Exodus scene from Second Season of Smallville (Episodes "22-Calling" and "23-Exodus") (For English Subtitles click on the [Subtitles/closed captions] icon 📼 bellow the video)
They can be a great people, Kal-El, they wish to be. They only lack the light to show the way. For this reason above all, their capacity for good, I have sent them you... my only son.
The funny thing is, in the Original Movie Jor-El surveys Earth several thousand years before Kal-El heard this message in the Fortress of Solitude. The AI representing Superman's father is therefore speaking about cave dwellers who hunted woolly mammoth for food.
the way they tease the John Williams soundtrack always gives me goosebumps - watching this show after a decade and I must say its better than I remember - ' everything and everyone I love is here...in smallville ' I felt that line
That *thrilled* me like you wouldn't believe when it first aired. The Donner/Reeve Superman was what made me a fan, so anytime they adapted the Williams musical themes into Smallville, I was over the moon.
Every time I see that scene, I wonder if Jor-El WANTED Clark to rebel? Given how smart Jor-El was, you'd think he would know to try to be a little more diplomatic. Say; the Earth is in danger, or something. (don't have to be specific, just say it's from a myriad of threats) Reinforce that the people he cares about will be in danger too if he doesn't embrace his destiny. Use a little guilt, "Care so little about this world that gave you a home to grow up in, that you would now selfishly turn your back on it just to embrace your own desires?" A little gentle prodding & minimal manipulation would have gone a LOT further! NEVER tell a hormonal teenager "You have no choice!"!!!!! You are just ASKING for defiance!
I think that yor-el wanted to have a bond with his son but not the human bond that we know since the Kriptoleans are serious people who express little feeling. first we see yor-el ask him: will you obey me Kal-El? and when yor-el sees the behavior of human rebellion in clark he stresses that he does not forget where he came from (that is, reminding him that he is not human and that he does not behave as one, yor-el wanted to save the earth at all costs and in his own way with his son and he wanted to have a loving bond father and son he didn't mind interacting with humans that's why he's so cold with them he once almost killed chloe in the fortress when clark was training)
I loved how at first you think Jor-El is bad but he’s actually telling Clark he needs to become the worlds savior. They flipped the script a bit in MOS where Joe-El was more nurturing and teach Clark about the symbol of their house was hope. And then Jonathan seemed more like the bad guy bc he told Clark not to reveal himself and maybe let people die bc he didn’t want Clark to be turned against by humans which happens in BvS.
Jonathan was not the bad guy and I don't feel he came across as one. He had concerns which proved correct. That's the oversight of some folk, Jonathan knew the human race wasn't ready for someone like him compared to Jor El who knew nothing. Jor El was the optimist, whilst Jonathan was the Realist.
Gavin says : maybe next time in hindsight he would have thought twice but then again how can you make a choice for a future that was written in the stars until it's too late!!
I think this is the moment that had clark done what Jor-el wanted he would have become the Christopher Reeves Superman, having been in a traing trance for 12 years by his father, but this Clark didnt go.
True. However, leaving someone with an ominous message of their destiny, deciding their destiny without their choice, and punishing him in extremely cruel ways when he refuses. Not cool.
KaraLVRogueLZ Yeah, I think it would have made a big difference if Clark saw season 10 Jor-el and Lara's recording, and then he would be more understanding of his Kryptonian nature and more willing to become Superman
Get Your Muscle Up Not really (besides the fact that he would just be a 17-18 year old Superman). It's more that he accepting his destiny would have been less earned especially in becoming Superman.
Micheal Mah'moud naw fam Christopher Reeve past the tourch to him in season 2. They used alot of the character's from the original superman movie. Once he united the stone's he could have left earth just like chris did in the movie, & came back an adult as superman. Season 5 would have been perfect for that, instead they kept pro longing, not because he was supposed 2 play just Clark, it was because tom didn't want 2 put the suit on and play superman cause he didn't want 2 be type cast. That's been revealed already, so I'm just speaking possibilities that could have happen, & he could have became superman at season 5 when he built the fortress.
i know the writers had an idea of Dr Swan or Christopher Reeve however you want to look at that.... being Jor El on earth i would have loved to see what would have happened
If only Chris hadn't died, forcing the writers to change the story so that Lionel Luthor murdered Dr. Swann off-screen. I would have loved to see how the "Dr. Swann having been Jor-El all along" idea might have played out. Would've been interesting to see Clark's/Kal's reaction to that revelation. The idea made sense if you think about it. How else would Dr. Swann have been able to read the Kryptonian message? How else would he have known Clark was the Kal-El the message was talking about?
@@nicholasbrewer2023 I bet to this day Tom Welling still feels bad about having to act like he was angry with Chris's character and yell at him in the second (and last) episode he appeared in. Chris being the sweetheart he was irl, and a quadriplegic on top of that, must have made filming that scene hurt so much for Tom. I know had it been me having to do something like that, I would have apologized profusely to him afterward, just like I heard Charles Dance did Peter Dinklage every time he had to say something horrible to him in a Game of Thrones scene.
