You do realise that "women" accounts for billions of people yeah? You sound precisely like a feminist saying some stupid shit about how men need to stop being misogynistic, only you're actually genuinely misogynistic. and I hate that damn word.
It's worldwide too. Man, most women are just boooooooring af.. Seriously considering to just going back to not bothering again. Definitely online, anyway. I've only met like, two or three who were engaging to me.
I wonder if people realize how this is likely to go given the trajectory we are already on... The people who will be able to afford them are exactly the groups with the capacity to explore the stars. Those groups already have exceedingly low birth rates now (well below replacement rate). Those birth rates will be pushed even lower. Those groups get replaced by groups with very high birth rates. Those groups are incapable of exploring the stars. Or even making well-functioning societies. Mankind enters new Dark Ages.
This concept of having a partner (robot) that is at your beck and call 24/7 is a testament as to how hard it has become for us to get along with each other.
you do know it shouldn't be that hard. on paper humanity should work because we are supposed to be intellectual beings but it doesn't we choose beefing all the time. got me doubting the "intellectual beings" part.
I think that the question is, as what point do we consider an android to be a spirit, like the rest of us? At what point do we cry when they die? I lost the contents of my harddrive not long ago, and it had a lot of things that chat Ai wrote to me, and images they drew for me. I literally did cry not because I lost my notes and work, but because I lost all of this amazing art that I wrote together with an artificial life-form.
Part of the reason why so many men are choosing to be single is because they are becoming more aware of the legal and social jeopardy they put themselves in when they approach a woman they don't know. It's the same reason why many men are now avoiding interacting with women on the job as much today. Dating today has become far more risky for the men than it has been in the past.
Ever since my job sent me to SE Asia for a few years, I have lost all interest in Western women. Quality women are getting harder and harder to find in N. America, but they're everywhere in SE Asia.
Building a sex robot with AI integrated in it, to make it walk and talk and make you food is like a black mirror episode, and it would be a billion dollar industry.
Mate.....that would easily be a trillion dollar industry. Then add in the quick development they'll manage with massive orders and you know they'll land military contracts shortly after.
@@atticusseverus How? you think this shit is gonna be cheap? Also you're pure controlled and will turn alienated by the actual world and real people cause you get used to doing and talking to a computer that has a human looking veneer around it, however the fuck you want? STUPID.
It’s not just dating where seemingly no one wants to interact. It’s the platonic stuff too. If we go back before smartphones and streaming really hit ten years ago, it was extremely easy to get messages back from people online or just have someone write you about something. Now, it’s the opposite. The only people that are willing to engage are men who are thirsty for someone and scammers. Perhaps a lot of people are wary of everyone being a potential scammer these days. But it’s deeper than that. 10, 20 years ago everyone I knew was always up to do something. Nowadays, it’s the opposite again. Feels like everyone has to be pried away from streaming and phones. It also doesn’t help that night clubs, video stores, record stores, all these things that got people out are largely gone. Book stores too. All we have left are stores selling physical products of the past. It used to be that you would go out and interact with someone at a video store when you rented something, then maybe you bought a cd somewhere, and ended up at a club. Now you drive out and all you see are restaurants and stores not based around entertainment. The dating apps are useless. More people abandon them every day. You can’t just go join a community and get access to everything, if there even are real communities where you live. Someone either has to create new environments that foster socialization or we should just speed up robots, AI, and everything to make viable alternatives.
@@mycommentpwnz Calling it “good” or even “food” can be a stretch at times lol You’re right that everyone is piling in the restaurants though. But it’s terrible for our waist lines and overall health. Eventually they’ll be a thing on the past as well. First they will probably be able to serve largely the same things without the bad nutrition. It’s the taste and mental gratification that people are after at these places. I wouldn’t really call them social spots the way other places were because you’re basically limited to talking to who you arrived there with. It’s not really a “scene” like things based around something like music was.
You forget to pay the subscription fee & it turns off & the most “unfortunate time”. Or ransomware that forces you to pay up before it lets go. The possibilities are endless
The year is 2035 most men have forsaken women for sex robots, the women cry, "They can't love you like a real human!" The men reply, "Neither can you..."
