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Rocky I-IV 4K UHD Blu-ray Review 

Jeff Rauseo
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The Rocky Knockout Collection on 4K has generated a lot of controversy online, but is it really that bad? Here is my review of Rocky, Rocky II, Rocky III, and Rocky IV on 4K Blu-ray!
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@JeffRauseo
@JeffRauseo Год назад
With all the inevitable comments to come, here’s my final statement on this. Should these mistakes have happened? No. Do they make this a total failure of a release? No. My point is that WB is aware. They’ll do what’s right once they find out what is right, not what the Internet tells them is right. For now, I’m enjoying Rocky in beautiful 4K and loving it. And that’s what’s fun for me.
@200wattstudio8
@200wattstudio8 Год назад
Fair enough, sir. But just be aware there are people who collect physical media and love films and who care about and want the original filmmakers made. To preserve that original sound at least. Include it in every release by default and then go ahead for the remixes for modern consumers. No problem there.
@JeffRauseo
@JeffRauseo Год назад
@@200wattstudio8 I’m with you! I’m just saying I think they’ll fix this one. It’s the one issue I can see being worth a replacement to get right because it is important. I’m speaking on behalf of the average person but also the real film junkies as well so I have to cover both areas. For the average person, this is no issue which I think we agree on
@Blue_The_Huskita
@Blue_The_Huskita Год назад
Thank you l was put of buying Rocky two the steel book edition,alot of reviewers saying the sound was bad.. hence l will be buying the steel book two. Cheers bro
@MrPugheaven
@MrPugheaven Год назад
I think, after watching R1 and R2... this is my take. I agree with you 99% of the time, however, I have to say... with these films... I'd disagree to a certain extent... I think what's disappointed people is expectations... we have had terrible releases for years for some of the biggest sporting films ever released. These films for me, are my "desert island" films... So, watching R1... I just feel surely a full remaster of all of these with a more modern process would have benefitted. I've given my reviews elsewhere but what I found was the difference in scenes... (which could be original source obviously), but some scenes looked great but some were appalling and if that truly is source then this is fine... but it's still disappointing. R2 was deffo a lot better... grain nice, colours fine, some poorer scenes but yeah.... but the sound for me, I was really expecting better sound... in this day and age... and what I've seen with older films and what can be done... I just feel this release is half baked and half assed personally, same old soundtracks which were poor in the first place? Sound in both R1 and R2 in certain scenes sounds like it's been added later and is disjointed (weirdly a bit like in Universal Soldier 4k which was surprising)... some scenes it's open and nice, then others it's echoey... once again is it down to source, probably but I would think a little more effort... a DTS-X or Atmos remaster sound could at least be an options... to port over Bluray sound from what 8 years ago ish? Strikes me as a little lax.... however the issues on Pitch etc, yeah lets not go down that rabbit hole... I didn't really notice it at all and I'm running a 11.2 calibrated system so I think people are being a little pedantic with technicalities rather than "does it sound good"! Could we not have enhanced them? Surely? It just feels like they've done the minimum to get the release out... I'm currently buying the Steel Books as I was so excited and a lot of that excitement has gone... it feels like they could have ALL been better for me... I WILL ADD though... like yourself, did this stop me from enjoying R1 and R2 (awaiting delivery of R3/R4)? NO, not in the slightest these films are iconic and even watching on VHS I love them to bits... but this is where I'm so disappointed that we could've had definitive versions and these for me, while being the best available which they are... just don't feel like we've seen Rocky the best it could ever be? It's like a massive missed opportunity to get the definitive last versions out there and not leave anything on the table.
@chrisburns7979
@chrisburns7979 Год назад
@@JeffRauseo so again your defending mistakes being made? like the issues with arrows release of donnie darko ?
@ericlozen9631
@ericlozen9631 Год назад
Awesome - I saw Rocky (1976) twice in the movie theater in '76. I was just 8 years old. Yes, even young kids got pumped up watching this! Then along came Star Wars, a year later....
@200wattstudio8
@200wattstudio8 Год назад
ROCKY was nominated for an ACADEMY AWARD for sound for a reason. To dismiss the fact that those craftsman did shoddy work is not good. It's an insult to the original filmmakers. It IS a big deal when the label advertise "the original theatrical mono track" when in fact it is a revisionist remix by other people than the original Oscar nominated craftsmen. For physical media, we deserve better.
@JeffRauseo
@JeffRauseo Год назад
That’s the one I could see justifying a disc replacement for. The others, I don’t think so.
@200wattstudio8
@200wattstudio8 Год назад
@@JeffRauseo Fair enough. I still disagree and think theatrical soundtracks are important, but I hear ya. I think it should be included by default. Thankfully, Speilberg spearheaded Universal to include his original mono track on JAWS last two BD releases and the 4K. He made certain discisions in the film for impact (such as the mack truck sound as the shark busted into Orca. the 5.1 replaced it with tinkling glass shattering taking away from the BOOM that had impact).
@JeffRauseo
@JeffRauseo Год назад
@@200wattstudio8 oh they are 100% important. I agree. This was the worst part of this (if it’s true) and the part they should redo. I don’t mean to downplay it. But I just didn’t see it as being “awful”.
