Ruby Dee's open marriage is what inspired Will and Jada & countless other celebs.. 

Th❤ese relationships do not teach each partner how to deal with the crises that the other is experiencing. Rage, sorrow, vulnerability will occur and when they are not appreciated dynamite can explode!

Diana and Ruby both 304s.

@@_carbon what is 304? March 4th?

I once met Hur and Hur Husband; it was an event at a location in Manhattan bhhh l was taken away, to my surprise, when l met/ ran into a friend dear...they must had ben in dear early 50s and had a southern hospitality like feel and attitude ...shh was; they both were very nice bhhh he just sat there w his large eyes looking into mines....she was lively/ lovely smiling and self. I had no idea there may had ben a free marriage device in the works bhhh it do explain some unanswered defuddleent, mmm arm on a retreat.

Thank YOU! That movie was my first and uppermost question! I read their duel autobiography and found the open marriage theme a very small time of their long lives together. Once was enough for Miss Dee.

Right ✅️ Open marriage is sick, distasteful and disrespectful!! Why even bother getting married in the first place??

You know doctors exist for you to get tested.a lot of yall love to say yall can't do open relationships yet are with men that cheat constantly. It makes no sense

​@@rucianapollard7098 you can't tell other people how to be in their relationships....yall love complaining about it but always getting cheated on so what's the diffrence really

Also, I'm good enough to be an "only." I'm not some first- or second-string player on a team. I couldn't care less who disagrees, if I'm in a relationship, we belong to each other, not in a manner of ownership but in loyalty. It's an entirely different sense of belonging, like when people search for belonging in general.

Single huh? It seems a lot of black women are latching on to this. Being with someone doesn't always mean compromising happiness and health. If that were so people wouldn't still be getting married and being in relationships.

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I know right . She's beautiful

She was Gorgeous especially them beautiful eyes ❤

My GOD, WHAT A BEAUTY!!

Absolutely beautiful woman rest in peace Queen

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With gasoline clothes on

It's is!

Yelp! Emotions are involved. You can start to really like or love the side piece then what??? It’s just a messy dangerous situation

@@isaacwilliams1827 Woosh!! Ya better run and hide.

@The Blackest Truth. Damn, ole Ruby was gettin it in during her heyday. 😆 Oh well 🤷🏿‍♂️… nothing new under the sun. It was rumored that Josephine Baker and Freida Carla( or Carlo) had a relationship.

I saw Ruby interviewed in her later years and she said that this period was the absolute lowest point of their marriage. She was NOT happy in their marriage at that time.

Thanks for clearing that up!

No one really wants to share their intimate partner with another. It's against God's law

That’s what a real marriage is built on MONOGAMY ..in folks younger years they’re still a bit wild until wisdom finally kicks in

I don't think she inspired it for Jada bec Will said Jada never believed in monogamy due to the unconventional marriages of some of her family members. Will seemed like he just went along with it

She does look like Jasmine, Sarah!

@@deed2157 Jada said Ruby and Ossie gave her and Will marriage advice and inspired their decision.

@@KarineAlourde Then Will and/or Jada are lying about one of those two things they said. Will said in an interview that Jada never believed in monogamy. In GQ magazine Will said "Jada never believed in conventional marriage. Jada had family members that had an unconventional relationship. So she grew up in a way that was very different than how I grew up. There were significant endless discussions about, what is relational perfection? What is the perfect way to interact as a couple?"

You are SO RIGHT. RUBY WAS SUPER CUTE.

I agree. This is my observation as well

ALWAYS

Too much body fluid swapping and spreading one self around total foolishness

I respectfully disagree. Open marriages work for those who can handle it. Most people open their relationships without giving it serious thought.

@@thayilakshmi Just stay single why take marriage vows and do the opposite? Can’t control the emotions of 3rd and 4th parties. Sounds like set up for fatal attractions and Pap smears with bad results

Exactly!!! She came to her dam senses, because in the end it doesn’t work, look at Monique and her husband, getting a divorce after she swore open marriage was so great 😮

What!! Monique getting a divorce?!!!!

