#starwars #swtor #sith I've never seen that decision, it kinda surprised me when he said that, did not expect it at all Star Wars The Old Republic - Sith Warrior Sith Marauder - Fury Discipline Corellia Discord - / discord
@@michaelgreenwood3413 And for all the Jedi know, the SW only killed those people in self-defense, if his current demeanor is any indication. Especially if the SW actually *is* LS and the Jedi can sense that.
@@0v3rh3473d That is basically LS SW for you he just walks into firefights stops them asks if everyone is doing ok and then points at some people says hey they are bad guys and then walks away either fighting with the people he was orginally sent to kill or making a jedi pen pal fan club
Honestly it was Baras' own overreaching ambition and his fear of his loyal apprentice who has done everything that he's asked that led to this. Where it wasn't for the Republic's sake he rooted these spies out, but rather a message to both his master and all other sith that if you plan to backstab someone, you better damn well make sure that they're brain dead and have no pulse.
@@ethrsag735 The worst thing about it all is that not even that guarantees their destruction as seen with the apparitions in Inquisitor and much later with Palpatine 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Can't kill a powerful sith by such means. Still, the most impressive of these would be the Emperor himself who cheated death more times than death itself 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I love the option of this scene where the traitor comes out willingly thinking you’re on their side and you’re just like “cool, lock her up Jedi” her face is priceless everytime
I literally said aloud to the screen (like the annoying guy at the movies who won't shut up) "Yeah you're blind, and apparently dumb. Wish you were deaf too!"
Jesus was one of the most powerful Jedi ever. He used the force to travel across the universe and got a third of this planets population to worship him.
Often wondered why they didn’t add a storyline where you could join the republic as Sith warrior. I went for a lightside play through as Sith Juggernaut with light Jaesa, would have liked to be able to renounce the Sith when you find her and take Karr to Tython personally and join the order, it could have been an interesting storyline with some curious conversations.
@@ariald869 what do you mean? It would only be for the Warrior story class, I would imagine the side for the warrior could be switched from Imperial to Republic. Indeed the character could simply be referred to as a Jedi in non-class stories (npcs in non-class usually don’t refer to class anyway (there are exceptions but like I said it must be possible to work around this)).
@@joebloggs7514 That would mean he would actually have to change faction and everything which would not be possible with an empire starting class and any other class would wish for similiar stoey plots then
@@ariald869 I am surprised it would not be possible considering you used to pick your starting class and then chose your specialisation between the two when you reached level 10 (pretty sure it was level 10), and you choose and can change your alignment (light or dark) so surely the mechanic is there. I am not saying it wouldn’t be a pain in the arse to facilitate but I imagine it would still be possible. As to everyone wanting to change, each class has different storylines with different opportunities and restrictions. Before I say anymore have you played warrior and other classes as I don’t want to spoil any storylines.
@@joebloggs7514 i have played every class story and i am aware of the example of the imperial agent joining the SIS, which did (Spoilers) become irrelevant after Shadow of Revan anyway and technically you still do everything for the empire with no change in faction except the little story bits and (Spoilers Iokath) the possibilities to betray your faction on Iokath, which is totally independent from former story choices and can be done by any class. the gameplay and official faction never changes though
Not to burst anyone's bubbles, but I'm pretty much sure that the line is a deception on the warrior's part in order to avoid killing the present Jedi and walk away undisturbed. After all, a running theme with both the neutral and light-sided Sith warrior is that he/she actively avoids killing people he/she hasn't been ordered to/has no reason whatsoever to, and you get many roleplaying opportunities to decive and pull people's legs to do just that all over the class story (the most famous of which is perhaps the whole "I'M GOING TO KILL YOU AND EAT YOU ALL RAW!" business back on Dromund Kass)
What the heck is the kill you and eat you all raw business on Dromund Kaas? Been playing since release with oodles of alts and I don't remember anything like that lol
@@Velisatra One of the first class story mission of the Sith warrior on Dromund Kaas has them going to a local spaceport to retrive a captured Republic agent on the command of their master, Darth Baras. Once they get there, they are ambushed by two different groups of hired thugs (which are heavily implied to be on other Sith's payroll) who want to spirit away the prisoner for their respective employer. The choices available go as follow: 1) The dark side option is about killing them all 2) The neutral option is about tricking them, either by making them fight each other to the death or convincing them the warrior is a cannibal, which makes them afraid enough to leave without a fight The latter option specifically has the warrior screaming "I'M GOING TO KILL YOU AND EAT YOU ALL RAW!" at the top of their lungs, followed by "... AND THEN PICK MY TEETH WITH YOUR BONES!". For extra fun (or horror, depending on your point of view), you can then clarify to the Imperial personnel assigned to you that the above was no bluff, if you catch my drift.
most of my characters have a running theme of being cannibals in any game that allows me too so it wouldnt be a bluff for my character tho i played a full dark side sith that did every dark option
This reminds me of one decent fanfic about an Old Republic-era Sith Lord (from SWTOR) who got "transported" to the Clone wars-era galaxy, and proceeded to join the Republic in making war against the separatists. Good times.
