Hello! I am planning on building a PC for solidworks and simulation mainly. What gpu would be better between a Quadro P2000 or RTX A2000? And if going for the A2000 do you recommend going for 12gb version, considering difference on prices? The other components to pair it are i7-12700K, 32gb RAM Ddr4 with a z790 atx motherboard. Thanks
Hey, I'm about to graduate from my honours degree in Industrial Design and so am looking for a heavy device capable of taking me into my first few use of professional work, I also work as a graphic designer, in this case would you opt for a A2000 or 3080 Ti? I'm looking at the HP Fury with an A2000, but the MSI GP66 has an option with the 3080ti, however that takes away from the fact that its a gaming laptop and not a mobile workstation, any advice would be appreciated :)
Hello and thanks for the info, but i have a query: would you suggest to go for rtx 3050 with i5 12th gen H series or for i7 rtx A1000 with 12th gen H series at approximately same price for CAD? It would be a great help to me if you answered, thank you.
Hello, I want to first start off by saying this is definitely the most informative and clear videos relating Solidworks and graphics cards. I was hoping to purchase the components to build my own computer however I have no idea what steps I need to take. I was thinking of building it around the new Nvidia RTX A4000, I was going to go with the Nvidia Quadro RTX 4000 but I figured the newer the better. Anyways I would appreciate any guidance I could get. I look forward to your reply. Regards, GG
Hi Gaith, thanks so much for the feedback! Really glad you enjoyed it and found it informative. There's quite a big jump in performance from the RTX 4000 to the RTX A4000, but you may not need the additional GPU power and your budget could be better allocated elsewhere in the build. I'd only go with the A4000 if the rest of the system is already full of high quality and high performance parts, or you won't really be able to appreciate the higher performance. While checking pricing, I'd start with a spec like i7 12700K, 32GB RAM, 500GB PCIe 4.0 SSD, RTX 4000. These would be my priorities before deciding to go with the A4000: 1. Power Supply Unit - Must be stable and reliable, ~750W 80 Plus Gold from a reputable brand 2. Motherboard - Z690 for overclocking, must have good VRMs and heatsinks 3. CPU Cooler - Appropriate cooling capacity for overclocked 12700K (at least 240mm water cooler or high end air cooler 4. CPU - Main factor for performance in most CAD software. Could I afford an i9 12900K? 5. RAM - Must be enough for my projects. Do I need 64GB RAM? 6. SSD - Is 500GB enough for my files? Do I need 1TB? Once I know these are all sorted, it's worth it to consider the more powerful GPU, if it's within budget. Thanks again, and I hope this was helpful :)
Hi, I want to build a workstation mainly for Solidworks. I have decided to build it around a Nvidia RTX a2000 and was wondering what are the recommended components that I need to support the GPU. I want a really good computer I’m done with lagging solidworks :)
Your info was correct .The RTX A2000 is fine for solid works . I built intel i9 12900kf w/64gb ddr5 RAM and rtx a4000 . The a4000 is definitely more than is needed for solid works . Even on large assemblies (1000 parts) with detail set to high I can’t slow the thing down . 5 large assemblies open in sep windows at once and it doesn’t miss a beat . I still get inaccurate results on transparency settings . When working top down placing features on parts after mated to assembly , I need translucent to see holes underneath. Still a problem .erratic results .
I working in Siemens NX. Will good A2000 for modeling of cars and airplanes than gtx 1660? In my situation i have moment in which curves transformed in figure from lines.
will this gpu work in a older pc? like a dell optiplex i7 4770, I know it might not be able to use all of it's power. but need a low profile card for my sff dell xe2 and I can buy this card rtx a2000 6gb for $300 and the gpu most say to get is $250 for a rtx 1650 super low profile. so only 50 bucks more if it'll work be happy to get it. but was wondering if anything might stop it from working with my dell optiplex 4770 sff xe2?
Great video, very informative. I’m currently putting a build together with a i9 13900k and 32gb ddr5. The main use for the pc will be Solidworks (assemblies are usually -100 parts) and nesting. I’m wondering if the a2000 would also work for some fairly large sketchup projects. Ex. 10-30 buildings with landscaping like trees and roads. Thanks.
Interesting to hear - are these the new Sapphire Rapids Xeons? What's the experience like in SolidWorks? Thanks so much for the feedback, and we're really glad you enjoyed the video :)
@@ModenaComputers Dell just has announced new model and configuration. Intresting is that for Towers models there is no option to go for I7/I9. Only Xeons. As soon we get one, I will share the experience.
