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Sam'sTrains vs. The Inglenook Shunting Challenge 

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My first ever attempt at the infamous Inglenook shunting challenge - and what fun it was!
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@dasmann3904
@dasmann3904 3 года назад
I love these, I’ve done a few at railway shows and never got bored.-Das Mann
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Absolutely - I can't see myself getting bored of this either!! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@DADeathinacan
@DADeathinacan 3 года назад
Ooh, a shunting puzzle. I need to build one of those someday...
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Yeahh!! Do it - it's so much fun! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@cec_oregon
@cec_oregon 12 дней назад
Did u ever end up building this?
@DADeathinacan
@DADeathinacan 11 дней назад
sadly no. Finally got the cash, but now ive got no space, not even for something that fits on a piece of printer paper.
@datguymiller
@datguymiller 3 года назад
The music and explosion! It got me
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
haha I thought the video needed a bit of that ;) Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@SimplyTakuma
@SimplyTakuma 3 года назад
Sam : "I have all five together in order!" Me: "Well, it should beginn from the locomotive side...." Sam : "Oh...."
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
haha I guess it doesn't matter! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@grahambo-42
@grahambo-42 2 года назад
I was thinking something similar, but if the numbers are in the order of the drop offs going down a branch line, then the order (ascending or descending) would depend on the branch. First to drop on the end so they can just pull into a siding and uncouple the last car(s), or back onto a spur (either way. uncouple all the remaining cars, apply brakes, maneuver the cars down the spur, recouple to the rest of the train, continue on, or back the whole consist down the spur to drop the car(s) on the end.) I guess it would also depend on if there was a brake van or not.
@RWblox
@RWblox 2 года назад
Same Lol.
@SquidwardChat
@SquidwardChat 3 года назад
Oooo... definitely getting my mind racing. Time to set one of these up! I use OO gauge hook and chain couplings so this will be fun haha!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Have fun - so enjoyable!! haha that certainly will be fun... good luck!! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@ddragxn
@ddragxn 3 года назад
I'd love to see you doing these live! Maybe a new "section" or interlude like El Cheapo?
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
I would too - it could definitely be fun!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@SheffieldNo14Productions
@SheffieldNo14Productions 3 года назад
It’s 1:17 AM here for me and I’m so happy I stayed awake long enough to see this early Side Note: I’m totally gonna try this virtually cause I don’t have model trains 😭
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
haha awesome!! It'd be epic to try this in train simulator actually! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@SheffieldNo14Productions
@SheffieldNo14Productions 3 года назад
@@SamsTrains so I did end up trying it on my TRS19 and it was fun! Granted, the lines were slightly longer to allow trainz to change the points (it requires a certain distance for you to be able to switch points) but I didn’t cheat!
@cheesekay7314
@cheesekay7314 3 года назад
@@SheffieldNo14Productions Nice Dude
@RWblox
@RWblox 2 года назад
@@SheffieldNo14Productions Cool.
@cadetkohr5508
@cadetkohr5508 3 года назад
This looks like a lot of fun, I would love to see more of these!
@RCassinello
@RCassinello 3 года назад
Sam: "I'm going to try something which I think is quite clever" Me: Headbutts table as Sam sandwiches 3 between 2 and 1 instead of just picking up 3 first, then 2... :)
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
haha that's basically it, lol! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@EthansTrains
@EthansTrains 3 года назад
I tried this once when I was younger and I got confused pretty quickly 😂
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
haha yeah - I've done a bit of this in my own time, and it can get confusing!! xD Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@John73John
@John73John 3 года назад
Here's how you could do it in fewer moves: 1. Take the 2 unwanted wagons from the main line and put them on the 2nd (empty) siding 2. Couple to the "4" and "3" wagons, move them to the 1st siding, and couple them to "2". 3. Bring 4, 3, and 2 onto the main line and couple them to 1. 4. Go back to the 1st siding and grab the unwanted wagon and wagon 5. Bring it onto the main line and couple to the already assembled 4/3/2/1. 5. You still have one unwanted wagon directly behind the loco, move it back to the siding and go back to your finished train on the mainline. (I'm really good at puzzles :))
@ruffian2952
@ruffian2952 3 года назад
I am a retired conductor and your solution is correct. On my railroad we had conductors and we had switchmen who were conductors who knew how to switch in economy of effort. Some conductors couldn't switch a flatcar out of a train of boxcars successfully. I was blessed with men who taught me to "look ahead" a few moves which contributed to my success as a switchman. Getting rid of those first two unwanted cars was critical. Nobody wants to see the same cars going back and forth. Get rid of the fat and attack the lean. I worked with a switchman early on who took the switching orders provided him at the start of the "trick" and went and had a few drinks as he analyzed the lists. He was a genius in my opinion. One last question. Are you married? If you are you have met the stumper of all puzzles as time will attest.