@Antimonkat
@Antimonkat Год назад
I just don't get how you could want an upgraded visual experience and yet be mad for not having original mono audio. Like yeah it should be an option....especially if it exists on a dvd or something somewhere, but then just stick with that experience. Having old mono audio but with HDR color grading, sounds pretty revisionist already, pick one. Original experience, or modernized one. I also wonder how many people who want that original audio experience, are using room correction or channel and tone controls in their AVR and altering it anyway, or having the AVR upmix it to multi channel or something.
@Plainview-tu7xn
@Plainview-tu7xn Год назад
​@@Antimonkat They are known for adding new sound effects and everything in some cases. I'm not saying that is the case here, but it has happened in other cases Wanting a movie to look as close to as good as it did when it was released in theater and wanting original audio are not two opposite ideas.
@1970jasand
@1970jasand Год назад
Got my Rocky II yesterday, and honestly, I didn’t know there were issues til I saw it pop up on RU-vid. Thanks for all you do. Really helps out
@MikeVernonProd
@MikeVernonProd Год назад
Honestly I think Rocky deserves a better release than this. This set just seems to be lacking in both the case design, the lack of new 4K scans and upgraded audio tracks, and two films are missing. I think I will stick to the blu-rays for now. Thanks for the honest review.
@Jared_Wignall
@Jared_Wignall Год назад
Overall, I’m happy with the set. I do wish we got the first six in 4K, but perhaps since there’s a work-print of Rocky V that’s better than the theatrical cut floating out there, it’s possible Stallone wants that version out so that the film he wrote and John G. Avildsen directed can be shown in proper quality. Of course he’s also not on the best terms of Irwin Winkler who owns the franchise, so that could be a reason for why it’s just the first four as well as maybe they wanted to test the waters if people actually wanted this collection too. Either way, let’s hope we’ll get V and VI in a collection along with the Creed films. I personally didn’t have any major issues with the sound or anything of the sort, at least none that truly jutted out to me where I’m either demanding a new disc or discs that have all the problems fixed or my money back, but maybe that’s just me. Thanks for the video man!
@thegrease13
@thegrease13 Год назад
The problem is that most people have owned this on VHS, DVD, and blu-ray already. When we buy 4K versions of old movies, we are buying them to have a substantial upgrade.... Not to have same or worse audio.
@robertt9342
@robertt9342 5 месяцев назад
There is diminishing returns for upgrades, however worse should not be an option
@willthorburn1985
@willthorburn1985 Год назад
What I don't like with IV Directors cut...is the change in aspect ratio. It wasn't originally filmed that way so what we have here is two black bars taking up the picture, faces look too zoomed in and even at times cropping out objects and texts (apparent in the newspaper and magazine shots when Rocky wants revenge)
@blackphilipalvarez1305
@blackphilipalvarez1305 Год назад
You do know the aspect ratio change gives you more of a picture which works better for this format? The director’s cut of Rocky IV is a new version, so it should look different.
@willthorburn1985
@willthorburn1985 Год назад
@@blackphilipalvarez1305 no it removed picture. You can see in the ‘Making of’ the whole time Stallone and the editor worked on this version the format was in 1.85:1 widescreen, so that full frame and no black bars. The black bars seemed to be added in at the last minute…I have no idea why, perhaps Stallone wanted this version of Rocky IV to connect with the Creed films more which were filmed in cinema scope 2.35:1
@blackphilipalvarez1305
@blackphilipalvarez1305 Год назад
@@willthorburn1985 what’s your point?
@willthorburn1985
@willthorburn1985 Год назад
@@blackphilipalvarez1305 my point is that it's the opposite of your point with 'giving more picture'. In this instance it's the contrary, it's giving less picture
@blackphilipalvarez1305
@blackphilipalvarez1305 Год назад
@@willthorburn1985 I don’t think you understand how aspect ratios work?
@robertpreskar8233
@robertpreskar8233 Год назад
Here’s the real problem with Rocky 5.1 versus supposed Original Mono. The 5.1 mix, when created, dropped a music cue from the emotional finale of the fight. All previous Blu-rays had this issue with the 5.1 mix. However, they had the correct mono mix, where the music cue was present. Now, because the 4K uses a fold down of the 5.1 mix, the music cue is missing on both. We no longer have the option to listen to the true and correct audio of Rocky.
@bobw1811
@bobw1811 Год назад
I think I'll wait on this one for now. Not for any QC reasons, but because I know myself and I know if there's a more complete set that comes out down the line then I'll have to double dip.
@JendellOverland
@JendellOverland Год назад
I agree with your assessment, the only thing I would like to add is Rocky III was grainy as you mentioned, but the Rocky III footage on Rocky Vs. Drago was crystal clear, and that shows that the footage exists, so they could have done way better visually on the Rocky III disc. I love this collection, and I am happy to own it!
