Secrets Of The First Christians - The Naked Archaeologist 220 - The Early Christian Underground 

I was impressed.

He has a huge anti-christian bias that causes him to err. His knowledge of the Bible, as that of his so called experts, is usually very superficial and easily bent round to a Jewish non believing perspective.

@@1yogachris I have to disagree. He questions a TON of Jewish beliefs and traditions too. Not being from a Christian background gives him less bias when examining the history.

But what about “aceste nuci”

@@turbocharged0611 That means, "these nuts" in Romanian.

I know 🤣🤣That’s funny where I live. no disrespect

Fall of Jerusalem 70ad y joshpes. Can plz tell name of its book?

simcha's parents are romanian

Bill Dunne from Ireland if you could answer me why is the name Kelley spelled with the EY instead of LY ending and why did the Scots in the 12th century start calling themselves Irish?

@@f1s2hg3 Do tell fisherman3.

All first Christian were Hebrew / Jews. Even Philip, he preached in Greece / Turkey and Bulgaria, but was Jewish, probably the brother of Maria of Magdala. He left Jerusalem with Mary, mother of Jesus, Maria Magdalena got Turkey, where Holly Mary was buried. He continued to preach and went further. It was a mistake to consider him Greek.

Sir that kind of study hard to find here.

I still try to find book "the complete works of Flavius Josephus"

"...Jews who had converted to following Christ..." That phrase gives an unfortunate false impression, imho. There was no 'Christianity' as we know it, to convert _to._ Judaism was not a very unified/standardized religion in that era, and the Roman occupation was only complicating that state of affairs. Among Jews of the time there were competing sects, with different philosophies, professed goals, and aspirations. At a time of great change, and at the crossroads of numerous cultures and faiths, Jesus was one of many rabbis (= Jewish religious leaders) espousing views that were at odds with 'orthodox' Judaism. But he kept most Jewish religious traditions and festivals, revered the torah, associated with and preached to Jews, and deliberately tried to be consistent with (most of) the Jewish law and the prophets. He was not setting out to replace Judaism! He was attempting to 'correct' the aspects of it that he believed to have strayed from the truth. The current Christian notion of Messiah (or 'Christ' - a Greek translation) came later; in Jesus' time it meant something different, something intimately connected with the leadership of the Jewish people, and with their fate. Anyway, early followers of the Jesus movement didn't convert _away_ from Judaism.

@@pbasswil AFAIK you are absolutely correct. The earliest Christians were a sect of Judaism know today as the Ebionites; who rejected Paul, the virgin birth & the divinity of Christ. They probably didn’t just fade away or go underground but were declared dangerous heretics by the early Catholics as testified by several church fathers. As a result their leaders and texts were hunted down & destroyed. The only documents or testimony of their existence available today so far remains those same church fathers, who pointed out some of their practices & briefly quoted from the Gospel of the Ebionites. This was reported to be a version of Mathew minus the first few chapters & written in Hebrew. Ironically most if not all of the modern Hebraic Roots movements neglect this subject & hold up the trinity as a core belief. Peace be with you.

Dude same

Can u pls post vids for me

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Christians Faith is proven by Americans and the nation we founded on The Faith of Christ Jesus and my God is God and no other Gods shall stand before Him. You will bow before Jesus Christ and He will Judge

Thanks, I was trying to figure out what show those clips came from.

I’m interested and would love to talk to you.

The Ancient Faith never died. It's never been under Rome either. It's the Eastern Orthodox Church.

So what exactly do you believe about Jesus?

@Michael Lacy : Ummm... No. You’re apparently missing something key about the documentary above. What he is claiming is that Judeo-Christians didn’t believe Jesus was divine, but a man they knew as the Messiah. They were rejected by the Rabbinical Jewish followers because they refused to accept Jesus as the Messiah and were rejected by the Christianity of Paul, which focused on the divinity of Christ and a triune God structure. The Judeo-Christians he is referencing didn’t believe in a triune God and believed only in YHWY, Jesus was nothing more than a man who they thought would bring peace to the Israelites. That is what this documentary is suggesting. Are you claiming that it is the same beliefs of the Eastern Orthodox Church? That they don’t believe in a triune God or the divinity of Christ? Unless that’s what you’re claiming, I don’t get why you posted what you did.

