Orcs plus. The Uruks may not have been weakened but merely reached their physical limit. The Uruk Hai being fitter, larger, more intelligent and well trained may simply count for difference in performance
@TheonlyHostName
@TheonlyHostName 2 года назад
About the rights and Maglor. They have proven by mentioning Armenelos that they can use things from outside the Appendix and so on. It was said somewhere that they can get rights to concepts and stuff if they ask the Estate and pay for it. Btw dont know whether you noticed, but we can see cool things in the tower of the Palantir: The Dragon-helm of Dor-lomin, the doublebladed axe and the double swan shield of Tuor. Loved to see that.
@CptMacTavish-sg7hj
@CptMacTavish-sg7hj 2 года назад
I have to note on the mithril matter, it could be found in three places: Khazad-dûm, Númenor [as per mention in Unfinished Tales, "The Disaster of Gladden Fields" note 31] and possibly Aman [here just guessing as Earendil received mithril-made things from the Valar]
@LeftJoystick
@LeftJoystick 2 года назад
I think the sunlight thing is also a broad stroke, “good vs. evil” message. The Sun [the light] is a leftover of one of the Two Trees of Valinor, so it stands to reason the orcs would hate it.
@BernddasBrotB7
@BernddasBrotB7 2 года назад
Actually, one child is actually unusual for Elves. Two or three is the norm in later days, and two to four at other times. Five or six is uncommon but not absurdly rare, especially in Aman.
@pavelkostal_cz
@pavelkostal_cz 2 года назад
I really like this format of videos you do now. :-) The videos turn very lively and interactive. The women counterpart gives everything a fresh feeling and makes real feeling of the audiance asking. I do like the content a lot {king of the dead really took me} and I hope to see more! 🙂 P.S. appriciate a care from Jessica. It has to get a lot of time to do the hair and stuff and figure out the right questions all of us are wondering about.
@nottheeviltwin2
@nottheeviltwin2 2 года назад
Thank you 😁 I really appreciate your feedback 😊
@NORTHMAN1234
@NORTHMAN1234 2 года назад
On book 4 of Stormlight Archive, excellent series
@rexmundi3108
@rexmundi3108 2 года назад
Rings of Power made Orcs more scarey. They are now white with blue eyes.
@Rachub
@Rachub 2 года назад
I’ve been thinking about this and, honestly, I don’t think we’ve come across Sauron yet. I like the Halbrand King of the Dead theory, although I’m more inclined to think Nazgûl atm; Adar is just a random semi-corrupted and broken elf who won’t be anyone we know in lore; as for meteor man, jury’s out - after Elrond spoke about wanting to meet his father again I’m tempted to think Earendil...
@nottheeviltwin2
@nottheeviltwin2 2 года назад
That's an interesting theory 🤔
@Rachub
@Rachub 2 года назад
@@nottheeviltwin2 I've been thinking more about this, and looking into it more (to avoid work) and actually I think Adar has to somehow be connected to Eöl, I just can't figure out how. The reason is the sword they're looking for seems similar to me to Anguriel, one of two black swords that Eöl made and that he kept for himself (apparently its meaning is "iron of the fiery star" which might connect to the starfall somehow, but also explains its, um, fiery-ness). Also, Eöl hated the Nõldor. His son, Maeglin, actually betrayed Gondolin to its downfall. So it's not as if he has any love for other Elves either. He also loved darkness, not sunlight, which might suggest that the orc tunnels are a nice little spot for him. You know what, I think I've convinced myself they've resurrected Eöl for the show. (Apologies for the incredibly long rambling)
@nottheeviltwin2
@nottheeviltwin2 2 года назад
@@Rachub wonderful procrastination 👌 I love how in depth this is and how convincing this theory is 😁 I would imagine we'll find out more about Adar in the next two episodes 🤞 we'll have to see if your theory is confirmed...
@Pinkerton000
@Pinkerton000 2 года назад
I believe there is some indication that mithril may exist outside of the Misty Mountains. The first Star of Elendil was supposedly made with mithril, and was made before the founding of Eregion, so it is unclear how they would have gotten mithril in Numenor at the time. This leads some to speculate that mithril was found in some quantities there. Additionally, the Song of Eärendil mentions that his ship was made partly of mithril, which suggests that it is also found in Aman. However, that song was written by Bilbo and Aragorn, so it may be down to embellishment. In either case, Gandalf's mention that mithril is found only in Moria "alone in the world" could be consistent with it being found in Numenor, which is entirely inaccessible by then, or in Aman, which is not "part of the world", strictly speaking.
@nottheeviltwin2
@nottheeviltwin2 2 года назад
This is really interesting, thanks 😊
@MercuryKnight5
@MercuryKnight5 2 года назад
Thank you so much for discussing the show rationally. The hate-train is relentless! Yes, it has problems (especially after ep.5) but I'm willing to see where things go without passing judgement.