I think it might only work with no kids.

​@@roseofsharon4872 Hmmm. I think the OP is allergic to the truth...

​@@ntuan9360 , No. It doesn't work longterm. Especially with kids involved. You might has well have a 3-some orgy, if there are no kids involved. Then, it _might_ be "fun".

I so agree with you!

Why do people think that's ok? Sharing is physically unsafe not to mention emotional. That's why Hollywood is rampant with hidden STDs and random kids tucked everywhere. It's sad.

I agree as well

Absolutely

Only God is the most high

She looks just like Holly Robinson Peete & Terry Ellis of En Vogue👍🏽

Pretty yes, prettiest no

Absolutely 💯

Agree!

@@tomjones3629 You are entitled to your own opinion…based on your name lol why are you even commenting? I’m really starting to see a trend here. It’s like fuck you guys can’t leave us alone in our own spaces always meddling into our stuff😂

I bow a couple who married at 18, stayed married for 34 years, had 12 children...never cheated Theh married in 1988

Pleasure maybe?

Thank you, you remind me of my father. A true gentleman and a good human being.

You should be faithful because you love your wife. The marriage is about you and your wife, not you and your kids.

Beautiful and inspiring . Your wife is very lucky .

I KNEW THEM WHERE THEY DID THEIR HAIR. John Atchison Salons!

That's interesting. Magazines like Ebony left the impression this was a permanent thing in their marriage which led to others to assume open marriages are healthy. The opposite is true. Marriage is about a committed relationship between one man and one woman. No matter what culture one subscribes to or which nation they hail...extramaterital affairs both in secret or in the open hurt marriages. There is no changing that.

@Toasted Almond When I read that, she said they also ended it because people were getting hurt, getting too attached to them, because they never even considered having a serious relationship outside of their marriage or ever ending their marriage! From what I read and understood, it was just a method to spice up their marriage after many years together! I think it may have started in their middle age and lasted for some years, but not throughout their marriage!

Open marriage = no marriage , no vows , no commitment, no substance, no true love whatsoever ! Nothing there !

AMEN!

right. Aside from Tasha Smith and Monique none of those marriages lasted.

@@Kelaine72 Those 2 ladies kept their Man no matter what he did ?

@@jbridges4089 pretty much.

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I absolutely agree with you 💯 percent!!!!!!!

TRUTH INDEED AMEN 🙏

Corinthians 7:2-11 - But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband. The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife.

@@phillyrich3249 you missed the point of to each his own…… You live by your standards without the preach, or pedestal position for you to others. By linking it to someone else’s statement of that starts with, to each his own…., you bring down the golden rule with your church. Preach on the street, or another post.

I know. I’m going to have watch them all!! ✨✨

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Exactly! Lots of people cheat but their partners don’t know about it.

Haha 😂 Damn

They were the perfect couple. They were "PERFECT" for each other and that's all that really matters.

@@TheGreta2400 Perfect for each other? Why this type of relationship then?

That's wonderful. They were a TALENTED couple and Mrs. Dee was beautiful. ❤️

How blessed you are to have met her and just be in the same space as her!! Thank you Karine for this mini-doc on Ruby Dee, I learned so much. Now I wanna go and find all of the movies that you had in the video and I want to binge watch her. Her acting ability is and was top notch. I don't know if you mentioned her getting an Oscar, and if she didn't, she sure should have gotten one!! But you know what, we know that she's great...Keep her memory alive!! Thx again Karine...this was awesome!! Everybody give this video a "like"!! 🙂

​@Dana Vixen her and Cecily Tyson are my favorites from that generation,

Ruby was fine as wine and a great actress.

Da,m she was beautiful and sexy,and I don't think they even wore makeup, everything natural and looks wonderful on her

Open marriages is not about beauty. 🙄

Men back then just seemed to make love to most Women.

@Valerie ok I guess I'll never get it

What I read, it was a "temporary" phase in their 50+ year marriage. They had genuine love and mutual respect for each other.

@@joekuz9133 you don't have to "get it." It's not your business to understand what other people do.

