let me be your narcissist translator: “I wish Trisha had come to me as a friend” translates to “I wish Trisha had told me she was upset enough to put us on blast, despite how hard we tried to give her the cold shoulder, because THAT WAY we could have gaslit her and convinced her not to speak out on these abuses.” I get it-narc tongue can be a really complex language.
@@madelynbarhorst except j’s rant confirms Trisha’s whole story about Jeffree being just as bad to her on the trip as J was online in his little rant. Abuse isn’t drama. Abuse is creepy. Jeffree.... is creepy. And enabling him isn’t much better.
Facts. It’s really cool to see she finally has real people behind her. I think she has a really good web now and she can actually start working on herself bc she has a support system. I’m excited for whats to come for her.
I am so happy for the whole family, I really wish we all were surrounded by good loving people it doesn't have to be blood it can be just great people with great standards. People like Shane and Jeffree really need to stay in there own shallow world and leave the good hearted people alone. It really goes to show that people can be destroyed by the greedy love of money. I don't understand why people are scared of Jeffree he will get what he has coming to him.
Doing a pallet with Jeffree put Shane in an extremely difficult situation. He basically can't say anything bad about him or back anyone else up that doesn't like him because Jeffree made Shane millions of dollars. It's literally like doing a deal with the devil.
@@hannahwalmer1124 um, no. David and Jason tried to play her out as crazy when she made accusations that eventually were found to be true and/or unsurprising. Ethan actually tries to understand her and doesn't make a joke out of her.
@@askmenother People really did say that, tho. They were like "David really does bring out the best in people" they also said stuff like "I love how happy Trisha is when she's hanging out with David" I remember comments relating to Jason and Trisha being like "I love how Jason treats her. You can really tell she loves him because she's never been treated right before and she's glowing" shit like that. You might not find them now, but definitely at the time, those comments were plentiful.
@@simonaatanasova4076 if she does it will probably be to h3? They’re not afraid to call each other on their shit. But good for you for expecting the worst of someone!!!
The sad part about this is that Trisha would probably be the one getting more backlash from Jeffree and Shane fans if she didn't have the support from Frenemies & H3 fans.
I say this as a just recently former Shane stan; I hope he doesn’t come back. This behavior is so toxic and mean. They’ve shown their cards and it’s time to go.
Honestly, same. During the initial Shane cancellation, I was a bit reluctant to hate on him because I generally like giving everyone the benefit of the doubt, but after seeing this shit, I’m convinced he isn’t going to change for the better. I wasn’t even that big of a fan of the documentaries, I enjoyed his laidback eating videos more. He can stay gone. I will, however, miss the creepy videos...
“She is not a pathological liar, I know she said she used to be; Trisha, I have not known her to lie about anything, she’ll embellish, but she doesn’t lie” is something true friends would say. Shane Dawson is beyond disgusting and he just gets worse day by day. Imagine being able to stand by him even after all this shit.
Not that I recall! And it’s about time! The internet has torn her apart for years without even trying to understand where she’s coming from and this podcast is changing the online narrative for her. It’s good to see.
I think the thing that pisses me off the MOST about Ryland’s “I wish she would have come to me”. Bro as someone who barely likes Trisha from all I see online, *I* know how she feels about shit. Like. She makes her feelings known, for better or worse, about literally everything, to everyone and anyone who will listen. And he expects us all to believe that she DIDNT go to them, her “best friends”, with her real and truest feelings? I don’t think so. Like fuck that dude. :/
@@diobrando366 besides that facet Trisha let’s everyone know how she feels, I’ve been watching her for YEARS she will let you know what’s up with her life wether you want to know or not
Okay but she lies every chance she gets, she over embellishes as Ethan put it all the time. IF she ever truly told shane what was going on im sure he just though she was blowing it out of proportion again. That's classic trish... she says she's never talked shit about anyone but thats a lie too she "exposes" people all the time... its just crazy to me that anyone would think trisha and shane were these super tight bffs. Shane, at least in my eyes, has made it clear in the past who his friend group was. And from what I know there they all distanced themselves due to trisha and some other shit shane was doing at the time but ya we can all continue to pretend that trisha is doing this because she's hurt lol.
