When I was on mission we were taught that we partake of the Sacrament for 2Reasons.. 1,to remember Jesus Christ 2,to renew covenants Those who haven't made covenants yet like kids and Investigators who are willing to remember Jesus Christ should not be discouraged from partaking of His Flesh and Blood.The 2nd reason will come as the covenants are made.
hey Kwaku! Catholic here - Transubstantiation is actually the belief that when the priest says the words of consecration "This is my body, this is the chalice of my blood" that the substance of the bread and wine, or what it is in nature is changed into the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Our Lord Jesus Christ, but the accidents or physical appearance remain the same. There have also been many incredible Eucharistic miracles to help confirm the scriptural belief in the real presence. (John 6:22-71) I hope this helps clarify!
When my son was 4 he called it the snackrament. I think taking it multiple times a day is like getting extra vitamins. Can't overdose on the atonement.
Lesson 38 in the Primary 2 manual. Your 5 year old is being taught why and how to take the sacrament - probably this month, I just taught that lesson last Sunday.
I think that if you’re visiting another ward you still should sustain people in their callings because you’re showing that you have faith that they were chosen for that calling through prayer and revelation. Even in your own ward, you may not personally know the person being sustained, but you’re still supporting them because you believe they’ve been called of God. At the end of the day it shouldn’t really matter if you like the person or would have chosen them yourself, what matters is that you have faith in the calling process and support them because of that
My mom is a nurse and years ago had to work on the night shift on Saturday night. When we had the morning time slot for church she just had enough time to get off work and drive straight to church. She almost always missed the bread entirely and usually missed the prayer for the water. After 6 months of not partaking of the sacrament, even though she was definitely worthy, it was at that point she decided that some non doctrinal/cultural tradition shouldn’t stop her from taking the sacrament. One of my core memories from childhood is the look on my mom’s face and she took the water for the first time in months. Take the sacrament as often as you can, however you can, and whenever you can. Don’t let some arbitrary “be there before the opening prayer” rule, stop you from getting the blessings of the sacrament.
When I was a child growing up in the 60s we were always taught to take the sacrament with the right hand. I don't know when it stopped being taught, but perhaps when junior Sunday school got nixed and Primary was moved from a weekday to Sunday, there was less time to cover it. Anyway, it's now in the handbook, yes, if possible, we take it with our right hand. It was a tough lesson to learn for this lefty, but my parents regularly reminded me if I forgot.
I taught my kids if you were not going to try to keep the commandment next week you shouldn't take it, BUT IF you are going to try to not drink or smoke or do drugs, then take it and when the temptation comes up you will have the blessing of the spirit to be with you to be stronger than if you didn't take the sacrament. we should look at the sacrament as the savior personally saying when I witness you are willing to take upon you my name as a Christian and promise to keep my commandments, I will allow you to have my spirit to be with you by forgiving you as if you were rebaptized... how many of us would even think of missing it?
Years ago, before we went to the three hour meetings on Sunday, during Sunday School, there was a meeting called, Jiunor Sunday School for the Primary age kids, where the Sacrament was passed to them.
The Roman Catholics believe that Transubstantiation (the conversion of ‘substance’ of the bread and wine into the actual body and blood of Christ) occurs at the moment of consecration by the Priest. (Not in the body of the person).
Oh, and as an interesting aside, the act of Transubstantiation in the Catholic Mass (called the Consecration) is accompanied by the phrase “…this is my body…” The traditional Latin version of this is “hoc est corpus meum.” It has been suggested that a corruption of this phrase is the origin of the phrase ‘hocus pocus.’ (The idea being that people were making fun of the Catholic belief in the ‘magical’ act of Transubstantiation.)
@@Hypexotic I have to disagree. It is a perfectly logical conclusion. The phrase “hoc est corpus meum” means “this is my body” in Latin. The phrase “hocus pocus,” on the other hand, has no meaning in Latin (or any other language for that matter), and is obviously NOT used as part of the Roman Catholic Mass. If it is indeed the case that the later phrase derived from the former, then clearly the latter is a corruption of the former. Recall that the one of the definitions of ‘corruption’ is “The process by which something, typically a word or expression, is changed from its original use or meaning to one that is regarded as erroneous or debased.” Such is case here.