@@joaniekeyser4036 well. If I did have my way. Jor El. Would have been played by Terrance Stamp and stayed. Yes I know he is the voice of what I'll call AI Jor El in the fortress. But I would have had him come in body form like he did in season 9 and be available at least.
if you watch the whole series its becomes clear ,its all a test ,trial and learning for clark/kal-el to become superman and fufil his destiny,also its explained that the ai version of jor-el doesnt contain any ego or emotion that would hinder him teaching clark - BUT i agree they made it too cold,its because they had jonathan for the emotional background aspect in clarks life,but all it does is make it seem like clark never really bonds with jor-el.the first superman movie did it different,he loses jonathan then bonds with jor-el later you cant have 2 fathers it doesnt work
corturia I’m afraid I still don’t understand, they made it that Joe-El has powers to control Clark from the grave. He was blamed for the near death of Lana then the death of Jonathan Kent and then takes Clark’s powers multiple times, I really hated that. It was confusing and contradicting.
@@orlandobabe jor-el has the power to control clark because clark was linked to the ship,the fortress and the other kryptonian technology! The real jor-el created the a.i to guide clark and train him to fufil his destiny which is to guide and lead mankind by becomeing superman.Jor-el in virtually every incarnation of superman is deceased,but through the fortress and other kryptonian technology guides and helps clark,when clark was sent to earth jor-el sent all the knowledge of krypton as well. Everything jor-el did in smallville was to teach clark,to guide him and prepare him to becomeing superman,clark resisted thats why jor-el did the things he did,to teach clark a lesson and make him realise who he is and what he has to do! yes jonathan died as result of he powers straining his heart but this was just poor writing,in most superman storys jonathan dies well before clark becomes superman anyway,its one of the reasons clark does become superman as he realised he couldnt save jonathan,as it is in smallville.Theres nothing confuseing or contradicting theyve been doing the story in one form or another since 1939 what they did in smallville isnt new its just older story arc re-written a little,the final episode is where it all slots together clark finally understands why he was sent to earth,why jor-el did what he did,and why he must now become superman,a hero who can lead mankind and guide them to a brighter future by example,it would not have been possible if jor-el hadn't did what he did to clark,the ultimate story lesson from superman is jor-el knew he couldn't save his own civilisation on krypton,but he could save mankind on earth by sending cal-el!
Oh now I get it. Well I can say that yes it was poor writing. Poor ideas too. Honestly it I would rather they just stick with the 1970's Superman Jor-El plot. If they written it as Zod's plot to getting an escape out of the Phantom Zone so he created a fake message to scare Kal-El and tricking him to letting him out.
@@orlandobabe yeah the writing got lazy but people dont realise the issues that show had copyright wise! for instance lois lane initally was not allowed to be on the show,the writers had to fight warner bros to allow the character to feature,crazy as that may seem almost more unbelevable is that warner bros were fighting a copyright battle with the family of supermans creator for decades that was only finally selttled in 2016 ! filming rights for a superman movie complicated the waters further as to what could be shown on screen in smallville,as for the 70s movie that was an issue as well warners didnt actually own the rights to the 1978 superman movie until 1993 when they purchased it from the salkind family and it was owned by a different divison of warners at the time, i could go on about other stuff as well like the showrunners leaveing then sueing warners but its all out there,its just one more layer to the issues superman has had. the one thing smallville did do was open up the dc universe but in my opinion in a bad way,they let loose everything from crossovers to multiverses and so on,today the shows are just a massive pile of spaghetti with everything thrown in,die hard comicbook fans love it but the average fans and public hate it, thats why marvel is unstoppable they have a more structured universe and make movies and tv shows instead of trying to bring a live comic to the screen.
Yeah. It really wasn't like any misunderstanding they made it out to be later. Dude was doing some straight up villainous crap. Had he said, "Kal-El, you must embrace the path I set out for you and leave everyone behind to become more powerful. You may never see your friends and family again, but you will save their world." That would have made more sense. Clark would choose to stay there because he's not ready and it would cause some problems that didn't box Jor-El as a villain. Jor-El kidnaps a townie and deletes her to make a new Kara, kills Jonathan, and puts everyone in danger just to get Clark to save everyone later. It makes no sense.
Cool if Jor El spoke in kryptonese like MAWS, which would further confuse Clark. If this scene happened with Clark as an adult have the ship form the suit around him.
@@Windona i doubt it. I think it was more Clark's fear powered by Jonathan Kent if anything. While Jor-el did do some harsh things, some of it was caused by Clark overreacting as well
@@michealmahmoud6391 At the same time, the AI ended up branding Clark, brainwashing a teenage girl (since the meteor shower hit, apparently, which is a bit of a continuity snarl), and implied Clark's destiny was to be a conqueror and didn't tell Clark why finding the stones were important beyond 'it's your destiny', and given that it had brainwashed him and given him amnesia to fetch them I'm not surprised Clark didn't trust that. Even worse is that the AI blamed him for the meteor shower because he didn't find the stones, but the AI never told Clark why the stones were important or that the stones getting human blood on them would cause something bad to happen. How different would seasons 3-5 have been if the AI just said "You must collect these stones, because in the wrong hands it could cause a lot of death and destruction, and the sooner you find them the sooner nobody else does"? The AI was needlessly cryptic and outright hurt people.
@@Windona Indeed, and its one of the best reasons I love this scene from the anthology. It explains basically the motivation of The AI has its been programmed and it not being a living being. More, it explains the S symbol as it relates earth to krypton. even the Christian symbolism is strong here
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