@@sisterspooky You're way off course. E. Orthodox doesn't follow the teaching of Christ. None of the denominations follow Christ's teaching. Look at their foundation.....the ministry. If the ministry doesn't follow His instructions on how to live and spread the Gospel then they are not the children of God. His instructions are explicit but are not convenient to man. Hence the hundreds of denominations. Show me a denominational ministry that will sell all, give away all, and live a life without a guaranteed income and preach the Gospel freely with no collection plates; a homeless ministry. Totally depends on God to direct them and keep them as He did with the Apostles, as He does now with His chosen ministers. Not a single denomination in this world will willingly give their all.

Watch carefully Caesar Messiah. Romans created Pegan counterfeit religions.

Thank You Very Much For That Info. I Did Not Know That..

Maybe considering Christian symbol of fish instead of catching & wasting fish can coincide with picking up and recycling plastics.

Hans Küng, controversial (and admired) Swiss Catholic theologian, joining forces with three of his colleagues from the Tübingen Institute for Ecumenical Research, published a book - Christianity and World Religions (1984) - in which, in the chapter on Islam the possible connection between the heterodox Judeo-Christian movement and the beginnings of Islam is pointed out. (This book, Christianity and the World Religions, does not include a discussion on Judaism, but the topic is covered at lenght in another work - Das Judentum (1991).

Yes!

People including the disobedient Archeologist do not mention that Peter defended Paul to the point... 2Pe 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

Jesus did NOT leave his brother to carry on his ministry!! James the brother of Christ is NOT even listed as one of the Apostles like a lot of misinformed people believe!! And many of the so-called "historical sites" of the Bible are NOT what people claim - One of the most popular is the Apostle Peter's "grave site" in Rome; or the so-called church he supposedly founded, as Peter was NEVER in Rome!!! Scholars claim that Peter's reference to Babylon is really a reference to Rome - which it is NOT!!! Rome is in Italy - which is in the Southern part of Europe!! Peter's reference to "the Church in Babylon" also references "the rest of the Saints in ASIA - meaning the Church founded in Babylon (which is now part of Iraq)!!! The Epistle of James was written by James the lesser (named in Matt 10: 1 - 4; "James the son of Alphaeus" (NOT James the brother of Christ!)!!! It is small things like this that can trip up the so-called Bible scholars who only teach what they want, and NOT what the Bible teaches!!!

Tallman? I thought he was saying Talmud.

Paul changed the meanings , negating the importance of women. Many changes.

The two menorahs is a decorative motif in temples of the time. Stone carvers would have received training in the styles of the time and incorporated such features and embellishments in the carving of the Temple. The Second Temple was built using Roman technology and slaves from all over the Empire, so it makes sense that Greco-Roman iconography was used. I read recently of the identification of a large slab of glass in a temple tomb as having been one of four such glasses in the ceiling in the Second Temple. Such exuberance anxiety excess is a virtue

Such exuberance and excess are Roman virtues. Herod was a Roman appointee and did all he could to ingratiate himself to the Caesar. I think you’re right about the Temple being a combination of stone, wood and cloth. Likely all covered with thin sheets of gold, silver, copper and a variety of mixed metals like electrum. The stone work would go just so high and then switch over to large cedar beams. As for how the fire went, Josephus tells us that the Temple went in sections, mostly set by a suicide squad of Zealous. When the inner sanctum, huge sails of hemp and linen, caught fire, the building exploded in a shower of metal flakes and ancient scrolls. Because the roof was constructed with huge cedar logs, the fire would have burned for days if not weeks, generating temperatures high enough to vitrify stone and atomize anything organic. The best analogies I can give are the burning of Notre Dame, the National Museum of Brazil, the private collection of Chinese American history. The heat melted metal roofs, just like the

I was in messianic Christianity for awhile.

@Eddie 1967 The Jerusalem Church was the same church as in Cappadocia, Pamphilia, Cilicia, Lycia, Rome, Thyatira, Thessaloniki, Berea, etc. Paul gave the command that they're be no divisions. Christ delivered the church FROM the law of sin and death.