@MrBnsftrain
@MrBnsftrain 3 года назад
This reminds me of a flash game I used to play as a kid called Railway Shunting Puzzle. But instead of wagons being numbered, you had to put each wagon of each design in its designated spot. An idea for a round 2 of this is to use the same wagons, but arrange them in alphabetical order by the name that is printed on the side. You would also try arranging them by size too.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Ooh interesting - I used to play one called railway valley - that sounds great fun! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@grahamtravis
@grahamtravis 3 года назад
I had to smile when I saw this. I worked as a university technician back in the 1970s and one of the other technicians had built something like this in O gauge, on a table with lots of old GPO relays and strowger selectors underneath. He had wired it into a simple computer. You dialled in (on an old telephone dial) the truck numbers in the order you wanted them, flicked a switch, then with a lot of whirring and clicking it automatically solved this puzzle and drove a locomotive around and shunted the trucks into the correct order. The only issue was that the automatic decoupler didn't always work. So 50 years later, you have done what a 1970s machine using 19th century technology could do. :-D
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Oh wow that's absolutely incredible.... does the machine still exist today?!? Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@grahamtravis
@grahamtravis 3 года назад
@@SamsTrains Very unlikely that it still exists. (I don't even know if the guy is still alive!) It was built as a demonstration of control engineering. It would be done with an arduino and a few power FETs nowadays. I will continue watching as long as you keep producing such interesting, entertaining and informative videos, Thanks
@grahamtravis
@grahamtravis 3 года назад
@@SamsTrains I just read up on the Inglenook puzzle, and it dates back to 1979, so what I saw wasn't identical, but it was very, very similar. On open days, the technician would ask members of the audience to shout out numbers and he would dial them in then stand back while the machine did its thing, much to the amazement of everyone watching. It certainly fascinated me and yet I had an idea how it worked.
@HarryC_640
@HarryC_640 3 года назад
Great work Sam! I would totally love to see more of these challenges. It makes you appreciate what it was like for people who worked in shunting yards. Their job was to literally solve the puzzle every day...under time pressure too!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks so much Harry - it does actually, that's very true! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@gerhardtaljaard3705
@gerhardtaljaard3705 3 года назад
Awesome vid. So much fun to watch! Yes, please do more of them again!!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks so much!! Sure - I'll do more!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@allaboardwithkayos1545
@allaboardwithkayos1545 3 года назад
Great video dude, this looks like a cool challenge to do. Shunting is always good fun and this just brings a whole new dynamic to it. Well done for bossing it first time around
@andrewpalm2103
@andrewpalm2103 3 года назад
I've been working on a small HO Inglenook Sidings layout for the past several months. It is nearly complete and can be viewed on my Facebook page (just search my name). I've also written a browser program that can solve the puzzle using AI methods. For the 8 car version, every standard random start can be solved in 20 moves or less, but the bulk of them have solutions of 13 to 17 moves. Unfortunately, when I "wing it" on my own, my solutions can be a lot longer. There are other versions of the puzzle for 3 to 7 cars, with the siding capacities reduced, of course. Thanks so much for this video, Sam! Cheers from Wisconsin.
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited 3 года назад
Great stuff Sam, I love shunting. Working with an experienced shunter, it was always amazing how they minimized the number of moves to carry out the required shunt
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks a lot Mike - massive respect for them - no way I could ever be anything close to efficient! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@michaelschultz5127
@michaelschultz5127 3 года назад
I always enjoyed your shunting videos. It looks like you got yourself a puzzle and a half.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks so much - yeah this one sure is!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@andrewguttry6886
@andrewguttry6886 3 года назад
So much fun! For an uncoupler I have used a short length of dowel with one end sanded to around 45 degees. Glue a small square of plasticard (ordinary card will do), to that end and it will swivel at the join and lift the couplers itself.
@richardclowes6123
@richardclowes6123 Год назад
Hi Sam, I was routing for you all the way. Yea, turning them all round to be numbered the other way would be an epic adventure. Can we have more of this, every now and then please. Loved it.