Hi thanks for the video. What do you thing about HP ZBook Power G8 15.6" i9-11900H 32GB 1TB SSD RTX A2000/4GB 15.6'' . Only for solidworks no game needed.
Great explanation. I just purchased an HP ZBook Power G9 with a I7-12700H, A2000 8GB, & 16gb (1x16) DDR5 4800Mhz. Supports dual channel RAM and am considering either 32gb (2x16) by adding an additional 16gb or replacing both for 64gb (2x32). This specific configuration was on a heavily discounted sale and appeared to meet a reasonable benchmark for SolidWorks. What are your thoughts on this configuration and what type of use and limitations should I expect? Which RAM upgrade option makes the most sense for this configuration? Thanks, appreciate the insight.
Hi Seth, thanks so much for watching! Glad you enjoyed the video. The laptop you mentioned has exactly the specs I would aim for, so it's great that you managed to get a good deal on it. Whether you need 64GB RAM would depend on the size of your projects, but I wouldn't recommend any less than 32GB. 64GB would certainly be a good choice for very large projects, and it would save you time and money if you end up needing 64GB in the future. If the discount you got on the laptop leaves room in your budget for 64GB, I'd say go straight ahead. The 12700H/A2000 combo will be good for quite some time, so 64GB wouldn't be wasted on this laptop. Thanks again.
My Lenovo Legion with 6950HS and 6850M XT greatly outperform my other to ThinkPad workstation laptops with Nvidia GPU's. In SolidWorks I've seen that the AMD GPU's since the 6000 series have outperformed the Nvidia gpu based laptops and desktops.
Thanks for good information. Im using p4000 now but recently buy a new pc for my solidworks work. I bought ryzen 9 cpu due to 13th gen intel E core issue and thermal problems. also I should buy a new quadro but I wondering its performance. I saw many specviewperf benchmarks and I found geforce better than quadro. So I cant decide a suitable gpu. How do you think about rtx 4090 for solidworks? My assemblies made by more than 1000parts and surfaces. I know I should buy a rtx a 4000 or above. But I wanna know new gaming kings performance.
Hi Ted, thanks so much for watching. In terms of sheer performance, GeForce cards are generally much more powerful than Quadro, but we would recommend Quadro for SolidWorks for optimal stability and support. For most other software, we find that Quadro is unnecessary, but in ours and our customer's experience, Quadro is the safest option for SolidWorks. To add to this, the most important component for performance in SolidWorks would be the CPU rather than the GPU, and you could save a lot of money by going with the officially supported RTX A4000 rather than the RTX 4090.
THANK YOU... I've got a friend that runs an engineering company designing and testing trucks and trailers etc. he's had enough of Dell, I convinced him that it'd be better to build custom PCs for his employees rather than use prebuilts but kind of put my foot in it... quite a gap in my understanding, my PCs are primarily for gaming... I had a lot of difficulty recommending a 3080 over a more expensive a4000 primarily because of Solidworks... I figured Inventor and other cad software they use would be fine... The dell specs are i9-12900K processor RTX A4000, 16 GB GDDR6 32 GB, 2 x 16 GB, DDR5, 4400 MHz 1TB PCIe NVME Class 40 M.2 SSD for $4,600 aud I guess I'm stuck now stuck on whether DDR5 is necessary would there be any noticeable difference over some good DDR4 ram?... he'll be getting new workstations in the future but he needs one for a worker now, I figured DDR4 now and new PCs added to the team later can have DDR5... or is there some merit to futureproofing now, he's not too worried about spending money as long as it keeps the workers happy
Thanks so much for the feedback, we're glad you enjoyed the video :) To answer your questions, Solidworks really does need Quadro and the A4000 would greatly outperform the 3080. We'd also recommend going with DDR5 in a system like this. There is a noticeable difference in CPU performance, and it's not worth going for a CPU as powerful as the 12900K if you'll be sacrificing performance with DDR4. There's merit in using DDR4 on more affordable systems, and also when you need a ton of RAM that would be very expensive in DDR5. With a budget like that it would probably be worth stepping the GPU down to the A2000 to get higher quality components elsewhere in the build. You'll notice Dell's using 4400MHz DDR5, but 4800MHz is generally the lowest speed available. Dells also use proprietary parts that are very difficult to upgrade and aren't very high quality to begin with. The cooling in the Dell is probably subpar and wouldn't be appropriate for optimal performance on the 12900K. With an A2000, you should be able to get a 12900K with a good motherboard (nice heatsinks, built-in wifi etc.), a PCIe 4.0 SSD, a good CPU cooler, high quality power supply, and 32GB DDR5 (4800MHz+) Hope this information was helpful! All the best :)
@@ModenaComputers Perfect thanks for clarifying with the GPU puts my mind at ease, otherwise that's sort of what I was thinking, 280 or 360 AIO for cpu and faster ddr5 ram, Crucial 2TB SSD, P5 Plus NVMe PCIe Gen4.. price comes in about the same as the Dell just better components and water cooling now all I gotta think about is aesthetics, full atx midtower case or micro atx with a smaller form factor case, i'll probably just go with a Lian Li 011d air mini (if its not too bulky or garish for an office environment) but then i'll have to add extra fans.. though the A2000 or A4000 blower style might disperse heat outside the case better than consumer GPUs... Nevermind, that's all stuff I can work out, thank you kindly for your help you've saved me from making a mistake. all i can offer you is a subscription and my sincerest thanks. Have a good day. 👍
Ah thanks so much for the subscription! We're always happy to help. Sounds like you're on your way to building a great system, and the better components and water cooling absolutely make this a better deal than the Dell. It'll be much more valuable in the long run. All the best, and hope we'll hear from you again in the future!