You might be reading a Version. KJV

@Lon Spector James and Paul perfectly agreed on doctrine though. No division.

@@bethbartlett5692 The best translation into English it is.

@Lon Spector Jewish genetically, Christian Spiritually Apostles. Yes sir.

Persecuted minority Once it was all over the Roman empire the movement became known as the church from thense 2 western sects grew out of the east

Actually given acts of the apostles it wont damn us not to but we have to fallow all the laws of the Torah eitherwise we are in sin and not in good relationship with God. Well all of em but the sacrificial and dietary - holidays are optional - dietary was taken out thanks to the first eccumenical council of Jerusalem after peter had a dream however I'm glad Jesus as God made all food kosher because I love shrimp and clams top of my food list

That's stupid "the jews dont want them cause their christian and Christian's dont want em for being jews" Loose slot of richness to the traditions that way

The laws sure Jesus not God cant go with em there

That's one way to put it

I see Zeus also!

I keep thinking they’re saying “he’s a tall tall man”

They are being humorous, “he’s a tall, tall man.”

And yet using divination happened in the old Testament. Drawing lots. Using a dredel.

ARE you talking about the Church that Jesus told Peter that in this rock I will build my church? Its not a Literal Church, its a Religion.

@@nocomment4578You write: *"ARE you talking about the Church that Jesus told Peter that in this rock I will build my church? Its not a Literal Church, its a Religion"* - By Сhurch we mean followers of Christ. The Сhurch of Christ was destroyed in the first century, and for 2,000 years mankind has seen only false churches, of which God does not testify by His power, that is, by miracles. What can we know about the Church of Christ? What was she like? We know about the Church of Christ only what is known from the books of the New Testament. We do not know of any other Church of Christ outside the New Testament. What was the Church of Christ in the books of the New Testament? Certainly not symbolic and not invisible, but a strictly hierarchical organization consisting of believers baptized with the Holy Spirit, where the Gifts of the Holy Spirit were manifested. As written: *"Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular. And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues."* (1 Corinthians 12:27-28). This was the Church of Christ in the first century, but for 2000 years we no longer see such a Church of Christ, there are no Apostles, no prophets, no one has miraculous powers and gifts of healing. But we see gatherings of people headed only by teachers speaking in the name of Christ, but not having the gifts of the Holy Spirit. Jesus said: *"Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.* *So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following..."* (Mark 16:15-20). I would like to draw your attention to these words: *"the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following".* that is, miracles reinforce the word of God and they are important for the preaching of the teachings of Jesus. For 2000 years, including our time, we have not seen any believers who have accompanied or are accompanying these signs. But in the books of the New Testament we read that in the first century, believers performed many miracles. As written: *“And Stephen, full of faith and power, did great wonders and miracles among the people”* (Acts 6:8). *“Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul, declaring what miracles and wonders God had wrought among the Gentiles by them”* (Acts 15:12). *"Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria, and preached Christ unto them. And the people with one accord gave heed unto those things which Philip spake, hearing and seeing the miracles which he did. For unclean spirits, crying with loud voice, came out of many that were possessed with them: and many taken with palsies, and that were lame, were healed. And there was great joy in that city"* (Acts 8:5-8). Where are Stephanes, Barnabas, Pauls in our time? Where is Philip, who brings great joy to the cities? In which church do the blind gain sight? Where are the lame and bedridden jumping for the joy of being healed? Where are demons cast out? Where are the dead raised? Where are the Prophets? Where do they lay hands on the sick and get rid of sickness? Such miracles are not performed in any church, anywhere in the world. Jesus said: *“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.”* (John 14:12). But where are these believers now doing the works of Jesus and even more than Jesus himself did? The Church of Christ was destroyed in the first century and for 2000 years false churches appear that claim to be the Church of Christ but do not have the testimony of God, that is, miracles. It was by miracles that God testified about the Church of Christ, just as he testified about Jesus. As written: *“Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:”* (Acts 2:22). God testified about Jesus, and then about the Church of Christ by miracles. But the Church of Christ was destroyed in the same way as Christ was killed in due time, and therefore the signs and wonders that accompanied the Church ceased, and now She has been buried for 2000 years, but will rise in the last days as Jesus rose again. The prophecy of the death and resurrection of the Church is present in the parable of the ten virgins (Matthew 25:1-13). "Revelation" also prophesies about the emergence of the Church: *“And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:”* (Revelation 12:1). The emergence of the Church will just be a great sign of the imminent Coming of Christ.