@aaronclick6388
@aaronclick6388 Год назад
I suspect that if it were the standard Blu-ray of Rocky 2 that had audio at the wrong pitch, we probably would have heard about it a long time ago. So, on the assumption that the 4K has the incorrectly pitched audio, I agree that it’s probably not a make or break scenario for the very casual consumer. But what if Rocky is your absolute favorite movie, or even one of your most favorite movies (top 10 or so)? I don’t think it would feel very satisfactory to just settle, to just accept this. I get that is 4K collectors can be nitpicky, but this is supposed to be a premium format. We DO have higher standards for it. It becomes a slippery slope if we begin accepting preventable flaws in the production of these discs. Just because you can point to worse issues elsewhere with 4K discs doesn’t mean we should turn a blind eye to this issue. That’s not how things improve.
@JeffRauseo
@JeffRauseo Год назад
We have no idea what’s right and what’s wrong. We don’t work at Warner Bros. The Bluray could be wrong and no one noticed. It could be right and this is wrong. My point is, nothing improves by breaking out pitchforks either. They’ll just stop making physical media if the online community screams at them for every mistake. We hold them to it, they’re aware. But no need to scream bloody murder.
@themediapreacher8154
@themediapreacher8154 Год назад
I cannot agree, at these prices the discs need to be perfect and they are not. WB NEED TO RECTIFY THIS SITUATION
@u77750
@u77750 Год назад
Thanks Jeff. I heard about the sound issue on Rocky II. I agree with you, I probably would not notice the issue at hand. I’m getting it someday anyway. Like you say about curating your collection, don’t have the spare funds now. Bought a lot of stuff already this year. Keep up the good stuff!
@wright96d
@wright96d Год назад
I usually take the stance that an issue is an issue is an issue, and while I still do in all reality, these sorts of problems that would've resulted in an instant replacement program five years ago, are happening multiple times a year now, and studios just can't afford to do large scale replacements that often. QC needs to be better, and it's baffling to me that last year didn't result in these places beefing up QC.
@JeffRauseo
@JeffRauseo Год назад
Personally, given WB’s track record with audio on other releases - I think they have files mixed up somewhere in their databases. I don’t think it’s intentional what they’re doing. In their eyes, it may all be correct, but then someone loads the wrong file up. They’ll fix it.
@robinanwaldt
@robinanwaldt Год назад
@@JeffRauseo In Germany, when all the Rocky films came out on Blu-ray, Rocky I to V had the same lower pitch issue with the German dubs. It was reported by a multitude of people, yet nothing happened. Then in 2014 when the first Rocky was remastered, they fixed its audio, but left II to V as is, still not even responding to the demands. And now with the 4K set, after people again found the sound to be unfixed, the only statement WB gave is that there’s no plans to change anything. WB certainly may not have made these mistakes on purpose, but they sure don’t give a damn about correcting them.
@pokes986
@pokes986 Год назад
The new director cut of IV was phenomenal and like watching a different movie for the first time
@JeffRauseo
@JeffRauseo Год назад
Totally agree! Best looking one too
@vegeta91287
@vegeta91287 Год назад
Where can i see that version bro?
@HOTD108_
@HOTD108_ Год назад
You WERE watching a different movie. It's a different cut, completely re-edited.
@-Grifter
@-Grifter Год назад
Hi Jeff, I also agree about the size of the packaging. It’s just great when you can free up space for even more movie gold. Congrats on your RU-vid trophy, from one of your fans across the pond. London taaaaan!
@PWFnetwork
@PWFnetwork Год назад
I will buy the loosies. I have a strict no-go policy now for sets that aren’t complete.
@darkzbob1835
@darkzbob1835 Год назад
thanks for a true complet review for the release , did u find the other issues some person said ( One shot in the theatrical cut of Rocky IV apparently opens up to 1.78:1 instead of 1.85:1 (the shot appears at about 10:17 into the film) or not there or not long enough to see it ?
@davi55x
@davi55x Год назад
Good review. Thanks Jeff. Is there any reason that when you are talking about a scene like the golf club ride and the heavy grain that you do not show a clip of that specific scene as reference?
@KennethKralyJr
@KennethKralyJr Год назад
Indeed Jeff though the audio glitches do worry me a bit may hold off on this collection until a recall is sent out / fixed
@kthx1138
@kthx1138 Год назад
Great review, Jeff. I think the reason that Rocky riding in a golf cart with his son shot in Rocky III is grainy is there was a dissolve just preceding it, from the newspaper clipping with Rocky and Thunderlips. This dissolve necessitated an optical film dupe. That shot is not the o-neg, but an interneg. The only way to resolve this is to find the o-neg of those two shots and digitally recomposite them.
@JeffRauseo
@JeffRauseo Год назад
Interesting! Good info - thank you!
@briantanner5478
@briantanner5478 Год назад
Thank you Mike.
@kraughton30
@kraughton30 Год назад
My biggest issue was the packaging. Not sure if the damages are from factory to distributor or from the distributor (amazon) to the postal service. Mine arrived with a broken case and I have seen others report their copies also arrived broken.
@kevinrobertbrown2351
@kevinrobertbrown2351 Год назад
Hey Jeff, Great review but, there's one thing you have missed, with the Rocky vs Drago cut 4k bluray. The new Dolby Atmos remastered soundtrack is missing!! It only has a DTS HD 5.1, as the 4k Apple TV movie stream has the Atmos track..so this is a big mistake from Warner Bros..so they need to do a disc replacement for sure..for Rocky 4, Directors cut.
