SMITE: Why Gems Events SUCK! (+better ways to get Gems) 

Honestly, surveys are a waste of time. Majority of surveys are just survey mazes where as soon as you finish the first they throw another at you, and then another, and then another until you get frustrated and give up.

opens smite sees free gem announcment gets exited goes arena guy uses booster starts playing guy keeps 1v5 diving and then calls us noobs for not helping him we loose guy reports us smite during free gem storm

One thing they could change to make it easier on people is to simply move from "get 3 First Wins of the Day" to "get 3 wins" That way people atleast have the possibility to stick to the gamemode(s) they are comfortable with, while still promoting playing the game itself to get gems.

I swear the amount of F7 warriors triples at least during these events.

I'm pretty sure if you make minimum wage or are looking for a way to get money, buying gems to dress up your smite dolls are the least of your concerns

People will find a way to complain about anything

But it's much more fun to play the game having an extra incentive( in my opinion)

So true I got salty beacuse i came home at 8 pm and mine teamates sucked and i wasted 3 hours on smite and I didn't even completed the quest...

Honestly it should be the same system like the season tickets. To earn the free gems you need 5 Pts. A win = 3pts and a loss = 1pt. Therefore playing in general will give you some sort of progression.

*_I agree with u DukeSloth_* _Yeah Free _*_gems_*_ are good, but...._ _I only play _*_Joust_*_ and _*_Conquest_* *I HATE THE OTHER GAME MODES* _gem event are shit_ _like if u agree_

This is such a first-world problem. "This free to play game is giving us free stuff. But i have to much time on my hands so i need to complain about all the free stuff i get" There are those of us that don't have money to spend on all those cool skins and whatnot, so we appreciate these kind of events.

I won't spend money on this game. Are you crazy?!

From now on all my pay checks will go to gems in smite.

Why would someone who stopped playing the game come back to the game just to get a few gems? How would they even know about the gem storm?

My Gem Event Idea: Don't make it 3 first wins of the day but make it 3 wins total. So 3 conquest wins would work. Also, these events are usually Friday, Saturday and Sunday so you can do the event once per day. A way to get around this issue is make it like quests that you have the whole weekend to complete. A quest to get 3 wins in any game mode and you can repeat this quest 3 times. This will allow people to play the game modes they want while still getting the same amount of total games played to boost activity for HiRez.

Arena-Assault-Clash are the easiest for these kinds of things. Assault is the hardest, cause of all the randomness.

Gem events are fine, the video is unnecessary.

I solo que and I have gotten my 3 wins of the day every day since the event started. and I work a 12 hour job. There's no excuse.

I think it's just a flaw with the quests themselves. They _have_ other quests they just refuse to use them. Do something like "Play 3 games" or "get 100 assists" or even "kill 75 minions." I'm not against the gem storm events, I have friends who can't buy gems and thus rely on them (surveys are wonky, I've gotten one or two to work but ones I've tried since generally don't) - HiRez just needs to change how the event is executed.

They also can take an example of Dota 2 and it's recent Dark Moon event. Basically, they can bring back Xing's Mountain for limited time and make daily quest for surviving like 5 or 10 waves of it with gems reward. This way they still can make people back in the game and do not ruin expiriens in normal queues.

i dont mind the gem event , i really hate the random chest tho

You miss a few things though. Its not some, its a lot of countries who dont have average of 5 dollars per hour. Also a job is a responsibility while these free gems are possibility. Nobody obliges you to do it.

wish console players could use the surveys....

it's all fun, until you are over halfway in a survey then all of a sudden the survey tells me I am unable to complete the survey because it 'wont match my profile'

If you have a group of at least 3(yourself included) then you can do arena-> joust-> siege/assault Pretty consistent if your friends are competent (but I'm a lowly console boy so what do I know)

The playing vs buying gems thing... I still enjoyed playing Smite even during the gem event. A few tryhards, but not really noticeably more than normal. The gems were just a fun bonus.

HiRez has already stumbled upon the solution, but removed it. At the start of Season 3, we got the quests. It used to be that the "complete 2" quest gave gems instead of favor. The problem was that the game was bugged and gave you an infinite amount of quests to do, allowing to give a player an infinite amount of gems. Instead of leaving the gems in and fixing the bug, HiRez removed the gems AND fixed it to where you could only get 2(?) per week. Shortly after that, they brought back the daily log-in bonus, which was removed at the start of Season 3. If HiRez left the gems in, there would be no need for any gemstorms in the future because there would be a way to get free gems consistently.