@trainzdude3342
@trainzdude3342 3 года назад
I love this, i think combining trains and puzzles is super fun. You should do some more!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
I think so too - crazy that I've never tried it before!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@sathyasmodelrailway2023
@sathyasmodelrailway2023 9 месяцев назад
Excellent video Sam. I began my first step into model railway today by assembling the tracks for an inglenook and your video of solving the puzzle was really useful :) Thank you.m
@iandean7129
@iandean7129 3 года назад
I loved this. My future layout will have a place for this for sure. I’ma try the 1 in front and 5 in the back though for the added challenge😂. Hope to see more of these
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Sounds great Ian - endless fun really! Good luck! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@PeterJewell2
@PeterJewell2 3 года назад
Yeah, I think Sam cheated. Number one should have been next to the loco, which would have been a much bigger challenge! (However, I'm rather glad he did cheat: 14 minutes is quite long enough to watch someone else doing a puzzle!)
@poshingtonno1157
@poshingtonno1157 3 года назад
Great video idea, I love inglenooks. I find adding a few wagons of different lengths can make it significantly harder and it once took me an hour and a half to complete when I limited the length of the headshunt to only 2 wagons.
@daveday5507
@daveday5507 3 года назад
There have been other videos on RU-vid which intended to show the Inglenook puzzle. Your's is the first of seen which actually makes sense. Thank you.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
haha thanks Dave, that's very good to hear!! xD Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@PebProductions46
@PebProductions46 3 года назад
I love this! I might have to give this a try myself, though I'll have to dismantle my layout to get some switches.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Awesome! I'd highly recommend it - genuinely so much fun! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@Doritune.rcdrift
@Doritune.rcdrift 3 года назад
I’ve started to build a shunting puzzle layout for indoors... having a full loop in my house isn’t an option for me right now and the loop for in the summer house is too cold in the winter months... I’ve done months of testing and planning and the layout is exactly what I want... easy to store, fun and light.. just getting started on the scenery but I’d recommend to anyone... you can have hours of fun on a couple Of feet of track great vid sam 👍
@aleopardstail
@aleopardstail 3 года назад
its amazing how easy it is to include this into a larger layout and how it provides "something to do" while other trains circle. my own layout is getting similar but with Mk1 parcels coaches
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Very much so - I'm seeing them everywhere I look now I'm familiar with the challenge! That's excellent - great idea! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@stephenjames4937
@stephenjames4937 3 года назад
I'm surprised that you're only now getting around to operational running, Sam, though obviously, it's not for everyone. We all like different things about the hobby: some are in it for making scenery, others for just letting the trains run around a lovely big loop, and others devise timetables and detailed goods trains, and deliver specific wagons to certain types of industry. I'd certainly like to see more of this please, Sam, as shunting is the first thing I'd do on a layout of my own!
@OlivierGabin
@OlivierGabin 3 года назад
I have a version of it on my smartphone, it is a very addictive game. And lots of modellers made scenic version of this puzzle, it's a classic. Excelent idea to show us your version, I love it !
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Oh wow - I'd love to try a digital version!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@RiliansMusic
@RiliansMusic 3 года назад
That was super cool Sam, Can't wait for more!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thank you so much!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@StarWarsJay
@StarWarsJay 6 месяцев назад
Would it work like this…take a picture of each wagon. Stick them on cards and shuffle them. Deal them out, then you have to rearrange the wagons as they are on the cards.
@eddyweller4503
@eddyweller4503 3 года назад
Yes Sam do more, I've made a shunting puzzle for the grandkids, it's a huge success loads of fun
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
That sounds fantastic Eddy - great to hear it went down well! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@vandenbricks
@vandenbricks 3 года назад
What a fun video, please do make more!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks so much - I will do! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@soerenwizard
@soerenwizard 3 года назад
Switching puzzles are great. Good to incorporate in your regular layout.
@Breadstick783
@Breadstick783 3 года назад
these videos are the best all these videos have inspired me to get back to model trains I can't wait to get HO gauge it seems the best I only have O gauge. thank you Sam you make the best videos
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thank you so much - that's lovely to hear!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@LleshGordon2122
@LleshGordon2122 3 года назад
You love it these are pretty good a characters hornby wagons is actually altogether.