Thanks for this great video. I'm looking for a PC to use for Autodesk, I dont know if I Buy RTX A2000 or RTX 3060. This GPU with an i7 or Ryzen 7, plus 32G RAM will be enough? Thank you.
Hi Paulo, Autodesk software does not require a RTX A series card, so you are better off going with the RTX 3060 as you will get higher performance for your money.
Hello ı’m using solidworks 2022 and ı need to new pc my system is ryzen 7 2700x 16gb ram 1660 gpu And 480 gb ssd İf ı will be buy İ7 12700k 32 gb ram And rtx a2000 is it good to me for solidworks can you help me?
Hi Ismael, thanks so much for the feedback :) We actually work with AMD pretty often. We've found the gap between Intel and AMD this generation to be quite narrow in most situations, and generally it comes down to pricing and availability with our suppliers.
@@ModenaComputers you're right with the pricing and availability. It must be related to demand on the NVIDIA side as it is more known in the market... better marketing I think!
Hi Murffly, thanks so much for watching. We've found some pretty interesting results with the 5800X3D. The cases in which the 5800X3D outperforms the 12900K are pretty niche, especially when it comes to workstation PCs. In SolidWorks it provides comparable performance to the regular 5800X, and the i9 12900K would be the better option. In fact, even the 12700K would give you better performance than the 5800X3D, if the i9 is out of your budget. Hope this helps :)
Hi! I want to upgrade my pc to use SolidWorks for a school project (actually in modeling it is much faster but when I try to do a scketch it is very slow, it is difficult to put basic dimensions). I have a ryzen 1600 with a rtx 2060. Do you recommend me to upgrade to a better CPU or better GPU (I´m thinking in P1000), I can't afford to buy both :(.
Hi Angel, thanks so much for watching! With these specs, it would probably be a better plan to upgrade your CPU. The Ryzen 5 1600 is quite underpowered, but the RTX 2060 is still a good card. The Quadro P1000 would definitely be a downgrade from your 2060, even taking the Quadro features into account.
Hi, Thanks for sharing this video... I want to have a new desktop build for using ArchiCAD or Sketchup, but i'm not sure which graphic card to go with? i7 12700kf, Corsair 64gb, choice of Geforece 3070 8g V2 $869aud or Leadtek Quadro RTX A2000 6gb $919 or 12gb $1249, which card has fast rendering and better performance?
@@caiecho7176 No problem 🙂 If you have the cash, it is worth it as the 12900 has a higher single core speed, and has more cores for workflows that will take advantage of that. If you are going to use programs like Twinmotion, then I recommend keeping the 12700 and upgrading the GPU to a 3080 with the extra cash instead.
Thank you so much for this video. Can you help us, we need maximum performance on SolidWorks, we have small assemblies like 30 to 60 parts, no visualisation and flow simulation, but we have about 200 configurations and about 700 parametric equations and it works slow on 64 GB RAM, Core i9 10920x, quadro p1000, SSD Kignston SFYRS500g , will RTX A4000 help us or RTX A2000 will be enough if we will use 13900K CPU?
At what point is the trade off beneficial between a Geforce 3080Ti for example and a Quadro RTX A2000? Im an industrial designer and my files can get quite large with large assemblies and many parts/ complex surfaces. However i do not use some of the heavy engineering features solidworks has to offer like flow simulation etc. Would i be better off still with a standard grade Quado (i.e. A2000) than the best consumer GPU on offer?
