SHARK BYTE OVER ? - HDZERO IS THE FUTURE

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discussing Fat Shark Shark Byte and the future of HDzero digital FPV and Divimath.
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@JonE5FPV 2 года назад

Great coverage as always. Put a few more packs on the HDzero camera at the night spot this week. Coverage is still a little spotty, but the new foxeer v4 lollipop did seem to help a little. In the clear reception areas, the image looks easily as good as DJI 25mb mode. Very encouraging. If penetration can be improved, it will be very exciting.

@zuldanfpv4634 2 года назад

Would love to see a video comparing various styles of antennas on the system to see if coverage/penetration can be improved. Eg stubbies vs lollipops vs a normal antenna setup like VAS MadMushroom with a VAS Crosshair. I don’t think anyone has done this yet with HDZero.

@MadRC 2 года назад

I have been testing a few but nothing dramatic yet.

@divingfalconfpv4602 2 года назад

I really want to try it on a small drone. Save weight over dji on tiny drone and still have decent video

@terence79chan 2 года назад

Yep, the price point (per VTX) is also a big factor for hobbyists who are not keen to spend a lot, just to convert their micro indoor drones to HD.

@TheLostSquadron 2 года назад

Fat Shark is the Polaroid of FPV. They owned the market and just sat there and watched while everyone caught up and then blew their doors off.

@MrBlockyTV 2 года назад

Imagine beeing the only relevant premium fpv goggles manufacturer for years while never trying to push the hobby forward, then DJI comes and pushes the technology so far that you cant even come close to compete - and then miraculously a differnet company offers you to a way to still be relavent but instead of trying to go 100% into it and pushing it hard you just go naaaah thats way to much effort lets stick to making obsolete hardware that no one will want in 2 years

@madtoffelpremium8324 2 года назад

Seems like the shark lies dead in the water, but HDZero is more alive than ever! I am planning to switch next year.

@TimsDrones 2 года назад

Thx for clearing that up ... I saw an FPV airplane vid with this system - and the picture was almost perfect - it broke up only every 30s or so, and then just some mild sparkles - so much nicer than when it's flown in JB's very busy backyard, for instance. This system shines with LOS RF. Got me interested enough to watch this vid - and now I look fwd to HDZ in a house drone - a tinywhoop. And some airplanes. And now I'm gonna go see what's out there.

@anthonyfpvminiquad1728 2 года назад

The 1 watt will certainly interest you!

@spikester 2 года назад

Its a very big deal that the system is uni-directional like analog, one can presume it will function the same as analog with LOS for that reason, unlike DJI. Isn't the bandwidth utilized per channel identical to analog anyway?

@TomSmithFPV 2 года назад

Great Overview. Thanks for the update!

@zuldanfpv4634 2 года назад

Good to see you around Tom. Miss seeing your flying style! Hopefully another video is on the way with HDZero in use ;-)

@AerialWaviator 2 года назад

Great overview and recap of where things have been; are headed. Most striking was the image at 8:08 detailing pcb in 2018, 2019 .. so will be interesting to see what 2022 brings! Perhaps size, capabilities, and price will all align to offer a truly good ecosystem.

@robert_g_fbg 2 года назад

I have zero regrets of choosing the Skyzone 04X over the FatSharks, as my first FPV goggles. I’m sticking to analog, till my piloting skills improve. Already planning to adopt HD0 next year.