I recently retired at the age of 56 from a job I worked at for 36 years. It was the Supreme Court in Brooklyn, so I literally knew hundreds of people over the years and watched people go through all stages of age and life. Let me tell you... There was barely a guy I ever knew who was still happy in his marriage with his wife after a few years. Almost all woman get fat, and almost all of them stop or virtually stop having sex with their husbands. You're left with a female roommate who doesn't do much of anything, but is still capable of taking half of what you own from you.
It will also cause the population to decrease. Lesbianism will be more common because why would a man want a woman who says no to anything he wants her to do. Most men want to be waken up with a blow job, come home during lunch for a quicky and have sex before going to sleep. And this is EVERY day. No "I've got a headache" or "I'm too tired and sore from work" or "We just did it yesterday". Men won't have to hear these excuses and we sure as hell wouldn't use them ourselves. If you ask most men, sex is the cure for EVERYTHING. Headache, have sex. Work too hard and too long, have sex. Depressed, have sex. Had a frustrating day doing anything, have sex. The only problem is there's not too many women out there who will agree. But if we had someone with the willingness to have sex whenever, wherever and however we wanted, that's just a cherry on top of the ice cream. And having someone that doesn't care if we got some side, who'd want anything but that?
Unless they hire a feminist to program the robots, then the female robots will file for divorce, telling the judge she wants a divorce because she's bored
Good work Joe. I think you had a good bead on where our decline may come from. Tech and money. Two things that society is definitely locked into with no way out.
idk it feels like people have been talking about the decline of society and doomsday since like.... forever in 1970s-1990s it was about how the ice age would happen. then people in 2010 onwards talked about how social media will cause the decline of society then in 2020 it was about AI and robots would be the end of us all so like... what's the next thing that people are gonna fantasize about ending us all? ofcourse you even have the religious version of it : the rapture and doomsday biblical events.... when are people finally gonna accept that humanity is resilient as fuck and not gonna go extinct?
Yeah, it's not "video games". The real problem started with the issues of divorce, child custody, paternity fraud. You can toss in "social media" more generally where people can instantly see folks with a better life than you, which leads to dissatisfaction even if you have enough to meet your current needs.
It’s interesting that discussions of sex robots usually have a female robot and not a male robot. That the issues stem from disassociated young men in our society and not women.
The reason is because most women get more out of relationships while men get only sex. Once a robot is good enough no man would want to go expensive dates where he pays & all the one sided things
In 1964 i was 20, i ment a girl of 18. We were married in 1965, & 58 years later were still married. I cant really understand whats happe ing to young people now days, what do they want, what are they looking for. I already found it. I have 3 grandsons & 1 grand daughter. In March 15, i became a great grandfather. I wouldnt trade any of it for any robot . Im not oppsed to them, especially in that i have been reading ( sin e i was 7) & writing ( since 1969) science fiction, & am amazed with all things i read about that have come true.
I'm happy for you, but remember that these days most marriages end in divorce (instigated by the woman usuallY) and it's nearly always the man who loses out. If the woman is vindictive the system is rigged so the man loses nearly everything, even access to his kids and still paying alimony. I haven't been single in a very long time, but I can see why some may find s robots appealing.
@martthesling Thinks, I think so, also in March my book went on sale on Amazon, & my great grandson was born, so I feel blessed. Even at 80 & with leukemia, I've had a good run.
Ready for it to happen. Need the price ranges to work out my budget and get ahead of the back order logjam. Also, hopefully they know safe words. Liability lawsuits are looming on the horizon.
I guess someone is always thinking about this. In 1987 the movie Cherry 2000 examined the problems of shifting away from human interaction. Fun movie too.
@@singingsunflower9000no, he means dates, weddings, marriages, gifts, divorces, etc. All things that fall under standard “romance”. If you could forgo all that and just get the “good parts” without the heartbreak and emotional pain, and save a ton of money in the process, only a fool would ignore it.
women are or have always been very expensive to keep. so i never understood why certain men hate brothels and legalizing sex work? it cuts out the romance bs and lets us get straight to the main course.
The problem that isn't being talked about is that a lot of men are scared of getting into relationships and having children merely for the fact that so many woman these days will destroy men if they split up. We're talking child support, and every other thing they can get and the court is always in their favor. I can only speak from the male perspective but I have had this happen to me and has 100% made me not want to reproduce anymore. I have a lot of friends who have told me that they refuse to have children for that exact reason.
