*Saltburn* is NOT shocking (to Rizzo)... 

that is fascinating. Love that observation

Fr Felix just SAT there STARING at his bike as if the sky had fallen loool

He could also just go on foot lol

@@luvii_hope9449 Walking? Like the poors? Heaven forbid!

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LMAO I saw Barry Keoghan say in an interview when he first met Jacob Elordi, he was just looking up trying to find his head

Now THAT would have been an actual twist!

@@PinkPopcast That would have been so interesting.

Maybe not the entire time but maybe the night that Ollie's in Farleighs room, and they come to an arrangement because he's being cut off.

@@KitAE0 that's good too.better actually. the way i was seeing it, was that since oliver and farleigh had the same academic advisor, they have like months together before oliver ever talked to felix, so i was picturing that somehow ollie found out about farleigh's money troubles and figured it would be his way in, and they would get in a relationship, and everything ollie did, was planned by them together, farleigh giving him the insight on felix to help him manipulate his way in. and their enemies thing is like a kinky thing lmao . but i like your idea way better, it makes more sense with the story, that the moment they slept together, that was the switch

oh that would've been GREAT.

Hahah there’s a difference for sure

The drain is the worst part for me. Have you seen the inside of a shower drain??? It’s full of hair!!!

@@AmyAberrant My thoughts exactly. A truly nauseating action. Have you ever watched one of those plumber videos of them using a drain snake thing? It's almost enough to make Oliver's actions make you puke.

Ty for confirming this movie is just not for me 😮

@MelindaChovexani I've only watched the full movie with reactors via Patreon, but I can confirm that the movie definitely wasn't for me either! I can only imagine it'd be worse watching it alone.

That was clever foreshadowing

Also when Oliver tells felix that his dad died the red curtains are peeking open, then when felix was killed, they’re fully shut

I figured that’s what it was 😅

I never knew this thank you for sharing!!!

Right!?!? Like have y’all never watched an R Rated movie before!?

@@PinkPopcast or read fanfic or hung out on twitter for more than 10 mins 😭

I was waiting for something insane to happen and after the movie when I saw what scenes people were talking about it was like ”oh….sure I guess”

@@ash.1353 I remember 2 girls 1 cup circulating internet 😭 the bath water is nothing

RIGHT? I read fanfics with stuff that makes the shocking scenes look like cereal commercials.

BEYOND!

I don’t think he had a master plan. He’s a compulsive liar and compulsive liars lie to themselves. To me the montage showed his steady state was habitually lying and manipulating with no long term goal, which is what pathological liars do. Every word out of their mouth is a lie, they are incapable of telling a straight story. But as an audience, we are used to seeing that type of “all the bad acts” montage and consider it a “master plan” revelation, when it wasn’t. It’s very difficult to get an audience to view certain tropey sequences in a different way. For Promising Young Woman, does it really look like justice in the end? I don’t think so at all.

To be fair to Fennell, the studio had her add the gotcha from the grave ending. She wanted to end with them getting away with it (which is what she did with this movie, actually, to be fair to critics of that).

@@LadyScaper I could definitely see that, Oliver being a compulsive liar and just snowballing from there. That’s an interesting interpretation for me to look on when (if?) I watch the film again. I honestly think he’s a bit too intelligent to have just been making it up completely as he went along, since he had so many contingency plans for if someone didn’t do what he wanted them to do (or if they did). I do agree that he’s a compulsive liar though, I really wish we learned more about HIM and not just what was going on in the narrowness of the story. Also, Promising Young Woman ends with Cassie having scheduled that text and all the incriminating evidence ab the guys to be sent to the police during the wedding. Technically, I think that’s what she thought would be “justice” even though Cassie died. Like I said, it kinda goes against the message that was set up at the beginning of the film, which is that the justice system fails victims and doesn’t care ab protecting them. Why set up the theme of systemic corruption and it’s failures, just to end the story with relying on the system to do exactly what it DIDN’T do at the start?? It doesn’t really WORK for me in the way I think it worked for others who liked it. I just feel like Fennell’s writing kind of falls apart by the time she gets to the ending, but we’ve only had two? projects from her so far so I understand she’s finding her footing still. Definitely watch Princess Weekes’s video ab it! It’s really good and it highlights so many issues with the film and analyzes the genre as a whole.

Thanks for putting in words what I was feeling about this movie.

