you’re mad and upset about why? well yoyre anger and you’re you are angey to be about you know this isn’t the right appropriate anger yoyre stop in you
Omg I don't even think Rab realized just how much early history he was preserving that would have otherwise been lost to time forever. This is incredibly valuable lore stuff. THANK YOU for preserving these early memories for a game that millions of people love. Chat logs from the year 2000 about RuneScape's development, jeezus that's cool!
I remember playing back then. I used to go to a friend's house who had 6 PC's set up under his house. In like a basement type place. We would game and have fun.
Love the content, i used to think runescape history videos would be kind of dry outside of the timeline videos but you have managed to convince me wrong time and time again. Thank you for the effort you put into the videos!
I'm in this discord who are trying to replicate what runescape classic was like on the very first day and are looking for old mudclient builds of it. I'm glad that you did this interview with Rab because I have always been fascinated with what happened before. He is perhaps one of the last alpha testers of runescape and it's great that we did it on the 20th year of Runescape.
@Terminus Est Have you had some insight / luck on old mudclients? The earliest that are on rsc pages for download are for mud39. Must be quite interesting a recreation of rsc from first day. Is there some way to join the discord you are in?
12:50 I remember seeing Runescape hit 10k players at once the first time. I couldn't believe there were that many people playing a single game at the same time
Willmissit, You are truly amazing to put so much effort in this stuff. Not only is this a learning thing for us but its amazing to see al of this memorys from the old days. Runescape means alot to players like me who played it for years now and seeing pieces of the old game and getting to know stuff i didnt know before is just amazing. You put alot of time in stuff like this. Thank you !
Had some amazing memories PKing around lumbridge, fighting at cabbage fields, chicken area, etc. I was there when they released Falador... What a great adventure :)
I remember in 2008 when I first played , they had changed the appearance of the rune scims several times and movement styles when you attacked with them.
Thank you for this!! This video essentially wraps up this loose-end memory I've had for a long time! I encountered Rab once or twice in a Jmod's CC on RS2, not long after the removal of free trade. He talked a bit about making a quest, the very early days of RS, and was pretty chill in the CC. It was a brief encounter, but was something I've always remembered even though I was suspicious of his quest-authoring claims. (At the time, I had no way to confirm if he was telling the truth or just another liar on the internet.) :)
Interesting fact: at 5:28, the Runescape script snytax file extension is .htm instead of .html as it is displayed today because the widely-used FAT16 disk format had an 8 character maximum for file names, and 3 character max for file extensions.
I remember reading the saradomin speaks news letters when I was a little bean, thinking how cool and unique the game was. That is one hell of a nostalgic memory I didn't even know I had.
Man this breaks my heart. The amount of hours I’ve spent on RuneScape is unfathomable to me today. I was there from the beginning as well. I ended up slowly logging in less and less until I decided to buy gold with real money so I didn’t have to go through the grind. I got banned for it permanently. Man what a day that was, walking away from 10+ years of my childhood. I wrote the 3 appeal letters to no avail sadly. Rip Ssj 2 Gohan
I played in 2002 and 2003 while in middle school with a friend who introduced it to me. I introduced it to my brother and cousins. We had years of fun playing together from RSC to Oldschool, all through middle school and high school. R2h was the best Pking weapon in RSC. Bunny ears and scythes were around then too. I haven't played runescape for years. The new game doesn't really interest me. I still watch videos about it but no way to find the time to play it now that I'm married.
I remember logging into rs classic in 2014 or so, I was so lost haha because of how different it felt. Wish I had tried it out more before the servers were completely shut down
looking at the screenshot at 5:08, looking at the file "old player login_files" Does this mean that he had the usernames and passwords of players from that time? Really curious!
There is an HTML page saved and named 'old player login'. It is one shown in the vid, showing the 429 online players, their playing time, and their character age. 'old player login_files' is the directory automatically created when you save an html to put the extra bits in. all the '_files' are from saving HTML pages. No, I never had even a list of usernames, let alone passwords :D
That was one of the forum pages I chose not to show; it was a thread that wasn't very sensitive to 9/11. Keep in mind this was a month after that incident, and unfortunately the game were riddled with toxic players even back then...
I remember botting in 2002/2003. I came back and a mod had teled me to an unknown location and was talking to me. I quickly logged out without saying anything and ended up getting banned. That was my lesson learned :D
I hate that you didn't scroll through the entire list! I wanted to check for my username! I don't see any details in the video description either in regards to the list. I've met both Paul and Andrew in game way back when
@@ProfessionalGasLighting as sad as it sounds I would better than the situation there in now . apparently the average person earns 1$ a monthere that’s like 2m gp in underground prices lol
There were no official records on when accounts were created until Members appeared, so every account older than February 2002 was marked as starting there. Anyone older than that date will be able to get their 20 year cape in 2022. The first 2000 list that exposed Rab as the first player was an accidental feature of the herblore high score tables, around november 2001. Before that time nobody was certain who the very first players were.