@Mr.77776
@Mr.77776 Год назад
I'm happy with my blu rays. 20.99 and you get all 6 movies. Great quality to boot.
@JeffRauseo
@JeffRauseo Год назад
Totally fair!
@interdimensionalsteve8172
@interdimensionalsteve8172 Год назад
Just gotta wait for the 4k pack to hit that price - eventually it'll go on a big sale just like everything else 4k. Never buy 4k at full price!
@Mr.77776
@Mr.77776 Год назад
@@interdimensionalsteve8172 I'm not waiting. I'm completely satisfied with the blu ray set. The 4K might come in a tad clearer but not enough to make me waste money on it...
@DangerousDevilOfficial
@DangerousDevilOfficial Год назад
Kind of a bummer that these movies did not have a new transfer. And have the same audio… I wouldn’t be surprised to see these remastered in 4K with new transfers and mixes 4-5 years down the road… I think I am gonna wait for now. Blu Ray is fine. I may pick up part 4 when they sell these separately to get the director’s cut. But otherwise, I wanna wait… 🤷‍♂️
@heartofalegend
@heartofalegend Год назад
Speaking as a total nerd, here, that's why I enjoy getting the digital files that you mentioned. If something needs be brightened or sounds need to be pitch-corrected, or whatever it may be, a file lets you go in and customize those things till your heart's content, using just a basic video editing program and perhaps a slightly more sophisticated sound editing program. I don't have to choose between R4 and R4 DC, because like several other fans out there, I combined the best of both to make the most satisfying R4 experience I could possibly ask for and I love it. Files are the way to go. All of that said, thank you for explaining the differences and potential issues to expect when watching the 4K collection. It was so helpful! I look forward to checking out some of your other videos, my friend.
@Galgomite
@Galgomite Год назад
Thank you for commenting on the Rocky II audio. The honest-to-goodness way forward for movies like this is to include a mastered-for-VHS version of the film as a bonus feature! No joke, it would boost sales enormously.
@mattdavis5603
@mattdavis5603 Год назад
Why would that fix these issues? Genuinely curious.
@Galgomite
@Galgomite Год назад
@@mattdavis5603 Reviewer was saying that people were comparing audio to their memories from previous releases, which for all we know was incorrect in the first place. My point is that well-worn movies like this have the impossible job of having a modern remaster while sparking all the nostalgic feelings that came with watching them 30 years ago, perhaps on a snowy 13" TV or VHS tape. .
@purplehat2989
@purplehat2989 Год назад
Rocky IV theatrical cut also switches aspect ratio from 1.85:1 to 1.78:1 and back again breifly.
@MitchellRoss
@MitchellRoss Год назад
I love your videos and it’s interesting hearing you talk about the quality differences. I have an original copy deathly hallows part 2 blu ray and have always thought it to be grainy in the dark scenes. If I bought a new copy blu ray release would it be different quality do you think? Or go 4K. Thanks love physical media
@bradybarrett5354
@bradybarrett5354 Год назад
Deathly hallows part 2 4K looks so much better. The night scenes are so much better with the hdr.
@MitchellRoss
@MitchellRoss Год назад
@@bradybarrett5354 thanks! I might look at getting one then! It’s always bugged me how fuzzy those darker scenes look
@jasoncarmona4882
@jasoncarmona4882 8 месяцев назад
Your channel is very informative. You've definitely saved me for some poor purchase decisions. Looking forward to the Rocky 4 dc!
@uhoh7541
@uhoh7541 Год назад
Think you got your sound fixed, my man! Was able to enjoy this video at a typical volume level- way to fix quick!
@metalgrinch
@metalgrinch Год назад
I really wish they did a full steel case for the 4 films the same way they did for the Rambo series
@jayDee92133
@jayDee92133 Год назад
I almost got this today at best buy but I still have the heavyweight collection that released on Blu-ray I'll get it eventually but I don't wanna spend $65 for it.
@robertpreskar8233
@robertpreskar8233 Год назад
Also, the missing music cue from Rocky, is present in the 5.1 mix of Rocky II, which recaps the end of the fight from Rocky.
@jbird_inc
@jbird_inc Год назад
I have a theory about the pitch issues with Rocky II: basically back in the dvd era ‘pal’ discs (region 2 discs) had an issue due to encoding were audio was 4% higher. To correct this sometimes studios lowered the pitch to avoid this issue.
@rhmedia1701
@rhmedia1701 Год назад
Hi Jeff, if the audio and aspect ratio issues don't bother you and the average consumer that's fine however if these faults are not highlighted then it will ultimately lead to the studios lowering there quality control and subsequently releasing below par products. I love the fact they include the original theatrical audio on some releases as most times the 5.1 tracks add sounds and effects which simply do not fit the sound mix which the sound editor of the time created. So if its advertised as having it then it should be there and if not it should be corrected. Ultimately if your happy with this release (and I love your honesty) that's fine personally i'm not and many others won't be either and will stick with my Blu-ray release until its corrected and the inevitable 6 film box set arrives later this year.
