I feel you're omitting an important consideration. The carbon-plated shoes require a high pace and good running economy. They pretty much require a 15km/h running speed . Those shoes are for people who can do s sub-40 10k, sub-1:25 HM or sub-2:50 marathon. That's a very small selection of the running environment. Even plenty of avid runners will struggle achieving those time, and the current line-up of carbon-plated shoes are expensive nonsense to most runners out there. That puts the Salomon Phantasm in an interesting category where it might actually be a very good shoe for the 90%+ of runners out there who aren't capable of running a sub-2:50 marathon. That means that, to my mind at least, the Phantasm competes with a completely different range of shoes. That where the pricing really hurts, as it's a LOT more expensive than the non-plated competition out there. It's hard to see a niche where the Phantasm really fit in well in the running environment. It kind of feels like it's a shoe that's burst onto the running scene 5 years late.
I’m not sure that’s right. I can’t find it right now to link to, but a study last year found that slower runners benefit most from carbon-plated shoes. The theory is that they’re on their feet for longer and greatly benefit from the foams in these shoes.
Salomon has a reputation in trail running so charging a premium makes sense, but for road shoes this price is ridiculous and they are pricing themselves out of the game.
Salomon has missed their opportunity to incorporate their snowboard tech into their running shoes. They could use carbon/glass/bamboo stringers to give the shoes extra pop.
Why do you land on your heels? We are told this is not natural or anatomically correct. And impacts joints more while not using your calf muscle to soften the initial foot impact. Can you clarify, or do a video on this. It’s very confusing what best to do. Thanks.:-).:
Hi! I just run naturally for me, I don't tend to get injuries, my stride is pretty efficient and I'm pretty happy with my times (2:33 marathoner, aiming for sub 2:30). Unless you're overstriding, which puts undue pressure on the joints, I don't really think there's anything wrong with it tbh! I think research tends to find most runners are heel strikers and the science in the area is far from conclusive on any benefits of changing foot strike (if you're not getting injuries etc).
Bit late to the party but for me and other running buddies, a lot of goodness comes from a higher cadence. Currently getting close to 180 spm, up from around 165 where I was generating all manner of evils - achilles tendinopathy, plantar fasciitis. In good shape now with higher cadence. Worth a look if you're not already into it. :-)
@@TheRunTesters Ah, yes not one the brand pushes much - a bit like Evo Jawz, not in the big seller area. But I remember thinking "why would I run in normal racing flats now I have the Rehi" - so similar feelings to what you said about these.
At all.plated shoes you running uphill against a plate. Reason why athletes state that downhill the plated shoes are soo fast. But being Downhill fast means that you better prefer short time ground contact. If there is a plate which strikes against you....? So it's running technique vs. footwear-technology.
Idk, I find running uphill in a plated shoes really beneficial as I don't have so much stress on the calf muscles. Running downhill I don't like as much as the shoes tends to accelerate away, especially the ones like the Carbon X which are rockered too much.