Whenever these events start (I don't play with other people since no one I know plays it plus console) either my team all of randoms get put against a full clan team and obviously we get wiped, and then atleast 1 person will snap and become super them, so yeah I don't like these gem events, I'd rarther just buy a pack once a month if I really want some gems

what is your baka jg build? Completely like what items do you get if after you max out your build and only has starter items, what do you replace them with

Just make the Gem Storm event require gaining 40k gold total from any non MOTD modes. Rewards you for playing almost all game modes, all classes, nearly all gods, and rewards you for staying in a game. Also, considering people average less than 20k gold per game, still basically forces them to play 3 games.

I don't know if this would work. During my time playing Resident Evil 6, there was an option where you selected what were up to, examples: playing for fun, complete the story mode or getting medals. Maybe this would be good to aks what are up to when you log in, is it for fun or gems and pairing you with the ones who selected the same option as you...

I understand and agree with your point that you do get either people who haven't touched smite in a year, or a large group, but, the same goes for the other team. Personally I feel it evens out in the end, but I usually solo queue in several different game modes that aren't conquest.

The faceit thingy for gems is rather nice if you're an arena player. and they got some tournaments of joust and conqest too, it's not perfect but not that bad either :D

I play on console and honestly didnt find much of a difference in terms of matchups. The thing is though if you arent bothered by gems you just want a decent game you can always play ranked? But I can see how this can have a negative impact maybe 5 first wins over 5 days would be better. That way you can choose to play your game mode every day or play all of them, whatever you prefer.

what about a win week guage. basically over a week x amount of wins will correlate to a goal of say 20 wins gets 100 gems and basically the number of wins places you in a corresponding bracket. that way even if you don't hit 20 wins you still are in the lowest bracket of say 20 for 1-5 wins over the week

A solution to this problem is to make the gem event quests to be somthing like get 50 kills and/or assist or do 30k player damage like the Odyssey quests.

I did like 6 surveys and only 1 or 2 actually gave me gems. Most of them tell me I'm not who they want results from or whatever. Take like 6 surveys in 2 hours and get 45 gems because half of em don't apply to you

why don't they just go for quest similar to season ticket quests? e.g Deal X amount of damage to enemy gods, i find those best fitting because everyone will play their best to complete the quest as fast as possible and you would still make progress even through a loss.

I felt the frustration, too. I usually play different game modes like arena, clash or assault. But seriosly the Last days soloqueing weren't fun even without the regular server crashes. But as Dukesloth mentioned, where isn't any alternative. Hi Rez could switch the concept from getting 3 fwotd to 60 in game minutes, but every game mode except Arena kann be stalled nearly infintely. If you try things like kill a certain amount of minions or get XX Kills or Assists this might work better, even supports would hate the first one.

I'm not sure whether or not you mentioned this in the video but do you have a better way to get people to play the other gamemodes than free money for wins?

Have it like that one event that was glitched, have it where you can earn your gems in medium premade games that way no one cares.. Or have it where you have to play a certain amount of hours in the weekend and you earn the gems.

people are saying the surveys don't work, maybe for some they do, but I happen to be a console peasant so these gem events are like gods gift to me because the free gems are for pc/Mac users only.

Yeah, I don't do surveys. They are a waste of time and usually end up being scams. If anything free gem events are one of HiRez most decent ideas. Also the most it takes to complete the event is a couple hours and that's assuming you get people leaving or feeders or trolls. I can usually get all 3 wins down in about an hour.

free gems are free gems if you have a problem with the games you are getting make friends in the game and make a premade its not that hard, team comp is usually the most important aspect of a match other than skill level. for me the gem events make people play harder than normal and i find myself getting more challenging games and better teams, which makes for a fun experience all around. i solo que most of the time and i have 0 problem with any of the matches i get. a bad match is a bad match no 30 gems is going to make that much of a difference when it comes to losing.

why not have it to where you can either get 1 win in that game mode for the gems, or 2 loses in that game mode for the gems. in that case you wouldn't have to spend too much time in 1 game mode, but still have the chance to just have to play it once if you win.

How about a trial of champions sorta thing? Where once a month or bi monthly the there will be a week where if you win or do various things such as play three arena games or something over the course of the week you could get a free 50- to 100 gems over the whole week. so it takes one week, happenes frequently but not too much. and everybody can have fun because it might not take a lot of skill and could be well advertised.