@frenchbaguetteoui
@frenchbaguetteoui Год назад
lol
@mattdavis5603
@mattdavis5603 Год назад
@@ProfessorEchoMedia What is the most faithful release of Vertigo? I didn't know that 4K disc was severely revised.
@Gurminder_S
@Gurminder_S Год назад
So a disc with audio errors is okay but a disc like Heat that’s true to the directors intent is bad? Umm okay…
@JeffRauseo
@JeffRauseo Год назад
It’s almost like people have different opinions on different releases.
@Gurminder_S
@Gurminder_S Год назад
@@JeffRauseo audio errors aren’t a matter of opinion though are they?
@JeffRauseo
@JeffRauseo Год назад
@@Gurminder_S it’s my opinion on whether an issue is worth yelling about and getting pitchforks out for. In this case, no. I don’t think it’s worth that.
@Gurminder_S
@Gurminder_S Год назад
@@JeffRauseo so if the problem hadn’t been reported to the studio as “it’s not that bad” and the studio decided not to do anything about it? Is it acceptable for a 4k release that costs in the region of £60 to have errors? Where do we draw the line of a release not being that bad?
@jemfilms
@jemfilms Год назад
Hey Jeff, just a heads up, but you might want to edit out that notification on screen at around 6 minutes in. Don’t know if that has any personal information visible.
@SamLovesMovies25
@SamLovesMovies25 Год назад
Even if these audio issues might seem "not that noticeable" to some people, IMO it is still an issue that should not be present in a premium product like a 4K box set being sold to collectors, there needs to be better quality control than that. Furthermore, more audiophile-minded people or people who love these films and are intricately familiar with them ARE going to be more likely to really notice this issue and be really bothered by it, even if the "average consumer" would not, and again this is supposed to be a premium-level product. For example, my favorite album of all time is A Night at the Opera by Queen. If I purchased what was supposed to be a premium version of that album, and it was pitched wrong, even very slightly, I would *absolutely* notice and be upset by that (and in that case, someone like me would be the kind of person that that particular product would be catered to)
@JeffRauseo
@JeffRauseo Год назад
My point is we don’t know if it’s pitched wrong yet. Let’s wait and see before the pitchforks come out
@channeltastic
@channeltastic Год назад
​@@JeffRauseo "Pitch"forks... Dunno if that was intentional but it's brilliant either way. 👍🏾
@DanielRamirez-md9ry
@DanielRamirez-md9ry Год назад
@@JeffRauseo the only way to know whos wrong, is to hear a 35mm print or a 16mm print for cinemas. but as far as i know, the pitch is wrong because they used PAL masters already pitch corrected, and then to adapt it to 24p, they pitched corrected again! causing slow pitch
@robertt9342
@robertt9342 5 месяцев назад
@@DanielRamirez-md9ry. Serious question, have a PAL spec film?
@willrussell01
@willrussell01 Год назад
Does the 4K enhanced version of the original Rocky IV theatrical cut have the same lighter blue-ish tint in the final fight like Rocky Vs. Drago does?
@vestrebio250
@vestrebio250 Год назад
Thanks for a good review. Will definitely buy this set now, release date here is marts the 23th, so looking forward to see them all again.
@r.graves5531
@r.graves5531 Год назад
People with the "not that bad" mentality tend to forget they're really just saying it's not that good.
@jonathonkrause1402
@jonathonkrause1402 Год назад
I’m disappointed that the Rocky 4K movies did not get individual slipcover releases in the US. I’m holding off on buying Rocky 4K for now to see if we get individual slipcover releases.
@physoni
@physoni Год назад
Never gonna happen.
@uhoh7541
@uhoh7541 Год назад
I canceled my pre order based off someone else's negative review. Jeff's video here has me rethinking this, but does anyone think the underwhelmed reception of this release will lead to a cheaper price soon?
@mowgli9064
@mowgli9064 Год назад
Hi Jeff, I bought the 4K Rocky collection, I’m now just watching 4 the directors cut, so far I’ve enjoyed these 4K versions really happy to have these in my collection I’ve no issues with visual or audio quality as these are the best you can get in my opinion so hey ho alls good happy dayz 😉😁
@chrisfratz
@chrisfratz Год назад
In regards to audio pitch while I haven't seen any of the Rocky movies so I can't weigh in on that I can at least tell you that I'm able to notice the pitch difference between a modern release of a movie compared to an old pal DVD release from Europe. Long explanation short, European TVs ran at 50 Hz so when movies would eventually be released on the home formats over in Europe where they use pal instead of NTSC, they would release the movie at 25 frames per second. And because the movie is slightly faster The audio would also be at a slightly higher pitch. I never noticed it with dialogue but whenever there is background music I can tell immediately. Whenever I watch back one of those DVDs what I end up doing with VLC is going to the audio effects section and turning the pitch down by about 0.8 semitones which corrects the audio pitch. And I'm sure I'm not alone and being able to here pitch issues like that.
@chrisfratz
@chrisfratz Год назад
In fact, when I watched Atlantis the lost empire on Netflix for the first time since I was a kid I noticed the the music sounded better than I remembered so I went back to my old DVD (for additional context as a kid I would watch the English audio track on my DVD copy which was purchased in Germany which is where my family lived at the time) which in had to play a computer because my family had moved back to the US at that point and yeah, I found the pitch was higher on the European DVD release. I know It's not entirely related to the Rocky discussion but I figured an anecdote from my childhood experiences could offer a different perspective.