@EdwardsDayOut
@EdwardsDayOut 3 года назад
I love shunting puzzles. They make you feel like a real engine driver
@ruffian2952
@ruffian2952 3 года назад
American here. Respectfully, engine drivers have little concept of what switching cars entails. All they need to know is how to make engine movements at the direction of the train conductor. It is up to the conductor to make the switching "shell game" succeed. I know because I am a retired conductor.
@EdwardsDayOut
@EdwardsDayOut 3 года назад
@@ruffian2952 well, then it makes you feel like a real conductor
@ruffian2952
@ruffian2952 3 года назад
@@EdwardsDayOut Actually, lad, my statement is the result of the historical antagonism that has flourished between operating crafts since the golden spike was driven. My favorite answer to an enquiring engineman..." just take a motion ( hand motion conveying engine movement)". Teach them all they know but not all you know.
@Gondarth
@Gondarth 3 года назад
This reminds me of 3D Ultra Train Town Deluxe. There are several anagram puzzles in that. It is quite literally several trains of hoppers or boxcars, each containing a letter, and you have to use the Diesel shunters, sidings, turntables, whatever, to rearrange the cars, and find the correct word in the time limit.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Ahh that sounds fantastic - I'll have to try that too! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@jamieevans4475
@jamieevans4475 3 года назад
Great little challenge would love to see more
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks Jamie - I'll do more some time!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@JoseLopez-xb1mx
@JoseLopez-xb1mx 3 года назад
I'm going try this with my daughters! This is great!
@pedalcarguy
@pedalcarguy 3 года назад
Lovely! Will definitely try this out myself. Thank you, Sam! 😊 👍
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Sounds awesome - good luck!!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@michaelschultz5127
@michaelschultz5127 3 года назад
I love the giant brakeman, you best give him a good raise in pay.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
haha I think he'd be happy with that! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@lapiswake6583
@lapiswake6583 3 года назад
Cool video, I've built one in 00 and one in N, but I've hardly used them as a shunting puzzle, them usually just being display pieces. If you'd picked up wagon 3 from the first siding then picked up wagon 2 from the second, you could've done it a little quicker. An interesting challenge would be to upscale it to the scale of a marshalling yard, using a larger loco to shunt longer rakes of wagons around. But of course, not many modellers have space for that, and this type of layout was developed for small spaces with loads of operational interest.
@willhooker9567
@willhooker9567 3 года назад
Awesome to see a shunting puzzle!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks Will - glad you enjoyed it! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@LKBRICKS1993
@LKBRICKS1993 3 года назад
Great video so much fun to watch.
@GSD-hd1yh
@GSD-hd1yh Год назад
I have actually started to build a puzzle this week. My baseboard is constructed, and I have a coal mining theme in mind because I have an NCB Bellerophon on order. My father-in-law was an engineer for the Coal Board at Haydock, and actually repaired the engine and sometimes was allowed to drive it in the yard. The colliery branch had a road crossing with gates and a signal box which will be the subject of a second board sometime in the future.
@treaderz18
@treaderz18 2 месяца назад
Shunting wagons is my actual job for DB cargo in Kent. In general our longest road can handle 20 JNA/MLA (Falcons). Our shunt neck can handle 11 from the reception roads. Is a good puzzle some times but always have the option of a mainline shunt. Even if the signaler holds us waiting for passing trains
@theangelsmodellingandrailways
@theangelsmodellingandrailways 3 года назад
That's what my lil layout is totally based on, got one extra siding though. It's a great thing to do for long periods. Moving loco at slow speeds, and having the other wagons placed on an odds/even mix when returning to sidings when your finished puzzle. It should be a success for your channel, once you start looking into the variations. All the best. Brian @ The Angels.
@allenshelly6272
@allenshelly6272 3 года назад
Awesome ... I have to do this with my America Flyers Definitely more of these on the program
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Awesome!! And sure - more coming soon! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@rockingtherails1261
@rockingtherails1261 3 года назад
I would love to see you do more of these they are very entertaining and mind-boggling at the same time. Also quoted from season 12 episode one (peckit on the points). Lol. Absolutely great episode keep up the good work
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks so much Stewart - yeah definitely a little bit mind-boggling!! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@davidhinks8384
@davidhinks8384 3 года назад
Who doesn't love a bit of shunting! still have my Hornby 0-4-0 no 27 from (ahem) 1975... Nice evocative session thanks Sam
@bentullett6068
@bentullett6068 3 года назад
Really enjoyed that may look into creating one of these for the large collection of small shunting loco's I seem to be getting in the collection. Extra challenge should be the guards van needs to be included in it and must be put on the end of the wagon train first.