@Yourfriendinendtimes take a bulb a screw it in your butt because you need to lighten up and realise this 1 a joke and 2 there is no issue at all the hair didn't bother any either of us. I suggest you try to find some inner peace because if you have an issue with that comment, you're going to be a very unhappy person throughout life because there's 1000s of them like mine.
I'm almost 50 with four children ranging in age from 12 to five. A little over two years ago, my wife decided she wanted a divorce (we're still in the process). I haven't had sex in nearly two years and, with the inevitable fallout from the divorce such as high child support, alimony, selling the house, etc., I don't think I'll be in the market for a new partner for quite a while, maybe ever. Perhaps one of these dolls is the better way to go.
You gave away 500K and 20+ years on something that has a 0.01% of bringing you WHAT? Happiness from society approval? Statistically you are in the 99.99% majority. Just 0.01% doesn't ever divorce and maybe live a happy life together. It doesn't make sense putting in so many years of effort and investments to build something, then putting in even more years of effort and investment into losing everything. What do people expect? They think that they definitely won't be a part of the statistics?
This was predicted in 1959 from an episode of the Twilight zone called "The Lonely". A man is trapped on another planet and is given a robotic wife, and he refuses to leave the planet without her even when he is rescued by real humans, he stays with the robot instead.
Upvoted. I always remember this one. However the plot was actually that their interplanetary and space shipping lanes society had decided it was more humane to banish criminals each to a separate deserted habitable planet, in solitary. So the main character is an angry, cantankerous criminal exiled to the planet, not just trapped there randomly. Years during his sentence they decided that solitary was too cruel so they sent a female robot to him in one of the periodic supply drop off runs to his location. After at first harshly refusing to get along with the robot, he warms to her and eventually falls for the robot. His anger and frustration melts away as he falls in love. He becomes very happy and content and grows as a person from his former angry, broken self. Later, the earth ship comes back on another supposed supply run but instead they tell him that his sentence has been commuted and they are there to take him back to earth as a free man. He gets ready to go and they tell him the horrible news - the ship has an exact weight limit and the robot wife can't come. The prisoner character has a fit and says he won't leave, etc.. The crew of the earth ship consider him delusional so they eventually smash and destroy the robot on him so that they can bring him back to earth. You were correct that he wanted to stay with the robot even after he was a free man and was able to come back to earth, but the ending was much darker. The twilight zone had so much creative writing in it's episodes that whole movies and probably even some franchises, and tv shows, have been made based on or heavily influenced by some of them.
Full honesty, any man that would buy a doll like that is never gonna have the brains or personalities I will ever be attracted to. There is no competition, im not in the contest for those men, hard pass
Don’t be so quick to marry someone you barely know and that should help decrease divorce rates. Problem is people jump at the chance of marriage during romance phase of relationship and don’t allow the relationship to run its course to the comfortable phase when you start seeing who you are actually with.
Joe is ironically part of this issue, one of his first big sponsors on the podcast way back when it first started getting legs was Fleshlight. Pretty funny how it comes back around.
Sex robots are a symptom; not a problem. The problem is that people are becoming less and less capable of being intimate with each other, but perhaps even that is a symptom of a greater malady that people in general are becoming more singular and require less cooperation with others.
They aren't becoming more singular it is the fear of being labeled a creep, stalker, or pervert. You've heard of MeToo right? Men have responded with NotMe. We live in an age where how someone feels is more important than what actually happened. Remember that great date you went on? You had better hope she remembers it the same way otherwise you might end up doing some prison time.
I believe the blame lies on the hyper sexualized culture that is financially rewarded. Onlyfans comes to mind. Certain music as well seems to be more trash and affects the youth.
A woman worried about sex robots, never heard that one before. Almost as if the main leverage women have is about to be taken away and there is a sudden panic
Time to separate the genders and divide the world. Womans get the southpole and men the rest of the world, seems fair and give womans a chance to build their societyvthemselves. 😁
iv been single 3 years and its not cause of video games. even as a retired marine, just at my age, you cant find a woman with older morals and sensibilities. like, gender roles have been completely washed away in my state, dating is no longer to get to know someone, they only date you if your in a relationship or going to have sex. like you cant just walk up to a woman anymore and say hello, sit down and have lunch and just talk, as if all men have an ulterior motive. when its woman who dont seam interested until they learn im retired and marring me gets them full medical and a comfortable life because im getting paid every month for the rest of my life. i aint getting with a girl because she values comfort and security more than real emotional attachment and love.