@talkingben5190
@talkingben5190 Год назад
Yeah. Sadly I always find it noticeable and one of my favourite shows Buffy sadly has arguably the worst HD remaster in existence on Disney so I watch the DVDs, but it can bug me when I notice people's voices higher and especially songs going faster and higher than I remember
@chrisfratz
@chrisfratz Год назад
@@talkingben5190 honestly, I would be surprised if my old DVD copies of movies are part of the reason why my ears are sensitive to pitch.
@MarcusMaximus909
@MarcusMaximus909 Год назад
Hey Jeff you never mentioned in the video which rocky 4 do you prefer original or directors
@johnsuggs8810
@johnsuggs8810 Год назад
I’m Totally fine with my laserdisc versions of these films. I literally don’t see any difference between the 4K and my laserdisc copies. IMO
@DanielRamirez-md9ry
@DanielRamirez-md9ry Год назад
go to see eye care.
@MrRoro582
@MrRoro582 Год назад
I just did a price match at Best Buy for this set, AMAZON had the set for $53.52.
@micjoseph6250
@micjoseph6250 Год назад
Being delivered next week. I'm so grateful for the Rocky 4 directors cut in this collection as I have not seen it yet and can't wait.
@EpicGwar
@EpicGwar Год назад
Are you gonna pick up puppet master 3? Would like to see your review before buying it since it’s very expensive wanna make sure it’s worth it
@tonydew440
@tonydew440 Год назад
I was expecting a full rocky 1-6 4k boxset release, I was hoping for a limited edition one. Was thinking they could make Rocky's boxing glove, have the 4k dics in like a set with it. It seems they don't really think like that on some franchises. Like Hellraiser has the scarlett set and pinhead statue. Yet Rocky on VHS, Dvd, Blu-Ray and now 4k, just have normal boxsets. Nothing major or extra with them, its a shame really. Hopefully we may see something like that in the future.
@TheCoolerVergil
@TheCoolerVergil Год назад
For someone who has never seen these films, is this a good way to watch them?
@brandonrowsell7989
@brandonrowsell7989 Год назад
Thank u! I've watched rocky 1 to 3 and I don't see a major problem with this set. It's totally overblown.
@jncoursey5509
@jncoursey5509 Год назад
Thanks Jeff. Been listening to you for a few years now. I'm undecided on the set. But your review kinda makes me wanna go for it.
@j.m.4858
@j.m.4858 Год назад
I'm really looking forward to seeing these in 4k, and, going off of what you're saying, I'm thinking I'll be happy enough with them. Great video as always man.
@natethegreatreviews
@natethegreatreviews Год назад
Where can I watch the directors cut if I don't want to buy this collection?
@purplehat2989
@purplehat2989 Год назад
I'm pretty sure only the first film was restored in 4K back in 2014? The rest are all new scans. The HDR grades were all new though.
@johnhayes4700
@johnhayes4700 Год назад
Just Bought the Rocky Collection on 4k and watched the First Two Movies with 5.1 Audio ? Not to be a Winger but I had to Turn up my Sound Bar due to the Dialogue being Very Low , But the Music was OK. Not Good when you buy a Premium movie Set and you cannot hear them Speak. Usually my Sound Bar sits on 13 , But with Rocky I needed to Crank it up to the High 20s to hear Dialogue . Apart from that I enjoyed this 4k Re release . Once again thanks to Jeff for his Channel and Reviews , Keep up the Good Work .
@InfectiousGroovePodcast
@InfectiousGroovePodcast Год назад
I wouldn't mind picking this up at a discount but I'm sure there's going to be a complete set someday, so I will most likely wait.
@saint6563
@saint6563 Год назад
OST - Original Soundtrack is just as important as OAR - Original Aspect Ratio to true Film Fans.
@leonardomaia8412
@leonardomaia8412 Год назад
from what I have seen, it might be my tv but it doesn't seem to have a very good picture quality..... sometimes it looks like they were shot in super 16mm, and the colors look really desaturated and dull.... rocky VI looked the best tho! (the directors cut) the colors and the contrast looked REALLY good. Wish the rest looked as good
@JeffRauseo
@JeffRauseo Год назад
The rest just won’t ever look that good unfortunately. They weren’t filmed in a way that would really help much. But if they do remaster them all, they could be slightly better. Slightly.
@leonardomaia8412
@leonardomaia8412 Год назад
@@JeffRauseo I hope someday they can give them a better restoration/remaster. It's probably not possible like you said, but at least better colors xD
@KarimKhan-ys8oc
@KarimKhan-ys8oc Год назад
My takeaway ist this: you want to get a second player for side-by-side comparisons. It makes a different to switch ports than discs.
@jebo4jc
@jebo4jc Год назад
I can see both sides of this discussion. I agree with the collectors and enthusiasts who are holding WB to a high standard, and holding them accountable for misrepresenting the features of these discs. I can also see Jeff's point - just enjoy the movies! For me, I'll probably pick up Rocky IV steelbook at Best Buy. Maybe scoop up some of the others if they hit a discount.