Yes, i can find online oddjobs and sort, and yes i can get paid that way The problem is, not everyone has access to credit cards because most of the time their parents didn't allow them. As of now, i only have debit card, which can't be used for international transaction. But yeah, gem event sucks in some server because the only option is Arena, Joust, and Conquest

I see your point, and I definitely understand the trolls and tryhards all weekend because of the event but the Gems are FREE if anything you should have to work for them and work hard for them look at what you have to do in other FtP games that have a payable currency. In Warframe I have to Grind for Hours at a time to even get a chance to maybe trade for the gem equivalent in that game. Hi-res is being very nice that I only have to win 3 games to get some gems

ok this is interesting but another perspective is that for an Australian player on ps4 without these events I wouldn't ever be able to find a game of conquest. last Sunday starting 9pm on Australian servers I looked for 170 minutes before giving up without finding a game.

sir i agree and believe in what you are saying here. The events make me avoid the game, not play it. Lost 6 games in a row, including ASSAULT because of tryhards, with a group of 4... and one player was not the issue, it was people doing all in their power to win, reguardless of gameplay...

Free gems? Add a quest line that updates every month or so.. "Get 5 wins in any mode" "Get 10 kills" "Get 20 assists" "Get [insert role specific quest here] (For example, 5 kills as hunter, 5 CC as guardian ect.). It will help people get better at the game too. If people are rewarded well for playing well, people will learn how to play and actually be rewarded and have fun with it too. The whole "Win 3 games" is kind of messed up from the get go because of reasons you said, without a team in these events it's so difficult because you either face teams or have people who want to be carried for easy gems. Make it so individuals have to actually do something to get the reward. I'm not a good player, I know I'm not but I don't have any incentive to play well. I know I'm shit but I still have fun with it, maybe if there was some sort of reward or reason to play well, I'd actually play for more than an hour or 2 a session and I know many people feel like I do. Some of us just jump on for an hour or so, see the toxicity, it's not fun anymore so we lose any incentive to play then. At least with a decent quest system or unlockables, a lot of players will actually play and learn to play better because they know they are getting something out of playing well. I don't care if I win or lose, everything that you unlock you need to purchase, you get nothing for working hard at the game so what's the point in trying so hard if I'm having more fun running around doing my own thing and trying out what I feel like? Ohh wait, spam a god to rank 10 and get diamond.. That's they only thing you can unlock completely for free but that's not enough, that leads to people just maining a god, getting that god diamond then either quitting the game or just spamming that God in EVERY single game, regardless of team comp or game mode. I paid for the God Pack and honestly, wish I didn't. I don't play most of the Gods because I have absolutely no reason to..

Yeah I agree with this. The first 3 wins of the day thing is dumb even though I like multiple game modes. It just feels like work when you're trying to get gems. I was doing this to save up gems for the morrigan. I was so glad I bought the God pack instead. You don't even get refunded for gems for getting God pack for the gods you paid for.

I just played a Joust game to try and get my last first win... we were in the lead and we took the other team's phoenix. The other team took the bull demon and I told my teammate to try and contest but they didn't even TRY to contest. After that, the other team took out our tower and my teammates just decided to surrender as they were PARTIED together. Seriously, I was carrying my team and they had the audacity to outright surrender as we had pushed the other team up to their TITAN. Solo queuing sucks, but I need to do it since I have no one to play with... :\ But, I eventually won the Joust match I joined after.

During their lest Gem Event, I was playing a Match of Arena on Xbox and this Zeus had the most atrocious build I had seen for a mage. Keep in mind console doesn't get season 4 till next Monday, for first item he built Etheral Staff, Demonic Grip, Thoth, Telekhines, Tahuti and looked to be going to round it off with a Obsidian Shard. I don't know if he was just trying to troll or actually didn't know what he was doing, but man I was getting annoyed. I had played too many matches of Arena at that point and was getting a little frustrated with him.

why not make it just win any game mode 3 times ? easy or bring back that old gem for quest thing they did

you messed the solo queue team you get stuck with where everyone picks an assassin...

I feel like dukesloth can't process more than 1 thing at a time, like at 3:00 when he dropped the kill because he didn't use his maxed out 3. or not upgrading abilities then using them during a fight when you could be doing more but since you're tunnel visioned you don't realize

Great video, you are always so informative and usually have data to back up your opinion. I really enjoy your videos so thank you.

I just think you are mistaken what this mode is about. Is about feeding other modes rather than the most used one or two, doing so they reward the player.

I simply didn't do it this time because it was only 30 instead of 40/50. I know it's still "free gems", but it isn't enough for the time and stress it puts you through. Meanwhile, the max bonus for logging in is almost the same as two days of that torture...

I feel you man, I'm solo queue player most of the time. Actually got only 2 prices during 4 or 5 days and don't even bother anymore. Giveaways is trash, I never won anything.

