SEIKO SHOGUN SPB191 Full Review | Seiko Titanium Professional Dive Watch | Seiko Shogun SBDC131

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@Darklanza 3 года назад

We need a comparison between this and the white samurai!! PLEASE!!!

@mcj5644 Год назад

Agreed. The watches seem so alike!

@mohdtariqmohdzailan6386 Год назад

👍🏻

@Hialeah1925 5 месяцев назад

YES!!

@marcpizzutiello8649 Год назад

Great review! I picked one up last summer. It sees a lot of wrist time. The Titanium is gorgeous and so light you really forget sometimes that you have it on. I picked up a grey with white stripe elastic nato strap that really compliments the bezel. 70 hour power reserve is crazy! Only negative for me was that the metal keeper on the silicone strap was not solid, it had a tiny space and it would constantly pinch my skin, so I replaced the strap. Easy fix. Again great video!

@IsaacCheck 2 года назад

Great Video! Thanks for showing the watch by comparing it with different watches and putting it on your wrist. Is it me, or is the '30' on the bezel misaligned at the 6 O'clock mark? I've noticed many Seiko watches has this same issue, including the SPB 213 I reviewed. This issues really should not happen for a watch at this price. Seiko should really pay more attention to their QC, especially to their Prospex line.

@walterlee4796 3 года назад

Citizen Promaster immediately came to mind, sold mine to a buddy a few years back

@GuideauxPelagos 2 года назад

Being fortunate with an SBGX115 I was happy to see people avoiding the all Ti black one... I really got that one for a steal this week.

@AnitaSpankyBB 2 года назад

Watched your review of this and the black version - plus a few other review of the Shogun - just pulled the trigger on the white version, brand new, 50% off from an AD - happy days 🙂🙂🙂

@dazzarazza6708 3 года назад

I bought a Citizen BJ7111 51M a couple of months back for $399 AUD. They retail for around $900 but got it on sale. Sure it's an eco drive, but it's full titanium case and bracelet, with proper milled clasp and saphire. It's a promaster and it's iso certified to 200m. Oh...and it's also a GMT. If you want an auto, Citizen do a NY7111 51M in titanium also. Yes it's not a 6r35 but it's less than half the price of the Seiko. I love my Seiko divers, but just putting it out there that titanium is available at realistic prices. Cheers for the review, it is a beautiful watch none the less.

@paulpadua2568 3 года назад

I watched this review so many times and ended up buying one even if I have a 6 3/4" wrist. The white dial is awesome! Great review!

@EscapementWatch 3 года назад

Glad I could help. Grats!

@paulpadua2568 3 года назад

Thank you. Glad i found your channel.

@1malikalik Год назад

@@paulpadua2568 Hi Paul, congrats on your purchase. I also have a 6.75 wrist and am seriously considering the Shogun inspite of its huge size but thanks for your reassurance.

@FreakyBedro Год назад

Awesome watch. Thanks for the review. Where can I find a titanium band to compliment this watch? curved or straight endlinks no problem.. Or is it ok if I slap a stainless steel bracelet on it? would there be clear contrast between the 2 metals?

@Newtypenewtype 3 года назад

Such a clean look...Was hoping they'd trim it down given their move to smaller cases of late, but alas...

@Bennie_Bee6 3 года назад

Great video again Falling Titan. I love the fact that you review multiple variations/colours of the same watch as it really gives context and allows for better comparison..esp when side x side with other watches for scale. I was disappointed by the SPB189 esp the inflated price but now seeing the white dial which I never really considered...its stunning and much better value. I also love the Lumebrite Yellow hue from the indices as they contrast well with the plain white dial. Just to note you mentioned not many Divers made with white dial. There's more than you might think. Omega Seamaster/Tag Heurer for a start. Tag makes a gorgeous calibre 5 Auto AquaRacer Diver with white dial and orange seconds hand. Would love to see some of these brands in the channel in the future. Keep up the great work.👌

@EscapementWatch 3 года назад

Omega is going to become an official ad at kovar jewelers next year so I'll probably get a lot of omegas on the channel...except the sea master I'm not allowed to review that one because he knows I'm going to trash it

@Bennie_Bee6 3 года назад

@@EscapementWatch lol. I know. You've always said you'll really strip it apart if you get one. Rightly so. Look forward to seeing more brands appearing in 2021. Still love the Seiko/Rado/Oris too though!!!

@muhammadsyafiqahmadhisham8854 3 года назад

I buy it after watched your reviewed. Thank you So much and i love this Shogun! 😉

@EscapementWatch 3 года назад

Glad to hear it!

