Not really that arbitrary, just seems weird because it's an odd game. Makes more sense when you think about the evolution. The games basic concept is "Knock over all of the things to win". Giving people two chances to do it is ideal. One chance and you lose the depth of knocking down splits and the such, but three or more chances and completing that goal becomes significantly more arbitrary, hence the invention of the 2 try frame. From there, its just a system of awarding more points to people who complete the goal more, making the game more competitive. We could do something simple, like a flat "+10 bonus points" for a spare, but then we have no mechanism to reward consistency and punish accidents. With the current system, the occasional spare is useless if you always bowl a 1 or 2 after. They also could have used fancy multipliers and the such, like arcade games do, but those sorts of scoring systems can quickly get complex and require tons of paper to do all of the math. The current system, using very little calculation, efficiently creates a competitive game with a high skill curve.
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@@151bar151 I know this is an old comment but in college there are bowling electives for one credit so they might test there or maybe a high school bowling unit in PE. I had a bowling unit in high school and they taught us how to score it but I never got tested on it
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This is the first time I’ve ever been able to understand the scoring of this game!! Thank you so much for going through all of the different scenarios:)
All these years and it just dawned on me to youtube bowling scores... Next time I go bowling, ill understand a bit more on the scoring... thanks for the video!
This actually makes way more sense than I thought it was going to. I half expected this to be some complicated case of there being a hundred different parameters, and splits might affect the score you get, and certain pins might hold higher value on a strike or something. But no, it's just a case of adding a couple numbers together if you strike or spare. Way more simple.
Fortunately I know how to keep the score, but I've been trying to show my Wifey, and haven't had very much luck. So hopefully this does the trick Thank you.
one important note: If he gets a spare or strike in the last (tenth) frame, the bowler gets to throw one or two more bonus balls, respectively. These bonus throws are taken as part of the same turn. If the bonus throws knock down all the pins, the process does not repeat: the bonus throws are only used to calculate the score of the final frame.
I actually think it is perfect for the game Think about it: the more you strike, the less throws you have, because you're not gonna need two throws in a striked frame, only one So essentialy, strikes make you "play less". To compensate this, the strikes make your next throws double, so you can accumulate points in what would be "phantom throws", that is, throws that you didn't make but award you points Spares also lets you double your next throw, but they aren't as generous as Strikes. Also, the 10th frame is different and follows some different guidelines But in general, I think the system is actually brilliant
i understand so easily now. Honestly I just wanted to understand wii sports bowling. But i hope i can flaunt this next time i go to bowling alley. I think it's a cool scoring system, from a games design perspective
10 year old video but such good explanation covering all possibilities. Thanks man 👍🏻. I wonder if he would see this comment after 10 years when the world has gone up side down lol.
ALWAYS try to learn how to determine if there might BE ERRORS. You can't DO that if you never learn how to do it manually... I suppose it would be like "believing the bank statement" and never adding/subtracting for yourself...
Best video on the most apalling scoring system i was forced to reguritate god i cant even spell my brain hurts. Whoever made this i hope they got the medicine they needed bc they werent taking it when this was made
Hi Steve..I kinda understand it now..hahahaha..I guess the thing to remember is the mechanics of a strike and the mechanics of a spare in terms of scoring it and what to in scoring consecutive strikes or consecutive spares..heheheheh
I'm not gonna lie it's kinda complicated, I like the more direct approach like the scoring for basketball, the ones who.has the highest score before the time runs out, or volleyball first to rich 25, or like darts, if I'm nor mistaken first to rich 0 if I'm not mistaken, I don't mind adding or subtracting, but the way to keep scoring in bowling is kinda complicated especially if you are new
open frame (no spare or strike)- amount of pins knocked down is your score spare- 10pins plus the value of the next shot is your score strike- 10pins plus the value of the next TWO shots is your score Not really complex
Think about it: if someone strikes in one frame, they go to the next frame. In comparison, if you need two throws in one frame, you're gonna have twice the amount of throws in one frame. So, a strike makes you essentialy play less, because you're gonna need less throws. To compensate this, the next throws are gonna be double so that you can kinda have the same amount of throws as someone who always needs two throws. I think thats kinda the logic behind it. It may seem nonsencial at first, but I really think this was really clever and awards people who are consistent in the game
If you have a strike on ball 1 (frame 10 as you asked)... you wait for two more balls before you know how to score it... XXX would yield 30 X9/ would yield 20 X3/ would yield 20 XX5 would yield 25 X8- would yield 18 Get the point? Strikes ALWAYS add 10 + the total on the next 2 balls (except in the 11th or 12th frame (they are sometimes called "fill balls") Hope this helps
Russell no, in the tenth frame, spares and strikes are both worth 10. That’s why you have the extra shots in the 10th frame. If you were to have all strikes with the rule you prescribed, that would mean you bowled a 360, which more than a perfect score. In real scoring, say you have the front 9 strikes, then you get the first two in the 10th frame, frame 9 would be worth 30pins. If you finished with all three shots are strikes in the last frame, 10+10+10 is 30. Mainly the rules are different in the last frame so you don’t have one frame worth more than the other.
That scoring system has been in place since the game has been invented, and it's nice. I love tallying our games when there was no computerized scoring yet
So if you get a half strike, on your next go your first attempt has to be good. Whereas if you get a strike, on your next go both attempts combined have to be good. Got it.
There are a maximum of 120 pins possible, and a maximum of 300 points possible in a game of bowling. Therefore, each pin can get you up to 2 and a half points. Do you find that fair?
Bottom line is simple ... spares will add 10 plus your next ball, and strikes will add 10 plus the total of your next TWO balls... so NEVER throw a horrible shot after a spare... like a gutterball...which would just give you the 10, whil getting a strike right after a spare gives you TWENTY.
Bowling itself is not bad, but the scoring system may be really bad, especially for those who like to play it to have fun. The scoring system makes it more about chance, rather than strategy. Professional bowlers don't just do it for the fun, they also do it for the money and wealth. Maybe the scoring system doesn't matter to professional bowlers, but it does matter to those who like to play it to have fun because they don't think it is fair at all. It may be bad for people who like to have fun because it is not fair, and it may be bad for pros because the scoring system makes it more about chance and getting as high as possible, rather than having a real strategy to earn the money and wealth. You could end up getting more than twice as many pins as someone in a game of bowling, and still lose.
Kath Cohn the thing that you don’t know is there is such thing as a handicap to make it fair for the new bowlers or bowlers who don’t have such a high average
Luke G handicap is added on to scores at the end too make it more fair so people who are actually good dont wreck beginners. If you want a challenge, just join a scratch league that has no handicap. As a rule of thumb, handicap is determined by taking 200 and subtracting the bowlers average. Say I average 176. My handicap would be 24.