@@cristenkray5192 About compulsive liars, I have known several on one side of my family (coping mechanism for them, I know at least 4). All they know is to lie, there isn’t any forethought in the moment. Lying is a reflex. It’s just attention seeking (good or bad), a momentarily means to get out of trouble or seeking a feeling of control/power when they feel they don’t have any. They don’t just lie to everyone else, but they constantly lie to themselves to justify their awfulness. Did Oliver have short term goals? Yes. His main goal was to get with Felix and it did change and snowball from there. He most certainly didn’t plan to get Saltburn, the second he saw Felix. Some compulsive liarsdo try to be what they think another person “wants” but it quickly falls apart. Some “just exaggerate” and some go MUCH farther than that. Those go farther types tend to have chaos as their steady state. They aren’t capable of being truthful as their brain sort of isn’t wired for honesty as the default. (Compulsive lying starts in childhood, but by the time they reach adulthood, lying to themselves is a huge component of their compulsive lying complex.) When some do get caught, they do fall apart, some don’t. Oliver panicking… that made sense as compulsive liars aren’t smooth manipulative masterminds 100% of the time. They do get found out. Oliver’s mother making excuses for Oliver is exactly what I have seen people close to compulsive liars do. Either that or people get fed up with them and don’t deal with them anymore (hence, Oliver having no friends). Oliver exhausted his previous victim pool and had a fresh start and a new victim pool at Oxford as no one knew him. The high of Oliver’s manipulations working (in spite of his mistakes) is something compulsive liars and manipulators thrive on. Oliver was able to be his true self at Saltburn. For PYW, we have no idea how the case will go in court and it wasn’t even for Nina’s rape. Having to sacrifice oneself just to get the police to consider arresting someone, does not seem like the justice system working or caring about victims. I mean… Cassie is dead. Those guys will get out on bail. If the justice system had worked, Cassie wouldn’t be dead. For Cassie to give up living she didn’t have much hope. Her sending the evidence was a last ditch desperate attempt at some kind of revenge as she didn’t know about the recording of Nina’s attack before. I don’t consider it justice. Will it become public what those guys did? Yes? Will they get out on bail? Most likely. Will they be convicted? Considering the type of lawyers they can get, that’s truly up in the air. Especially considering the excuses society makes for rapists. That does not seem like justice. I find people have faith in the “just us” system too much. I do think Fennell’s writing does get weaker/muddled at the end. I do think a part of it is producer interference and some of it is she is trying to challenge the audience farther then they are willing to go. (That’s why I think her needle drops are so literal, so it’s easier for people to reach the more complex point she is making.) I notice she is a fan of Jordan Peele. They both look at the “quiet part “ that we aren’t supposed to say “out loud” with their works. I think Peele is better at communicating his points, but even he changed the ending of Get Out. (I also notice people didn’t critique Get Out about police investigations at the end, yet they do so with Saltburn. ) Certain things, I think people expect too much of Fennell. Like she does not hide she came from a wealthy background (which I appreciate). She has even admitted she was able to get ahead at points in her career because she could work for free when others couldn’t. How could she write an eat the rich story? That would be disingenuous and completely fall apart anyway. She did make a class and system critique though, in a much different and interesting way, and based on her background more authentic to her. People kind of can’t see it in part due to audience conditioning. I truly think she wants to break that audience conditioning and I appreciate that. (Some people genuinely think Oliver represents the middle class.) For me I was close to figuring out the class commentary of Saltburn on my own, and after talking with others I did come to a conclusion. While I still think it’s a character study, it is also a pointing out our system highly rewards the worst of us. Then we get told to revere these horrible people (the first music cue at the start of Saltburn tells us this). Clearly the system as a whole is the problem. But people tend to view class commentary as ONLY eating the rich. As if the system itself isn’t the problem.

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That’s amazing!

​@@PinkPopcast ahh thank you! As flawed at the films script was, I actually really enjoyed this movie lol.

Hahah

It was hot af 😅 I guess I’m weird lol

i finished the movie being shocked and aroused. am i weird

​@Forev3rYoung1947 Nah, you ain't alone. Plenty of women (me included) found that period sex scene hot 😭

@@Zedd...I wish more people weren’t grossed out by it. It’s natural and in my opinion it’s super sexy 😅

And he didn’t get to use it!?!?

@@PinkPopcast It's weird you weren't tuned in to his American accent. It was a convincing one by the actor. How could you hear an English accent from his audible performance?!!?

@@ameliacraiig4193 ? They never claimed to hear an English accent from Archie. They're surprised that the only actor with a genuine posh British accent played a role in which he didn't get an opportunity to use it.

Honestly both of you are right, cause it’s still pretty obvious to us Americans that his accent isn’t 100% natural (despite how good it is). It’s a little too polished. American accents are… lazy lol

@@PinkPopcast Yeah, I thought that was what you were implying. Maybe his American dialect coach chose to take his character into consideration by revealing, through his accent, a sense of affectation & façade in his persona. I could see it being a deliberate choice; because apart from it being "too polished" iyo, he's not off in his pronunciation.

Farleigh was a VICTIM!