The sacrament is like the main purpose of going to church. It is the meeting you should attend every week. The sacrament is honestly like a mini baptism each week. And I can testify that the Holy Ghost's presence is much stronger during the week by taking the sacrament each week. Plus your week is just easier when you take the sacrament worthily each week. Reverence to and in Remembrance of the Savior and what he did for us. And I like to think of it as taking any sins committed through out the week, both known sins and unknown sins, out of my backpack. Lightening the load. I testify of how much easier each week goes, by worthily partaking the emblem's each Sabbath day.
2:00 My Stake President answered that question in a Stake Conference talk. If someone didn't hear the prayer they shouldn't take the Sacrament. You should do the whole thing.
I had to bless the sacrament in a small branch in Devon in the UK. The person who brought the bread, must have taken it from her bread maker short moments before. She lived close to the community hall they met in. It was still burning my fingers as I broke the bread. 60 plus years in the church gives more story than can be told. Take care my friends...............
About sustaining people in other wards, we need to keep in mind the purpose and the meaning behind the sustaining vote. To sustain someone means that you are willing or agreeing to help them fulfill that calling should you be asked in the future, and that you find no fault in them serving in the capacity. Therefore, if it is not your ward then the likelihood of you being there in the future or being available to help them in that calling, is not reasonable. However, even if it is your ward, just because you don't know the person doesn't mean that you also don't approve of them having that calling, or aren't willing to help in times of need. Therefore, sustaining them even when you don't know them is okay as long as you are willing to help them if asked. We also have to keep in mind that the point in bringing the sustaining vote before the whole congregation is so that the members can then be aware of the potential calling, and can have the opportunity to discuss issues they see with it or conflicts with the leaders before the calling is made official. Thus it is a dissenting votes that are more important or need to be paid more attention to than the sustaining votes.
I like what Kwaku said about kids taking the sacrament to set the part even if they don’t know what it’s for yet. I didn’t 100% know what baptism was and why it’s necessary for salvation when I was 8 and got baptized, but now that I’m older, I understand almost everything about baptism. I think it’s important to show kids things little by little until it all connects in their brains
We're not allowed into the chapel after the first song. There was a time where the stake got fed up with latecomers, so the sacrament was not taken into the hallways. That practice has since stopped. They now strongly encourage members not to visit in the hallways, and to leave only if there is a "kidney" problem.
What about investigators taking it? I've been going for a couple months and understand the significance, even though I haven't had a baptism with covenants to renew.
I personally did not take sacrament while I was an investigator. I waited until I was baptized. For me it was a personal decision. I felt that I needed to wait until I made my baptismal covenants.
It's meant for members with baptismal covenants, but there's nothing wrong with non-members taking it. We don't want to make visitors uncomfortable by slapping their wrist when they go for it haha. More here: www.lds.org/new-era/2012/03/to-the-point/can-nonmembers-take-the-sacrament?lang=eng
At 1:08. Re. type of bread. We had three people in our ward who were allergic to the yeast or wheat in the bread we used. They may have been gluten free. So we had to go to a health food store and get the special bread they needed. We had a very accommodating bishop at the time, so it was no problem.
3 Nephi 20:7-8 seems to apply that the bread and wine are symbols, but you are spiritually partaking of the body and blood of christ, so its a symbol of something spiritually happening.
I think if you miss the prayer but still want to take the sacrament and still have the full spirit of it you could read the prayer from your scriptures to yourself.
Hmm.... I don't know that I completely agree with that. The way I understand it, ordinances have to be administered by the authority of the Priesthood, and by someone _else_ with the Priesthood, meaning that even though I hold the Priesthood, I can't lay my hands on my head and bless myself, or I can't baptize myself, you know? So in that same sense I don't know that I could bless the sacrament just for myself... idk. At the end of the day I think it falls into the category of "doesn't really matter too much." But either way, it's an act of good faith, which I imagine is always a good thing.
David Snell fair point, but I meant if it was already blessed but you didn't hear the prayer you could read them to bring yourself into that spiritual mindset and remind yourself of the whole thing.
