Should You Cut Fat BEFORE Trying to Build Muscle? 

But u can do both?

@@peaceandquiet2377 there’s a lot of factors that go into that. Generally you can do both “IF” you have a high amount of BF and are generally untrained.

Bull crap, fat releases energy for you to rip your muscle to shreds. You lift heavier.

extended fasting is the best way to lose fat and preserve muscle.

​@Mark Davis ur body releases growth hormone when fasting. u lose MUCH more muscle dieting than fasting. fasting is almost purely fat loss.

Yes but that's not what this video is about. He never claimed you should avoid resistance training if you are fat or obese. He simply stated that you should cut down the fat prior to making an attempt at building muscle. Especially so when building with a high caloric surplus

My experience having been off of my feet for 10 months due to an injury is that it is EXTREMELY important to have some muscle. I was in the obese range and fasting made me lethargic. When I started lifting weights and fasting IF, my weight loss improved and my energy and attitude soared. I am going to now work with the info in this video and get out of the "overweight" range ASAP, i.e. longer fasts, and see how my progress goes. Thank you, Thomas, for your excellent work. I will be studying more videos to see how to go about fasting.

I’m 252lbs 6’2 with a lot of visceral fat on my belly I will be lifting full body 3 sets each 5 days a week for 1 month and doing 1 mile a day walk/job while eating 1800 calories a day I say do both lowers calories weights and cardio that way I may not gain the muscle mass but I will retain as much as possible while losing the weight once I drop the fat then I can increase calories take out cardio and switch to 3 days a weak instead of 5 days full body weights

@@AMGTT How did it went bro?

agreed

Any updates?

updates on your journey?

update?

Me too!

Same. Was trying to decide for prepping for OCR race

Same

Same. Lol.

What did you focus on losing the fat? Aerobics and weight?

@@CorfuGainzI bet it was just Cardio cardio cardio lmao

is it really love, once u really understand what it does to you?

Are You an ectomorph?Tell me about how tall are You now how much You weight now and before.I am an ectomorph too .I was fat almost all time since I started to put weight years ago

This was a very helpful video. Showed me I need to cut the remaining 25 lb first rather than second, so the cardio is back in the plan.

I have one question i never hear anyone discuss, maybe its only related to me, and its what happens if you fast the day after a heavy weights work out. I do a complete no food fast one day a week on a monday, but because of my schedule i usually do weights on a weekend. If i train weights on a Sunday enough to get sore, does fasting the next day cause problems repairing and building the muscles back up. Will it stop any gains in strength? DO i need to compensate by having higher amounts of protein on the weekend? I am carrying at least an extra 30kgs of fat, so i am fasting, a bit of cardio through the week (i hit the heavy bag for 6 to 8 rounds on a tuesday and thursday), and doing weights on the weekend. The weight is coming off slowly but consistently

​@@MrSoggyjocks I think you're hurting yourself a little bit. If the body doesn't have or receive the needed nutrient building blocks while the muscle building stimulus is fresh (2-6 hours) the body will catabolize amino acids from muscles you currently have to acquire the amino acids it needs to repair the micro-tears in the muscle fibers created by the exercise. . Exercising prior to a fast can increase human growth hormone (HGH) and make the body avoid converting muscle into fuel, but the HGH is only partially successful because catabolic stuff still has to occur for the repairs. Basically if you lift weights hard and don't feed the need, the body will pull amino acids it needs for repairs and then simply not grow,... Here is the way I effectively lose weight: 1- eat 20% more grams of protein than you think your body needs daily if you can use 100 grams then eat 120 grams of protein,...its only 500ish calories, so its still just a fraction of what you can have. Some things have to go to the wayside to create a deficit but hit the protein target everyday to avoid catabolism of muscle tissue. 2-I skip breakfast and drink lots of black coffee to kill my appetite earlier in the day and create a big calorie deficit that is kind of hard to ruin in the last third of my day. Then I'll be so hungry Im ready to give in,...handful of almonds and then run away from the food and get busy at work,...I stole another hour or two for only 100 calories,....I might have to do that again,... it wont work as well the second go around,.... but the work day is almost over. I get home I'm downright hangry lol but I've also made to 6pm on only 230ish calories,....so I can eat a lot and get truly stuffed now,... and still be in a pretty good deficit. I eat the protein part early in the meal and get full faster. But getting genuinely full at some point in the day is important to me emotionally. When I diet like this I never feel like I've been slowly starving myself for 5 weeks because I was completely full just last night. 3- I usually go to the gym about 2 hours after that big meal. I might have been in a very significant calorie deficit all day but after the dinner this workout is well fueled and has the building blocks it needs for the growth orders I give it. Then I workout pretty hard,.... after work its not too hard to bring on a substantial fatigue level,...pretty much go until I feel like I have nothing left . If I'm that tired I probably wont be hungry,...but if I want it I'll do a protein shake that's only 100-200 calories before bed. I don't really need the protein so much because of the recent meal but it does top me off before bed. I find it much easier to part with the meals calories during my workout if I know I wont have to go to bed hungry.

What do you eat and when? Im struggling getting the scale to move even with if, clean keto, and exercise. Idk what im doin wrong.

@@haveabanana2930 go by your running weekly averages or something like that instead of each day to day. That Can help you see the trend better if you weren’t already doing that

CLAP, CLAP, CLAP!! ...KEEP IT UP NANCY!!! YOU GOT THIS!!!

u can't build muscle (very well) while at a calorie deficit. thats y body builders have bulk and cut phases.

