@@donbutler149 Yah we know ....he won us a championship playing "part time " 🤷🏾♂️ We just had better management and better trainers which I'm sure he's now realizing. 😆
I understand this arguement. But that was 6 years ago and multiple injuries for Kawhi since then. He has had a great career but that doesn’t mean he is the same player now. The gap between him and PG isnt a wide margin
He took the Clippers to the only conference finals that they've ever been to lol What Kawhi did on his old teams should be irrelevant. They'd of been screwed either way though imo, you're not winning with James Harden as your point guard
@@jamesealey8060 understand, but you can't erase his championships, FMVPs, & DPOY awards lol. Kawhi also made 2nd team All-NBA this past season so the Clippers actually got him on a discount all things considered.
The way Kawhai has gotten hurt in the playoffs after all that load management it's becoming a trend. If that happens again this year he should hang it up.
How is Shaun King trying to compare what OKC is doing now to when they had KD/Russ/Harden. Last time I checked they haven’t been to a finals or won a championship 🤷🏾♂️
@@straightfacts6482 Ppl pay to actually see their favorite player play basketball. If that's what his mentality is, he should Just retire then. What's the difference between Bronny & Kawhi, both are stealing a young kids opportunity...?🤔🤷♂️
@@Travis89-ob5tt You forgot Kawhi DEMANDED that the Clippers trade for PG or he wont sign with them, OKC knew they was going to get a ransom from the Clippers.
In my opinion, Paul George and Kawhai value to a team is practically equal at this point. Yes, Kawhai has 2 rings and DPOY, but he hasn't been that guy in 5-6 years. With his injuries and age, he doesn't bring the same value to a team that he used to.
The only reason they made it was that Kawhi went berserk in the Dallas series on both ends of the floor. He had to switch to Luka because PG was getting cooked.
Rob is absolutely right about these athletes and their podcasts. If Paul George put in as much work as he did his podcast he would be a hell of a player
He is mad about the podcast thing because it kills his business. People would rather listen to the athlete who actually plays the game not some journo who makes up theories.
@@hexagonoctogon3140 what's true? Paul George does a podcast once a week of which he is not the editor and the pods lasts less than 3 hours. There are 168 hours per week which means PG is literally spending less than 2% of the hours in a week on a podcast. Even if we say he spends half of the hours in a week sleeping then he still only spends 4% of his productive time on a podcast. Do you think he is jerking off during the rest of the 96% of the working hours he has in a week? It's simple math which even a grade school student can do. Rob is mad that PG does more numbers with 1 episode per week than what Rob does posting almost every week day.
I'm just glad I drafted Paul George in my nba fantasy league. PG played more games and lowkey ranked 11th overall in those games in 9 category formats last season. filling up the stat sheet defensively and offensively at an efficient rate and was available for the most part.
Rob can’t get it through his head that people watch athletes podcast to hear athletes chop it up. Not for their journalism background. Rob is just mad they have reach and can control their own narratives
He's wrong. Clippers really should've paid him the full max and looked to trade him later. Instead they lost him for nothing and have no way of replacing him
Thats a hell of a gamble. Keep in mind the max is higher for the same team then if the player leaves and with his injury history that could quickly become a poison pill. Signing him as an asset is ruthless as well because youd have to lie to him and say "we want you here for the future blah blah blah. We believe we can win a championship with you..". What they did was honorable because resigning him would have held a player that hasnt won hostage in an unwinable situation.
@@macalloway1PG knows what it is. He even said on his podcast if he takes 3 yrs which was a 60 mil paycut, he wants a no trade clause. But if they give him the 4th year then if they traded him, he at least has the contract he wanted. The problem is their previous mistakes of trading away all their picks is what makes them in an unwinnable situation. They can't tank cuz they'll only make OKC better. They are now worst without PG. Even with his injury history they were at least making the playoffs. Now they are possibly a lottery team with that lottery pick going to OKC in a deep draft
clips should have gave him the no trade clause. You can say Kawhi is better but who is the more desired player in a trade. That's PG over Harden and Kahwi for different reasons. So I get PG's position. If something goes south, PG the first one out the door via trade.
"Probably about the same" ????? 🤨 Dude must have watched 0 games this year, Kawhi was 2nd team all nba and better than PG in literally every statistical category. Only played 6 more games too. No wonder the views aren't there for y'all
Chris and Rob are terrified of the Players having podcasts because it is Exposing the over Paid Sports Talking Heads for what they truly are, clueless. The Clippers are not better off with either and they should have just accepted that and started over.