@@marithepotato1776 thanks for the clarification. As per the episode, _not_ participating in the sacrament because of missing the blessing of it is a new idea to me. It hadn't crossed my mind before. After mulling it over for a while I have two thoughts: 1- the Church hasn't officially addressed the issue, there is not policy on it, which tells me that it's not a huge deal either way, and that our best judgment is sufficient. 2- My personal thoughts are that the sacrament is an ordinance, like baptism and others. If I were late to my own baptism, could I jump in the water after missing the prayer and still be baptized? I don't think so. In that same sense, is the ordinance of the sacrament complete if I miss the blessing? Probably not, even if I read the words of the prayer to myself. Reminding yourself of the prayers and their meaning is a great thing to do, but I don't think it makes up for not being present during that important part of the ordinance. So you could totally do as you suggest, I think that's a great idea, but maybe not with the expectation that by doing it you're "catching up" on the part of the ordinance you missed. Hopefully that makes sense. Sorry I mean to hijack your comment and give you a novel-long lecture haha. Just kind of typing out loud as thoughts come to mind. Thanks for your comment.
Hey guys, in my experience when I come to sacrament meeting late in (my ward) we wait until the meeting is over and I have the bread and water blessed and partake of the renewal of my baptismal covenant.
At 0:53. I remember one Sunday where the assigned family was supposed to bring the sacrament bread. Something happened horrible wrong. When the time came to pull back the tablecloth covering the bread for the blessing, there was no bread. It was still in the car. The deacon had to run out and fetch the bread.
I was always adamant that you didn't need to take the sacrament with your right hand. I talked about how it doesn't say it anywhere and it's not a real thing. Then they updated the member handbook. Section 18.9.4 "#7. Members partake with their right hand when possible." I think that particular formality is interesting because in the same section it says you don't have to do ritualistic stuff like holding your left hand behind your back while passing the sacrament.
I do not understand how the Mormon church can call this method a sacrament. A sacrament is an outward sign, instituted by Christ to give grace. Unless the bread is consecrated by an anointed priest and changed into the body and blood of Christ, as Jesus taught, it cannot be a true sacrament. "Those who eat my body and drink my blood, abide in me and I in him." Jesus did NOT say, "This is a symbol of my body and blood" when he took the bread and wine. He said, This IS my body; this IS my blood." So unless you are partaking as Jesus taught, you are NOT obeying God's commandment. The whole Catholic mass is all about receiving Jesus. We obey his commandment and receive his grace. It does not matter where we are in the world. All Catholic masses throughout the world are one body and are doing the same thing, reading the same scripture on the same day, throughout the world, just as Jesus taught and just as God wanted - all to be one church!
At 3:28. When I was in a branch, there was a woman who wanted to take the leftover bread to feed the pigeons. She thought the blessed bread was extra special and would be good for the birds. That was stopped. We no long have many leftovers anyways.
Back in 1995 while at the North stake of Zion North Las Vegas Nevada I was asked to bring the bread for sacrament. I did although it wasn’t white nor wheat but a sourdough rye bread. I was one of three after saying this Sacramental prayer Took a look at the members and there were some interesting looks from those who took of the bread. Our Bishop at the time was Greg Peterson a very noble and great young Bishop state to me brother Hiler it is always better to use white bread or wheat bread day and it keeps things more on the perspective and not because of the flavor. This is one of those instances where I live and I learn.
When I was 7 in Primary they taught about the Sacrament. I decided at that point to stop taken the sacrament until I was baptized. During my full time mission RM’s yelled at us for allowing investigators taken the sacrament. They used taken it unworthily. I take that scripture if a Bishop told someone not to take it.
Don't worry, I can't feel my hands well enough to pick up the cup out of the tray, so someone needs to pass it to me - no one cares as far as I can tell! :)
@9:34 You are supposed to do covenants with the right hand. That is doctrine. Also, it is doctrinal to teach even little children about the sacrament. “Suffer the little children to come unto me and forbid them not.”
If you attend 2 wards on sunday i dont think its necessary to partake of sacrament for both but i also dont think its bad to do so. The scriptures say to partake often so its not a sin to take it twice. As for the items used. The items dont matter, what matters is why u are taking the sacrament. If you cant get bread and the water isnt safe u can use pretzels and soda. Its not whats used its about why you are taking it
A few points, for question 1 I think something you forgot to go over was if someone was there for the blessing but unable to hear the prayer, my option on this would be that it is the bishop/branch presidents responsibility to ask for the blessing to be done again if needed and if you didn't hear it (maybe because you were at the back and there is no mike) you can trust his judgement. Also for question 5 you said "we encourage investigators to take the sacrament", I didn't know that was a thing and seems a little strange to me.