@lobsterwhisperer7932
@lobsterwhisperer7932 3 месяца назад
true the majority who buy these are not connoisseurs, they just aren't fussed with minor issues..for them i don't think they notice any differences...my cousin for example is happy with his Rocky DVD's from mid 2000's
@chuckhagen1612
@chuckhagen1612 Год назад
Not even a huge fan Rocky films in general, but totally love your reviews non the less. Big thanks Brother!!!!
@MyFireVideos
@MyFireVideos Год назад
Thank you. This makes me want to wait for a sale/keep my blu rays, or just try and get IV Director’s Cut 4K by itself.
@robertwilson9528
@robertwilson9528 Год назад
Thank you for your knowledge and hard work/effort in making these videos
@devonbrooks246
@devonbrooks246 Год назад
Jeff, you convinced me on this. I heard so much crap about this release and if you say that you had not noticed anything on your system, then I will take your word for it.
@TroyUlysses
@TroyUlysses Год назад
From a man who grew-up with 4% PAL speed up... Everything on 4K seems slower 😄
@JustinFeyereisen
@JustinFeyereisen Год назад
I'm a big Rocky fan, but think I'll hold of for now. I already own the blurays and although I loved Rocky vs Drago the price of the set and the exclusion of Rocky Balboa really sour this set for me. I'll pick it up if ever gets around $35 or just wait and see if a complete boxset or an individual release of Rocky vs Drago ever gets released.
@AlexWalkerSmith
@AlexWalkerSmith Год назад
I work in audio, and you're likely talking about playback speed, which does affect pitch. You're right that most people can't identify that the playback speed is 1-2% different, but it still subconsciously affects their overall enjoyment. In addition to affecting the pitch, it also affects pacing, and the "brightness" of the audio (like when you adjust the treble on your stereo to get a "brighter" or "duller" sound). This is actually a mixing trick I use to my advantage often. It's subtle enough that they don't know exactly what's different, but it changes their opinion on the mix drastically. All that said, I'm the kind of person who notices a 1-2% change in playback speed, and it drives me crazy 😅
@josue.saldivar
@josue.saldivar Год назад
I'll stick to my Heavyweight collection in Blu-Ray until a full collection is assembled in 4k. I figure that by 2026 (being the 50th anniversary) will be a good time to release them.
@donatrandom
@donatrandom Год назад
I’m only buying it because of the Rocky IV directors cut I’m happy. I saw it in theaters when I did forever, my all-time favorite in the franchise. And don’t forget in a couple weeks that new steelbook comes out. !!
@systemmonitor5295
@systemmonitor5295 Год назад
Seems absolutely ridiculous to release a boxset from a SIX film series and only include FOUR of them. I don't care what the reasons are - whether it's to release alongside Creed III or because Stallone is tinkering on a Rocky V recut - this is dumb as hell. Add on top of this the strange issues with the release (like the fake mono track & the changing aspect ratios in Rocky IV) and really, this is a nonsense release. 4K is firmly established as a premium product for the serious collector. This is NOT the format to under-deliver on.
@JeffRauseo
@JeffRauseo Год назад
The changing aspect ratio is one 5 second scene. It’s not nearly the worst mistake we’ve ever seen. It’s barely noticeable in real time.
@draketafoya3343
@draketafoya3343 Год назад
But why is it there?
@deuceb0i
@deuceb0i Год назад
Just watched the Stallone Cut of IV (4k sony projector on 110inch screen). The Grain overwhelming. The newer scenes the grain was some time unbearable. And the additional 7 minutes of rocky 3 recap in the intro was so buzzy. The movie itself was a good change in tone.
@millar876
@millar876 Год назад
im going to pick this one up. ive been wanting to got hold of the rocky movies for a while, but for some reason haven't managed. As for pitch differences, it could be 60Hz regions vs 50 Hz regions. because the 24fps of movies fits better in 60Hz and sometimes, for 50Hz regions they just speed the 24 up to 25 which makes it slightly higher and faster. id forgotten about it until i got some star trek DVDs that were PAL encoded at 25fps and although that's how i grew up watching them, they still sounded "off" compared to 24fps streaming versions, but im willing to take that tradeoff for the higher pixel count on uk DVDs (576p vs 480 for US) even though its much rarer in blu rays it can still happen.
@DanielRamirez-md9ry
@DanielRamirez-md9ry Год назад
the release is the same all over the world. The issue here is that the sound sources were PAL masters ALREADY pitch corrected, and some dum pitch corrected again!, causing a slow pitch!. Rocky II all audio tracks suffers from this
@patricklena9307
@patricklena9307 Год назад
I'm pretty happy with my purchase of this set my only complaint individual packaging packaging and slip covers. I don't like the artwork on this set but it's nothing that a 5x7 of the original rocky 4 poster. Trimmed it down just a little bit and slid into the cover of the case can't fix and that's what I did. Apart from that rocky four is the only one I have watched and it looked and sounded wonderful.