@@juanwononeyuan the general population aren't body builders taking drugs you clown

​@@DarkAbyss9 u don't have to be a body builder to learn from them. u need an ongoing calorie surplus to build muscle well.

@@juanwononeyuan body recomp definitely achievable especially as beginners/ intermediates

@@juanwononeyuan you don't need a caloric surplus to build muscle, you need a positive nitrogen balance, so if you eat a lot of protein you can still build muscle in a deficit, although I don't recommend it

The Agoge diet isn't a real thing. Its literally just a balanced diet someone started calling agoge on youtube.

long road broo

Are you a man or women ? Makes a difference, as us women carry more fat naturally.

Insulin sensitivity + leptin sensitivity.

Keto worked the best for me

I lost 50 pounds in about 3 months on keto, it works, just follow it through

What did you end up doing?

Learn

I agree. I love how smart he is but I find that I often space out because it’s like listening to a college lecture that goes into detail. I’m glad he’s talking at a slower pace now. I wish he and others would give a very basic explanation in layman’s terms first, then do the breakdown. I think I’d follow these videos better. I still listen to them and save some to listen again to hopefully saturate my brain eventually. I listen to three different people. He’s the first that I listen to each day. One of these days I’m going to sit down with pen and paper. Slow the video down. Stop it, take notes. Google if need be. Or find the study that he’s talking about and make myself read through. I’m on a journey to lose 60 pounds and gain muscle and keep bone density. In six weeks I’ve lost 20 pounds but have gained fat %. So today I’m looking for answers on that. I’d like my fat % to go down. I fluctuate between 33-35%. 😞 Good luck with your goals! 😁

How did you not understand that. Are you American?

Try a protien sparing modified fast.PSMF It will shred you.

plateaus r normal. do longer fasts, like as long as u can. after 3 days u'll realize u can just as easily go a week or two...or four.

definitely get this, works great

Interesting ! Do u remember where u heard it?

Is it a hip arthritis?how old are you.

It's very hard to do. If you're experienced it isn't likely

Tha Kraken all u have to do is increase ur protein and eat less calories

Tha Kraken I’ve done it already, I lost 30lbs in 4 months and I look great 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼

I've done all 3 at the same time and can recommend it, however I would recommend focusing on building muscle, then switching to keto plus IF

You probably lost a lot of muscle (and other lean mass) on the way down. I made that mistake.

@@Lollol-jo3wqDo resistance training and get enough protein in the meals you do eat to keep you building muscle even when you’re burning fat. You can find protein calculators online.

Yes, I mentioned that in the video. Obese absolutely need to lean out a bit first.

Nutritional focus is KEY

extended fasting is the best way to lose fat. don't be intimidated, its easy after a day or two. look up Angus Barbieri, on wikipedia.

Don't try and find a reason to get triggered, Karen..he told the obese to trim first ....if you weren't so quick to cancel...you would have heard him say that

I started over 600lbs im averaging losing 10 pounds a week. Everyone is different. Can't really take advice from people who havnt been really morbidly obese then the ones who have. With that being said every morbidly person that dropped the weight and became healthy all say they wish they started out lifting weights. I'm doing that rn and its working just fine. I bench press over 400 pounds everything I do I do for reps and heavy weight. I post regularly on ig and weekly videos for RU-vid. Feel free to ask me anything if you have any questions 🙏🏽. All you need to do is START✊🏽

Same here: I am currently on a strict: 30 sec pause at most for my weight trainingand to really stick to that and I see that it gets me sweating really great, But it also shows me I need to put in more effort in my cardio and general just do more activity in the week and really eat a lean diet and not fall back into bad habits so my pounds can start falling (Fat pounds,) It takes time and the muscle growth wont be optimal but it will still happen. And still help. with passsive burning.

You do both if you have a lot of belly fat you go in a calorie deficit while lifting weights with few days of cardio as you come down in weight lost the belly fat to a ok level you can actually cut back in cardio focus on weights and increase your calories from there u can now do cycle build muscle with increased calories and when u want to lean out lower calories

@@AMGTT even if you don't build muscle, lifting weights will at the very least spare the muscle you already have. So, there really is no reason to need to wait until you lose the weight. Plus, the exercise will still burn more calories. So, even if you can't build muscle, you will at least burn more fat eventually leading to the same results.

I found that my weight went down a little, but the fat to lean ratio improved dramatically, from 1:1 to 1:2. I hope for 2:5.

What are you strongly disagreeing with? I realize this is a 2 year old comment. The studies support the idea that it is more optimal to lose the fat first before a serious attempt to build muscle. It doesn’t indicate that you won’t build muscle while overweight. Doesn’t indicate you won’t build muscle on a bulk while overweight.

why do those fuckers always put your personal information on the box? they keep putting my phone number on the sticker for everyone to see next to my name and address.

@@miguelmejia4656 call them or e-mail them I never noticed better check 👍

I've found that grass fed meat is cheaper at the store. At Aldi's I can get 85/15 beef for about $5. WalMart has 80/20 grass fed beef under $5 too

@@thakraken6995 I’ve not found any except ground beef at shop rite 1dollar a pound more

check out ur local butcher. mine is all grass-fed and local...and way cheaper.

I think my point is that is it a daily transition we have to go through when following the keto diet daily.. or can you just stay in ketosis everyday without dipping in and out??.. I was in ketosis yesterday then when I woke up I knew I wasn't. It's now 3pm and if been in ketosis for a few hours again. Feel great but had to wait. Will it always be like this. If anyone knows what I'm on about please reply. Thanks . Much love

Right down the road from ya in Monterey

Def start with light weights.