Rob is wrong. I dont understand how you can continue to reward guys who dont play. Youre sending the message to the rest of the team that durability and playing hard every game doesnt really matter. Creates a losing mentality.
@@iguesss maybe you misunderstood. Im saying players like george and kawhi dont deserve to get paid like max players. It sends the wrong message to the rest of the team that availability doesnt really matter
He nailed it- it’s a business most teams don’t want to win they want to do business then win and it shows, if u all in you have to do everything to win regardless of the business (Warriors,Raptors,Lakers,Celtics) etc
I thought steve wanted to win for the clippers,, he cant be on the sideline going crazy anymore and he tanking,, when steve ballmar dropped his head on pg missed free throw and put his face in his hands ,, it was a damn moment
Rob is right. Kawhi has made multiple all NBA teams and has been in votings for MVP, DPoy etc. where as PG has made 1 NBA team selection. At least Kawhi has something to work with. 1 healthy playoff run is almost a guaranteed chip. With PG you can’t say the same.
So glad to hear someone besides Chris push back on Rob’s BS. Rob acting like Kawhi resume as a Clipper is somehow leaps and bounds over PG’s. They both literally the same guy, injuries and all. Clippers tried a home run and stuck out with those two. Time to start fresh
Same guy? No way. Mentally they’re not in the same stratosphere. Kawhi is a better on ball and help defender. I’m a clippers fan . I look at the games and listen to analysis of other clipper fans. KL is more efficient offensively.
The disrespect Leonard gets is sickening. Rob is right. Kawhi is better than PG. It's not just the career accolades. Kawhi is a more reliable 3 level shooter and a better defender. Isn't Kawhi the better Clipper? He's just made all-nba second team. He used to be on 1st team (2021 before ACL) and all-defensive teams. He was all star MVP as a Clipper. He's a regular top5 in effeciency ratings. He made the 75th anniversaey team, not PG. What the hell are you people talking about? The Clippers have made the right decision to let PG go. "Kawhi never plays, he's always hurt". BS. He hardly played less than PG. They're both injury prone. Anyone who picks PG over Leonard doesn't understand the game of basketball.
Shawn I like you Bro but your WRONG on this! The Clippers made the RIGHT decision on keeping Kawhi and letting Paul go. They HAD to have the best superstar to open up their new arena for the fans to go there for!
Bruh Clippers fumbled, they even fumbled on the warriors deals for PG and he ended up leaving for nothing after they paid an injury prone player to stay.
Rob is right. From a business standpoint you need to have something to sell. OKC doesn't have the Lakers in their town either. Understand nobody thought SGA would become what he is today. He was the 11th pick of Charlotte. He was immediately traded for Miles Bridges. OK. But after the Clips had him in their camp for a year they traded him and gave up the world in other assets. Jalen Williams was one of the assets. When you tear it down you got to get lucky too. You got to hit on those picks. There are no guarantees.
Great debate I agree on both arguments if the clippers can rebuild right now but since they can't bottom out but OKC got their pick this next 2 yrs so I agree more on Rob but I think if clippers can go back they should have traded Paul George last year when he has more value and dont trade for harden
100 percent with Rob. Kawhi 2 rings, 2 mvps....Paul George ain't got a damn thing except a podcast. He has ability but no heart whatsoever. He had a million chances to step up and be the man without Kawhi and couldn't deliver. Just looked unmotivated waaay too much. I'm so glad he's gone, he's Philly's problem now!!
paul runs up and down taking the franchise to the first ever WCF appearance in history while kawhi sits and watch. What kawhi two rings doing to help them win
Rob is 100% correct. Pandemic P has been paid over $ 307 million thus far in his career. He accomplished absolutely nothing with the Clippers. Why in the hell would they commit a 4 year max to him. Smh.
Both are right, parker is right on the clippers did right to keep kawhi for this season, try to play him and trade him as soon as you can. They investment to much on both to not get anything. The thunder got rid of his big 3 but not on the same time, you get rid of this team but in the nba is dificult to make a sell like mlb, it has to be a process that take more than one season
Kawhi is not Kobe lmao. Even after Kobe was hurt and wasn’t the same anymore he was still box office and people would go just to see him. Nobody is going “man kawhi is playing I gotta go see”. So should the clippers just waste 3 years to sell a couple extra tickets and then begin the likely 4+ year process of rebuilding the team ? That sounds like backwards business to me
6:03 Shaun King says there's not significant gap between a healthy Kawhi & a healthy Paul George. Football guys talking basketball will generally cause anyone to lose braincells.