@cashmoneypwns 2 года назад

Fat sharks aren’t bad.just gotta have better diversity

@tribefpv 2 года назад

Whatever digital u get should improve your piloting skills 10 fold, because your able to see better . I switched to dji goggles and caddx vista vtx and it was amazing to say the least . My piloting skills improved so much just buy the beautiful clear picture, being able to see everything in fine detail is so good . You will luv it 👍

@robert_g_fbg 2 года назад

@@tribefpv great tip. I’m waiting for HD0 to get a bit more available from various vendors. Grew up watching cathode ray tubes, so I can deal with the nostalgic views 😆 📺 for now

@trainersaitta7214 2 года назад

If you get digital it's going to help your potting skills tremendous it doesn't matter if you're a newbie immediate pilot or expert I'm telling you total improvement don't have to worry about Ryan's nearly as much you get to see the Gap so much better you get to make out tree branches and small little straggle you don't have to deal with the snow I started off with analog and I weren't with analog until I got good and where I can afford the digital but man I wish I went straight for it cuz as soon as I went to it my power and skills doubled what I where I was at

@Spinal1515 2 года назад

@@trainersaitta7214 uhm if Mr steele became who he is today with analog, it means that digital is pretty much uncorrelated with skills...

@opnekryan 2 года назад

Thanks for the info, I just jumped on board and ordered the SHarkbyte/HDZero rx earlier today!

@baggszilla 2 года назад

Thanks my man! I Love seeing a video from Mad's Tech!

@bugsy742 2 года назад

Really appreciate this video brother 🤝

@dariuszrogowski2360 2 года назад

great video, many thanks for your job. Have a question: would like to switch to digital, what to buy or maybe wait for something new ? is it still dji V2 good to buy? many thanks

@MOEMUGGY 2 года назад

Yes, if you can afford them DJI V2 are the goggles to beat for the foreseeable future.

@tmdsparrow85 2 года назад

Many thanks for the explanation which provided great overview. I really can't understand fatshark's strategy! It is clear that the fpv is going to digital and analog will be obsolete in near future. They catched such a great chance to step in to HD and they throw it back. I hope skyzone will not do the same mistake and will get faster to the digital fpv world. Well done HD zero!!!

@gmivisualsjason3729 2 года назад

Excellent video thanks

@nhack5504 2 года назад

Thanks for putting this video out! Wow, things have changed in the 3-4 months I've been away from the hobby. Wasn't really happy with the SharkByte momentum and didn't really want to convert to something so proprietary as DJI. Maybe this is the way forward for the hobby???

@E.Blackadder 2 года назад

For those planning on getting Skyzone O4X's, wait until they start shipping with the new "Steadyview X" receiver modules comoing soon apparently......

@MadRC 2 года назад

This is great info. I’m looking at getting a set my self.

@theronin48 2 года назад

Fat Shark died a long, long time ago.

@typxxilps 2 года назад

I suggest to simply invite Carl for an interview cause I think he can bring more light into the whole FPV world as he does see it which might be a lot different than our view. I am talking about the maker and seller view, not the world as we receive and talk about it. I guess he has a very clear view what market segments exists, which he is aiming on and which he ignores, same for his tech and what it would need to beat (back others like dji) Might be a possibility cause I guess he would be willing to do so cause I have seen him talking for over an hours and I found it very interesting and somehow different , new aspects. Maybe we should call them Carl''s HD Zero cause that adds the personal touch and value dji never can get . Carl feels responsible, carefull and focussed on what he can and will deliver... Rememer the early days of gaming at home ? Who does not remember the simulator brand SID SID MEYER's Railroad Tycoon of 1990 ? So Carl should evolve the brand cause I guess people would trust Carl's HD Zero more than the HD Zero brand which is a letter salad where the carl's hd zero will be received as carl's cause we remember humans better.

@spikester 2 года назад

Agreed, long-term existence & support is everything to get new customers to accept a product.

@danielzawerton7023 2 года назад

Thank you very much for a very informative video, I have been a faithful Fatshark customer since 2016, but it is a little dissappointing as to how "off the radar" they seem to have become.......

@testboga5991 2 года назад

Thanks! I didn't understand the situation at all

@bossanova 2 года назад

i converted my cinelog30 to sharkbyte - it is amazing. What a difference - grabbed the chance by picking up the tx for 100 , rx for 50 - that is a cheap entry.