@joelincz8314
@joelincz8314 2 года назад
Thank you both, really enjoying this!
@nottheeviltwin2
@nottheeviltwin2 2 года назад
🥰
@epmtotalwar
@epmtotalwar 2 года назад
Episode 4 mentions that Arondir was born in Beleriand. I have a brief idea but I would like a more detailed explanation of where is/was Beleriend and what occured to make it no longer exist?
@LeftJoystick
@LeftJoystick 2 года назад
Oh boy…you’ve somehow managed to miss out on many of the greatest Tolkien stories of all time. Arachir has a playlist on this channel called “Lord of the Rings Lore” (or similar). I would definitely watch it. I’m not kidding at all when I say the First Age/Fall of Belieriand/War of Wrath are the greatest Tolkien stories btw. It’s stuff from the Silmarillion (and other books which expound on some of the events and stories mentioned within the Silmarillion).
@clay8434
@clay8434 2 года назад
There is a near 0% chance he would be able to cover this topic in any amount of detail given the time format he’s working with. The Silmarillion is one of the most efficient books I’ve ever read in that it describes nearly everything that happens in as few words as possible (while still having emotional impact), and I’d wager at least 70-80% of it is based on the events that happen in Beleriand. There’s just too much to cover.
@modernenglish9756
@modernenglish9756 2 года назад
According to Jess, the orcs don't like the sun because they are too white-skinned and sunburn too easily... my God! They are Scottish! 😆
@thehunter7422
@thehunter7422 2 года назад
48:37 I think it's for sure gotta be Sauron "whispering in his ear" bout it cause he told Elrond he needs it done by Spring , but no explanation as to why it has a deadline, probably the first biggest reason it's gotta be him . Probably promised him power or knowledge as a reward or of the course the recipe for making rings of power was his reward and was kept as a secret from Sauron. Think it's for sure setting up that we'll see Annatar in episode 8 or unless they want to try to toy with fans they'll show him in episode 7 and not make it cut to black so they can run him off as a new charecter and pretend like he's nothing special to the new Middle Earth fans who haven't read the books . Would be awesome if they show him in episode 7 to play him off as a powerful elf and not a disguise of Sauron to fool people even more ( besides the fact if they say his name Annatar that'll give a lot of answers if people decide to research lol ) but hopefully that's what they do . I think that would be perfect for the show. Also it could give more time in episode 8 so we can possibly see the Rings being made. Which is another reason why I think it's a good idea if episode 7 is the best way to introduce him. Cause I still think being called the Rings of Power for the show, would be nice to actually see em in the First season lol. But we'll see. I'm excited for that event to finally be seen on screens 😁
@amasulem
@amasulem 2 года назад
I would have thought that the reason (from my reading of the works many years ago) the Avari aren't mentioned later is because many were probably the base ingredient of the first Orcs.
@Esquarious
@Esquarious 2 года назад
Speaking of I'm pretty sure that is what Adar is and why the orcs call him father.
@clay8434
@clay8434 2 года назад
I don’t think Tolkien ever fully committed to the idea of orcs being literal elves who were corrupted to the point of becoming them. He seemed to flip flop between that and Melkor creating them in an attempt “recreate” the elves so that he would have beings to rule over, but just failing to match them in quality because he isn’t Eru.
@amasulem
@amasulem 2 года назад
@@clay8434 Aule did a reasonable job of the dwarves, so it isn't beyond Melkor's (the Ainur with the most potential at the creation in Eru's estimation) abilities to fashion afresh, but there are passages in the Silmarillion that do indicate Melkor refashioned what was already there rather than make anew. I suppose we can think of the Silmarillion as a secondary (in its composition), not primary source (first-hand account), and so not so trustworthy, and there may be doubt as to veracity of what is written as any medieval chronicle, so the variance in theory goes with the territory. It just makes the most sense to me, even if it is nice to have loose ends sometimes.
@MartinJSheldon
@MartinJSheldon 2 года назад
Neither Aule nor Melkor could create. Only Eru could create, as he did when Aule tried to create dwarves but could only make automatons. Eru took the automatons and created them in living beings. I doubt Eru said to himself ok just to be fair I’ll help Melkor to create orcs. Only Eru can create!
@clay8434
@clay8434 2 года назад
@@MartinJSheldon copied from an analysis of one of his letters: The essay on the origin of orcs fails to take into account "Morgoth's Ring", which is arguably much more valid than the Silmarillion. In it is stated that Tolkien specifically noted about the reference in the Silmarillion "change this, orcs are not elvish". Therefore we can deduce that their origins are most probably bestial and/or mannish. Such perversions would be in all probability soul-less creatures inhabited by a portion or miniature replica of the mind/will of their master, Morgoth. These slaves would then follow his every wish, without him ever needing to verbalize commands. Sauron, however, though most probably responsible for these vile things, (being originally a servant of Aule, the creator Vala, before Melkor recruited him) had himself a different will then his master's, necessitating him to create the Black Speech to communicate with them. Thus the evil of Morgoth did not create them, though it was undoubtedly by his power that they were made.