Just to help clarify two points. Before meetings were consolidated the Sacrament was passed to Junior Sunday School/primary age children. So even though some had not made covenants via baptism they were still being taught the importance of taking the sacrament. With regards to sustaining people in other wards.... there are times, in opening exercise of priesthood meeting when Quorum business might be conducted like the sustaining of a Class Instructor or Quorum sec., those invited to sustain the individual are those from the quorum, not the whole body of Priesthood. It would when seem that the same principle would apply to a Ward. It is the Ward members that are being asked to sustain, as it is Ward business, and if you're not a member of the ward the question arises how are you planning on sustaining that person in their calling. Maybe it might be worth doing a video on what it means to sustain someone when you raise your right arm.
PLEASE DO A VIDEO ON PIERCINGS!!!! I've just always wondered why the church has such an ultra-specific stance on piercings. What I mean by this is that we are advised by the Prophet not to intentionally mark our body in any way unless it is for medical reasons. If this is correct why has the prophet said it is ok for women to have their earlobes pierced but no other parts of their body? It just seems contradictory to be told not to mark your body but at the same time be told its okay for women to pierce their ears. Also, why can't guys pierce their ears, I really don't understand why there is so much instruction on piercings but not a lot of explanation behind why the church discourages piercing. (btw I'm LDS).
Thank you for this video. I'm a member and I've never thought about a lot of those things. I also think you should take the sacrament with your right hand however I don't think it's a sin if you happen to take it with your left. I love the insight on teaching young kids about the sacrament and if they should take it or not. I think we all should think about that as we prepare to have our own kids someday :D Convert life is hard ;) haha
The Bible says, if you Think something is wrong, but do it anyway, then you are guilty of it, even though it is not wrong in God's eye. You can't be on the fence about it. If you think it Might be wrong, then doing it makes you guilty.
Hey guys, just a heads up on how your new channel icon on android. It's kind of unreadable. It looks like a smudge on a white dot. Not a big deal but I thought you might want to know.
As an investigator, am I allowed to partake of the sacrament? I feel that if I understand the purpose behind it and respect the ordinance and intend to be baptized it is okay. But what is the actual stance?
I just want to comment on the sustaining of people in other wards, I know that at stake conference we sustain people we done even know, and I feel that as a unified church we recognize the appointment of a brother or sister a calling ordained by Heavenly Father, therefore even if we aren't from that ward when we sustain them we are showing we recognize that Christ leads this church through the Spirit in all things including calling and appointing those called, to me it would be like sitting through General Conference and not sustaining anyone except the prophet because I never met them. But I've only been a member a few years I could be wrong, I just know when I first joined I heard so many people talk about the importance of sustaining those who are called, even so much that my Bishop said it is important that you sustain yourself, I forget how he explained that but the importance was pressed upon, so if I'm present I always cast my sustaining vote.
Heavenly Father is going to understand if you don't use your right hand to take the sacrament. There are people with disabilities who can't do things with their right hand. Someone may also be missing a right hand due to a disability or amputation. I've been in the temple performing proxy ordinances and there were people there in these situations. They used their other hand/arm for the symbols.
Question: After every sacrament, We throw away the bread. I would question why throw it away that is a waste of food, but My brother tells me that since the bread is "considered to be blessed" we shouldn't eat it because it's "blessed". Would it be bad to eat the bread after the ordinance??
Well, to me, the bread that was placed in the trays was blessed, but if you are meaning what was left over in the bag of bread not used? That part was not blessed in my opinion, so I would think if you want it, it's yours. ;) I also would be interested in what the opinion of the Saint's Unscripted hosts are on that.
@@KevlarX2 I understand the bread left over as "still in the bag" but I was talking about the blessed bread. The quotation marks were a little dumb to use describing the word 'Blessed'
@@rep3785 Well the blessed bread left over should not be eaten. The proper thing to do is to throw away what was left over. Besides, after an hour long Sacrament meeting, it would be on the stale side anyway sitting under those cloths I would think. ;)
I'd lean on the side of throwing it away, but if you're in an actual starvation/not starvation situation, by all means, eat up. A similar situation actually happened in the Bible. This is from one of the teaching manuals of the Church: "Jesus defended the disciples by citing a precedent applicable to the case, and of much greater import. The instance was that of David, who with a small company of men had asked bread of the priest Ahimelech; for they were hungry and in haste. The priest had none but consecrated bread, the loaves of shewbread which were placed in the sanctuary at intervals, and which none but the priests were allowed to eat. In view of the condition of urgent need the priest had given the shewbread to the hungry men." It essentially outlines the importance of charity over ritual. So if hunger is an actual concern, eat it. If it's not, I'd throw it away.