@10:00 "cooking on top, first skill" Maybe the first non-combat skill. Considering there was armor listed, I'd assume the primary combat skills you didn't show (or weren't listed) were the first skills; hit points, attack, strength, defense, and ranged. Before "working" on the game, you'd start on a drawing board where you decide whether it will include combat or not. With that said, food (cooking) only gets considered once you have hit points to restore and thus it's unrealistic as a first skill.
I didn't design the mousemat, it was just one that Andrew made with the art he had. But that was an easy mistake to make when I was sending files over. It was very pretty, I don't know if it was actually made into mousemats or was just an idea for early merchandise.
@@rabrhee I see I'm about 8 months late to the party, but is there any place where all this art exists that one could download it? The art at 4:48 most of all, but the rest of the art in the video too. If so, I'd really appreciate it!
@@marginis I believe @rswillmissit said somewhere that all the files I sent him will be put in a storage area linked to a runescape group. I think by now this stuff is old enough not to cause too many people too much stress, but I'm still wary about making everything public myself. Will doesn't have absolutely everything but has possibly most of it. The Mousemat is a classic, I can probably put that up somewhere if Will doesn't. A few have personal bits, like ICQ logs, which I will never make totally public, mainly because there should be some expectation of privacy on personal chats. Instead I screenshot parts of those chats that are solidly Runescape.
@@rabrhee That would be awesome for the mousemat! And honestly, as a graphic designer I'm only interested in the art, so I'm okay without the text logs and such. Those old item graphics and such would just be *chef's kiss* for reference - they're basically classical art at this point lol.
DeviousMUD was techically just a play test for what would become RS. Very, very early stages, but not really RS. The game we know, or that was released in 01, was completely recorded and redesigned.
I posted a comment with some wrong info; could be Rab tested that too considering they were recruited from GamesDomain. I have to double check my sources...
@@rswillmissit I never tested Devious Mud. I have been accused of it many times, but no. None of the people I tested RS with (Lightning, Gugge, Merlin) played it. First I saw of anything was Feb 2000, and that was the same RS style that opened in 2001. Some of the graphics we have seen were originally used there, that's not surprising, I bet a few went to Games Domain and out again.
I played very very early on in the games release and I honestly do no remember ever seeing guards in lummy. Sadly I was only around 10-11 and had some pretty bad rl happening at the time (the game was my escape until someone called the house and disconnected my internet).
I don't think there was either. Lumbridge was just simply a safezone. Varrock and other cities were not safe zones, but the guards would attack you if you tried to attack another player. If you could overwhelm the guards or distract them with other players, you could essentially kill people in cities... But never Lumbridge.
@@TravelWithBradley exactly what I remember of lumbering and the pvp situation. The guards existed to make the cities 'safer' for players but only ever remember lumbridge being actually safe.
Can't honestly say I've ever heard of him...I did play the beta as well and to be honest, I didn't think much of it, a year later I started playing and still play on and off to this day
i played the shit out of rs classic in like third grade in 2000. i think i remember cities (or maybe just lumby) being the only safe areas. when i first started i chose a fighter class and got the small boost to stats, and walked out the castle and was immediately killed by high level accounts just killing noobs every time they left the castle lol. i eventually made it out and did stuff. i was so stoked when i had my first full set of armor. iron legs, bronze plate, iron full helm. i felt unkillable hahaha
Ahhhh, blackmarks... I remember those 😂 I got wrongly "permanently" banned on my main one time, many years ago, thanks to the black mark system and all the points I racked up from false reports. One day I hit 12.5/10 points and got banned. Thank gawdddd for the last chance appeal system, my account was restored and nearly all of my blackmarks removed. What a wild journey its been!
I think you forget that RS created Zezima, not the other way round. He was just a player who rose to prominence around 2002-3 and then got legendary status among those who worship game players :) When I created the name January 2001, I made the name I had used for at least 10 years by that time, because its me. I wouldn't care to play some other guy's name :P
@@siilnr1250 I thought you probably were, but if I told you that I'd seen maybe 200 posts saying exactly this without the zezima bit it would be an understatement. In these modern times, its hard to assume a fairly obvious joke as a joke (See Trumpism) , so best to take it at face value :) It was by no means certain that it would be a success, let alone the success it became. Few people consider the names they make now, much beyond a 'what will my mates call me'. I have seen many posts rhetorically asking why I didn't make some name or another. I'd say there's two distinct kinds of people who make names online. Those who just stay themselves, and those who become something exotic. I was the first kind :D
I did it, bought the scimi and died because of equipping it in ape toll. Im fucked. Lost half of my cash, and the graceful and the monkey things. Im fucked. Trying to get it back, but thats about impossible
In the grand scheme of things I didn't do much. I wrote a few quests, sure, but Andrew had worked on this for around 2-3 years solid before I came along. Paul chose to quit other work to help run RS, and it became a very full time job for him. I was just a friend and volunteer who wanted to help make it as good as possible. I don't think that qualifies me as deserving any grand payout. I made a point of paying my own members, but then when I found out that JMods got members free I did think maybe it would have been a gesture to give me that. But by then I had quit so i doubt I would have got any benefit from it anyway. It is fun to have been involved early on anyway.