@danielhill6375
@danielhill6375 2 года назад
question for next episode I know when you started you said you will not make these breakdowns opinionated, buttttttttt can we here a quick 30-60 second opinion from both of you. I'm a huge Tolkien nerd and have read most of the histories and stories and been watching you for years and loving your lore videos. So for me the show from a fantasy show point of few its a great show, when you compare it to Tolkiens lengendarium it obviously is missing so much but I'm just happy to see some more middle eearth and hopefully this means a good future for middle fans, as in more games and things for us all to nerd out about. So would love to hear a quick opinion from you. Thanks guys! another great video with you two!!
@nottheeviltwin2
@nottheeviltwin2 2 года назад
We'll see about this request 🤔, it's nice to keep things neutral but maybe we could do a more general episode opinion. Hmm maybe further down this series or as a season 1 overview we could give our opinions on the show. We'll discuss it though 😊
@SkAnD1NaV1An
@SkAnD1NaV1An 2 года назад
I believe the three elven rings were made without the guidance of Sauron, though by means of his previous teaching.
@M4ss4Shut1ns
@M4ss4Shut1ns 2 года назад
If I could bet money on the identity of the Stranger, my money is on Wizard… so far I’m enjoying the series and your channel’s additional content to follow the show, much better format then just riding the hate this show is attracting online
@nottheeviltwin2
@nottheeviltwin2 2 года назад
I'm pleased you like the format 😊 hopefully we're creating a space for general discussion rather than picking the series apart 😊
@majoriansghost244
@majoriansghost244 2 года назад
Regarding the population of Elves, Galu is correct about a lack of numbers. The only time I can think of is when Turgon arrives with an army of 10000, IIRC "like a river of steel, with spears like a forest". It is during one of the major battles, perhaps Dagor Bragollach. I always thought that an unlikely number for only one city though.
@justinvanheerde4338
@justinvanheerde4338 2 года назад
Meteor man is just a Balrog. 100%
@NAR106
@NAR106 2 года назад
In your Istari video you describe that when the wizards come to middle earth they lose some of their knowledge, at least initially. (I remember an analogy of replaying a video game you're familiar with, but as a new character). I don't recall-since sauron is a maier as well-does that rule apply to him too? It would certainly give credence to the theory that the strange man with the Hobbits some type of maier.
@mylesjohnson7351
@mylesjohnson7351 2 года назад
In the Peter Jackson trilogy of lord of the rings the orcs are actually more pale for example the orc general that commands the armies attacking Minas Tirith and Osgiliath under the witch king it is usually the half orcs and uruk-hai that are depicted as dark skinned
@itsvick2416
@itsvick2416 2 года назад
I have two questions: 1. Are the Orcs their own race of beings? Or are they tortured and modified elves? In the films it looks like they're made in goopy tar stuff at Mount Doom but that doesn't seem to be the case here. 2. How are the lives of the elves linked to the tree in Lindon? Why is the tree affected by the darkness in the east when the rest of Middle Earth seems unaffected?
@angelodiberardino9498
@angelodiberardino9498 2 года назад
The sword remembers me of the flaming one we saw in the return of the king in the hands of the kingwitch
@ciryatar
@ciryatar 2 года назад
At least the way it reads in the book, the Witch King's sword isn't magical though. Cf this passage: "'Old fool! This is my hour. Do you not know Death when you see it? Die now and curse in vain!' And with that he lifted high his sword and flames ran down the blade". That sounds like the Witch King's own magic igniting his blade, rather than the sword itself being a magic artifact. Still, Amazon could do whatever they like.
@nottheeviltwin2
@nottheeviltwin2 2 года назад
That's really interesting 🤔 it would be cool if it was something to do with the witch King and if Adar is some how related to that eventuality.
@jacobbecker
@jacobbecker 2 года назад
Been enjoying these episodes, I'll add my own bit of speculation on meteor man. I think that he could be like the first shapeshifter, or the ancestor of Beorn. If Amazon has the harfoots migrate to the Vales of the Anduin then it makes geographical sense how both the harfoots and later the beornings come to inhabit that region. And since they are helping and fostering him now, he could later return their kindness and defend them from whatever may threaten them. That might also explain why he is magical and to what his powers can truly do. Of course, I could be entirely wrong, but I believe the shapeshifters origins are vague enough to allow Amazon to make this their origin story.