Hannah Mueller We sustain someone during sacrament when they have received and accepted a calling. We are showing support for them and acknowledging that they were called through inspiration from God. A calling is an assignment, usually for an indefinite amount of time, to serve in the church. Anything from organist to a Sunday school teacher to Ward Clerk etc. Hope that helps!
Can you define "sustain" in this scenario? Its not an activity I've ever heard of before.. Are you just praying as a group for the holy spirit to guide them? Or is it a vote of approval for their plan? Or something else?
@@hannahm4581 basically the bishop or another local leader will get up to the pulpit and say some form of the following: "It is proposed that John Doe and Jane Doe be sustained as [Primary teachers/nursery leaders/insert calling here]. All those who wish to show support for them in their new callings, please do so by raising your right hand." It's more of a logistics thing than a 'sacred ordinance,' though it does originate from scripture (see link). Sustaining is part of what we call "common consent" in the Church. More on what that is here: www.lds.org/scriptures/gs/common-consent?lang=eng
One of my bishops wouldn’t let the bread/water go out into the hall for the people with the kids who out of respect for the song and sacrament would take crying kids out then when the bishop introduced this they kept kids in to avoid missing out, dumb AF
You might want to check your captions at 6:12... The word "should" is what you meant... But that is definitely not the word that is appearing in the captions! I did get a little giggle out of it though! (Call me childish!)
Very interesting topic! What are your rules for accepting the sacrament if your not a member? You mentioned times when its inappropriate to receive the sacrament. I dont know the right terminology, but are you referring to being in a state of grace? Free from the really bad sins? Is it viewed as a reminder of the last supper and the blessing similar in meaning to a meal? What does it represent. Transubstantiation, the turning of the bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ happens during the Catholic mass when the Priest concentrates it. Obviously, to the eyes and every other sense it still appears to be a flat wafers and wine even though we believe it isnt. I'm Catholic. I accept it, but no, I don't completely understand it. Also, once consecrated it stays that way. They are stored in a locked container called an ambury or tabernacle. It's nice because it means that eucharistic ministers have some available to bring to the sick in hospitals and nursing homes. There is even a ritual for propper proper disposal for the sacrament if it falls on the floor. I also don't understand why it has to contain wheat, but it does. There is a very low gluten content Eucharist available, but gluten free is not an option. Unfortunately that is problematic for my celiac kid. Also, little kids can't take communion until they have undergone preparation classes. Nothing really deep, what an 8 year old can grasp. What is your stance on a person who is no longer capable of understanding the sacrament recieving it? I ask because recently spoke with an Episcopalian priest about this as my Father in law no longer comprehends the service. Kwaku, whe. my daughter was 2 she was very vocal one day at church and was asking loudly about why she didn't get snack during communion. Then, during a quiet moment during the mass she pointed to the crucifix and yelled a question. "Did they stick him up there good?" There is no way to answer this. Husband and I discussed moving, being atheist, babysitters, and gagging our child. The Priest said that he thought she was funny and was glad she was paying attention and engaged in what was going on around her. Basically, I think that keeping the little ones happy, involved and quiet leads to better attendance at services.
Members can participate in the sacrament, though the sacrament is technically meant for members who have baptismal covenants to renew. But nobody is going to bat an eyelash if a non-member participates. Happens every week around the world. More here: www.lds.org/new-era/2012/03/to-the-point/can-nonmembers-take-the-sacrament?lang=eng Good question at the end there. I don't know of any particular Church policy about that, but I'd imagine it'd still be fine for them to participate. I'd encourage it, because whether or not they have the capacity to totally understand what's happening, they still have baptismal covenants to renew. At the same time, I don't think they'll be judged harshly for not taking it (I assume we're talking about people with Alzheimers or severe disabilities? I guess the situation might be different in different scenarios).
