Sanda Girl Throws Muay Thai Girl Around 

and it’s very demoralizing. Even if it’s not MMA where you have to worry about submission fighting or GNP, you feel like you’re not in control

Might remember this wrong but I remember a bouncer or fighter, not sure, talking about bar fights. About how for 90% of them all he had to do was dodge/avoid for 30 secs and then the other guy would be gassed, at which point most of them would change their minds.

More importantly if you fall on a surface that isn’t a cushioned spring loaded ring (even dirt) it’s going to hurt. And it’s gonna knock the wind out of you

​@Muay_Thai1930 I said I could see the huge differences between MT and sanda; I was speaking of a gradual convergence of the styles, at least to my lay eyes. I think what sanda has to offer is a built-in specialization of transitions from striking to takedowns, so I could see it being a useful addition for jiujitsu fighters or possibly wrestlers who wanted to go into MMA. Neither wrestling, judo, or jiujitsu consistently train transitioning from striking to takedowns. Combat sambo might be the exception, but then, it's not clear to me that "combat sambo" means anything meaningfully different than just saying "MMA." This is a slightly different question of why don't existing sanda fighters go into MMA more often. There the grappling talent is so much higher that they may not even be able to reliable pull off their takedowns against wrestling specialists, or potentially even worse, it could just be putting them in the direct line of fire of jiujitsu specialists.

The issue is that Sanda isn't popular enough to get more representatives, The only one I can think of is Cung Le, and he hasn't fought in years. Honestly it would be awesome to see more Sanda representatives in MMA.

@@gladiumcaeli yeah, Cung Le was the phenom the sport needed but he was just a little too ahead of his time. He was aging out just as MMA was becoming mainstream and I don't think he ever sufficiently developed his jiujitsu in order to leverage his epic takedowns in high-level MMA (although he was an extremely good wrestler outside of sanda). He dominated smaller promotions like Strikeforce but I think he was just a little past his prime by the time he gets into the UFC. He's the one that got me interested in sanda (an acquaintance of mine was a student in his gym in Cali before he got really famous).

@@elenchus Yeah, I think so too, he was a bit old by the time he got into the ufc, You trained Sanda? that's pretty cool, I always wonder if they made Sanda an Olympic sport if that would make it more popular. I am aware that the Olympics watered some fighting sports down but it can help more people get familiarized with the sport. One other thing I did notice is you won't find much on youtube when it comes to Sanda, unlike BJJ, like influencers, high-level practitioners or even training DVDs (like Kicking Revolution for TKD, 67 Throws of the Kodokan for Judo, etc). There is one site where I did find some Sanda contents which was on the Bilibili website but it's all in Chinese.

​@@gladiumcaeli I wish I had trained sanda but I lived in the middle of nowhere when I encountered it, I was just saying that Cung Le was the first time I had ever heard of it, and watching him just blew my mind. I had an acquaintance in the film industry (no one particularly famous, I mention because Cung Le wanted to get started in film so this friend and him were talking quite a lot) and he took classes with Cung Le out in Cali, so I sort of heard about its awesomeness from him. I couldn't even study TKD back then, that's how isolated I was. I ended up just studying whatever clubs my universities had after that point, although by sheer chance that worked out OK for me. But good point in terms of sanda's outreach. I think a couple of phenoms would go a long way. We can see how much the Machidas revitalized interest in full contact karate, for instance, but possibly also a good charismatic RU-vidr would take it to the next level. It'll be hard to replicate jiujitsu's success because it has really just solidified ownership over an important niche of MMA (submission fighting) whereas strikers get a lot of styles to choose from that must compete with one another for dominance. The MT commenter also made me think about things a bit. MT has been gradually dying in MMA for probably 15 years now to the point where it's basically been reduced down to its clinch fighting elements which supplement other striking bases. Given sanda's relationship with MT, it's possible that it's just missed its window. Still, I kind of think the transitions from strikes to takedowns could be beneficial for a jiujitsu fighter.

Head slips out pretty easy probably

@@KingoftheJiangl yeah also youre giving up position you can get body locked then mat returned or ura nage'd backwards. maybe even suplex. also much worse for shorter fighters

just my opinion (judo taxonomy might as well be a college course), but this may be slightly more like what I recognize as a kubi nage. In my mind, kubi nage adds the tai otoshi element and rolls the opponent over whereas koshi guruma is more like a hip throw

the nice thing about these kinds of throws (throws from the neck) is that they land in a really nice kesa

Sanda destroys muay thai 9 out of 10 times under mma rules. Check out the videos whose links are shown below ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-z9vQGYcIAxM.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-H28QcS_13X0.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Xio1TJVadhY.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0hlJLKzd_dQ.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NN9WKtt8Ork.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--Nd4AWDWwGY.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--s_T0S6FDbs.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-c75rK4Vvsb4.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dXE05Wt8E8M.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1nT1kbbR4GU.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2rnnJPkNarA.html

Cung le is trash lol, guy is a overhyped crybaby

You should also check out Zabit Magomedsharipov who was the best Sanda fighter in the UFC

​@@vascosyogaundkampfkunst8042 that's wild. Zabit had very few fights. To look past the other Sanda fighters who are actual champions in the UFC is WILD

@@cagemachine2492 like who?

@@Yautah yeah ik who youre talking about but idk how that pertains to my comment

@@SS.LiuRyan you're absolutely right. I might have misclicked somewhere, but I'm just gonna blame RU-vid.

Honestly if you don’t know how to defend basic throw you should stick to Muay Thai

Brachial (forearm) strikes and conditioning, as well as shoulder strikes, are widely regarded as common in kungfu.

It probably shows it in the original video. Definitely give them some love. Video is linked in the description.

That’s awesome!

she was in black and red

@@elenchus That guy was a woman?

nah bro sanda is better than muay thai go watch sanda vs muay thai fights sanda fighters did well with muay thai fighters even without using wrestling or judo

The lack of conditioning might have to do with Sanda's rule, 2 min rounds best out of 3. Compared to Muay Thai 3, 3 min rounds. More Sanda representatives in MMA would be great.

yea bro telling that girl was lucky but he didint see the sanda fighters who fighted in muay thai rules and won without even takedown @Muay_Thai1930

​@Muay-MMAThat's not a great argument.

Jia Aoqi vs. Tawanchai is a better example of a sanda v MT upset. Liu Hailong is overrated outside sanda--he has very legit credentials in that sport, but in cross-style stuff, his best win was a washed up Robert Kaennorasing