@Tar-Elenion
@Tar-Elenion 2 года назад
While he survives in earlier variants, as it develops Tolkien has Maglor cast himself into the sea: "The last two sons of Feanor, compelled by their oath, steal them, and are destroyed by them, casting themselves into the sea, and the pits of the earth." Letter 131 "The other two Silmarils were also taken by the Valar from the crown of Morgoth. But the last surviving sons of Feänor (Maedros and Maglor), in a despairing attempt to carry out the Oath, stole them again. But they were tormented by them, and at last they perished each with a jewel: one in a fiery cleft in the earth, and one in the sea." Concerning... The Hoard Maglor's death is also implied: "The sons of Eärendil were Elros and Elrond, the Peredhil or Half-elven. In them alone the line of the heroic chieftains of the Edain in the First Age was preserved; and after the fall of Gil-galad the lineage of the High-elven Kings was also in Middle-earth only represented by their descendants." LotR "Galad occurs also in the epessë of Ereinion (‘scion of kings') by which he was chiefly remembered in legend, Gil-galad ‘star of radiance’: he was the last king of the Eldar in Middle-earth, and the last male descendant of Finwë except Elrond the Half-elven." Shibboleth of Feanor
@Emanon...
@Emanon... 2 года назад
The entire story up until the second age pretty much proves that elves have the capacity to be outright pricks
@clay8434
@clay8434 2 года назад
Assholes, absolutely. But even the greatest elven asshole of all time (Feanor) would have never willingly served Morgoth or any of his servants. Tolkien was very clear about that.
@MartinJSheldon
@MartinJSheldon 2 года назад
That is a very fair comment and lore consistent
@brokenglass9814
@brokenglass9814 2 года назад
I don't think the worst thing Eöl did was kill his wife...
@clay8434
@clay8434 2 года назад
Wait, is enchanting an entire forest to the point where some poor elf woman can’t find a way out so she is forced to stay with you while you manipulate her into falling in love with you a bad thing?
@brokenglass9814
@brokenglass9814 2 года назад
@@clay8434 Hate to be a killjoy but I think it counts as kidnapping and rape tbh
@clay8434
@clay8434 2 года назад
@@brokenglass9814 I was joking
@simonlittle9294
@simonlittle9294 2 года назад
If you are not of the Halbrand is Sauron way of thinking, what did you make of the " mmm I fancy doing a bit of smithing" and psycho anger management moments.....is this Amazon doing some very subtle misdirection? It was also a bit strange though, if he is Sauron and his big plan to make it to Numenor, was floating about in the Sundering Sea on a plank of wood on the off chance Galadriel might jump overboard on her way to Valinor. Very enjoyable video, thank you both.
@Kreuzkruger89
@Kreuzkruger89 2 года назад
why was beleriand destroyed in the war of wrath? particularly the realms of elves, men and dwarves? did the dwarves hold any grudges against the valar for destroying their great cities?
@krzysztofszafranski2250
@krzysztofszafranski2250 2 года назад
Bereliand wasn't destroyed on purpose by either Morgoth or the Valar. Rather, the extreme powers of the forces of the Valar and of Morgoth ended up causing things like earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanic eruptions, etc. As for the dwarves themselves, they were both situated around Mount Dolmed, the tallest mountain at the time of the Blue Mountains. If they dug vast halls, mines, and cities into the mountain, its plausible that it collapsed under its own weight from the immense stress that it endured from the cataclysms. Nothing is mentioned of any grudges, and the dwarves still worship Aule, one of the main Valar, in the latter ages.
@mylesjohnson7351
@mylesjohnson7351 2 года назад
If you compare halbrand to the king of the dead he actually kind of looks like him
@RemusKingOfRome
@RemusKingOfRome 2 года назад
Great video.
@andybond28
@andybond28 2 года назад
"Are Orcs born" .... No don't even go there... lol very true 👍
@nottheeviltwin2
@nottheeviltwin2 2 года назад
Oh but we did in the next one 😅😏
@corin492
@corin492 2 года назад
I have to agree with the Stranger and Sauron, the lore matches up nearly perfectly. However there is a leak that says something else entirely. I guess we will have to wait and see
@MartinJSheldon
@MartinJSheldon 2 года назад
I believe you are stretching credulity a little too far when you say it matches the Tolkien lore perfectly, it matches none I.m aware of perhaps you meant Amazon Lore 😂
@mikkebullansen7461
@mikkebullansen7461 2 года назад
the magic is like "the force kinda" like Gandalf uses "passive" Magic tricks "all the time"
@1918atv
@1918atv 2 года назад
Take a shot everytime Gali says “bits and bobs”
@williamwest831
@williamwest831 Год назад
Why do they have Sauron asking for Galadriels hand in marriage?!? What is that about ? I saw a small clip of that scene and was kinda blown away.
@MrPooryorick
@MrPooryorick 2 года назад
Sauron chose Mordor as his base of operations because the volcano there was the only thing of capable of creating the one ring
2 года назад
Not so. It was for its defensive prowess. The volcano was just an added bonus.
