Techno & guitars: a technique you should know 

🙏🏻❤️ love reading this, thank you!!!

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Monolink and System 7 are coming up in several comments, am curious to have a listen!

@@OscarUnderdog Also check out Darkside if you liked the two. I think these might not only "prove you wrong" but might also change your taste in techno a little - at least it did for me. Would love to hear what you thought about Monolink in particular, might not be punk enough for u tho :)

Agreed

he got one with rumble already, you just add the AMP and done ;-)

Same! The industrial techno one was a hell of a ride, loved it!

Electric guitar can fit very well with electronic sounds. For instance, in a more electronica than techno area there are musics by Trentemøller like "Never fade" or "November" featuring post-punk guitar and bass. And there are guitarists who play trance music on guitar, with the help of a delay, I always find it impressive... Moreover the guitar nowadays has evolved a lot, there are so many weird effect pedals that electric guitar is now almost like another analog synth actually. I also think that ambient guitar textures could be great in an ambient techno or dub techno environment.

Listen to Internal Fault by Voicecoil. He adds guitars to his sound and it's quite good. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jbgqSbx8weM.html My sound is very similar.

Yeah I was thinking about this I loved seeing him show that in a video I saw

@H Hope-Carter I'm guessing we might have seen the same video ;-) He seems to involve guitars a little more in some of his more recent pieces too: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--EUeJUBMYc8.html

The above PF track is actually quite reminiscent of the old Room 506 track, Drop Out, which also uses guitars ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OezgPqYdM8k.html

@@riftaudio wow yeah those are really good examples. He really went for the guitar on that one

I agree. They have managed to write some fine music whilst integrating guitars and staying true to their keyboard/electronic sound.

I think in Ramstein as an EDM band as well

Thanks for reminding me!

​@Pete Testube Yeah, I think I must've written this comment when I was half asleep. Basically, you plug a distorted guitar into the Aux Audio In of your synth, then use the synths onboard step sequencer (that's clocked to your DAW) as an audio gate. This technique was heavily used by bands like The Shamen (Move Any Mountain main riff) and System 7. I used to use an old Korg EA-1.

Listen to 6ejou, industrial hard techno / hardcore have been doing it for a few years now

@@Zorrr yea thats why I asked I wanna know how he does it 😂🙌

@@bmt_techno It's fairly easy but it really starts with a good kick sample, use the same kick sample low pass it / band pass the low frequencies, add a reverb with short decay (100% wet, no dry signal), add your AMP of choice (maybe add distortion as well) low pass again and cut out sub frequencies to remove mud, then sidechain it to the kick (either by panning or by volume, your choice). Same goes for the mid-range/high-end rumble you usually hear but instead do a low cut, add a reverb again with 100% wet no dry, add your amp and maybe some distortion to get rid of the more wet sound, high pass and sidechain. That's all there is to it. Though make sure to remove low mid frequencies since adding those with the rumble tends to add a lot of mud in the mid-range.

@@Zorrr fantastic mate thanks very much - i'll be sure to try this soon! I do already have a lot of industrial sounding kicks and rumble kicks from hard techno sample packs - would these be deemed a 'good kick sample' for specifically sound design? Or would a much less processed kick be suitable? I will experiment of course, but I'm just curious on your thoughts

@@bmt_techno For sound design these more processed kicks are definitely a tad bit overkill, though you could just do a little less processing and or modify the sample in a way the agressive rumble you're looking for doesn't intervere with the original sample or take away from the kick (for example, you could shorten the kick so u only have the punch of it, and add a rumble to it via processing yourself) I prefer to work with less processed punchy kicks which I then layer with the rumbles and one or maybe more "punch" layers where I take the same kick sample (or different ones) high-pass them and distort them to add more punch in the mid-range to them. In the end it's all up to your own ears to decide what you like though- there's no one way to do this "right". Don't forget music is an art-form along the way. People learning new methods to produce tend to overlook the artistic part of making music and end up making stuff they barely enjoy themselves simply because they don't allow themselves the creative freedom to experiment

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Also Guitar rig! Works well on vocals for epic megaphone type effects too

Monolink and System 7 are coming up in several comments, am curious to have a listen!

or you can do like surgeon did in Surgeon - Krautrock song and trash guitar into doom so its unwanted realness does not exist anymore

@@OscarUnderdog Kerala Dust is another group that finds a really happy medium with the techno and guitar sound (for me!)

Monolink and System 7 are coming up in several comments, am curious to have a listen!

Wicked album, but I distinctly remember at the time it came out it was critically panned for having trad. guitar work in it. :)

@@airfixx_8952 just goes to show music critics don’t know much!

@@easterislandhead9579 - Oh indeed. I've always preferred to forge my own opinion on things. However, I can understand how some are put off by trad. sounds in Techno, IDM, DnB etc. as listeners are often seeking to explore previously unfamiliar 'territories' in sound....... A bit like some people's aversion to vocals; they 'ground' what what is otherwise anticipated to be an 'otherworldly' experience. As far as Landcruising goes; the tracks are no means spoiled for me, but I would enjoy them even more if Carl had maintained the synthy approach to solos that he used on tracks like Desire, At Les and the rest of his thoroughly under-rated 2nd album.

classic: The Delta - As A Child I Could Walk On The Ceiling

Can't believe you'd bring up Vicious Delicious album guitars and not mention Heavyweight!

@@MattDoesSound I guess the track didn't feel "technoish" enough? :D

Agreed!

😂 had to google that, thanks