SHOULD YOU PULL? Jade & Argenti Banner Review | Honkai: Star Rail 2.3 

but even then, follow up attack units like ratio and topaz dont really benefit jade as much because she gets stacks slower (because theyre single target) which means less damage.

@Avocadopaper-pm6cd But this also means more damage for each follow up attack unit since Jade increases follow up attack damage. You made good points about using with Erudition-like characters, but that's all for personal Jade damage, which is fine and why we put AoE follow up attack units in. One way helps the follow up attack unit, and your way helps Jade get stacks quicker. Both increase damage just for different characters😁

So through research and a friend's help: "One of Robin's traces does in fact boost the Crit dmg of follow-up attacks by 24%, but the issue is that it's so small of a buff that it barely means much. The price of making her universal" Taking this into effect, Robin is great but the buff is very minimal comparatively

Sounds fun! I (Vixen) am saving for Sparkle, Black Swan, then Silver Wolf. Good luck on who you pull next!

@@gachainteract Thanks!

I'm glad I lost 50/50 in ff banner I didn't rlly need e1 now I have bronya and pulls just enough for jade

same! my only problem is that both firefly and boothill use the same characters and idk if i should pull for argenti

lucky, for me i got clara at 75 pity on the robin banner and quit hsr for abit, then restarted for firefly and finally pulled her at 76 pity.. and i reached 40 pity for ruan mei but couldn't get her :(( my hsr luck is so bad lol, unlike what everyones saying my genshin luck is sm better

looking at leaks, Jiaoqiu is gutted and is an easy skip

They ruined him so much unfortunately, i was so excited to make my acheron stronger ​@ThatPool

@@Hayem286 oh no my friend if u are pulling Jiaoqiu for Acheron its fine, he is still BiS for Acheron support, they just gutted his usefulness apart from being Acheron support

@ThatPool not really? I mean they made part of his kit dot for some reason , lowered his multipliers, and removed the healing as well, so he isn't the greatest for acheron apart from giving stacks

@@Hayem286 giving her stacks is why he is still BiS for Acheron, they lowered his multipliers on E1 only, its just that he doesnt heal anymore and he is just a slight upgrade of Pela/Gui in terms of debuff and DoT if u are playing him on any other team than Acheron

Best of luck!

Is ruan mei in a standard banner? I mean, does this work like genshin pity? (Sorry I'm new to this game, I pulled ruan mei cause I think she's like Kazuha in Genshin, so versatile)

​@@hellorion2701ruan mei isnt in the standard banner and yes the pity works the same

me to! i am saving now for houhou, acheron, boothil, robin, black swan, aventurine, yunli, and the last one Sunday. Sunday got leaks i am so existed for him

@@star20254 I am saving for Houhou light cone, Silver Wolf light cone, E2 Firefly,E1 Ruan Mei and EOS1 Sparkle . I have E1S1 Firefly and E0S1 Ruan Mei but don't have enough pull to get more.

@@ghekko7917 It never hurts to save. Many people will probably tell you that Jade and Argenti aren’t the most meta units, but with the right teams, they can be just fine.

Good luck pulling!

@@gachainteract thanks! got her :D but will wait for future banner updates before pulling argenti :D

She doesn't necessarily help other follow-up characters. For instance, in the video, we talked about Topaz and Jade. Jade uses follow-up characters to enhance herself to do a bigger follow-up attack. So follow-up may need a support in the future that buffs follow-up attack damage

@@gachainteract Robin has a trace that increases damage from follow up attacks by like 25% what do you mean? Robin buffs follow up damage in her kit

@@chegg8851 As stated in a different comment section: "One of Robin's traces does in fact boost the Crit dmg of follow-up attacks by 24%, but the issue is that it's so small of a buff that it barely means much. The price of making her universal. Sorry for the confusion."