@chrislutz5485 2 года назад

Just picked up this watch today!, love it. Went to pick up another watch but tried this on and changed my mind on the spot

@EscapementWatch 2 года назад

Good choice!

@Hialeah1925 5 месяцев назад

Where at?

@WestCoastAce27 3 года назад

I’ll stick w my Helm Komodo white dial. Not titanium but even better looking and a fraction of the cost. But great review; very thorough.

@SigurdKempf Год назад

What size does the buckle fit? I wanna move it to another strap that takes a 20mm buckle. Thanks!

@lucacadianalbert 3 года назад

Love those coasters - have several on my home desk right now. Love that white dial...wow. But the size and misalignment not so much.

@EscapementWatch 3 года назад

Totally agree!

@kogelroy 2 года назад

Does anybody know what the reference for a rubber strap is ? I have the black dial version and want the strap. Thanks in advance 😊

@chenyu4453 3 года назад

Great review as always! Can you confirm if the buckle and keeper are also made of titanium? (I have nickel allergy)

@MichaelTaylor-oy7sf 2 года назад

I have a nickel allergy too and was told by the AD that they are steel.

@dailythomson 2 года назад

They are titanium. I'm considering moving them across to a leather strap

@breaktime3269 3 года назад

Nice watch, many thanks for video review.

@EscapementWatch 3 года назад

Glad you liked it

@red75v67 3 года назад

You could try Zelos Swordfish Ti. I love it on rubber but the bracelet is great too with a cool quick adjust clasp.

@EscapementWatch 3 года назад

Great suggestion!

@lanny89 2 года назад

Any chance you still have a discount code for this? I’m in love with this watch. Newbie to Seiko

@EscapementWatch 2 года назад

Code not working on all seikos....But call up Kavar jewelers and let them know I sent you.

@S_Angel 3 года назад

Nice white dial. Looks like a Seiko monster inspired specifically the dial indices and the bezel insert arabic inlay of , 30, 45. Should be called Shogun Monster. :)

@EscapementWatch 3 года назад

Yes, you are right

@nkmsvwde5612 2 года назад

Great video, would you think its worth upgrading from a king samurai? Bezel looks great on this and having the plain white face opposed to the waffle on the samurai definitely looks cleaner.

@EscapementWatch 2 года назад

Its worth it if you love titanium and the look. I think I'd stay with the sammy.

@sopapillas6398 2 года назад

@Lee Hey Lee, mind tossing in a link for the discounted Shogun?

@wed265 3 года назад

Have you done a vid on Grand Seiko diver.. I think it's beautiful

@EscapementWatch 3 года назад

Unfortunately not. I have no access to any Grand Seiko. Too small of a channel. If I'm still on youtube on a regular basis in a few years and the channel grows they might lend me some watches and I can feature them!

@linsidtapongot9820 3 года назад

bought one after watching this video! more power

@EscapementWatch 3 года назад

Great to hear!

@sopapillas6398 2 года назад

I just started digging into this watch. It's not talked about as much as the 62MAS SPB series, but it looks like we can always count on FT for a review! I think I might like the case geometry of the Shogun even more than the 62MAS, but the case size is massive, even for my 7.5"! I imagine the titanium will help it wear much more comfortably than a similarly sized steel watch. Another bit of a turn off that you pointed out was the pressed dial. That has to be the reason the lume isn't as good as other Seiko models with applied indices. What were they thinking with that. I think these would have been a hit if they made it in 40.5, and perhaps with applied indices. They seem to have faded from relevance compared to the SPB143/5/9, which is still often seen and talked about in forums.

@EscapementWatch 2 года назад

This old video has picked up traction recently. Strange! But Seiko has become a master of pressed dials. Even the SLA051 is pressed and the lume is pretty good. Rumors are also, the sla055 is pressed but that one I'm on the fence on as the indices seem a bit to deep and they have that striped finish. And for sure a 40ish shogun would be a homerun. Hopefully next gen!

@sopapillas6398 2 года назад

@@EscapementWatch No way the SLA055 is pressed! The edges of the markers are way too crisp! That one is probably my favorite Seiko release this year. Would have been nice if they'd stuck the 8L55 in there, or derived an 8L from the 9S65 to compete with Tudor's in house. Although I suppose it out classes the BB58 in every other way. Appreciate the response!