Its called ADULTERY in GOD'S sight no matter what these people call it to justify what they do. Hope they repented before it was too late because GOD is Gracious.

My thinking Exactly.

Common sense tells us that no interview needed

I met Mrs.Ruby and Ossie in Chicago in Chicago on 37th State Street. They were volunteering in the youth center

Lol she was a character 😅😅😂

@@KarineAlourde What is the name of the background music that I hear in this video , and who is performing it ?

@@clementjohnson2666 her brother most likely, it’s in description!

I believe they did love each other, it was just the insecurities of Hollywood that made them feel like they had no other choice but to have an open marriage

@@KarineAlourde That's Hollywood for you. 😒

Another example of why no one should put these people on a pedestal.

@@nadiar.7788 The term "couple's goals" should fly out the window. We don't know what these couples are like behind closed doors.

They did love each other. It was so much love that they could be honest with each other. Sex is just sex. Love is different.

Agreed

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One person I know, female, attempts this. I've known her since we were children and she has some unresolved issues about her parents not giving her the attention she wanted, or it's something of a personality disorder, idk, but she is *never* able to be alone even for a short time. If she has to make an hour drive she'll find someone to ride with her so she has someone to listen to her talk. I feel like that carries over to relationships where one person can't be all the things she demands of one person because in real life people have to work, sleep, have some alone time, and she takes that as rejection or something. So she has other people to fill in that time. From my perspective it doesn't seem healthy for anyone involved and it just allows her to ignore whatever it is in her that needs addressed and expecting other people to make her feel validated. Also, to me it just seems absolutely exhausting.

"Class" and "open marriage" don't belong in the same sentence!!

Class? Hardly?

It's really frustrating how the word "class" is misused these days. The people that get called "classy" just boggles my mind. What they really mean is "attractive" and wealthy, and it's usually reserved for lighter-skinned people, because when medium- to darker-skinned people do the same, they're typically not called "classy." We know this. I love me some Beyoncé, but if you compare her to Megan Thee Stallion, Beyoncé gets called "classy" all the time, even though she curses in her music, shakes her behind, wears revealing clothing, speaks explicitly about s/ex, etc. But if you tried to say to someone, "Megan Thee Stallion is classy like Beyoncé," they would read you for filth, and if you asked them what's the difference, there'd be a lot of excuses. Love both women and am a fan of both, btw.

When I say class, I am referring to the way she carried herself. I don't agree with open relationships either, but since that was an agreement within her relationship, I don't have a say in it one way or another. Despite the fact, they kept their tryst relatively private, and when the issue became problematic for their children, they readjusted. That is classy. A far cry from celebrity relationships we see today, or heck even then - some other celebrities were very openly messy with their relationships. I wouldn't call MTS or Beyonce classy. Beautiful, sure. Again, to me, it's in how one carries themselves.

@@rucianapollard7098 context

Cecily Tyson and Ruby Dee are my all time favorites, slightly behind Bette Davis.

Nah Halle would be a better pick in my opinion

I see the resemblance in some pix. Especially in the younger pix.

Omg yes chloe❤

Ever watch Spike Lee's "Do The RightThing"? They both had wonderful Cameos in it.

Her face was perfect even until the day she died ❤🎯

Agreed

SAME!!

Mousey

It can be a bit more nuanced than that. Some people can’t physically have sex with each other because of a disability. It’s a matter of what both people agree on🤷🏾‍♀️

Agree

@@ladymsthing6056 I don't buy that. Marriage vows weren't meant to be broken just because people get urges. That's what for better or for worse and through sickness and in health means. If your fidelity and loyalty can be broken because of a disability; you are ruled by desires and not sensibility or principles. There are a lot of weak people in this world.

​@@ladymsthing6056 if they didn't repent going hell marriage no joke to Jesus oh Jesus hate sin when have sex before marriages everyone needs repent made normal Jesus eyes looking at sin

@@amethawilliams4771 Well said. And so true.

Who cares? Both are dead. 🙄

I never knew about it until this video.