Amen. I see her being able to finally stabilize n grow as she starts to feel her real value. I honestly think her problematic behavior will definitely lessen. So nice to see people be real here.
Have you watched the frenemies podcast? Things are not stable with her fiance at all. They didn't even date for an entire year before moving in together and getting engaged. She's also completely changed her entire personality (which is a bpd symptom).
Yeah I’m worried for Trisha. It’s great that she finally has a good support system, but people seem to forget how volatile things were just a few months ago. Her relationship with Moses is moving so fast, and she “changes” every week it seems like. Don’t get me wrong, I genuinely want to see her prosper, but yikes I’m still worried for her. There’s no telling what’s gonna happen. All I know for sure is Ethan is here to stay no matter what Trisha does. Thank god she finally has good people in her life
100% , I’ve been watching a lot about body language. Baselines, positive or negative spikes, clusters ect. When I seen him talk about Trish I was thinking your mouth is saying something but your body is telling us something else.
i think she really started to see it after she said all that about hila and then saw how comforting ethan has been through her breakdowns and everything
Another thing that's crazy to me is that no one is coming to Shane's defense because the only one who ever stuck up for him was trish and now he doesnt have her
She tarnished her own career and reputation by continuously and publicly supporting Shane and he does this shit to her? I’ve been a Shane supporter since his old videos and this really made me dislike him. Tragic.
i dont understand how tiny youtubers can defend him when shane himself discarded all his friends so literally no one is defending him now, not even jeff the person who he sided with. 'but trish exaggerates tells lies and is a bully they say. this isnt about trishs character. it about shane not acting like friend so much so that he's lost all of them
@@GotoMaki4Micah Trisha is known to over exaggerate and be melodramatic but she doesn’t make shit up, at least that’s what I’ve noticed from my time watching her
It’s sad watching this now. Ethan supported Trisha SO damn much through this drama with Shane/Jeffree/HairbyJay/Ryland/James Charles/and probably more I’m forgetting.
So Ryland is just going to pretend like he doesn’t live on Twitter or RU-vid and going to pretend like he’s oblivious to the information about the whole drama? Why are you confused? You aren’t confused.
Once Shane comes back (if he does) I still think he'll bang views can't lie, not saying if he should or shouldn't but he is a YT legend and I think he'll forever have big numbers on YT.
Or he'll jump ship to Jeffree... jeffree always has something to make him "relevant" again, and Ryland is clinging onto any inch of notority he can grasp
The thing you need to understand is that this isn't the first time Shane's done this shit to his "close friends", he's actually known for being one of those people who just casually switch from friend to friend depending on how popular they are since he started doing youtube. He used to be VERY close with Onision back in the day, then it was Blair Fowler, then Joey Graceffa, then Gabbie Hannah, more recently it was Drew Monson, and the list goes on. Not to mention the people that used to work with him and that suddenly stopped appearing on his channel ( Shanna Malcolm, who was basically his token black friend, Destery, Bobby Burns and now Garret and Andrew). It's crazy that this type of thing has been happening for basically a decade now and some people still want to believe he's changed.
Plus Bree (bri?) has spoken out against him. Months and months ago when he was first canceled I think. I trust her cause they seemed super close at the time. 👀
Truth!!! That pissed me off so much. So condescending. She’s not a child throwing a temper tantrum over nothing and forgetting to use her words. She used them. Fucking listen.
Shane has a pattern of feeding people information and encouraging them to speak out on issues while he stays silent, and now he's literally using his boyfriend to speak for him because that's the only person he has left to rely on.