@cvb6089 3 года назад

🤔 Certina has a titanium diver at 1000 euros. And i'm currently wearing my Edox class 1 daydate titanium 500 meters dive watch it's from 2007 and already had a ceramic bezel. The price was 1000 euros at the time.

@goldbond1180 3 года назад

I'd love an orange dial one.

@cedarcanoe 3 года назад

Beautiful watch but why is it so huge?

@vict9062 3 года назад

Hi Falling, now I understand why the 41 is so much money, it's bcoz of a collaboration of 3 parties. Seiko, Beams and Tora-San. Hehehe Found out it is a movie watch in their local national, unlike Willard, movie history was shown internationally , thus the popularity.

@EscapementWatch 3 года назад

love the 41!

@KristianAlvestad 3 года назад

Citizen Promaster NY0100-50 at about 350-500 USD. Automatic Titanium ISO certified diver

@neogeijutsu 2 года назад

I just pulled the trigger... actually, that strap is one of the factors why went all in. It looks like Samurai shoulder guards, fitting for a Shogun.

@EscapementWatch 2 года назад

Grats and yes it does look like the shoulder gaurds

@neogeijutsu 2 года назад

@@EscapementWatch Thank you! very helpful review.

@canonyeo4286 3 года назад

I enjoy watching your videos. Humour which is quite lacking in the watch community. You know a lot about seiko and have direct contact with them. The facts are well presented. There's genuine love for the brand. Talk about enjoying the watch rather than just being too serious about the negatives. Two thumps up. My old shogun on a leather strap weighs 75g. ln comparison my GS sbga231 titanium diver on a rubber strap weighs 91g.

@EscapementWatch 3 года назад

I appreciate that! did u notice any improvements in sound on this one? curious...its first video I tried a new tech with sound.. and new macro setup for smoother macros.....take note there are about 20 old vids that still are not live that do not use these new techniques. Now 75g you measure correctly? for sbdc007 on strap? hmm so the case is different although they seem exact same to me. please confirm if you have time double check as im genuinely curious.

@canonyeo4286 3 года назад

@@EscapementWatch l didn't notice the change in sound but it sounds good. I pay attention next time. I weigh them on 2 different scales. Only l gram difference. But, remember, the shogun is on leather strap.

@Vow247 3 года назад

Are there significant differences between this case and the Samurai case? I’m trying to justify purchasing this, but I already own a Samurai.

@EscapementWatch 3 года назад

they are different overall shapes but nothing dramatic. I'd say if you have a sammy skip the shogun

@Vow247 3 года назад

@@EscapementWatch cheers, appreciate it.

@malkinmalone 3 года назад

I think exquisite has it for 1350 USD?

@edcfyau 3 года назад

Citizen NY0100-50ME Promaster Automatic Diver 200m Titanium would be the value alternative to this watch

@benlait3696 2 года назад

The original MM200 had filled lume indices if I remember correctly. The Shogun has lume stickers. I am a bit disappointed with the indices on the Shogun if I'm honest, but other than that it's a great watch and extremely comfortable on my wrist. Just purchased one for £666 on a black friday deal.

@rudyvirupakshaiah5818 2 года назад

it's only £575 @ Hilliers fella, if you want to return and repurchase...

@benlait3696 2 года назад

@@rudyvirupakshaiah5818 yes I noticed that I got a refund on the difference. 👍😜

@rudyvirupakshaiah5818 2 года назад

@@benlait3696 good man, makes it a fantastic bargain, half price.

@benlait3696 2 года назад

@@rudyvirupakshaiah5818 Yes rare to see a Seiko Prospex at half price. Its definitely not worth the RRP though.

@ericgrace9995 2 года назад

I'm doing this backwards. Reading reviews after I've bought the watch. Couldn't miss the chance of a 50% off deal from an AD. I'm from England and this is the second Seiko I've bought in the last 6 months. I picked up a O53J1 with a 33% discount and I'm noticing a trend of some really good deals out there from ADs on Seikos (£180 discount on a £530 King Samurai White) Is this to make up for lost Covid Business ? Or is this a new approach to Seiko pricing....giving substantial discounts for Black Friday or January sales while generally increasing prices.

@EscapementWatch 2 года назад

It really depends on the model. Shogun is not a volume seller, so expect big discounts to move them.

@craigevans810 3 года назад

Christopher ward do a lovely titanium watch,check that out

@malkinmalone 3 года назад

Yeah but you have to pay to import it if you’re in the us because there is no AD here. Nice watches though.