@@davidsnell2605 - Ooh! Awesome resource. Thank you. But... as usual... I have questions. If its not the body and blood of Christ, what is its significance? Can you explain more about your baptism vows? Any worries about original sin? I'm between a rock and a hard place in regards to taking the sacrament these days. As a Catholic, I am not supposed to take communion in the Episcopal church because our beliefs differ. My father-in-law has Alzheimer's disease and is at the point where he needs me to assist him. He can copy me. He won't copy other people. He knows I'm his primary caregiver. The priest tried coaching him through it, but it was a no go. So... I do what needs to be done. I made sure that the priest understood I'm a Catholic because I wasn't sure what the rules were. Interestingly, he was fine with it. Chances are, FIL is going to be meeting God before I will. His spiritual need is greater than mine, and I decided that the best thing to do was to make sure his needs were met and sort out my own problems later. I will go to confession before I receive the sacrament again in the Catholic church, but its going to be one of those cases where what I am sorry for is not what one might expect. I'm sorry I had to break the rules in order to do what I feel is the right thing. I'm sorry for not being sorry about it. This sort of thing has happened to me before, and Catholic priests are generally pretty understanding. But for my husband and I, the bigger question was is it appropriate for a person who no longer understands what it is he is doing to receive the sacrament. Would a blessing from the priest be more appropriate? We spoke with the Episcopal priest, and he was fine with it because although he no longer understands what he is doing, he still wants to participate and that God can work with him on his level. I can accept that. Its important to me that we approach this in a respectful matter.
@@CSanderson6291 thanks for your comment. I appreciate your sincerity. I'm not sure I quite understand your first question, but I'll take a crack at it. The bread and water is symbolic of the body and blood of Christ, just as in the Old Testament, sacrificial lambs were symbolic of Christ, but not literally Christ. Before Christ's time, lambs were sacrificed looking _forward_ to Christ's future sacrifice. Nowadays, we participate in the sacrament looking _back_ on Christ's sacrifice. As for baptism, it is generally agreed upon that the purpose of baptism is for the remission of/cleansing of sin. We agree, but we also believe it's a two-way street. We look at baptism as a commitment to God, the turning of a new leaf, a promise to keep God's commandments. In exchange, through Christ's atonement, our sins are washed away. Partaking of the sacrament embodies a similar promise. In the blessing of the bread and water, we renew our promise to keep God's commandments and, through Christ's atonement (symbolized through the sacrament), we can receive the same blessing we received at baptism. Does that make sense? As for original sin, we believe that physical death and sin are very real consequences of Adam and Eve's decision, but we do not believe we will be held accountable for their decision. We feel and suffer the consequences of their decision, but it was _their_ decision. We will be punished only for the sins we commit. We believe sin is something you commit, not something you inherit. To use a metaphor: If Adam punches me in the nose, I may bleed and feel an immense amount of pain, but I'm not guilty of throwing the punch. He is. I'm only guilty of the punches I throw, the decisions I make. Hope that makes sense. I know it's a complicated subject so feel free to share your thoughts. As for the situation with your FIL, I think you're handling it just fine :). So if I understand correctly, you are Catholic but your FIL is Episcopalian, and you go to church with him because you're his primary caregiver. But it sounds like, when you're able, you also attend the Catholic church and take communion there. So the question is, is it a sin for you to take the sacrament in the Episcopal church even though you're a Catholic? If I've understood wrong, let me know... ...That's quite the predicament! A Catholic attending the Episcopal church, asking questions on a Latter-day Saint RU-vid channel! Of course, being a Latter-day Saint, I believe both the Episcopal Church and the Catholic Church are missing some important gospel pieces, but I also believe that, as the Episcopal priest suggested, God knows your heart, and your FIL's heart. He knows you mean well and are trying your best to do the right thing. I don't speak for God, but I think either choice is probably OK with him. God judges us based on the knowledge we have. If your FIL has lost the knowledge he once had, I don't think he'll be held as accountable as someone who is aware of their actions. At the same time I don't think there's anything wrong with continuing to participate despite his Alzheimers. Just to add a bit more opinion to this novel -- I think this situation relates to the whole "form over substance" philosophy. The "form" of the sacrament doesn't mean much without the "substance" attached to it (for instance, our prayers become less effective if we just mindlessly repeat the same prayer every morning without actually meaning it. These are called "vain repetitions" in the scriptures). So if your FIL has lost his capacity to understand and participate in the sacrament _in_ _his_ _heart_ , then I don't think it would be inappropriate or sinful for him to stop altogether. It sounds like your FIL has reached the point in life where the battle is mostly behind him, and God just kind of sits nearby and pats him on the back, you know? I think his participation in the sacrament reflects more _your_ faithfulness than his. But those are just my thoughts. What do you think? Maybe I'm wrong.