@StonedMonkey_HQ
@StonedMonkey_HQ 2 года назад
Old man is definitely sourmon the wight wizard set before gandolf and the blue wizards
@StonedMonkey_HQ
@StonedMonkey_HQ 2 года назад
Think in he was sent first and liked being in the presence of life an enjoyed the company of hobbits
@StonedMonkey_HQ
@StonedMonkey_HQ 2 года назад
Then was corrupted and twisted by planitir and souron
@KingBarnaDuke
@KingBarnaDuke 2 года назад
The Stormlight Archive is excellent. Brilliant storytelling, Fantastic world building and character development. Good video, thank you. I enjoyed it very much. The Amazon TV show however is.... Not good. Which is a shame. If you like a little light horror/ grim dark, try 'The demon cycle' by Peter v Brett.
@rexvolk8704
@rexvolk8704 2 года назад
I was very disappointed in the past two episodes, I found the Arondir prison riot scene to be incredibly stupid and poorly written, on a similar note, the action/combat is awful, I very much hope they rectify their mistake in the combat department. THANK YOU FOR THE VIDEO! LOVE THESE THOUGH!
@pushpindersekhon6221
@pushpindersekhon6221 2 года назад
If Valinor is a finite place, and elves need food to survive, would there eventually be an overpopulation problem in Valinor?
@nottheeviltwin2
@nottheeviltwin2 2 года назад
I would assume because its a magical place, this doesn't become a problem and normal rules don't apply 🤔
@clay8434
@clay8434 2 года назад
Not if Feanor has anything to say about it.
@galvatron0810
@galvatron0810 2 года назад
Unrelated question to the show, is the mirror of Galadriel a palantir or something similar?
@diego6237
@diego6237 2 года назад
PLEASE I BEG OF THEE Could you tell me if Naragbark (the axe forged out of Gurthang in the Ered Luin events in DaC 4.5) is an actual ancillary that can be equipped? Or do you just get the Dragon Helm of Dor Lomin... I've been looking for the answer for this for ages 🙏🙏🙏
@DM-zu8hw
@DM-zu8hw 2 года назад
Nin mellon ☺thank you for amazing mod you build still today its brings me joy every day ☺ i have question do you think we will see in a show war with Sauron and Elves in the west☺- Dorth happui nin mellon☺
@themirkwoodelf6571
@themirkwoodelf6571 2 года назад
Do the people that live in Mordor do they help Sauron in the war of the ring and do they still live in Mordor in the war of the ring
@pradeepvijayakumar9390
@pradeepvijayakumar9390 2 года назад
Do you think the show's creators might have seen Divide and Conquer or your RU-vid channel videos and taken some inspiration? For example we have so many guilds in DAC and the Khand campaign where an evil faction turns good (in relation to your comment about Halbrand being part of evil men but turning good?). And also what if the meteor man is Tom Bombadil ?!
@galvatron0810
@galvatron0810 2 года назад
5:00 Is that a fidget spinner on her armor?
@admiralgeneral321
@admiralgeneral321 2 года назад
So you said that Miriel and Palantir are not magical this maybe my own misunderstanding of the text but aren’t Numenoreans somewhat mystical? They have the ability to peer into people’s hearts and minds, correct and are able to use the Palantir when middle men cannot. If this is incorrect or interpreted it wrong let me know. Going to miss you lots when you are gone.
@tora9915
@tora9915 Год назад
Aren’t the elves of Dorwinion Avari?
Год назад
Only in my made up lore for Dorwinion. That is 100% my own creation and nothing to do with any source material.
@tora9915
@tora9915 Год назад
@ ahhhhh that makes sense. Getting it all jumbled up in my head. Probably also some of the other things I’ve read about Bladorthin, which is of course conjecture. But anyhow, great video and series!
@rjd8856
@rjd8856 2 года назад
I think the reason the meteor man is Sauron is because he will end up thinking nothing of these simpleton hobbits, and therefore, overlook them when it matters (spoiler ;))
@Pauly001
@Pauly001 2 года назад
Never read source material but the show is great. House of the dragons and rings of power releasing shows back to back are really the only good shows to watch right now. She hulk is alright but not on the same level I think
@Emanon...
@Emanon... 2 года назад
The Hobo-Hobbits and (i)Star(i)Man side of the story is, frankly, entirely uninteresting and superfluous. They better have some S+ tier writing to make up for the breaks in pace and story to justify what is right now a b-plot of no consequence. I hope I'm wrong, but shoehorning in hobbits in the story points to the opposite.
@Redwall2306
@Redwall2306 2 года назад
do dwarves revere the valar? cheers and thanks for the videos!
2 года назад
Only Aulë who created them.
@znalniaskas
@znalniaskas 2 года назад
Speculations on my behalf: I think meteor man could actually end up being a Balrog, who still has the ability to change his form as a Maiar and has lost part of his memory. Noldor and Dwarfs probably bounded over killing Teleri...
@Theaddekalk
@Theaddekalk 2 года назад
but they do have a real need to go in the sunlight, they hunting for that sword that is superspecial, why woudlnt they go in to the sunlight then and still hunt them
@sullivanlaramie2901
@sullivanlaramie2901 2 года назад
Given the smoke pouring off them after Arondir cut down the excavation's covering in episode 3, I'm guessing they would eventually be incapacitated either from the pain, actual inability to move, or possibly death.