3:42 she had drama with jeffree and hairbyjay... uhm no that was not drama that was two grown men being awefull to her and bullying her to the point that she had to leave early from the trip because she felt so alienated. I would not call that drama i would call that abuse
haven't seen anyone point out that in the jafar strut documentary they talked about Morgan going on a trip and getting made fun just like what happened to Trisha... idk it just adds to the point blank audacity (specially in Ryland like wtf that's your sister dude)
@M i really don't wanna go back and look for it but it has to be somewhere in shane's j* redemption documentaries. basically Morgan had just returned from a brand trip to hawaii (i think) and all these beauty gurus had been awful to her (not to the same extent as j* and company were to trisha i hope) so shane asked j* to talk to her on camera about how awful the beauty community is n shit
“It’s hard for her to express how she feels” Fast forward to every video of trisha going off about every situation that has pissed her off for the last ten years.
Lol Trishas life definitely moves fast and she always handle her shit like a boss just sucks that she’s emotionally vulnerable and people seem to take advantage of it she deserves to be happy
I think she reacts/handles is how most of us would. Like I could not possibly hold it together for 10 yrs being in such a huge spotlight how she has been.
@@xxXitakegabbiesXxx true honestly I couldn’t do any of the things she does she is very confident and comfortable with herself and I lack hugely in that department.. I tend to hide in my house lol
Exactly! And so is Trisha. She goes along to get along. Things will come out about her too. Already has. One of the videos that Shane told her not to post, she's in it acting inappropriately just as much if not more towards Trevor some 16 year old kid they hungout with. So she should be thanking him for that one!
@@naomi.7777 THANK YOU!!! Trisha is the fakest manipulator I have ever witnessed to exist lol they're all fake friends who gossip it's not just one person.
@@ohmybeany right, otherwise they wouldn't of liked each other to begin with. It's that rich, snooty attitude they all have. Bitch be humble, sit down!!
Ethan and Trish could be siblings I swear. They pick on each other but the minuet someone else says something bad about one of them the other gets super protective. I love it.
Ryland crying because of the death of a kitten he knew for a week (death which was his fault) but not crying about losing a friendship with someone he supposedly “loves” is very telling.
@@halatiny6537 yeah when Trisha and Moses started dating, Trisha made him give up all his cats because she was jealous of the attention they were getting. They rehomed one to Shane and Ryland who’s husky killed it a week later. It’s honestly the least talked about and one of the most disturbing wrinkles in the Trisha/H3 drama 😅
I hope Trisha can take a step back from the toxic people that have not stood up for her when she did for them. I hope she learns to love herself as much as she loved her friends so she can learn what is healthy and really experience true love which I think you guys as friends and Moses as a husband are doing. Thank you guys for being so open
they are both terrible people who don't see the consequences of their action and how it effect people and deserve each other honestly the only one I feel bad for is Morgan.
they’re afraid to leave jeffree because he’s their cash cow and because of that they’ve lowkey lost everyone including their biggest supporter. it’s their loss tho, obviously they care about money more anyway. says what kind of people they really are
@@classique_ I was about to say that she unfortunately also discovered the dangers of radioactivity the hardest way, bonus fact: The discovery of X-ray goes to Wilhelm Conrad Röntgen, the X stands for "Unkown" as he and most other people not being Marie Curie did not know what radiation really was :)
Honestly at first I wasn’t a big fan of Ethan but hes really shown how good of a friend he is (as well as hila) and how much he cares about Trisha. Being a fan of Trisha for probably 9 years now it’s so heart warming knowing she has friends like them finally
I'm really happy that she has the H3 crew not only as friends, but soon family as well. I hope her life will take a positive turn now that she has Ethan and ditched Shane
Me too. With the keem star beef and the beef he used to have with trisha, i see a different side to him now. He seems like a loyal and genuine friend. I like his humour and how caring he is coming across these days.
The way Ryland was looking at his co-host when telling this, it's like he is trying to convince her that he is right, that he is suffering with this, and convincing her of his lies. If Ryland really was trying to be honest, he would directly look into the camera and make an apology.