@EscapementWatch 3 года назад

Seiko Week Continues here at E&W. *first vid with new macro setup and different sound profile* Anyone notice? You will be able to tell moving forward which video is new from the coaster. Tons of old videos still havent gone live YET. But if the coaster is black. its a real new vid. Hope you all enjoy your weekend and Enjoyed Seiko week. Maybe 1 more vid on MM200 Sunday. If I can find the time! -Falling 😁👍

@kikomachine8276 3 года назад

The camera work is amazing FT!

@zzz0928zz 3 года назад

White or gray Which one is your favorite

@EscapementWatch 3 года назад

white

@DesmondSG 3 года назад

Any chapter ring misalignment... on the coaster? xD

@EscapementWatch 3 года назад

none!

@jonatansterling397 Год назад

My Shogun is flawless

@gmotionedc5412 2 года назад

Yes the dial needed more. Or better, more dial colors!!!!

@nsjong 3 года назад

Seiko began using cheaper print/stick lume on their mid-upper Prospex. The days of filled lume (ie. MM200) are gone, a byproduct of cutting costs. Ironically they're charging more for these models than ever. Also insert is not titanium; it's anodized, hence aluminum.

@inthatcase3467 2 года назад

It looks completely off on this watch; not entirely filled seems like a clumsy job for a mid-tier Prospex. Big disappointment.

@Andrew.W75 3 года назад

Nice watch, looks similar to a Samurai with the new handset. A bit too big for small wrists though. You are really tearing it up with your Seiko reviews at the moment, the quality is excellent!

@EscapementWatch 3 года назад

Thanks for watching!

@yaaxarr8977 2 года назад

Trying to buy an old Shogun ( 007) but this white dial is an eye catcher buddy. Great review as usual. Ty!!

@EscapementWatch 2 года назад

Old one all the way. I reviewed it long ago.

@yaaxarr8977 2 года назад

@@EscapementWatch just watched it! All the same… great review 👌🏻❗️

@ravipanjini1253 3 года назад

If this was 40mm I'd have to get it!

@hattyfarbuckle 2 года назад

Love everything but the cyclops

@wongpantai9710 3 года назад

Im surprised nobody noticed the quality control issue at 6:52 look at unlumed section at 10 o'clock

@EscapementWatch 3 года назад

if I remember correctly thats how they all are each marker the lume doesn't go to the end.

@pizza.doctor 3 года назад

classic bezel and chapter ring misalignment

@jonatansterling397 Год назад

Mine is flawless

@wed265 3 года назад

My Seiko white dial King Samurai that you already reviewed is much nicer than this much more expensive Shogun. I put my king Samurai on a strap code hexagon metal bracelet and it looks like a $3,000 watch. For $1,500 this looks much cheaper to me. My dial looks a lot nicer and classier too I think. And I paid $350 for my white dial King Samurai brand new. Best steel in the world

@EscapementWatch 3 года назад

Good choice!

@gorillaofjohn15 Год назад

i own both. And i have the white king samurai on hexad strapcode too. But this feel much better made and high quality on the wrist. you have to spend a bit of time to appreciate the subtle quality. Built is much finer and tighter too. My white samurai, was one picked from 3 pieces, because all had QC issues with the bezel. It is vague at best. The shogun is a totally different animal. ANd i actually think the shogun looks more expensive on the wrist. It is less loud, but looks more expensive.

@DaTryHardCamper 2 года назад

Zelos is the best for titanium mako v3 ti micro brand under 700 usd.

@swright5690 3 года назад

Crikey that is a nice looking watch but I doubt my 6 3/4 wrist could handle it.

@EscapementWatch 3 года назад

Yea a bit big

@PepeDeezNutz 3 года назад

That price is Nutz

@peterklausner9727 2 года назад

Helm Vanuatu Titanium is very affordable 300m ISO certified diver

@hattyfarbuckle 2 года назад

My wishlist titanium "diver" is German. No bezel or crown guard but 300m depth so might not be others idea of a diver. Tutima M2 Coastline.

@eykinhuang2076 3 года назад

7:04 misalignment detected, prove the watch is Seiko authentic.. 🤣😂

@jonatansterling397 Год назад

Mine is flawless

@ayanami808 Год назад

It’s really close to the king samurai.

@kikomachine8276 3 года назад

Titanium on rubber strap feels like nothing on the wrist... Great watch but not for me. Thanks for the video FT!

@EscapementWatch 3 года назад

Totally agree

@davidalvarez5929 3 года назад

Stunning but too big.