@cheesekay7314
@cheesekay7314 3 года назад
This is amazing, I do this challenge sometimes and I usually just finish in 2 hours!! (But I do use 27 wagons on 5 sidings)
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Oh wow!! That sounds way more challenging!! xD Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@crsrdash-840b5
@crsrdash-840b5 3 года назад
It's interesting that UK calls it shunting and in North American its called switching. Also, both methods are totally different. My understanding of shunting is to shove and bump cars into the proper tracks (the reason for the buffer plates). Switching involves 'placing' or spotting the cars at their locations to prevent damage to cars and goods inside. While wagons see to be between 24-34 feet in length, most cars in North America range from the rare 40 ft to the standard 50ft to 89ft (depending on car type from box, flat, gondola, tank, or hopper).
@louisbuscarino7330
@louisbuscarino7330 3 года назад
You never let me down with your great videos I really like this video. Great job!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks so much - that's lovely to hear! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@SushiDoge
@SushiDoge 3 года назад
This was a fun and interesting video! Thanks for this Sam lol.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks so much - glad you liked it!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@SteveZodiac777
@SteveZodiac777 3 года назад
Excellent - good fun!
@PaulinesPastimes
@PaulinesPastimes 3 года назад
Great fun. It's all part of model train enjoyment and nice to see the 0-4-0 doing what it was designed to do. You could loose hours! 😊👍
@victorgoncalves2442
@victorgoncalves2442 3 года назад
Very nice ,, well done . Really fun , puts your brain to work .
@markwilson8002
@markwilson8002 3 года назад
Excellent Sam.. Loved that.. Do it again..
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks so much Mark - I definitely will do! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@dibsyardshuntinglayout
@dibsyardshuntinglayout 3 года назад
Love the inglenook. I have one built into my layout.
@trainspotharv2208
@trainspotharv2208 3 года назад
This is amazing. If you want to twist it up you could do it in the section of track under the table you do trucks and coaches or Evan make that shunting chalice layout Even bigger and have 1 rake of coaches and one rake of wagons.
@michaelcunneen2665
@michaelcunneen2665 3 года назад
I am impressed that the loco ran across the points without stalling. Wish my small engines would do that.
@CrystalLakeRailway
@CrystalLakeRailway 3 года назад
A cool challenged, might have to try it out!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Go for it - it's very easy to set up, and great fun! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@bluetrackrailway2848
@bluetrackrailway2848 2 года назад
This was ace ! Really enjoyed it :)
@leonardosouza6290
@leonardosouza6290 3 года назад
I just play with the names(ex. box, tank, flatbed, gondola etc...) this is way more challenging! Thanks Sam's trains!
@atlasthenumber5msr440
@atlasthenumber5msr440 3 года назад
Duck: i am a better shunter Peket: shunt better Duck: :[
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
haha!! xD
@iliketrainsilikeplanes6047
@iliketrainsilikeplanes6047 3 года назад
From the starting position, I would get wagons 4 and 5 (The original numbers), put them on the empty siding, get 2 and 3, couple them up to 8 put them on the "Mainline" and then get 7 and 6 and put 6 on the mainline and 7 back (I hope i didnt mess up) And put the website in the description pls
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Awesome! Thanks for sharing - sounds good!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@ricktownend9144
@ricktownend9144 3 года назад
Great idea! - very watchable; please do some more. I remember in 1950s a Rupert Bear annual had a puzzle, centred around a 'Y' (i.e. three points with short curves making a triangle. Leading from the three points of the triangle are one short siding (room for an 0-4-0 engine and a truck, or 2 trucks) and two long ends (representing the 'main line') on each of which is a train (engine + 3 trucks) facing each other. The puzzle is how to get the two trains past each other and facing away from the Y. That was in the days of clockwork trains - it may be more difficult to wire up a 'Y' for 2-rail, and you might have to use DCC to control each engine separately!