Hi JJ, thanks so much for your question. I wouldn't say the A2000 would be a good alternative if you're looking at a 3080 Ti, as there's quite a big difference in price. Your workflow would probably benefit from an A4000. The A4000 has comparable performance to a 3070 in non-Quadro tasks, but in Solidworks it would outperform the 3080 Ti. The A4000 still costs quite a bit less than the 3080 Ti as well. Hope this was helpful!
@@ModenaComputers thanks for the reply... i am actually looking at a laptop. I find there are more affordable options with the 3080Ti vs A4000.... not to mention it is hard to find laptops with the A4000 in general. If you had to recommend a dedicated Laptop for solidworks and Keyshot what would you consider within a roughly $3750USD budget. I have considered the Lenovo P15 range with i9 1985 +- and a A2000 GPU. However something like an ASUS gaming laptop with a high level consumer GPU and 12th Gen CPU is looking attractive for the price point.
Oh I see! In the case of a laptop, the RTX A3000 seems like a good fit for what you're looking for. I'm not sure if there are better places to check for laptops in the US, but Newegg seems to have some great options between $2500 and $3500. I can't see any with 12th gen CPUs, but this would be my pick: www.newegg.com/msi-ws-series-ws66-11ukt-269-workstation/p/N82E16834155945?Item=9SIAMG8GAB7347&Description=rtx%20a3000&cm_re=rtx_a3000-_-34-155-945-_-Product
@@ModenaComputers Great gpu explanation specific to SW application. Your generous response to comments also very informative. 1) Regarding this laptop pick, would i9 performance be subpar due to cooling/throttling? I was thinking msi i7 with the A3000 might be comparable with better reliability/longevity because of cooler operation? 2)Wondering your opinion on msi vs dell precision or xps with respect to overall reliability? Have had great Dell xps experience and none with msi. 3) Also opinion on rtx 3050ti vs a2000 and a1000 All paired with i7-12700h vPro (these are available dell options within my budget) (Note - Currently running SW2021 on an 8yr old xps i7, without many issues. My models are not massive and i don't currently do any rendering) Whether or not you reply, thanks again for your video and all your comments- very helpful.
I Need HELP. Basically, I am getting a workstation for all my Autodesk works but don't want to break the bank or have a brick to walk with as I travel a lot for work between projects. I am seeing the Lenovo - Dell, but most of my associates are saying the RTX3070. But, I have no intentions to play games. Advice please !
I've been using a 2080ti for Revit, AutoCAD, Bluebeam and Sketchup for a few years with not issues. It may be a smaller/cheaper alternative to the 3070 for you.
For Solid Works my Radeon Work Station GPU's have always out performed Nvidia cards (W6800/W7900) even the 7900XTX and I've never gone below 64gigs just to always have enough no matter the program. CAD/GIS 3D Studio Max.
Hi Alex, thanks so much for watching, and that's a great question. My first instinct was the Ryzen 7, but it looks like the 12450H actually has better single thread performance. The 6800H has a few more threads, but the 12450H's 8 cores and 12 threads will be more than enough. Go for the i5 12450H. Just make sure whichever laptop you're getting has a Quadro GPU like T550 or RTX A2000 etc. Good luck! :)
Basically what u're sayin is, one needs a Quadro for professional and hardcore work, and a mediocre user could work with something like a 3060 or 3070?
Sir, what is your opinion regarding MagiCad for AutoCad? I was set to go with RTX 2060 6GB, but have an oportunity for $200 extra for a RTX A2000 12 GB. Using MagiCad mostly
Hi there, the 6700XT will be good for the kind of software you mentioned. It's sheer performance is comparable to the RTX 3060 Ti, but the 6700XT has more VRAM, which will give you greater performance in Blender.
@@ModenaComputers okay thanks sir 😁....and i have one more question is this field (3d)good for free lancing? I'm asking this because in my country there are not much jobs and the payout is very low 🙁
If Solidworks is part of your workflow, we'd recommend the A4000. This would give you the most balanced performance. If you don't use Solidworks that much, I would recommend the RTX 4080 over the 3090.
HI, have you ever heard of a program called Tekla, by trimble? my current workplace built amd based workstations and they dont seem to be performing well. you mention a 12900k, do you think a I7 of similar ghz would perform as well if we're more interested in single thread performance?
Hi Carlos! The we know Tekla very well and have built PC's around its requirements. The 12900K or KS is pretty much the best single-threaded CPU money can buy at the moment! What AMD CPU's do your PC's currently have?