I love that line, I made a new character just to make sure I heard it right, i'm glad the Sith Warrior can be a spy now. There was only afew times I did lightside things but most of them were Post Act 2 with Dark Side Jaesa. I realllllyyy hope if the Sith Warrior joins the Republic story not gameplay wise (Like Iokath) You can turn her to the light again, my sith regrets it.
@@Mediados Agreed. I was disappointed that turning her dooms her to being just another stereotypical hedonistic savage type of sith. Would have been cool if we could influence her personality more. Would have made more sense too, being an *apprentice* after all.
@@mrschizo2837 Even worse, all the evil Sith you fight in your story are much less brutal. She literally just wants to kill people, thats the entirety of her personality.
I actually really like these moments of collaboration between two very different sides, like the best part of Shadow of Revan was the alliance between Pragmatic Daddy Marr and Mommy Shan, such a great chemistry and, such an amazing opportunity for diversion.
I loved playing Sith Warrior as the generic evil sith, It was fun, Not often you can be the villain of the story Then afterwards tried the light side, And felt it poetic, The empire done nothing but betray me over and over again, First time round I was fine with crushing them under my boot, Then got fed up and joined the republic And it felt right, Likd I was a redeemed Darth Vader of the story, Just to let go and try the other side, My sith teachings stays with me, And I now test my mettle against other sith I love both my dark side and light side sith warrior, One with Lana and the other with Vett This will always be my favourite class story
They totally missed the opportunity to allow changing sides especially with the Force Users as it never sat right with me having a Darkside Jedi still being allowed to be in the order just not as a Master. Same with a Light Side Sith staying as a Sith considering the Knight story has you turning one of Darth Angral's apprentices to the Light Side so not letting you do the same was stupid.
Because if they did that, they'd have to transfer the old Sith-character to the Republic server, and the former Sith would enter the Jedi Guardian's plot midstory. Confusing to say the least.
I think you can just about get away with a Jedi going dark but not joining the Sith if the very reasons he went dark were to destroy the Sith, if he became consumed with war and retribution. You'd still need some kind of acknowledgement that the character isn't really a Jedi anymore (I believe one of the Jedi stories does have you been refused the rank of Jedi Master if you do go too dark so at least that's something). It would be interesting to have a story branch where a Jedi could become a Sith though. A Sith going to the light definitely couldn't stay with the Sith Empire. The very idea of the Sith Empire is steeped in the Dark Side so if a Sith finds redemption they should immediately renounce the Empire and fight against it so a redemption story branch would have been cool. To do things like that though it would mean doubling up on the amount of story content. A redeemed Sith would have no interest in being the Emperor's Wrath and would thus need a completely new story. The two Jedi branches and two Sith branches would need alternate stories and if you're going to have alternate paths for them then it would make sense to have them for the bounty hunter, smuggler, agent and soldier too. That's a lot of content and it's probably not feasible.
@@jedsithor I get why they didn't do it due to the additional stories and the release date, but I'm surprised they didn't think about adding it in afterwards as it certainly would have added to the replay value since you could keep your original Jedi Knight and Sith Warrior in sort of a time bubble then create a new on to explore both the options you didn't choose and to see the character eventually switch sides as who wouldn't love to hear Satele Shan talking about how the Republic's greatest hero had now become it's deadliest enemy. Also when you take into account the encounter the Sith Warrior has in the cave with the opposite and how it talks about being what you could become if you fully embraced that side of the Force, it just adds to the feeling of a missed opportunity which could have been addressed in a update.
I took light-side Jaesa, and why do both versions of her character have to be completely insufferable? She was built up so well, and all they had to do is not give her a terrible personality.
@@TimedRevolver Doesn't really apply to Jaesa that much though. The only ones who betray her at all are possibly her parents (not even sure this counts since she's glad you let them live) and Nomen Karr for shattering her expectations of the Jedi. Neither of these even seem to affect her after she focuses on either light or dark. Your options are emotive as cardboard, or narcissistic, hedonistic, evil zealot. This has little to do with betrayal and everything to do with them dropping the bag. Not to mention they made her light side way better on her return. She actually has emotions now. They made a mistake, but they finally corrected it.
@@fjkly Being disillusioned does terrible things to you as a person. Her return being better was likely, in-canon, a result of her finally moving past that trauma she went through.