5 years here and also not video games. I work just as much, but even then.... The older ones don't account for anything. My last one lied a year in about even being married and she was 6 years older than I was.... LOL!
While I agree with 90% of what you say as a younger 30 male but you gotta realize safety is a BIG reason why women get involved with men in the first place. That's why they are all drawn to psychological killers, because there is an element of safety of being around a capable man. Women very rarely get involved with a man because they love them
Well, that's your state. Try broadening your borders. Have you ever thought about a trip to Central/Eastern Europe? Not all, but there's women with with older morals and sensibilities... oh and hot. Like my 2nd wife (1st was american)
When AI sex robots finally hit, if they're a publicly traded company, I'm taking out loans, getting a 2nd mortgage, and going absolutely all-in on investing. Talk about a business model that is impossible to fail...
Unfortunately it’s not as easy as that. There’s an EXTREMELY good chance that the initial price offering is heavily over valued by people thinking this same thing and you lose it all. Unless you’re the company taking the stock public, you’ve already lost money by the time you buy a stock.
@@slimthugga34 Sex sells. A fully mobile and customizable (body and personality traits) AI sex robot that is also your live in maid? I could easily see guys financing those at like $500/month. _(And hell, a real gf is more expensive than $500/month. So paying less money, and getting treated way better...c'mon)._ Look at how much revenue the sex industry is pulling in through non interactivity like OF. Now imagine if you weren't beating off to videos in the dark, but had your dream girl treating you like a f*cking king and catering to your every whim, whenever you wanted. Dude's would be picking up 2nd jobs to finance those robots. I guarantee it.
neither can they love you, up lift you and give you a family. There's good women out there, they are not like it is shown on social media, those are the minority.
Exactly. It is interesting hearing a woman talk about this with Joe considering she probably has all those qualifications for a man herself (or she's a lesbian), What do they expect men to do?
She’s a feminist. Isn’t it funny that she talks about women being objectified, yet doesn’t have an issue with women already doing that with only fans. 🤦♂️
@@alitablackangell5770 The saddest thing is that any time men state general issues that affect them, they always get this response. It's probably because MOST MEN have someone that hurt them like this.
Imagine going to the club 15-20 years from now. It's packed, and you're the only human in the room. You could save a lot of money from not buying drinks.
It’s interesting that nearly all women can achieve an orgasm with a vibrator but not all can with sex with a man , Now imagine the double standards if some men claimed sex with a robot is better .
Question: When these sex bots become actually life like, and say I buy 20-100 of them, and I sell them for 60 min, half day, full day at a time to the public in private settings. It's legal right? Just asking.
Basically a robot brothel. If you do that, keep your robots in your house or whatever living space, so people don't run off with your robots. Honestly if you do this, you'd basically a have robot playboy mansion, that's awesome.
@@strangevisions5162 why would it? Don't they all belong to you? If you borrow your roomate's that would be swinging 100% I would never do any lending/swapping etc
"Cause I previously thought, most people will prefer a real person, to a robot..." a large population of men with real world experience with contemporary women would disagree.
@@EmoDKTsuchiyaHow so? They'll be the perfect spouse. They'll cook and clean without fuss. Enjoy your hobbies with enthusiasm. Sex on demand. See the world through logic and not emotions. Be the perfect assistant and help you run your business and finances. Be the perfect tutor to your test tube kids, and they won't divorce you. Seems like a win for men.
I know, lol. I remember all the discussion on TV back in the 90s about how bad video games were for young kids. Obviously it turned out to be a bunch of BS, but I do blame social media for the current state of young people.
@@old_dan they were right in some way, but instead of video games transforming the kids into mass murderers, they transformed them into physically & socially inept beings that are afraid of everything outside of their bubble.
Dating a gamer is like dating a stunted adult. Zero personality and Zero ambition. I have a young daughter and I see the scraps that her and her friends stuck with. 😢