@@ModenaComputers mine currently has a Ryzen 9 3900x and a radeon pro w6600. While modeling and in all other aspects its a great machine but when i open GA drawings (flloorplans/elevations) in tekla it slows down considerably. wondering if its just tekla or a tekla setting
@@carlosmarin4938 The 12900KS has roughly double the single threaded performance VS the 3900X so that would be the one to get 🙂 It is also faster than the 12700k whilst maintaining better multi-threaded performance for those tasks that do require it. Here are a few settings you can check out: support.tekla.com/doc/tekla-structural-designer/2020/ref_performancesettings
Thanks for watching! RTX A3000 would be great, but we wouldn't recommend a Xeon for SolidWorks. Xeons aren't known for their single thread performance, and you would get much better results from a Core series CPU like an i7 12700/k. All the best :)
Hi Thanks for your informative video. would 2x RTX A2000 (24gb) say perform better than Geforce rtx 4090 . I can actually get 2x RTX A2000 $600 less than Geforce rtx 4090. Use is for a 3d BIM software and 3d rendering
Hi there, thanks so much for watching :) I would recommend rather getting a single powerful card, even if it's not an RTX 4090. Most software can't take advantage of multiple GPUs at the moment, and overall you would have a much better experience with something like an RTX 4070 rather than the RTX A2000.
"Thank you, friend, for the information." I have a Intel B660 (LGA 1700) - i5-12400F - 32gb 3200 DDR4". "What graphics card would you recommend?" Thanks
Hi César, thanks som uch for the feedback. That's a good combo of CPU and RAM. I'd recommend a T1000 if it fits in your budget. This seems to be the starting point of good performance when it comes to the Quadro cards that are currently available.
Should I buy the RTX A2000 or the Rtx 3070? They are exactly the same price in my place and I dont really know what to choose between the 2. My current CPU is Ryzen 9 3900x, I will use it for Architectural softwares (Vray, Autocad, Sketchup, Lumion)
Really good combo. That would probably be my recommended spec as far as laptops go. The 5900HX is still one of the most powerful laptop CPUs around, and the A2000 will be good for Solidworks. The A3000 offers higher performance, but the difference in price is sometimes too large in comparison to the performance gain.
Its an incredibly average card for solidworks, man are you sure i have use nvidia p4000 and it handles everything i throw at it like 1000 part model assembly with shaded edges and ambient occlusion.
Great to hear it runs smoothly with more affordable GPUs on projects of that size! I think we should clarify that it's not an average card for SolidWorks in particular, but that it's pretty average as a part of Nvidia's current product line. We specialize in building high performance workstations, and our clients work with pretty massive projects. The Quadro T1000 wouldn't have been a good fit for this particular client, and the higher performance available from the A2000 was exactly what we needed.
@@ModenaComputers Finished the gpu modding. Copper plate mod with kryonaut thermal paste + the "party in the back" (I didn't name it) mod where you use an adapter to route the gpu fan to a 4 pin mobo fan port (alleviates the gpu of the 3w previously used for its gpu fan). The gpu is limited on power since it's powered only by the mobo. Temps went down 10 degrees on idle (!) and power available to the gpu increased by 3w. Honestly, the greatest challenge with my itx build has been keeping the gen 4 ssd temps down. It's warming up the rest of the mobo and it's components. Should have stuck with a 1tb evo plus gen 3 🤦🏻♂️ Humans can't perceive ssd speeds beyond upper 2000s R/W anyways.
Hi, My configuration 1) Board=Gigabyte Z690 X Gaming DDR4 LGA1700 2) CPU=i5-12600k,12th gen 3) Storage=SSD-500GB,HDD-2TB 4) RAM=80GB 3200Mhz =16GB (2*8) T force + 64GB (2*32) G skill Tridentz 5) GPU=RTX A2000 DDR6 6GB it seems ,I cannot take the advantage of the GPU, no real view is enabled , please let me know how I can configure for Solidwroks-2019?
Nice system you have there. The RAM configuration would not be running in dual channel configuration however due to the miss-matched stick sizes. Regarding Real View, please see the link below on how to turn that on: help.solidworks.com/2021/English/SWConnected/swdotworks/t_turning_on_realview_graphics.htm If you're still not able to sort it out, we recommend asking of a SolidWorks forum and there may be an application-specific setting you're missing.
Hello, would you be able to reconnect the CPU components I would need to buy with a Quadro RTX A2000 or RTX A3000 to achieve best results. Also would you please recommend the best mobile workstations with respect to the previous requirements. You mentioned you built computers for your clients how can I get in touch with you. Regards, GG
Hi Gaith, We have a consultation service for international customers, and with this service we would be able to help you put together an excellent system for your workflow. Please email us at sales@modenacomputers.com and we'll get back to you as soon as possible. Thanks so much
Interestingly enough, the pricing between the two is very similar down here. In this case, you might as well go for the 12GB, but we were referring to the 6GB in this video
