Shein's situation is more dire than you think... here's why 

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Same

I only used shein for fishnets and temu for gothic jewelry, cuz I couldn't find those things anywhere in my area to buy. And also make-up brushes cuz in my country just one brush can be more expensive than the whole set from temu/shein. That said, I only shop at thrift stores and completely ignore the existence of all those fast fashion basic af shops.

honestly i'm thinking more and more like this, would love to know how long it takes you on average to make a garment?

@@katierobinson Oh I am not the person you should use as a measure for this 😅 I'm still in the super learning stages so I move very slowly, and also take breaks that last several days during projects. It takes me about a week or more to complete one semi-simple piece. I assume this will get faster once I get better at saving my patterns, but since now everything I do I do from complete scratch, it's a bit of a process

@@katierobinsonI've recently started sewing and once you have your pattern, depending on the garment it can take anywhere from 30 min (think basic tee) to 3 hrs (evening dresses, sometimes pants) :))

@@katierobinson I have sewn for about 15 years and knitted for 3 years. Most garnments you can sew from within an hour to a weekend project for more complicated things. This time will include getting your pattern ready (potentially altering it), making a test-run yes/no, cutting out your fabric, and actually sewing it. For knitting, think more about an accessory in 1-2 weeks (knitting in the evenings while watching tv), or 2-3 months when making a sweater/cardigan. Great side-effect of making your own clothes is that you get a lot more aware of what sort of things you actually want out of your garnments, and as a result tend to buy less (because stores don’t exactly offer what you want and you’re less likely to settle for less)

i understand you completely

Not even most fabrics nowadays are high quality

@@mushmush4980 nope gotta read the labels and make the best choices or fabrics but id rather do that and it fit well and look how i want than pay a company for something worse who don't pay their people jack.

looool this is a common problem on my channel!! i just see it as them paying me to talk bad haha

I also got the Shein add before this video, best ambassador ever Katie😂😂. Keep up the fine work, take care.

ugh same although it’s gone down recently at least in my part of london!! maybe thrift stores are starting to reject it 🤞

It's not even moving at the thrift store. That's going to be a lot of clothing in the landfill.

So much SheIn and Forever21 here in the US

or on vinted! so tired of searching for a white T and it’s all shein…

I have only seen SHEIN with tags on in the thrift store, but even then I am just not interested. I buy some of the high street brands second hand at times, but after trying to rescue a fashion nova jumpsuit (with tags) I have declared all those cheap online fast fashion brands are not worth my money even second hand.

haha thank you😅🫶

Modern Upton Sinclair

definitely, it takes a threat to profit for brands to start welcoming change if only to penalise their biggest rival! i definitely worry about the effects of nearshoring on the communities in the global south, brands/ governments need to ensure there's support there still! thank you sm for watching 🫶

Exactly. In my country, sustainable fashion comes at an elite price tag and thrifting has yet to take off here. I’m a curvy girl and finding clothes is already challenging. SHEIN clothing fits me really well and I’ve managed to keep them for years. I try to limit buying for the sake of buying and keep the items - I don’t care what’s fashionable, I shop for what suits me and my body. This is how I find a sort of middle ground where I get what I need without unnecessarily adding too much to the waste, etc etc.

You are not the problem. People that have enough money to buy from more substainable shops but still buy from Shein are the problem!

@@saperlipopetteee6986 I know, but when some people find out the “awesome socks” peeking over your worn out running shoes are from SHEIN you either get people excited and asking what the deal was (bc again, we’re mostly broke) or going off on you for getting a pack of 12 pairs of socks for $4. There’s a level of elitism and people like to go off on you for supporting companies with even the tiniest negative behavior or past even if there is literally no way to avoid buying like… water bottles when your apartment loses water for a week or coffee of ANY kind or really anything that brings even a tiny bit of joy without dropping so much money it loops back around to unethical.

big problem with Shein is it's hard to find cotton there. I would never buy underwear or bed sheets made of synth fibers. YUCK!!

@@JishinimaTidehoshi I wouldn’t either, I really like the sheets that are like flannel or whatever but when you’re so broke that a $15 set of sheets is all you can spin… well, you can’t be picky. You can get 5 pairs of (cheap, super thin) socks for like a dollar usually. That’s what I can afford.

oooh i hadn't thought about this but wonder if you're right and they'll tailor their offerings geographically? it would make sense otherwise no one will be shopping there 🥴

@@katierobinson Hmm yeah if they start making clothes out of cotton that’s still a step in the right direction? Or at least a bit less environmental impact

That sounds so nice. I’ve been paying more attention to fabrics lately and there’s so little clothing made with actual decent fabrics at affordable prices.

so glad you found my channel!! can definitely see this happening in the near future, their competitors are already struggling and investors aren't happy with how they're doing compared to temu / shein!

I saw someone comment somewhere…. Poor people are so inventive washing their clothes. Obviously ironic lol. Sure made me giggle😂

So the Amazon method?

that whole model /goal has been a thing for at least 2 decades now. see how every factory in the west shut down and now we have literally NO alternatives

lmaooo

this is such lovely feedback, thank you! 🫶 glad you’re here!

aw thank u, glad you enjoyed!!! 🫶

aw i’m so glad! thanks for watching 🫶

oooh i didn't know about the packages piling up in warehouses, i'll look into this 👀 definitely agree they'll be raising their prices once they've killed off the market!!

@@katierobinson You can also check out the mountain of clothes is Chile. While it doesn't contain only products of fast fashion, it's a terrifying sight.

@@TheChampagnebubble i've seen these... so horrifying to see firsthand the impact of fast fashion on the planet!!