@Theaddekalk
@Theaddekalk 2 года назад
@@sullivanlaramie2901 did you even listen on the video. If that's the case and that's one time they showned us. Other times they were running is sunlight. But if that the case it's bad writing and no look on lore. They jump and back about that. And orcs in lite can still move in sunlight.
@Esquarious
@Esquarious 2 года назад
@@Theaddekalk I think Galu is understating the physical effects of the sun on, at least, Amazon's version of orcs. They are more then psychologically scared of it. IIrc, there is a line in which the orc captain threatens another orc with sun duty "until his skin turns to charcoal," or something of that nature. That sounds pretty painful.
@Theaddekalk
@Theaddekalk 2 года назад
@@Esquarious no he is telling you what the orcs are in the books and how they suppose to be. In the show we see it like that. That Amazon does it and it's weird. But my question was that they only went in real need. But his example was more if they full of hatred or equal
@sammiealexander2567
@sammiealexander2567 2 года назад
At the End of All Things, someone should get the courage to say this to Amazon Leadership : "You are a delivery guys. You figured out how to deliver packages efficiently. This made you billionaires ... but that doesn't mean your are cultured or sophisticated or smart. You are, and you always be a delivery guys. So, stay with you know best, deliver gizmos, get richer, enjoy life. Stop publicly embarrassing yourselves messing up with cultural concepts you cannot ever comprehend by hiring juvenile incompetents to paint your comic-book visions ."
@jamaly77
@jamaly77 2 года назад
Very original copy pasta. Much wow.
@tonyoramos1
@tonyoramos1 2 года назад
Please stop being mean to the interviewer
@malekiththeeternityking5433
@malekiththeeternityking5433 2 года назад
This show is really bad, Galadriel is insufferable, the dialogue feels like it's written by a 15 year old trying to sound smart I.E. saying a lot of stupid crap with little substance. And it's really flipping boring
@gerrycalhoun9827
@gerrycalhoun9827 2 года назад
don't watch it then mate
@malekiththeeternityking5433
@malekiththeeternityking5433 2 года назад
@@gerrycalhoun9827 Gladly. If you geniunely support this crap ypu're a smoothbrain lmao.
@VerkingKerng
@VerkingKerng 2 года назад
@@gerrycalhoun9827 judging solely on this response you seem like a bit of a twat.
@paulr935
@paulr935 2 года назад
@@gerrycalhoun9827 ok, so people can't voice their opinion on the show? You people are insufferable.
@Emanon...
@Emanon... 2 года назад
Of course you can, if it's actual criticism. But not every opinion needs to be heard, especially in a forum where people are here to discuss this particular show. It's like showing up to a musical only to yell "I don't like musicals" and be offended if people tell you to leave, if you don't like it. Not everything is about "you people", either. Let other people enjoy it in peace and go winge somewhere else. It's really that simple.
@paulgiggs99
@paulgiggs99 2 года назад
I'm offically done with the show: just awful
@Tar-Elenion
@Tar-Elenion 2 года назад
"Few Orcs ever did so [surrendered] in the Elder Days, and at no time would any Orc treat with any Elf. For one thing Morgoth had achieved was to convince the Orcs beyond refutation that the Elves were crueller than themselves, taking captives only for ‘amusement’, or to eat them (as the Orcs would do at need)." Morgoth's Ring, MT, X "But they [the Quendi] never (not even the wrong-doers) rejected Eru, nor worshipped either Melkor or Sauron as a god - neither individually or as a whole people." NoMe, Concerning the Quendi in their mode of life and growth
@pwmiles56
@pwmiles56 2 года назад
There is a Guild of Venturers i.e. mariners in Numenor, set up by the sixth King Tar-Aldarion. There is also a guild of weaponsmiths (Unfinished Tales). In Eregion Celebrimbor heads up a guild of jewel-smiths, the Gwaith-i-Mirdain (in name a society or brotherhood but plainly a guild).
@corin492
@corin492 2 года назад
Regarding the depiction of Numenor in the show, shouldn't Numenor have a vast colonial empire? As I understand it at this time in SA they are basically the main superpower of Arda rivalling the military and political power of the Eldar, yet they are apparently unknown to the people in Middle earth like Halbrand
@ajavierb2078
@ajavierb2078 2 года назад
The lore is broken in this series
@Pentagathusosaurus
@Pentagathusosaurus 2 года назад
I always read the Dunedain who are "farsighted" actually do have some kind of prophetic visions of knowledge. For sure Aragorn seems to, see his warning to Gandalf about the mines of Moria
@FathersLoveWithoutEnd
@FathersLoveWithoutEnd 2 года назад
And his prediction for the ending of the Battle of Helms Deep. And for meeting Eomer in the middle of the Pellanor Fields battle.