@@vashthestampede3459 Well Pure Fiction is tailored for Follow-Up characters for the most part. It really encourages it by providing you with buffs. However, outside of Pure Fiction, Follow-Up becomes a bit underwhelming when compared to most other team setups. Follow-Up really needs some of those buffs given within Pure Fiction in new characters to make Follow-Up a competitive option in other endgame content. I (Ryft) am hopeful and excited for Jade and Yunli to see how they can affect the state of Follow-Up in a positive way. For one thing, Yunli’s damage in the current beta is impressive. You are right about some other comps out there. I think people are just wanting more out of Follow-Up in general because initially, it was a very cool concept, and to see it suffer from Day 1 can be a little disheartening for the people who really try to make it work in other content besides Pure Fiction. I, for one, am one of those people you could say lol. Topaz is my favorite character in the game, and she did help Follow-Up by a considerable margin, but it wasn’t quite enough to compete with something else like DoT for example. However, I think she was the initial stepping stone to put Follow-Up on the right path (no pun intended). Anyways, thanks for the insightful comment. Love to hear others’ opinions. I think it’s great for discussion, and speaking of which, our Discord is one of the reasons for that!

I regret pulling e0 ruined me mei she literally spoils the game 😂😢

@@Shiroeel Your Break Effect team is perfect to say the least. As for another team specifically for MoC, Follow-Up is going to struggle more than other team options. Now Jade and Yunli especially may change that. It just depends on their personal power and synergies with other units. Personally, I (Ryft) find DoT teams to do pretty well in MoC and a team like Kafka, Black Swan, Guinaifen, and any sustain that makes the most sense for the situation you’re up against covers other elements you may need for the other side of MoC in most any given rotation. Thanks for the comment and for watching ofc!

@@gachainteract ahh i see thank you for the guide but id rather says that not only MOC but other end game content thats im looking and thats the case why im looking for 1 more team that can fit into MOC PF and apocalpytic shadow

@@star20254 Although Jade looks amazing, this beauty banner looks like a skip for most

​@@gachainteractyes, you are right

Huohuo for sure. A good sustain like Huohuo is great, and Fu Xuan and Aventurine are even better

@@gachainteractthx!

Which is why we stated to use her to buff Erudition/AoE/FuA characters

@@RXVZ0 he'll rerun but it probably won't be for awhile sadly since he was just here

Yes since he’s a limited 5 star he will return

@@gachainteract good to know Il be grinding for stellar gems till then. Thanks!

@@Cookies_aregood thanks!

Break Effect go brrrrr

Good luck🫡

Yes, more AoE is better for Jade specifically, but that doesn’t mean you can’t run Topaz or Ratio with her either. Clara is a great option like you stated. Jade will be fine with Topaz mainly because Topaz increases all follow-up attack damage, but she also hits frequently with Numby. Focusing too much on Jade’s one follow-up mechanic instead of the team as a whole could result in damage loss in specific situations. If you’re running Path of Elation in a Simulated Universe run, Topaz, if you have her, is not a “bad” choice. Even Argenti would be good with Jade if you were to come across the blessing that considers your Ultimates as follow-up attacks. With or without that blessing, he works with her anyways since he hits multiple targets often. There’s just so many different things that could work, but it’s not like single-target units “won’t work” with Jade. It just means building up to her follow-up attack slower. She has other damage in her kit as well.

@@gachainteract I see how she could work well in the simulated universe with a single target unit like topaz, but in any other gamemode you guys need to consider that she is essencially a sub dps, even more than clara or hunt march 7 could be. So she needs to focus in launching her follow up as many times as possible considering both her ultimate and her recomended planar sets buffs her follow ups

For PF don't care the team. But for Moc he need Huo Huo Tingyun + other support , cuz the ulti of 180 energy is the real damage.

Here's my team: Argenti,Bronya,Tingyun and HuoHuo.

@@WeAreOne-xj3ny how does bronya work with him tho? do you have to do the speed tuning stuff?

@@XiasGaming can the support be anyone?