@PierreFromCanada Год назад

Great explanation. I am due for a goggle upgrade(still using my eachine ev100) . My drones(quads) are presently all analog, but its just a question of time before I venture in the digital world. I am really uncertain as to what goggles I should buy. I don't trust dji for any contined support of there V2s, i've rulled out the fatshark dominator HDs for their lack of hdmi input (for any future analog Vrx option)..and I seem to be leaning towards the Sky04x v2 because it has the wider field of view, OLED, good dvr capability, and I hope that the sky04x will eventualy be compatible with a popular and pervasive HD bolt-on VRX... I would be interested in getting your point of view... It would be nice if you did a "Goggle buyer's guide given current market conditions and evolving trends"..

@SushikiIIer 2 года назад

so those of us already with a SharkByte vRx will still have updates for the sharbyte system, just through Divimath?

@MadRC 2 года назад

Yea go directly to www.hd-zero.com/ and they have the updates for all the current hardware. The FS website is out of date.

@mipuist 2 года назад

@@MadRC bad link I guess (leads to some generic website)

@MadRC 2 года назад

@@mipuist sorry should have been www.hd-zero.com/

@MCsCreations 2 года назад

The only thing you forgot was the guy doing the Shark Byte updates resigning, because of the FatShark owner didn't want him to put out so many updates. He's is the issue inside FatShark. The guy hates changes! And it's a looong story... On/off button and so on. HDZero is much better alone. They should contact companies like TBS and Rush to make VTXs, but even if they don't I have much more confidence in this system.

@spikester 2 года назад

I think it will lead to a lot less lost models, DJI has some very bad recovery issues once it loses signal it can take ages, hdzero is pretty much instant the moment the signal chain recovers to an error rate low enough, not to mention you can still spot a horizon even during the worst receive bERR rates.

@kool-k-kel 2 года назад

Hi..ive just tried sb on my hdo2 goggles. The hdmi is knackered...intermittent connection. Contacted fatshark support. Had a reply. Fatshark have no uk support repair centre. They have offered to send a hdmi/rx board to me to fit...fatshark future uncertainty?

@MadRC 2 года назад

Yea this is becoming more and more common. If you were not wanting to change this your self I would love to make a video about doing it if you wanted use to do it for you. If you are interested email me at mad_rc@icloud.com.

@DavidOwensuk 2 года назад

I really hope Red Cat Holdings didn’t acquire Fat Shark to shut them down…

@alvindechecko541 2 года назад

mads tech i just bought this kit i use inav how can i put osd with inav? ive tried that msp enable thing in cli i get a red message saying nope so how can i see osd with i nav? is there a special build i need? how to install it? please help i just dropped almost 400 dollars and i dont want to go back to betaflight to use osd only reason im on inav i want rth function... i have a 5 inch drone help please

@rctom1 2 года назад

Maybe you put this quest over to Pawel Spychalski, he is an Inav Def .

@MadRC 2 года назад

I know Inav has limited support but I have not checked properly. 100% post it to Paweł but I will double check my self to. Often changing UART can help too.

@RyanQuellet 2 года назад

Inav doesn't work with canvas mode yet. We have a custom build of inav that adds this feature. It won't be included in main inav until inav 5.0. Check the HDZero discord server for help and a custom inav build

@LaDreadTeam 2 года назад

i have passed direct in sharkbyte system because don't like DJI ...and in lowlight condition is perfect with HDZERO camera or FOXEER Caméra. When arrive new VTX 1 watt with better penetration and evolution camera is best system for future. For range it is good job now ...

@slowridefpv9668 2 года назад

Question? I have shark byte, is it basically hd zero? Able to update with hd zero software updates?

@MadRC 2 года назад

Yep 100% the same. Literally it’s just a name change. You should get your updates from the HD Zero website.

@slowridefpv9668 2 года назад

Awesome, thank you! I’m in love with the system and hope it only grows from here!

@eatyourvegfpv 2 года назад

Praise be! 🙌 Now if you could just ask every other RU-vidr, JB especially, to stop calling it Shark Byte, that would be great... 🤪 Thanks for this video Ian 👍

@CDRaff 2 года назад

After watching the interview with Turner yesterday I assume JB will be calling it HDZero as often as he remembers.