This stupid FO got themselves fleeced by trading Batum, RoCo, KJ Martin, Mook expiring contracts, draft picks, and eventually PG for Harden and Tucker. No wonder they never had a clue on building a proper playoff level starting lineup!
The title alone says alot!!!!! The clippers are better with a person who only plays 20 games a season than a guy who plays his heart out?? You old media guys are so out of touch with what's going on
PG is more available than Kawhi but PG is ass. He couldn’t guard Luka or Kyrie and had hard time scoring against role players like PJ Washington and Jones JR. Kawhi is never healthy but when he is on the court he is monster 😂
Clippers have reloaded and got a lot better defensively and work ethic & speed & heart & IQ & SWAGGER. Top 4 teams last playoffs, Minn-Boston- Dallas-Knicks...... with defensive prowess. They wasn't "speciallllllllll offensively, they was just solid. They was SPECIAL DEFENSIVELYYYYYYYY
Shaun King it’s just wrong bro there is a significant gap between Kawhi and and PG Kawhi could’ve gotten pass the Suns by himself and just look when he tried to come back for the Mavs series and everything just revolved around him why? Because he’s just that good when healthy a walking 30 point terminator
Love how rob is basically saying the clippers kept Leonard so they can sell tickets in a new arena...who's going to a game to watch KL play?? This ain't Toronto KL..
As a franchise player Kawhi is not good for an organization. He doesn't promote or participate enough with team or branding. Kawhi is too injury prone and and unreliable. Paul George has been a franchise player and seem more reliable and more professional in that aspect. I don't care how good you are you are not gonna do much being unavailable. Kawhi is like a cross between James Harden and Zion Williamson. He is injury prone especially in or by the playoffs and his potential doesn't overshadow his availability.
I love how Rob gets on players podcasts for the takes they have and then sits up there and says this BS for those trying to justify paying Kawhi and not PG becuase of 2 chips and 2 finals mvp's that have nothing to do with the Clippers current predicament and the reason why yall reach for stats from 5+ years ago is because Kawhi has nothing to show for during his tenure as a Clipper so to justify one and not pay the other is SUPER HYPOCRITICAL and its beyoyng ridiculous considering how much was given away to bring him to the Clippers in the first place so to me at least a sign and trade based on how philly paid him they might've traded for him happily
They are silly for not running it back. Did they just see who won the chip? Tatum and Brown! Who you car argue are younger versions of PG and Kawhi. How did they do it? By continuing to run it back
clippers didnt want to give 4 years to pg or kawhi. gave kawhi 3 years 150. pg wanted 4 years so he offered he would take 3 years and no trade clause or 4 years. obviously cant give pg better deal than kawhi so pg just rejected the 3 year deal they offered him
I agree with Rob. Kawhi got paid, Paul George got paid, they both got hurt all the time and didn't get the job done with the Clippers. I am a Kawhi fan, but I gotta keep it real. They didn't give Ballmer bang for his buck.
No clippers should have traded Kawhi. Kawhi cant stay healthy and it's crazy. Rob Kawhi is not the answer. In his prime kawhi was him and when healthy. But he's never healthy but playing for team usa. But Rob is correct about Podcasts
Rob talks like he really understands every fan 😂 ain’t nobody thinking about Khawi’s Spurs ring where he wasn’t that guy and the ring in Toronto against a Golden State team that was decimated. He barely plays when it matters
I think it was the right decision to move on a least a little. I would take kawhi every day over PG. Now they can try to be deeper and younger. There will be a lot of cap space when Kawhi retires.
Saying 2 years 60 is disrespectful as someone who gets worse when the playoffs come is disrespectful in itself. He legit gets worse and puts up 7 point games in meaningful playoff games, atleast you know with Kawhi if he’s healthy on the court he’s gone ball out, I love PG but over the years he’s shown to be overrated.
Can you imagine Kawhi and AD getting injured in the Olympics and US ends up with Bronze again? Just sit down if you're always hurt, help your team instead.
Yall are smoking something 🤔 Paul George is better than Kawhi... Kawhi has a ring because he was with the Spurs who were nice. Paul George was still beasting Bron going back and forth with him at least with the Pacers and kawhi has another lucky ring in Toronto lucky shot and luckily certain people got injured 🤦🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️💯 other than that Y'ALL wouldn't look at Kawhi the same PERIOD!!!