@Bassic
@Bassic 2 года назад
I thought they just needed glasses.
@JoeDirte157
@JoeDirte157 2 года назад
Any chance Adar is Maeglin? Burnt face and black blade like his father Eol his father. 🤷🏼‍♂️
@MrHelllllloooooo
@MrHelllllloooooo 2 года назад
I love the chemistry between you 2, you should look at getting married 😅
@ajavierb2078
@ajavierb2078 2 года назад
How could they fuck up mithril and silmarillion so bad.
@diogom612
@diogom612 2 года назад
I think, whether it's Sauron's influence or knowing about mithril, it's definitely kinda suspicious Celebrimbor's in such a hurry to complete the forge, "need it by spring" as he says. And then again, neither would explain the urgency, unless Sauron has a whole show planned to happen at a certain point.
@nottheeviltwin2
@nottheeviltwin2 2 года назад
Yess! It'll be interesting to see why speed is so important to him 🤔
@MrTimebomb12
@MrTimebomb12 2 года назад
I want the stranger theory to be wrong but I know it isn't. The first time I saw the meteor in the trailer I said it was Sauron, it just makes too much sense. Yeah, he would travel through the world as a flaming rock, makes sense. But why is he pretending to be a mute gentle magical giant to the Harfoots? Sure, he is Sauron the Deceiver, but what evil plan could he possibly have with the Harfoots? Sauron in the Second Age was hell bent on trying to destroy Numenor, and yet here in the show for some reason he is the furthest away from it? I would just rather Sauron appear as Annatar the first time we see him. That would have been cool enough in my opinion. I don't need him to pretend to be a wizard to Harfoots.
@FlyingDutchman3
@FlyingDutchman3 2 года назад
The theory of Halbrand becoming the king of the dead is interesting and I can also see that happen
@Aa_Mm
@Aa_Mm 2 года назад
i still think the meteor man is going to end up being a wizard, i even warmed up to the idea of him being Gandalf (i know it's too early but knowing how fond of the hobbits he is later on, what the show is doing makes sense to me, i'm in). and my bet would be that Sauron/Annatar has yet to show his face. so many characters have been set up to *possibly* be Sauron, on purpose ofc, just for him to end up being in Eregion, chilling with Celebrimbor. halbrand is still very suspicious though. we'll see how the show runners handle all the loose threads. thank you for another great discussion.
@aidenharrison9613
@aidenharrison9613 2 года назад
I reckon Halbrand might by the Oathbreaker King who won't fight for the good guys in later series.
2 года назад
That is the King of the Dead. They are the same person. :P
@misseskimo1
@misseskimo1 Год назад
I could be totally wrong because I don't know a lot at all about the actual lore but doesn't denethor have a palantir? And misinterprets things from it? Or is that a load of rubbish?
@nottheeviltwin2
@nottheeviltwin2 Год назад
We answer this in the episode 5 video ☺
@corin492
@corin492 2 года назад
19:03, isn't there a gap also at Minas Ithil?
@clay8434
@clay8434 2 года назад
Should be. The armies of Mordor had to leave from somewhere. Unless they came down from the black gate and used Minas Morgul as a staging ground.
@TeutonicKnight92
@TeutonicKnight92 Год назад
It’s funny watching these after the fact
@ironwolvesproductions6283
@ironwolvesproductions6283 2 года назад
I am hoping that Adar is actually an Avarin elf that would have been coaxed to Beleriand by Melkor only to be tormented into the first proto-orc...survives the war of wrath and is then just taking the time to lay the foundation for Sauron's return out of "love" for his fellow kin that are now orcs
@LeftJoystick
@LeftJoystick 2 года назад
In the Silmarillion, there are elves [captured prisoners basically] who have been turned into “thralls” just by having looked into Morgoth’s eyes. They then require no bonds/chains, yet are ever after submissive to Morgoth’s will. Some are able to break it, but it seems the vast majority who fall victim to Morgoth’s gaze are bound by it until their death. Really sad tbh. This is all after the orcs had been ‘created’ though.
@alexrees7652
@alexrees7652 2 года назад
Hi galu and Jess - question for the next video. Why did the Tolkien estate not allow Amazon more rights (to the silmilarion etc) as surely by not allowing the writers use of more of the expanded lore and stories it would only damage/worsen the plot line, and therefore make the show “worse” and go against the interests of the estate and tolkiens work (by having a worse product)
@nottheeviltwin2
@nottheeviltwin2 2 года назад
Hmm may have to do some research for this one 🤔
@clay8434
@clay8434 2 года назад
Tbh I’m surprised they let Amazon purchase any of it. Amazon has all the traits of Tolkien’s most evil characters, so in a way it’s like selling them to Sauron. Not that I begrudge them for it, the real world is certainly greyer than Tolkien’s and it will only expose more people to his stories. Tolkien would have certainly never allowed it were he still alive though, and that’s probably why they only allowed them to have a tiny portion of one of the least covered topics in the legendarium.
