agreed this is where karate....tae kwon do....and other forms had their weakness....what do you do when u hit the ground...its still fighting....as much as i love martial arts...the classical mess comes to mind as state by bruce lee...lee would have loved mma...i think that is the point he tried to get across
Robert S it's a mistake to indicate that his age may have been a factor as to why he lost during the Gracie fight. He was simply outmatched by a superior fighter regardless of how much you like him. This demonstration is embarrassing because he's dealing with a brown belt cooperative student of his and...he was supposedly a grandmaster at that time. Who on this planet promotes a person to grandmaster at such a young age? Not impressive at all, this floor show is. I'd like to see it work on someone who is trying to resist him.… You know, like what we can expect on the street if we tried this theatrical routine of his.
this shht is hilarious!! my dude is like: OWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!! OUCHHHHHHHHH!!!! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....AHHHHHH!!!!! I guess screaming is his form of "tap out", lol. And the expression on Ron's face when he snapped his neck @ 2:32 was PRICELESS, lol.
So basically, your flexibility has to be on point to be one of his advanced students. Otherwise, something would've snapped off five times over by now.
How come all that technique didn't work on Royce Gracie? Too complicated to have any real effect on an opponent who is actually fighting back. It may work on a passive resistor. Van Clief found out real quick that his style was innefective, and that he was no match against someone with real world fighting experience.
It wouldn't have mattered if it was 85 or 94. The results would've been the same. VanClief has no skills on the ground. VanClief's techniques will work against a passive resistor. Somebody with a fighting skill set (freestyle, Muay, Thai, Judo, etc) it would not work. He's a tournament/point fighter. There is a big difference between point fighting, stand up and MMA. What works for one will not necessarily work with the other. The training for each is totally different.