@muir8009
@muir8009 3 года назад
I've seen that puzzle (and variations thereof) and oval puzzles etc published in 80 to 90 year old magazines, using 3 rail, obviously (like clockwork) obviating any need for special wiring. well spotted :)
@musicalaebsrailways5615
@musicalaebsrailways5615 3 года назад
I believe you could have saved some moves by changing your first few moves to: Move 1:Taking just the unnumbered cars and put them in the siding(without car 4 like you did) Take wagon 3 and 4 onto wagon 2 and take them to the main Move wagon 5 onto the train with its unmarked car, and continue as you did in video.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Ahh very good thought... thanks for that! Like I say, terrible at puzzles! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@stephenrushmer833
@stephenrushmer833 3 года назад
Looks like fun, I’m definitely going to try that👍🏻
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Do it - it is great fun!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@paulnicoll1791
@paulnicoll1791 3 года назад
Years ago I operated a large N gauge exhibition layout and dispite the full seanery I incorporated one of these into the layout. I had a gauge master handheld controller on a 16 foot lead so children could use it from the 'public /viewing side' they loved it. Also using the same controller I was able at times allow children to drive the trains themselves. The kids were made up
@richardserridge2767
@richardserridge2767 3 года назад
Glad you used an 0-4-0. They are made for the job! Hoping to build a siding layout based on my local (now closed) industrial railway. This would be a good challenge 🤔 They used andrew Barclay saddle tanks til the 1950s. Another great video!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Yeah absolutely - worked surprisingly well on those points! I'd love to do this with an Andrew barclay some time! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@RamsFan93
@RamsFan93 3 года назад
Ay up Sam! I love this video, I'm going to try this challenge myself when I get home! Probably do it with my Terrier
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks so much! That sounds awesome - have fun! Would work great with a Terrier! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@michaelschultz5127
@michaelschultz5127 3 года назад
I like those puzzles, but I like regular shunting instead.
@bow-tiedengineer4453
@bow-tiedengineer4453 3 года назад
inverting the numbers would be fairly easy, actually. Move 3, 4, 5 to the middle siding, grab 1 and 2, move 5 to the bottom, move 4 to the bottom, move 3 to the bottom, drop 1 off in the middle siding, move 2 to the bottom, move 1 to the bottom, done.
@therealawgm
@therealawgm 3 года назад
How this is the only challenge that made me want to do these
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
haha awesome - glad to hear that! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@greghilton7797
@greghilton7797 3 года назад
Who wants to be a top line driver when shunting exercises are so much fun. Please do more Sam. Cheers
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
haha exactly!! Thanks a lot Greg! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@alanthorne3921
@alanthorne3921 3 года назад
Never knew about this until I read about this in the March issue of Model Railroader.I love puzzles(much to the frustration of my missus,she has no patience)and of course model trains(even more frustration from the missus).So after watching your vid I am going to give it a go
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Ahh fantastic Alan - definitely give it a go, it's great fun! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@leroyholm9075
@leroyholm9075 3 года назад
Hi Sam. Yes enjoyed the video. There must be more shunting puzzles and I would love to see them on the site. Thanks
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
There are - I've heard a lot about the timesaver one today, might look into that too! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@thesudrianfemboy
@thesudrianfemboy 3 года назад
I can solve the inglenook at the beginning, and can explain how. Step 1 - Couple to Trucks 5 and 4 and shunt them to the far siding, Leave them there and move back to the front of the line. Step 2 - Couple to Trucks 3 and 2, pull them out and couple them to Truck 8 Step 3 - Pull Trucks 3, 2 and 8 out of the siding and couple them to Truck 1 and leave them. Step 4 - Pull Trucks 7 and 6 out of the middle siding and couple Truck 6 to Trucks 3, 2, 8 and 1, Leave these trucks on the main. Step 5 - Pull Truck 7 away from the other trucks and couple them to Trucks 5 and 4, Shunt Trucks 7, 5 and 4 into the Middle Siding.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Wow sounds great - reckon that's a lot simpler than my method! xD Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@tiddles4x4
@tiddles4x4 3 года назад
Welcome to the wonderful world of shunting puzzles and micro layouts. There is a 5 waggon version of Ingenook for a very small space. There are also some UK/US puzzles in a nice 8 by 2 foot shelf layout space. My current project is 5 by 1 foot and fits in my Japanese sports car, yet I can run my Big Boy on it! Sam give it a go and you will be a very happy man. If you do move house these layouts are easy to transport too.