@alexrees7652
@alexrees7652 2 года назад
@@clay8434 I hadn't thought of it from that point of view - you could certainly be onto something there.
@thegoodsoldiersvjek2335
@thegoodsoldiersvjek2335 2 года назад
Yet again another great video - keep them coming !
@ajavierb2078
@ajavierb2078 2 года назад
Funny that everyone likes the dunedain. But the only people that i can find who are faithfull to tolkien are the council of the rings and Darth Gandalf. The rest have all accepted the abomination that amazon has made. Even melkor could not corrupt the lore as much as amazon has done.
2 года назад
Whatever gets you through the day sir.
@ajavierb2078
@ajavierb2078 2 года назад
@ what a well thought out answer.
2 года назад
@@ajavierb2078 I do try.
@jonnywieger
@jonnywieger 2 года назад
A general question on how you think the remaining seasons will tackle chronology. As they are establishing characters on Numenor they probably won't sink the island till season 4 or so, so do you think they will try and condense the rest of the history of the kingdoms in exile so that season 5 ends with the Last Alliance? Or do you think they will take the pace more slowly? Odds are with how far along Numenor is in its history they are skipping over the War of the Elves and Sauron, unless they plan on somehow mashing it into the condensed storyline and perhaps combining the fall of Eregion with the beginning of the War of the Last Alliance. Thanks for your thoughts!
@vaggelistheodorou8146
@vaggelistheodorou8146 2 года назад
Will the rings be made of Mithril?
@alexandersidestreammedia
@alexandersidestreammedia 2 года назад
A part from the elven rings we aren't completely sure what goes into the 'lesser rings' but yes one of the elven rings is said to contain Mithril. Nenya, Galadriel's ring to be exact (Return of the King, last chapter). Assuming Amazon stays true to this bit of lore Celebrimbor will need to get some of the good stuff from the Dwarves (or Elrond). However it is said that at the core of the greatest seven hoards of the Dwarf-Kings there where in days of old seven golden rings (Silmarillion, Rings of power chapter). Since (I believe) there isn't a real difference between the dwarven and human rings I would assume that these rings are all made primarily of gold. But who knows what else the smiths put in there and who knows what Amazon will put in after that.
@SheppardOfNumenor
@SheppardOfNumenor 2 года назад
Gee wiz, another Breeland camp… oh wait no. I got too excited
@johnzin6447
@johnzin6447 2 года назад
Oh never thought of pronouncing it Adolin as Ah-dohl-lin. I've always thought of it like Ay-doh-lin
@nottheeviltwin2
@nottheeviltwin2 2 года назад
Oh really? It's interesting how differently we all pronounce things in our heads. When Galu and I discuss the story there are a few names he and I pronounce differently 😅
@ironwolvesproductions6283
@ironwolvesproductions6283 2 года назад
Elrond may love mithril because it may remind him of his dad's ship? Was just an idea I could be wrong
@nottheeviltwin2
@nottheeviltwin2 2 года назад
Mmm and maybe because his father carries the night star and saying how it's as if it is lit from within.
@avermanbramblebuck5220
@avermanbramblebuck5220 2 года назад
Really hope you both keep making these, they are adding so much to my understanding and enjoyment of the series! I know it takes Galu a lot of research and time to put together lore videos of a standard with which he is content with, but I do hope you can persuade him Jess to make that breakdown of the origins of Orcs at some point if you can't tackle it on the show!
@nottheeviltwin2
@nottheeviltwin2 2 года назад
They will certainly continue for the rest of the season, I hope everyone continues watching them 🤞 Hopefully these videos will be a happy middle ground for everyone between the Lore videos and general discussion. I'll do my best about the Orc origin video! Maybe we'll have to discuss it in another way and not go into every theory 🤔
@gameofghost5762
@gameofghost5762 2 года назад
What’s the link between Sauron and the palantiri? Is there one in Mordor that he uses to communicate with all the others or does he have some kind of link through them all?
@TheonlyHostName
@TheonlyHostName 2 года назад
He caputered the one that was in Minas Morgul. He needs a Palantir to communicate with a Palantir
@thefifthhobbit2092
@thefifthhobbit2092 2 года назад
To me Meteor man does not make sense for it to be Sauron mainly because Sauron in the show is said to be organizing a bunch of stuff and then what? Goes away only to return in a meteor? Sauron only wanted a grand entrance?
@corin492
@corin492 2 года назад
It's already been established there are others (Adar) doing the organising. Sauron left Middle Earth after the defeat of Melkor and then returned, so if it's the Stranger it matches the lore
@corin492
@corin492 2 года назад
Sauron is one of the few characters in Tolkien with the ability to fly
@thefifthhobbit2092
@thefifthhobbit2092 2 года назад
@@corin492 I mean we know in the story line that Sauron went North and was organizing orcs, to me it does not line up
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