Honestly, I thought this was meant to be a comment on and early sign of the rot at the heart of Archie's family/the English upper class as a whole. Later on in the movie, Archie's sister basically explicitly says she was molested by one of her dad's friends, and her mother waves it off with a joke. There are many times when the family dismisses the traumatic reality in front of them and put on a show of feigned indifference, like if they pretend enough the problem will go away (which sometimes it does, but is rather cruel and a product of their baffling privilege). I've seen Emerald Fennel also mention in a few interviews a theme of these types of people being dismissive of the beauty they live in, which I think mirrors this downplaying of reality. If you know anything about the English upper class, and their influence on English culture, you know there is a strong philosophy of repressing emotions lol, especially traumatic ones. Posh English schools are also sadly known as places where abuse is very normalised, both between students and by teachers. Again, it's a theme of 'we pretend everything is OK all the time, and anyone inconvenient to this reality is ostracized'. I think this 'throwaway' comment by Felix was meant to start illustrating how these attitudes have left a lot of people deeply traumatised, and how the system itself is set up to reinforce deeply unfair power structures (because wealth inequality at this level is also deeply unfair!).

*barry has skittered into the chat

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Definitely an unreliable narrator

Hahah that drain was gross but second hand embarrassment is deadly 😂

@@PinkPopcast SO real

Right!?

Thank you!

Like Goodwill in the States.

OMG that Greek Chorus would have been FANTASTIC!

Prequel when they were young and wild.

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That’s definitely what I was thinking, as I was watching the film for the first time, but the ending confused me. I’ve seen a few comments, suggesting that his final big reveal is actually from a wounded ego, trying to recontextualize everything as a master plan, which is something I find more interesting!

@@PinkPopcastthanks for sharing, that’s makes sense! Oliver definetly seemed to have ‘illusions of grandeur’, so he would lie to himself to feel smarter

FINALLY! I was so happy with that visual gag but you’re the first person to mention it! Thank you for enjoying our weird sense of humor :-)

@@PinkPopcast My dog was frightened I laughed so freaking loud, every time he scampered across my screen. And when you all scampered past as well XD Also, I agree with Rizzo I was actually mixed on it initially when I first watched it. But my rating for it went higher the 2nd time I watched it.

I can sense that. It was very patronizing of Felix when they first pulled up to be like, “oh this is lOveLy”

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The drain!! That’s the issue!

@PinkPopcast the biggest issue

​@@PinkPopcastnope, all of it's disgusting from drinking someone's bath water to bath water laden with sperm to licking the drain.

KICK-A-BIGOT DAY!

A mother's grief and scream will always destroy me 🥺

lol someone fucking a grave is nothing????😂😂😂😂 which movies have you been watching oh my

@@nonoeee I love horror movies, which, to me, show worse things sometimes.. Also, I don't think fucking a grave is normal, but I also wasn't screaming at the top of my lungs and looking away from the screen, like I've seen a lot of people do.. :)

Wait! Who’s wearing that???

@@PinkPopcast Archie

Absolutely

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Music can make or break a movie for sure

That would’ve been great 😄

Omg yes, that’s what it feels like haha! Also yea we need to try some Ghiblis

Lol I guess I’m an empath?

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I’m so desensitized

I watched a horror film last year that had someone eating her child’s brains out of his head like popcorn from a bucket 🤮

I'm guessing you've never watched the human centipede then?

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Yea I definitely an unreliable narrator

Glad we could help in a small way :)

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Right!? Lowercase: “oh” 😐

I’m assuming no, but it doesn’t shock him I guess lol

@@PinkPopcast 😭😭😭 yea ofc the “ i did some filthy things “ just threw me

Yes. I also caught it with The Killing of a Sacred Deer! Which is indeed much more disturbing than Saltburn. That's a movie I'm not going to watch a second time!

We will eventually 🎉

A much freakier little guy if you ask me. THAT one was disturbing!!

I’m so sorry but I’m glad you’re feeling good enough to enjoy this 🥹

Thank you 🎉

Omg I hope they release it!!

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Yea the drain was aweful haha

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That’s Ewan Mitchell alright.

THIS IS THE YEAR!

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Agreed!

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Yes!! Haha that drain licking was so unsanitary 😂

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Subtle but you got it 😏

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THANK YOU!

She was sitting outside freeflowing without underwear, it was ruined anyway

@@fuzzyappleshe could have been wearing period panties.

Oh maybe he picked it up from Annabelle lol

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Thanks 😊

He's a compulsive liar

I like that read ALOT!

Ewww but seems about white-right!

Also the rest if the doppelgänger conversation where I think Farleigh points out someone slept with their own sister.

Farleigh said Byron sexed his sister. Which indicate that Felix secretly corrupted Venetia in the story offscreen. Another offscreen moment is when Felix told Ollie in the tour saying “I accidentally fingered my cousin”. Felix fingered his cousin Farleigh’s rear end. He was raped!

Hahah definitely a product of this movie

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