@themovievault
@themovievault Год назад
I agree Jeff, some of the audio complaints are just being picky, I watched them all and I had nonissues with any of them.
@davidstring8301
@davidstring8301 Год назад
You're 100% right. I did get a deal on eBay. I just bought a brand new one for $38. Can't wait!
@Bowler126
@Bowler126 8 месяцев назад
Hi Jeff, After watching this video I will keep my 2014 DVD of all the Rocky series. Because you aren't admitting the DVDs are better than the BLURAYS or the 4Ks. Looking forward to your next video.
@lunaracc914
@lunaracc914 Год назад
how can you call an incorrect pitch on the English tracks of Rocky 2 a "minor" error?
@JeffRauseo
@JeffRauseo Год назад
Because you’d never even know. That seems pretty minor to me
@lunaracc914
@lunaracc914 Год назад
@@JeffRauseo I would lol
@leninfranco9328
@leninfranco9328 Год назад
jeff, will rocky vs drago director`s cut will be included in the single release?
@davefilms345
@davefilms345 Год назад
No I doubt very much this will get a single release, we would have had it by if this was the case. The DC will only be included in the boxset if you want a physical copy
@leninfranco9328
@leninfranco9328 Год назад
@@davefilms345 im talking about the steel case i pre ordered of rocky 4
@thechairman74
@thechairman74 Год назад
Unless the audio actually stops in one of more channels, flips side-to-side, radically changes volume level, or in any way disrupts your viewing experience, I don't think it's a big deal or even a little deal.
@David-xc5pg
@David-xc5pg Год назад
Yeah this is first I’ve heard of it; and honestly had a great time with my boxset. Been whole since saw the older movies and for their age; they looked great. Plus physical copy or Rocky vs Drago is reason alone to buy the set.
@screamingeekmedia
@screamingeekmedia Год назад
I agree about the issues being blown out of proportion. But at the same time, they were not great. I did feel that the first one was incredible. For me, the second was the weakest transfer. I did not notice those audio pitch issues. There was one spot in #1 that was off. But nothing to complain about. My opinion is this was a cash grab for Warner to get these out as Creed III was coming out to theaters. Like you mentioned about the Director's cut looking better, shows that they didn't put the effort into every transfer.
@davefilms345
@davefilms345 Год назад
Il wait, they will release a 1-6 Boxset later on the yr I have this massive feeling they will. I'm not going to double dip here
@andrewattenboroughtwothumb4697
I thought that most were to grainy and most were ok interesting review as always Jeff
@marlonrobalino
@marlonrobalino Год назад
I noticed the pitch issue with rocky 2 pretty early on. That is completely unacceptable and I'm annoyed that your really disregarding and downplaying it pretty bad. You've even made videos in the past calling out studios on poor quality control which is super weird that your not on them like you should. This is what's going to kill the physical media in general if these studios don't get there shit together. On top of that, every disc has some sort of issue and your saying that's blowing it out of proportion? Come on Jeff we shouldn't be complacent about this.
@pieterbalk-ht7kq
@pieterbalk-ht7kq Год назад
It becomes quite boring and annoying that so many (major) 4K releases have issues these days @films at home I stick to my 2014 (?) boxset with all movies on blu ray which are (still) really nice, and buy the IV directors cut seperately.
@skynet247
@skynet247 Год назад
Ill wait for the full set to release, …….tell Jamie Bright we said hello!
@professorabronsius
@professorabronsius Год назад
Wow! Complete review of the Rockies! Thank you so much 🇨🇱
@RobsShinyDex
@RobsShinyDex Год назад
Im going to wait to get this when there's a sale!
@connormccance1241
@connormccance1241 Год назад
Thank you for the review! Can’t wait for 5 and 6
@Nick-4K
@Nick-4K Год назад
The only steelbooks I bought new in a long time
@vinnie1135
@vinnie1135 Год назад
Hey Big Jeff, I understand where you're coming from because Warner Brothers sent you a free $65 Rocky 4k uhd Knockout collection. No big deal when you're getting free physical media 👍🏿
@dragons69
@dragons69 Год назад
Nice shirt, Jeff! The Black Dog is awesome
@johnathantownsley6170
@johnathantownsley6170 Год назад
Thanks for checking it out Jeff 👍🏻
@jefferyberg2850
@jefferyberg2850 Год назад
Thanks for the great review I have this and can't wait to see the director's cut of Rocky 4 my favorite of them all.
@mauriciojavier72
@mauriciojavier72 Год назад
I did not get a Director's Cut Rocky IV digital code!! My code gave the the 4 theatrical cuts on Vudu. How did you get the director's cut on digital? Great awesome content by the way!!
@JeffRauseo
@JeffRauseo Год назад
No? It’s listed on the sheet isn’t it? Unless I read it wrong. I don’t redeem them myself so I don’t know.
@outdoorsjoe
@outdoorsjoe Год назад
Check again because they added it now. You should have it digitally as well.
@mauriciojavier72
@mauriciojavier72 Год назад
@@outdoorsjoe You're absolutely right!!! It's there now. Thank you for the info!!! Very much appreciated!!
@outdoorsjoe
@outdoorsjoe Год назад
@@mauriciojavier72 happy to help. Enjoy!
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