@@davidsnell2605 - David, my friend, you have no idea. I'm breaking this up into segments or I'll need to publish a table of Contents. Life is crazy sometimes. I am indeed a Catholic attending an Episcopalian church and asking questions about the church of the Latter Day Saints. My nephew.. well actually a cousins kid....had his Bah Mitzvah a few weeks ago. I am very proud. To be honest we just call the people in our age bracket cousins, the younger ones are nieces and nephews and the older ones are aunts and uncles and grandparents. Its easier this way. My husband says that if we feed you, we keep you. My family is diverse. It's also huge. I'd say 75% Roman Catholic . But , through marriage and subsequent children some are Jewish , we have a handful of various Protestant faith's, a Greek Orthodox cousin by marriage who is currently expecting (I am pretty sure new baby will be Greek Orthodox) and my cousin just married a Byzantine Catholic last year. Pick a holiday, I'm sure we have someone who celebrates it. Our children grow up well versed and accepting of the differences between us. There is always an adult happy to explain beliefs, rituals and customs. We do all the holidays and help the kids keep it straight by having the celebrations in the homes of the appropriate family branch. An example would be Passover being held in a Jewish household, then Easter dinner after church at my house. It gets complicated. Logistically its a nightmare at times. The very young ones blend it all together but eventually they figure out which religion they were born into. We have had a couple of kids jump to the religion of a cousin, but not as many as you might think. No members of your church as of yet. So, why am I here? Call it a mothers intuition. I know my kid. She wont stay Catholic. After much thought on her part, she decided against conformation last year. I was surprised but if God has other ideas for her, I'm not going to argue. Your church has a lot to recommend it in terms of culture and beliefs that she finds attractive. It's interesting watching her explore her options. She's going directions I didn't anticipate. My job is to love and support. She also thinks that I have all the answers to everything so I try to anticipate questions. It's a mom trick.
@@davidsnell2605 - I wanted to address the rest when fresh and bright eyed in the morning. Its interesting that you see the other Christian faiths as missing part of the overall picture. This is not an unfamiliar concept to a Catholic, as the Protestant faiths don't include the deuterocanonical texts. I agree with you regarding mindlessly muttering repetitive prayers. It's not much of a prayer if your a broken record on autopilot. Were you referring to the rosary? Some people do just whip through it as fast as possible just to get it done with. That's a misuse and has no purpose. The way I see it, is why bother. Its supposed to be used as a counting tool while you meditate on the mysteries. Original sin. Not talked about as much as on earlier generations. My grandparents believed that if a baby died before baptism that it went to purgatory. I don't. In fact, I asked that question when I was preparing for my confirmation over 30 years ago and the priest said no. I agree that a person should be responsible for thier sins and that you shouldn't get stuck paying for the failures of your ancestors. But...I dont agree enough to not baptize my baby asap. And, no. I can't give you a good reason other than it's a way to start out on the right foot in building a lifetime relationship with God. FIL. I personally believe that he is now beyond the ability to sin. On his best days, he has the cognitive function of a 4 year old. The "best" days are few and far between. He is losing his ability to speak. He was a gifted amateur artist who attended MIT. He struggles with color by number and child's connect the dots when he can do them at all. He no longer recognizes us and doesn't know our names. He needs his food cut for him, and to be reminded soup is easier to eat with a spoon than a fork. He likes to look at pictures in a children's bible. Things change by the moment. We can be in church and hes following along and things are great, then boom, disorientation. He worries that its not his church. It doesn't look like the one 800 miles away he attended as a child. Where are his parents and siblings? Other than church and doctors appointments, we seldom leave the house now. One reason for his still recieving communication is that it calms him. He seems more at peace with himself for days afterwards which is interesting because I know that he cant remember we went to church within 5 minutes of leaving. I can sin, obviously. I did a lot of thinking and praying before I took on the responsibility of doing whatever it takes to see him through this final illness. Compromises must be made. I've gone against the teachings of the Catholic church before and I am sure I will again. I just try to do so only after a great deal of thought and prayer. So...basically the rule I set for myself is that if I drop dead tomorrow, God and I can at least discuss the situation and hopefully that at least he will know I'm trying hard to make the best choice I can in any given situation. I may still be wrong, but doing the best I can has got to count for something. God isnt a jerk.