@divingfalconfpv4602 2 года назад

Going to be hard for everyone to remember for awhile..

@TheFlash8889 2 года назад

Any suggestions? I wanted to build a 5inch quad in the near future and go with an HDZero vtx but the fatshark scout hd's are the only affordable optioion to me since I am completely new to this hobby and don't have any fpv goggles so far. Is there any alternative or would you guys go analog to beginn with and wait till the whole situation has stabilized?

@KelDG3 2 года назад

When I started I bought a 10€ usb video receiver and plugged it into an old oculus Go I bought for next to nothing (compared to the fpv Googles), hoping there is going to be a similar receiver for the hd cams.

@wrongbirthday2 2 года назад

i use sb | HDzero on my skyzone oled since ever

@SickocrowAU 2 года назад

I don't get RedCat Holdings game plan. They have Fartshark and Rotor Riot, and Rotor Riot slurps on DJI...hard. It's the only reason I can see Fartshark going quiet on HD Zero

@MadRC 2 года назад

It’s always been crazy that they never pushed it.

@CDRaff 2 года назад

This is just going to be even more confusing if Fatshark is making headsets, and literally no one on their partner channel is using them. If I am just coming into the hobby and I hear that Rotor Riot is owned by the same company that owns Fatshark and no one on the show uses Fatshark as a daily driver there is literally no way I am going to buy Fatshark. Maybe if I am into racing and I see the racers with Fatshark goggles on, but will they still wear Fatshark goggles if HDZero makes their own decent set, or if they partner with someone else to make a decent set?

@CDRaff 2 года назад

Redcat is making or allowing Fatshark to make some really dumb business decisions that I feel are going to hurt all Redcat holdings as a whole.

@spikester 2 года назад

Happy that the HDZERO guy is finally getting the acknowledgement of a good product that he deserves, no thanks to Fat Shark. Now all someone has to do is make an HDZERO board that can directly drive DJI goggle LCD screens. *giggle*

@OneOfTheRobs 2 года назад

😀

@nyclassic4ever130 2 года назад

I just need some goggles...all sold out everywhere 🤦🏽‍♂️

@derrogers 2 года назад

I was planning to switch to digital fpv. guess I will wait a few month and see what happens...

@MadRC 2 года назад

No reason to wait if your looking at HDZero. It’s here to stay and pushing forward.

@derrogers 2 года назад

@@MadRC not so sure about that...

@eatyourvegfpv 2 года назад

@@derrogers What makes you say that?

@derrogers 2 года назад

@@eatyourvegfpv im just not sure hdzero can deliver. Its winter were I live, I have time till summer to decide and I want to see what they deliver in the new year before spending a lot of money on a system that doesn't last.

@eatyourvegfpv 2 года назад

@@derrogers What so far has made you think they can't deliver? Look at how much the system has evolved in a relatively short amount of time, the way the community is listened to and interacted with, and what we know is on the horizon. Anyone who is involved with the system will tell you that your concerns are definitely not their experience.

@maceliusfpv370 2 года назад

Happymodel enters the chat..

@Alohakoa59 2 года назад

Smart of Fatshark since HDzero makes no goggles

@MrBumbles2 2 года назад

redcat has fatshark they will vanish or just stay the same

@jbengineering2681 2 года назад

It's sad that these micro hd zero cameras are out of stock and everything else is to

@spikester 2 года назад

All it took is 1 good camera, 1 good 1W vtx & some guy with a plank, not even quadcopter fame could save one of the RC hobby's most unprecedented product to date. Long range flyers that will be buying this in droves will have way more endurance equipment & utilize higher gain antennas than most quad pilots ever can or even will. Many have been waiting for a system like this for decades to replace analog, DJI wasn't ever it due to its 13km (and previously shorter) limitations & latency/recovery issues.