@@TimedRevolver It can, but like I said there's nothing to suggest it affects her at all. If anything it's outright ignored. As for her return she claims she's been just trying to survive in a world where she can't fit in, a world without the player. Her trauma at the time is certainly concerning you, not disillusionment.
@@herrscherofisaf5592 You can't. The only way to walk out of this encounter peacefully with Light Side Jaesa is by tricking Baras's pawn into thinking you're there to help her kill the Jedi.
@@BlazinVoid59 hmm I just rechecked, ur right - a friend of mine was just playing full lightside warrior and was streaming it. LOL I’m wrong, that’s rubbish wish we could use Ls jaesa in this scene rip.
I was always disappointed with this quest that after you get the Sith to out themselves that you can't let them survive and change masters and keep disrupting the Jedi like you did the other guy. There's no other option but to kill her, kill everyone (which you can do even if you start with killing her), or tell them to take her into custody.
Was not aware this was an option with jaesa, neat. after 5 years of playing the game with 62 alts i'm still discovering new things, truly a great roleplaying game despite the necessary railroading.
@Nathan Bernacki true. Miraluka are know for using force sight. Though they mostly only see 4 main colors. White for unaligned people/ creatures, blue for light side people/ creatures, red for dark side people and creatures, and grey for everything else.
This is one of many things I'd like about the game (fyi I've never played the old republic game, please no hate) is that you the player have the power to make your character be anything and/or anyone no matter what faction you pick. Like jedi becoming sith, sith joining the jedi or both becoming grey jedi, imperial agents becoming an republic spy, republic soldiers to imperial trooper etc.
yeah being able to flip would be cool, closest you can get to that is imperial agent class story and then the saboteur routes for some of the expansions
Isn't it convenient that RU-vid brings me to this video right after I finished watching Star Wars Visions and craved for more content of Sith lords rejecting the dark side.
It’s funny because that would mean you can just turn to the dark side but still do Jedi things like help them. So you become OP with no consequences lmao
I like that armor you wear. And I'm surprised to see, that your mostly DS Sith Warrior made this decision. Sometimes, not being a aggressor can provide some great surprises. 😅
I always felt the Sith Inquisitor was more Sith and the Sith Warrior was more Dark Jedi. The Sith Warriors storyline could be seen as a potential redemption arc, as after seeing Baras, and later Vitiate, die and his new mentor, Darth Marr, honor could’ve rubbed off on him. Hell, you could even use Baras’ betrayal as an In Universe reason to turn to the light side. Whereas the Sith Inquisitor whole story is her trying to gain more power, be it her power base or her force abilities, which sounds pretty Sith.
Prefer the idea that just as there are toxic aspects of the Jedi code, there are positive aspects of the Sith code, and a Light Side Sith Warrior is primarily embodying those. Sort of a Grey Sith opposite the Grey Jedi.
So, I really wanna get back into the game. How far do choices like these matter. Does the main story actually bring you to the other side? Is it optional or do you have to switch sides? Can you be a jedi-turned-sith as well as a sith-turned-jedi?
You are railroaded into working for one faction or the other for a sizable portion of the game, sadly. At certain opportunities you can also work against the faction you are working for, but largely you are forced to be loyal and will, as a Sith have to kill countless Jedi and vice versa.
@@99thJediWarrior Just my impression when first starting a Sith Warrior character, all DS choices were 'murdur, murdur, mwuahhh evil murdur'. That made me take the LS choices and I often found them to be really surprising or clever. It's not the LS options like those on a jedi character either which are sometimes 'well, I defeated a mass murderer but I am a good jedi so they can walk free to kill more innocents because I must not kill'. Definitely recommend playing a LS Sith Warrior! :)
In hindsight I probably should have brought jaesa to that but instead I just brought vette. I'm going to make it a personal rule now to bring her to any Jedi related endeavors.
Is this one the expansions?(Which one is it) Its so cool to see, because I have a LS Sith Warrior, and for many side missions I wished I could play a little "double game"
a hidden sith surrenders to a pair of soldiers? I know she wouldn't stand a chance but beign arrested by simple soldiers could be one of the worst insults for a sith
(excuse me a bit while I roleplay) Ok that's it. I was going to wait until the end of the campaign, but this is too outrageous. Colluding with the jedi, with republic soldiers, sparing them and even aiding them on multiple occasions, sabotaging imperial operations. With the authority of the dark council and the greater sith empire, I declare you an enemy of the sith order, a traitor to the sith empire, and you will be summarily hunted down and executed We'll see each other soon enough
I have a question so I’m playing a light side sith and I’m trying to not kill the Jedi in this scenario but even when I have jeasa with me I’m not given the option of revealing the hidden sith why is that