I used to bring homemade gluten free bread for my daughter and everyone who took the bread from that tray also got the gf bread. The kids sitting near us would always say how yummy that bread was. 😂
I like Kwaku's idea of sourdough bread, or Justin's idea of fresh homemade bread. I wish someone would do that instead of the white bread that is always what seems to be used. The number one thing though, that I wish the Priest's who break the bread would keep in mind though is this: Please, please! do not pinch the bread and leave your finger marks on it. I so hate that, it turns my stomach. Priest's, please learn to gently break the bread apart as you prepare it. That is what I was taught, and I wish was stressed more with that calling. Nobody wants to put smashed pieces of bread in their mouth.
@@williamhenley8593 Well it has been a long time since I did it, and you are right. I know the Teachers prepare it, and that was what was in my thought process. I'll correct my comment. Thanks William.
Blood and water came from Jesus side when he was pierced.Jesus said take this one and do this in remembrance of me. so since ya can't drink wine, water would be closest to the original.
@@RileyDueck What Hannah said though is true. This might answer the question though: www.lds.org/new-era/2008/11/to-the-point/why-do-we-use-water-instead-of-wine-for-the-sacrament?lang=eng&_r=1
@@RileyDueck yeah I don't really get it either... I don't see why they can't just drink wine at church. Catholic children do it starting around after 8 and they're fine. I do see how it's simpler to just have a blanket no wine ever rule, but Jesus said to do it.
I've heard several people say cola is against the word of wisdom but I found out from actual members that rumor started because not too long ago it became popular not to drink anything with caffeine but I heard Elder Uchtdorf mention "with the help of a diet soda that will remain nameless", and diet soda may be low in sugar and calories but if it's not caffeine free it still has caffeine. Sorry, I meant President Uchtdorf.
Why does the least smartest among you have the loudest voice? Is he compensating for his lack of knowledge by being loud and being clowish to bring some entertainment value?
The Sacrament is a sacred ordinance. I worry that too many people are being forbidden the Sacrament for being late when they did their best (or even do their best every single week) to prepare for it. Spiritually ready and on time sometimes don't coincide.
Another Jesus another gospel, Joseph turned wine into water and unleavened bread to leaven. . Family is what saves you if you're a Mormon. BYW Satan is Mormon Jesus's brother....Get a clue Mormonism is Lucerfarian.
*OMG GET THAT POOR FISH IN A BIGGER TANK!!!* I don't care if you "only move him to the bowl for the videos" or whatever excuse you have, its still torture! A goldfish needs a medium to large tank (20+ gallons) with a filter! If you want to put a fish in a bowl get a betta, they can actually live comfortably in a gallon or 2 without filtration. *STOP TORTURING THAT POOR FISH!!* I don't even care what you have to say, till you stop torturing helpless animals you are nothing to me.
I know that you are concerned with goldy. But They already mention gazillion times that they transfer the fish into a bigger tank when they ate not filming. Also goldy is one of the host of 3mormons or Saints unscripted
Hey friends. We know this is a problem for many of you, no matter if he's only in there for 1-2 of 168 hours a week. And I know this still won't mean much to you since you seem to have made up your mind but Guppy is so, so, so happy. He swims around all day in his tank surrounded by humans who love him and talk to him. He's even learned some tricks :) We love him so much and are fairly certain that the feeling is mutual. Have a fabulous day.
@@SaintsUnscripted if you love him why do you torture him? Moving a fish is very stressful and keeping him in a bowl for any length of time is harmful.
From what we've read, a goldfish tank needs to be cleaned every 7-10 days. The cleaning of the tank may take up to two hours. Most websites recommend putting the goldfish into a bowl of water while the cleaning is taking place. So actually, it looks like we're following typical goldfish protocol. We might be wrong but that seems to be the case on most websites.
@@SaintsUnscripted then you need a new source. Get a gravel vac and use that to remove the gunk from the bottom and 10 to 25% of the water in the process.. When done replace the 10 to 25% of water that you removed while doing the vacuuming with conditioned, room temp water. If you are changing out all the water every time and/or removing the fish you are doing it wrong. To put it in perspective, a goldfish in a bowl is like a human locked in a phone booth that has a puddle of urine in the bottom... unpleasant.