"The whole damned world is just as obsessed with who's the best dressed and who's having sex. Who's got the money, who gets the honeys, who's kinda cute, and who's just a mess. And you still don't have the right look, and you don't have the right friends. Nothing changes but the faces, the names, and the trends.... high school never ends." lol
When Ryland said Trisha may have a hard time expressing her feelings to them, I knew he was lying like bro have you ever seen Trisha ever?? She has no problem expressing her feelings lol
I got this energy even before. I fell Ryland is more money and fame hungry than Shane ,and is afraid to lose it all. Once they saw that money roll in, they chose it over their biggest supporter. 🤷♀️ I am so happy for Trisha to not only have found Mouses, but also a very supportive in-laws. I stan.
I think the worst part about this is that Trisha was literally the ONLY person that publicly advocated for Shane and stuck by his side literally no matter what for their entire friendship
Shane could on the podcast to talk about the cat he had for a week that passed away. .. But can't go on to apologize to his best friend of 12 years... And he's sitting there forsure...
I actually have grown to like Trisha a lot, at first I didn’t know anything about her other than earlier episodes on here and she made a bad impression to most people but overtime we learned that it’s actually a form of great marketing, she’s actually just a cool person if you look past what’s presented to people (by her and the podcast) on the surface. Bottom line is keep doing what you’re doing Trisha and the H3H3 crew, you’ve all come such a long way
Im just putting this out there and reminding everyone about the toxic crap she did.... she made fun of someone with DID and called them crazy... it happened just last year and it almost drew that person to suicide. Anthony Padilla even stood up for that person and she replied maliciously for no reason. So, no, she’s not a likeable person by any means. In THIS case, she was bullied by Jeffree but I personally don’t think she should get away with the things she did to other people in the name of “great marketing”. That shit was bullying and toxic af too. Hope people remember this.
@@DL-he1cu you’re totally right - however, if my memory serves me right that was when she first said she has DID herself, and the entire internet + anthony padilla and that other DID you tuber came for her saying she was self-diagnosing herself for attention. So in that sense, I can see why she lashed out at them. If i’m wrong though, i’m wrong. I’d also like to add fuck anthony padilla because he acts so self righteous especially towards trisha, when his girlfriend (glam and gore) is a proven bigot or borderline racist and he backed her even with mountains of evidence.
Y’all really need to watch D’angelo’s Shane video. It’s honestly frustrating hearing you talk about him in an “understanding” light. He’s a despicable human being.
I wouldn't be surprised if someone was putting it in her head that you were pushing her reactions or the hila hated her. Yanno, someone may have wanted to keep her alienated from good people. Kinda a common tactic. Just saying.
What? Now you're reaching. Trish was reading Moses texts from Hila where Hila was talking about Trish. I honestly don't think Hila's family like Trish they just tolerate her.
@@FA-dv5he that's possible but I can promise you that was an opportunity for someone to fan the flames cause I'm sure she shared this with more than just moses. Maybe they do just tolerate her, she's difficult, but it's still better than she's used to n I think she will grow n that relationship can become better as time goes on.
@@HexagonNightmare Hopefully, I do feel that a lot of people around her especially her family are Yes people. Most likely, they do that to avoid a breakdown.🤷♀️ I do wish her the best but for sure Moses, family will always talk bad about her behind her back.
Learning lessons doesn't seem like shane's strong suit. In his apology video he was like "I get cancelled like every 2 years and then things go back to normal" (not the exact quote but the gist of it). He's never really taken such a heavy hit before and always ends up forgiven anyways so of course he hasn't learned anything, otherwise he wouldn't be cancelled every 2 years like he said.
Dude. They are around the same age and Trisha is a grown ass woman. To say that you wish they would adopt her, is fucking weird. You don't need to legally adopt someone in order to protect them and treat them like family.
@@dr.avalanche4994 "Her husband would be her uncle".... that's not even an issue, seeing as Trisha is a grown woman and isn't going to be adopted, especially by people who are the same age as her. Even IF it happened, it's not like her and Moses would be blood related. But either way, the original comment by "blah zay" is just fucking stupid. Apparently you have to adopt someone in order to protect/be protective of them😂