Im not sure about Shein but with some items, Temu will just give you your money back and tell you to keep it. Even they dont want to take back their own products

@@karpathian_slaw7928 True, they started that because the items value is so low, it's not even worth it to pretend they'll take it back. And it also frees them from the responsability to dispose of it.

thank you for watching!! haha i haven’t really thought about it, maybe sometime in the future if enough people want to see 😅

thanks for watching! 🫶

thank u for watching 🫶

glad you enjoyed the video!!🫶

Shein marketing their supply chain model is ... terrifying. I really hope some of the legislation changes come through first. Knowing all of this makes it so frustrating to see people justify shopping there over and over again. IMO every single person makes a difference when it comes to shein.

@@littlereddragon ik… literally mass garment worker exploitation 😭😭

thank u 😭 & thanks for watching!🫶

isnt it plain xenophobia to single out shein as if fashion nova ,sportswear , athleasure or even "elite" european designer fashion heavily rely on mass production with cheap materials underpaying their south asian labour for their artistry? (this is so aggressive i apologise this isnt against you personally but the general sentiment of hating on shein while actively elevating western brands that do the exact same)

😭😭 where are you based? i’m sure shein are planning more in europe after doing a few here last year

It really is. In my city we had one of the first Shein pop-up stores during Oktoberfest in 2022. It was open three weeks I believe. After that I visited a rather small local thrift store and there were clothing racks full of the same un-worn Shein- pieces. At least Shein donated the clothes, but it still shows how poorly they could calculate their sales and the overproduction

@@katierobinson Vancouver canada

hahaha thank you 😅 i might do one in the future!!

we've all done this, social media can be so judgemental and we all just want to fit in, i've bought so much fast fashion in my life too!! it's good that you're no longer buying 🫶

lol i get told this all the time but LOVE that they're paying me to talk sh*t on this and other videos!!

aw thanks!! it's she - in ('she inside' was the original name) but i find when i'm talking fast the name kinda slurs in my mouth 😅

@@katierobinson she inside is a crazy name for a brand 😭😭 i wonder how they came up with that

clearly they don't understand what my content is about 😭

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they're autogenerated so I'm not sure how to change them!! sorry 🥺

honestly i always cringe too, watching ppl pull out all these parcels

probably that too!

😭 same

Regarding the Question of "are the working conditions at shein maybe preferable" ... Theyre Not. Theyre simply Not. Theres plenty of Reports about the working conditions, and theyre known to routinely violate labour laws in country that already (by Western Standards) have shitty labour laws. Theyre know to demand 18 hour days, Theres cases of workers only having 1 day Off a month. Theres Reports of shein Factories keeping 2/3 of a workers wages If theyre Not fast enough. This is the Kind of Shit thats caused workers death. Situations Like shein caused the factory fires in Bangladesch in 2012. Or in the US in the early 20th century. And assuming the Work is voluntary is, in my opinion, a pretty naive Statement. The people working in such conditions dont really have a choice. It's either that or starvation. Most of them leave their Kids and families in Order to Work in a hellhole, to survive. Ive Seen the Argument Made that it's still better to keep those Jobs because they "Help", but in reality, it's those Kind of Jobs that keep people down. Those Kinds of Factories destroy the skilled Economy in their Home countries (because the more expensive clothing manufacturers cant completely), they Drive wages down, and they keep people Stuck in poverty. None of that is hard to Research, so as a sceptic, i assume you have come across the Reports and you are playing Devils advocate with those questions. You can make Up your own mind If those Arguments are good enough to boycott fast Fashion or Not. To me, those working conditions are too horrible to Support. You want to "support" workers from those areas? Find small Labels that have their own Factories. They exist and theyre still fairly cheap by european Standards (at least). But personally, im Not giving a single dime to a company with working conditions that have been illegal in my own country for more than a century. And, as i May repeat, that are illegal in China, Bangladesch and other places. Shein Just doesnt Care.

lmao would need a whole part 2 to get to all the issues 😭

same 😭

me too

do you have sources for this pls?? would love to research further as i havent seen this talked about 👀

Respectfully, there are countless videos and documentaries that speak about that. What else is there to say about inhumane working standards?

@@yerb1969 I expected, at the very least, for it to be touched upon. It's frustrating and sad to me that people seem to be more moved by fabric waste and concerns about the environment in the long-run than the workers who are most immediately effected by fast fashion.

hey!! probably should have mentioned this more but I think i did touch on it with the NYC IPO allegation saying they obviously couldn't provide what lawmakers want, i also talk about this more extensively in other videos!!

@@katierobinson Thanks, RU-vid wasn't suggesting the other videos to me, and they weren't linked in the description, so I couldn't easily find them. I had to manually search your channel to find more videos on the topic. Darned algorithm. :(

@@MorganJ :((( it’s a nice idea to link them in the description, i may start doing this!!! glad you found them eventually haha 🫶

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i definitely do agree, and mostly when I talk about Shein and their shoppers I'm thinking about their 'average' shopper - the one that spends $100 a month on clothes that average $5-7, so buying lots and lots of clothes. People do need access to clothing, but no one needs to be buying clothes on this scale. Like you said ppl doing giat hauls and throwing away clothing - that's who I'm thinking about when I think of Shein shoppers! I'm also in such a privileged place and can afford to buy more expensive, but I also limit myself to 5 new items a year, shop secondhand, do no-buy months etc to cut down on my consumption!🫶

Reminder that brands like this cause so much misery for the real people who have to work there.

What about vinted ? It's even cheaper!

BS, most people own more clothes than they need. You can buy less and not have to get poorly made fast fashion. People who claim they buy shein because of poverty are lying.

loooool they literally pay my salary at this point 😅