@thehobbyistden3720
@thehobbyistden3720 3 года назад
I always wanted to try shunting puzzles, think I'll set up some track as its a rainy day and all and give it a whirl. I'll film it too and share the disaster lol.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Me too - it's 100% worth doing, trust me! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@kmanison
@kmanison 3 года назад
I love Inglenook puzzles. I have a couple of Inglenook Apps on my phone, great when waiting in lines at the checkout! But I number my train wagons with #1 at the loco, so I think you got it the wrong way round. Anyway here's another challenge. After you have mastered 5 wagons, then move up to 6, 7, and finally 8 wagon trains. The trick is to marshal the last five wagons in the long siding, and then build the rest of the consist in one of the other sidings. Then join them. Can be done. I'd love to see you give it a try.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Me too! I'll have to try one of those apps at some point! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@SaxonIVKGames
@SaxonIVKGames 2 года назад
Great video!!
@sirhilsam
@sirhilsam 3 года назад
My head hurts🤣 Looks like so much fun.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
haha sorry about that! It is great fun though!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@GWRFan281
@GWRFan281 3 года назад
Nice one Sam. The only thing I might have done different was to pick up wagon 3 before wagon 2 at 6:40 then shunt them back to wagon 1. It can be tricky to do a shunting video though. I have only done one myself and I had to have it all planned out before I started.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks a lot mate - and appreciate the tip... no guarantee I'll get better at these, as I really am terrible at puzzles! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@lewiscartwright3609
@lewiscartwright3609 3 года назад
Hi Sam today I have Double headed my Mainline 4mt with my Hornby 0-6-0 cadley hill colliery cadley hill No.1 and I couple 3 mk1 coaches and BR Blue and Grey Mail coach and then a triang Hornby BR maroon mk1 Full brake coach and to form "The Shropshire pioneer Express" and the Shropshire pioneer Express can either be pulled by a Diesel locomotive and or by a Steam locomotive but today's service is pulled by Steam because My Diesel locomotives have entered a permanent retirement so they can Sit Back and relax and I am planning on getting a Lima Class 50 50 020 "Revenge" and a Lima Class 55 Deltic "Fife and Fortar Yeomanry"
@nameless5413
@nameless5413 3 года назад
Pretty reasonable way to have railway fun. How about - left side 8 space (+locomotive) 8 tracks each with 3 wagons (except one which has to be completely void of anything just so that you have room to solve things), but only 4 spaces available Just to have added complexity.
@lukebarber9511
@lukebarber9511 3 года назад
Have you ever heard of the Timesaver puzzle? That's the most popular model train puzzle among American modellers.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
I've only heard of it today for the first time - will definitely look it up! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@williamkoch9977
@williamkoch9977 3 года назад
Yes, do more. For increased challenge you can make up a train of 6, 7, or 8 wagons rather than 5.
@ruffian2952
@ruffian2952 3 года назад
Well, Bill. I thought you preferred America's Cup sailing.
@royphillips4758
@royphillips4758 3 года назад
Yes it be a good idea to do some more
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks Roy - more on the way! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@mrholloway104
@mrholloway104 3 года назад
Great vid Sam, I've got a spare peco 3 way point and some odd bits of flexi track so I'm going to give it a go. I'll be using dcc though. Please do some more!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Sounds great Nick - hope you have fun with it! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@alanswallow9033
@alanswallow9033 3 года назад
Good wee exercise! I would have thought that no. 1 would be the first wagon behind the locomotive, as in left to right but makes no difference for the exercise. Back in the 80s I used assign numbers to wagons and use the same amount of playing cards shuffle them then deal out the random cards for the train order maximum was 10
@chrishines6048
@chrishines6048 3 года назад
I love puzzles and I enjoyed watching that and I would like to see more
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains 3 года назад
Thanks so much Chris - I'll try to do more!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@boblawrence5011
@boblawrence5011 2 года назад
Hi, I’ve been playing around with inglenooks for a while now and in the process of upgrading points. Have been going over the rules and looking more in depth of solutions and strategies as shown in the rules. I always thought the finished rake of wagons had to be in the longest length of track but the rake shown in the solutions and strategies, although in the correct order and can be taken away they are not in the longest length of track and cannot be fitted into it. Can you tell me if it is sufficient to get the wagons in the correct order or if they need to be in the correct order and in the longest length of track.
@charleshax
@charleshax 3 года назад
I’m tempted to try this in the distant future with 3-rail O scale
@antoinebesnehard
@antoinebesnehard 3 года назад
Nice, Sam. Just one little detail : in the Inglenook puzzle, wagon #1 should be the first one immediately after the locomotive, followed by #2 etc with wagon #5 at the tail of the train. I have an Inglenook myself wit a Southern GE44t switcher and Norfolk and Western 40' boxcars. Nice game :-)
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