@inthatcase3467 2 года назад

Big but too stunning. 😅

@sebastiancallapolanco9084 2 года назад

@@inthatcase3467 concern

@inthatcase3467 2 года назад

@@sebastiancallapolanco9084 ?

@sebastiancallapolanco9084 2 года назад

@@inthatcase3467 i concur with u bro

@mariosimas 3 года назад

Stuning, Stuning dial!!!! but for me only with the titanium bracelet

@malkinmalone 3 года назад

Me too. I emailed one dealer to ask them if i could buy this watch and the titanium bracelet separately. No response of course.

@bryce6290 3 года назад

Whats your wrist size?

@EscapementWatch 3 года назад

6.5in

@bryce6290 3 года назад

@@EscapementWatch too big right? Thanks

@bryce6290 3 года назад

@@EscapementWatch too long lug to lug right? Thanks

@bryce6290 3 года назад

@@EscapementWatch you think its too big

@garychowhm Год назад

Don’t really like the white dial…..

@sasajugovic6984 2 года назад

Amazing looking watch but like the all other machines from Seiko world... Made in Japan and it's a Samurai

@alexnormal3031 Год назад

good watch for hunting in Africа

@neerajkumar-vp9yu 3 года назад

Can I get it in India!! Thank you so much brother ❤️

@EscapementWatch 3 года назад

sorry bro the company is not allowed to ship to there.

@michaels3003 3 года назад

Shogun rhymes with the word moon, not the word gun...

@martynanstis1620 3 года назад

That chapter ring looks off. Yup it’s a seiko. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Nice dial and hands though.

@scottlauren3145 3 года назад

Its crazy how we literally expect Seiko bezels to NOt line up. If it does then it feels like a bonus.

@lucacadianalbert 3 года назад

yup same problem it's predecessor had. I've only ever seen a handful of Shoguns with perfect alignment.

@Bobsyouruncle-ru9io 3 года назад

$1725?? Canadians using magic beans for currency?! I'll stick with pounds sterling

@awnik99 3 года назад

Great watch BUT 1. 1500$ for non-ceramic bezel and 21600 bph is just crazy 2. Silicone strap? How about putting an actual rubber strap on such an expensive watch? 3. Even at 1500$ quality control is still shit. Orient makes perfectly aligned watches at 100$ 4. People whining about it beeing too big are just trolls. My wrists are 14,5 cm and i rock 44 cm watches all the time. Its not 1960. Most 40< mm watches are outdated and not wearable if you actually want to wear a proper mens watch

@miroiboii8936 3 года назад

Doesnt line up!! Come on seiko, how hard can that be??!

@TheCdM1981 2 года назад

Bracelet to rubber strap less than $100 difference now. Both under $1400 imported from Japan. And you’re recommendation of wrist size is way off. A 51mm lug to lug is more than fine on a below 7in wrist but should be above 6.5 imho. The issue is the flatness of the case. Divers should have a little more of a rounded lug set when they run bigger. The Shogun doesn’t wear big though. All that matters is there is no over hang on the wrist. Wear a strap and it makes the Watch look smaller due to the naturally tighter fit on the wrist.

@bijakbijak4024 3 года назад

king samurai is white waffle, i hate it

@asababo3422 3 года назад

Too big , 40 mm better

@trevorhofmann1562 2 года назад

Sorry, but $1,700 CAD for a watch that houses a totally basic, run of the mill movement (unregulated and known for being very hit and miss when it comes to accuracy) is way too high. The case is well done, but the pressed dial is another shocker for this price range, and Seiko straps are normally let downs. I think the better buy is a King Samurai (white dial diver), which wears more wrist sizes, offers a ceramic bezel, sapphire crystal and the 4R movement, which I've always found similarly accurate, if not a bit better after a few years on the wrist,, even though it's basically the same thing. Regarding the Mido: similar if not better finishing, much better ETA movement (similar to a Seiko 8L, although regulated and COSC certified), and they don't hold their value in North America, so they're great pre-owned buys (keep your eye out in the classifieds). Love the look of this one, but other than the titanium case and slightly better finishing, the King Samurai is a wayyyyy better value. Thanks for the review.

@rostam79 2 года назад

No good deal...

@tonyaguilar7779 Год назад

I'm so disappointed with this watch, after a year and half that I've owned it, in 21 hours, it gets 1 minute and 50 seconds behind.

@larsvaldemarlarsen1528 9 месяцев назад

I don't think you understand the bracelet on this model. it's the best chain I've ever tried .. it doesn't matter if it's mild or press claps, they do that to keep the weight down and it is stong .