​​​@@tarawalker7193Same here but I am not surprised. Past or present, I put nothing past these public personalities. The way most people are ready slap them with "iconic" or "role models" for labels makes me laugh. I'm like, you don't know these people beyond the image they sell you.

​@@tarawalker7193 neither did I.

@@VIsidore so why are you then? 😂

Very sad. Why get married

🤑 the face in the dictionary for "will do xyz in the name of fame."

And Jasmine Guy look like her too.

Me too

@@career5690 All l can do is SMH!

You ain't neva lied.

True.

I'm really disappointed!! I considered both of them to be a class act and I can't believe they participated in that kind of nasty foolishness!!

This is sad 😞! Wow 😯! God not pleased with mess ! 😢

Her morals weren't terrible...just different to yours. What about Ossie's morals...object to them too? This beautiful couple stayed together until they died.

The movie is called “The Balcony” (1963). It blew my mind too!

Will being upset about august seemed more like an ego thing. Will is a serial cheater himself. Jada and Garcelle Beauvais were both his mistresses and Garcelle found out she wasn’t the only one bc Trey heard will talking to a woman on the phone and said “is that miss jada?” and during their marriage, before Jada even started sleeping with other people, Will was seen with his side pieces constantly. Jada was getting grilled crazy when this was happening with people blaming her for her husband cheating. I think the issue with August was one, he was friends with Jaden (imagine having to see this dude everyday knowing he’s having sex your wife and is friends with your child), and two, now the public would know, will’s wife was getting her get back (notice she said she was mad and said she wanted to get back at him) and it made him feel emasculated. There was no problem for will when he was doing it even in his first marriage, but jada gets back at him for doing it in theirs and the world raises hell

Ruby did have a side piece too. She talked about how the other person becomes emotionally attached (falls in love) and wants exclusivity. I can see how any man would fall for her. She was a knockout along with a personality, creativity, etc. And the other woman was falling for Ossie and wanted him to leave Ruby. We see how that turned out 😂. I was shocked to hear they did this but they were young.

That is disrespectful, to have sex with someone that is not your spouse.

So much oxymorons in your statement. Hollywood lifestyle is nothing you should emulate. I guess you’ve seen how ‘happy’ Will Smith is and how ‘considerate’ Jada has been in their marriage. Absolute ’love’ and ‘respect’ in their marriage.

Most black women have always believed in open marriage or sexual freedom or however, you may choose to express it, but this belief only applies to themselves and other racial groups of people with the exception of their black male counterparts. When it comes to black males, black females and society as a whole have always taken the exception to this rule, for the prevailing belief is that black male sexuality must be policed at all costs. This belief has always been reflected in the negative attitudes about black men dating and marrying other racial groups of women. This does not only apply to black women in Hollywood, black women in general have always believed and engaged in sexually promiscuous behaviors. However, they are not willing to accept these same behaviors from their black male counterparts without protest. It is only a problem for these women when their black male counterparts start to think about these same behaviors and/or engaging in them. Statistics lends support to this conceptualization, when one considers the fact that the majority of black men don't have any children but the majority of black women have illegitimate children by different men. Statistically black women have more children by men of other races than women of any other racial group. As many black women age they will develop amnesia about their sexual exploits or behaviors in the days of their youth and point the finger at the younger people and seemly advocate for more conservative and/or Christian views and attitudes toward sex. Is this a true conversion and/or has sex just given up on them, because they may know longer be able to compete in the sexual market place? Does this sexual prudishness just reflect a means to protect their sexual relationship and/or marriage interests, because the situation has changed for them?

@@Harry-xz3os most black women don’t like accountability. They love to think they shouldn’t have to deal with the impact of their bad decisions.

@@ngbeat1616 Do you know most Black women? That's an horrible statement to make. What Black women hurt you?

Goals? Cheating is not a goal.

I loved her in a Raisin in the Sun and One Giant Step with Johnny Nash ❤

Yeah, I read an article where they spoke about it.

She say she never listened to who he was with so she was out there too. I never knew.

Yes she is. I loved her hair cut 😍

Yes to Aja. 🎉

Great choices!