Rivals 2: Potentially Coming for the Crown. 

absolutely agree with this. i think the first impression it gave many was just that it was a goofy platform fighter and that was it. the volume of these kinds of videos going "RONALD MCDONALD VERSUS LUIGI??" also just got pretty tiring as well

Thing i’m also kinda upset about is that alot of workshop characters lack the cool stage control gimmicks and even just really unique normals of rivals. Although i’ll give it credit that all of my favorite hyperfixations are on the workshop

What is life if you can't make fun of yourself and have a joke or two. Thanks so much for the comment!

Well they were alot smaller when they first started out and Dan was basically the only coder. iirc he stated that back then coding ledges and grabs resulted is too many errors and bugs. So without grabs he decided to do something else than shields (for balance) argo parries.

Yeah I did. I didn't want to open that can of worms because while workshop did 100% increase replayability and casual enjoyment, it shouldn't/wouldn't be the main reason to play Rivals 2. "Wouldn't" because it's not going to be a launch/semi-launch addition and "Shouldn't" because Rivals should stand on its own merit and not have the workshop community be its life blood. Don't get me wrong I still think workshop is great and should be a feature in Rivals 2, but I wanted to focus what the developers can do for the game without workshop. On the flipside I am looking close at Fraymakers right now since that game right now is basically being ran off of community content. So it will be a great example of if this would be a fun and/or successful way for a game to progress.

No, ROB was a thing before Super Smash Bros.

@@Emerald12222wasn’t he just a toy or was there a game that went with it?

@@T3RD5ify There were games that came with him. AVGN has done videos on it.

@@Emerald12222 he was a *thing*, like sure he was playable in Mario Kart but Smash gave it a major role in the story mode and made it an actual character

@@DavrK He was a peripheral for the NES. Like I said before, AVGN did a video on it.

Thanks so much! I know Rivals 2 is gonna be solid, but I do hope that they don't forget about the fun and squash the bugs as soon as they arise

The switch version of rivals one was always a little behind on updates but I think the online is really what kills it. It’s actually dead on switch. At least on steam you’ll find some people

This section was about monetization of colors and outfits. Which for this specific scenario 3D modeling is easier than sprite animation since you will not have to redraw every frame of animation for the outfit and you are about to do more with the outfits in equal to less time than with sprite animation in this regard. Adding things (like a hat) to the model would not need anything to be programmed; Adding special fx would but that was also true of Rivals 1 (tho none of this programming would all that time consuming). Also New taunt animation would be the "same process" as making them with sprite animation in Rivals 1, but with a bonus potential for those taunts to be added to the character's other outfits without incurring too much additional recourses when compared to sprite animation.

@@DimzNoms Adding a hat to a model would still be a fairly time-intensive process. Sure, it wouldn't be to the same degree as modifying every single sprite, but it wouldn't be as effortless as an alt costume or even as quick to make as a new taunt animation. And speaking of new taunts, animating a 3D model is exponentially more difficult than animating a 2D sprite, and programming in special cosmetic features is similarly much more difficult in a 3D engine.

@@Awesomeness-iz3dh Well in that case I hope it isn't difficult to them. Because when I have to change and edit things for my 2D & 3D games; I have much easier time doing edits on the 3D side than the 2D. So I guess we will just have to hope that it wouldn't be a problem for them. I would hate to get less cosmetic content for my favorite chars because of that reason.

Did I said "Only"? If I did then oops my bad. Didn't mean to 😅

​@@DimzNoms1:51 haha it's all good, no one ever considers brawlhalla as a top contender for best plateform Fighter

@@Ed_AlphA Yeah, but it sure is the biggest (aside from Smash Bros).

Bro I said the same thing😂😂😂 Brawlhalla is so big it's beating out Street fighter 6

Supposedly... but that mode is stated to not come out anywhere near launch :(

I claim that Rivals 1 didn't cater enough to the casuals because none of the casual modes were available at Launch (granted most still was planned). It's not charitable to have players to wait atleast 6months after launch for a 'Party Mode' then say that the game has Always had something for casual players. Obviously these modes worked out for them impressively (especially Workshop), but these modes not being at launch left the casual players nothing to do at launch. It was just versus mode or log out. The versus mode wasn't even very customizable when it comes to the things that you can do outside of the standard fighting. Not many casual stages or game altering things like items. I don't fault them for this because they had a small team and it was their 1st game (the fact that it came out at all is an accomplishment). For Rivals 2 it looks like there might be a repeat of that. Going off of the Kickstarter goals that might not get met. There isn't going to be Story mode, Combo trails, or Arcade mode at launch. It was already confirmed that Workshop isn't going to be there either. So it's going to possibly be a repeat of the Rivals 1 launch where Versus mode will pretty much be the only mode, on standard stages, and with possibly little to no ways to alter the standard gameplay. This will generally hurt player numbers because after the first month, those casual players will feel like they dont have anything to do. Then after atleast 6months when the more things gets added to the game then will have to roll the dice and just hope that it brings those people back.

@@DimzNoms That's fair, yeah. I personally still enjoy playing CPU battles in Rivals 1 from time to time, so despite definitely being on the casual side of things myself, I can't really say I'm too worried about the lack of such features on launch, though I could see others getting bored of it. I think a strong launch roster of 9 characters with at least 2 brand new ones will put it above similarly feature-incomplete games like Fraymakers in terms of staying power, though, especially with just how good it looks and how polished it is. Still, I do hope we'll get extra features like an arcade mode and story mode sooner rather than later, but it's still a crowdfunded indie project at the end of the day, even if it's much larger than most indie projects.

I am in full agreement with you.

10

I am guessing you only play workshop because you find cosmic ronald funny?

@@cosmic5665 quite the opposite, I commented this because rivals in the general public has become workshop slop and it's a major casual appeal and saying rivals has no casual appeal is just a straight up lie When I brought the game to a convention a literal 9 year old walked up to the setup, turned on workshop, and begged for me to play the game w him. If that isn't casual appeal then idk what is

Also 10 is the amount of characters the game will launch w (probably w a few being free dlc characters), which was confirmed in the reddit ama In case ur curious abt that too

@@NeutralOfficial I will always keep up with news, 10 and then wanting to add as many characters as possible is more than enough for me