As people need shelter, then communicate with symbols, intra neighborly connection is possible. As much archeology work is explored, no matter where, it’s great to associate with religion, it’s an America & Canada trait.

@Daniel Paulson there is no god, mans invention of his shortcomings? Wow look at that, must be god?

Satanis God’s creation.

@@barbaraolson600 Satan is mans creation! Like gods!

gnostics rejected the old testament No these that hes talking bout would b the judaizers or ebonites

@@nickdixon8115 There are current Gnostic Catholics that do accept a pre Constatine Old Testament and all the Gospels - including the Nag Hammadi Finds. They were the few that refused Constatine's Priests versions at the Council of Nice a. Its a different venue of reference, this application of Gnostic, a label applied to these people in the 4th Century. Their point, the more original Jesus Teachings Followers had a clarity on the subjects that to the more Judai-Christians sounded like the Gnostics you reference.

Ha ha

@@2degucitas There is a prophecy accounting such things.

I agree. Doesn't help that Joseph of Armathea and, Mary and Martha, plus several disciples were put on a boat without a sail and pushed out into the Mediterranean. They all went to southern europe. Mary was left in France and Joseph went to Glastonbury where he knew people in the tin trade. With significant followers gone it left a gap ready tp be filled.

Peter was the head of the church james and john were in the quorum of the 12 but held higher authority then the other apostles. But peter was the rock and that rock is not what u think its revelation he would recieve the word of god and run the affairs of the church. James may have become apostate not beliving that christ was the son of god and splinterued. Paul is enthusiastic in some epistles it seems like the other bretheren are correcting some of his false doctrines. What this all says is early christianity quickly fell apart after the death of the messiah. It didnt last long and the romans saw an opportunity to solidify their reign with a religion that paul was spreading like wildfire and christ became the superpower that romans and Christians could get behind. Nothing is what it was. The bible has an agenda even tho it is a holy book ots used to enslave man. Because the plain and precious truths which were omitted or plainly erased. Thank god for the restoration in 1830 and the prophet joseph smith and the book of mormon.

I agree. Using the facts of history to support a preferred outcome. Politicians call it quality spin. But I enjoy the content, so I can extract what seems to be a fact but still aware there is an agenda, which we all have both conscious and subconscious. Here, we start with a statement from a professor that we dont know what "minim" means but then go on to state it means "the others" and a whole narrative is built around that and why they disappeared. The christians were a threat to the jews so naturally they tried to sideline them is my opinion. Mary Magdalene on the other hand would be a reason for a christian underground. Religion doesnt change over night, its evolves, even today.

@@alyssasimms Thank you, Alyssa; I’m a slow learner and you bring his natural familiarity interpreted so I can understand important point.

So. Give us a better explanation then.

He does a lot of speculating in his films. He is an Orthodox Jew. He is trying to prove that Christianity is not truth while maintaining that Judaism is of God.

@@sunshine87654 Saying that Simcha Jacobovici is simply bend on 'trying to disprove' christianity is also speculation - and speculation of a rather crude, and to say the least, rude sort.

@@thysvanzyl2782 It's not speculation. He is Jewish and he doesn't believe that Jesus was the Messiah. He has been criticized for the way he uses archeology. What he does is not good science. If you don't believe me just research it thoroughly.

@@sunshine87654 Simcha Jacobovici does not claim to be infallible. As a film director, journalist, author and writer he has won numerous international awards. Him being Jewish (and orthodox) has nothing to do with the price of eggs. What he in his heart of hearts really makes of Jesus of Nazareth neither you or I can know. Do yourself a favour and check out Jacobovici's Secrets of Christianity - 106 - The Roman Army's Secret Christians. Watch it right to the end !