Just so everyone knows you don't have to do the gem event just because you have the option to you can just buy gems if you really want them. Also personally I've had to play 3 to 4 games for each reward so far while solo or duo queueing at most and have had no problem with teammates I feel like everyone having problems is just in elo hell or my elo is just trash and I play way above it

Eh I mainly do Joust nowadays, Clash if I fancy a change but that's it. Not so difficult for me to play assault or something for the one extra win ;s "Free" gems aren't free as you're doing something for them, optionally.

i got once gems from survey... I did few surveys and didn't get any gems again...

Making that hot online $$$

There aren't really any surveys anymore. I've had two for over a week, neither I trust.

5 dollars an hour...that's a dream salary in colombia. Here we earn $1 dollar.

even though I think it's fine as it is personally, they can just make it win 3 games. if people dont have the time just play arena. Arena is made to be a short game mode. if someone doesn't have and dislikes arena, well in my perspective it's impossible to please everyone. I don't think playing arena for a couple days isn't going to ruin your life.

personally they should change the event from 3 first wins of the day to just play x amount of matches or get x amount of kills and assists.

FYI These surveys and other stuff only earn you gems if you play on PC or MAC...... They do not apply if you play on Console

tbh i like the gem storm event because i live in the middle of nowhere and i cant do any surveys or watch videos because there are never any available in my region, but i can definitely see your point. i cant be making that hot online $$$ that easily

I've never had a rough time on a gem storm day... just play arena as a support main, chances are the other team won't bring one...

It should be - Play 10 games over the 3 days during the weekend + monday and just have like 150 gems reward

It seems that more and more you have to separate good players from bad or new players. I think this type of event promotes exactly that, make the players leave their place of comfort, that is, their preferred mode. Making players leave their preferred game mode and try other modes, even if they run very badly. Sincerely, the video conveys much more your frustration with the event than promoting the idea that the theme of the video indicates.

Just make the task: get "insertanumber" of assists or kills. This way no trolls would affect you just your own playstyle.

I need help, I've done every smite trophy, except killing the gold fury b4 3mins, and fire giants b4 10:30, can someone please help me out, what is the best team comp now s4 is out?? Please help

They could give loyal players gems like, if you play for x hours a week(it has to be in lobby) then you can get some gems

I'd be surprised if any diamond ranked conquest player has trouble solo Qing or playing other modes than conquest.

how do you get your border and players moved???fyi talking about your hud

To be fair if a tryhard full premade gets to play against solo queue randoms, thats the problem of the matchmaking, not the gem event. Premades should be fighting roughly the same amount of premades. When a premade vs randoms match happens, matchmaking failed.

I don't agree with this video at all. lol you're playing smite and getting 30 free gems.....smh

This is nothing but truth. Not only the problem of teammates but also how the game lagged during the event. I agree :)

Guys, the free Gem Surveys actually work! You can get 30-60 gems per survey, lasting like 10-20 minutes! OP

The biggest problem this events have is the fact that they force you to win.I'll gladly play 3 or even more (like 5 or 6) games/different modes, but winning in this SMITE is as random as it gets (you know, because the matchmaking is s**t)

Hey Dukesloth, Love the vids. I've recently been watching your season 4 best item guides to prepare for its arrival on xbox. I have been watching and enjoying your videos for a lot longer however. I currently study at university and do not have a job. I would agree that the surveys are the best way to get gems. However, it states that it is for PC or mac users only. I don't feel comfortable with the other methods and your video on Faceit was pretty compelling not to waste my time on that either. In this scenario, these gem events are good for me although I am a regular player of smite, both solo and with a small group of friends. The thing I would like to ask you if it isn't too much trouble, is to briefly mention about xbox and ps4 since the player base may not be as big as on pc or mac but is definitely interested in hearing what you have to say. Thanks

yes took me 2 hours of trying to win arena match and i did my part just bad luck or teams of trash

I think they should make quests that would last the whole weekend like play 3 guardians and win 3 games not fwotd but you would have whole weekend to complete it

I can't really say i agree with you on this one. The current gem event isn't an alternative way to get gems, it's an extra way. Though it's true that you get players unfamiliar with other modes in your games, it does not have to be the end of the world. Match-making would be the bigger issue here. When I play the other modes, I can get some salty players as well, but I just mute them when they get out of hand. If you want to play that seriously, there is ranked. There is no sense in going ballistic in a casual game mode, even if your team-mate sucks. Try helping them, instead of raging them into a dc. Also, not every gamemode is doomed if a group of solo players go against a 5-man premade from the same clan. Just the other day, in an arena match I met one of these, and my team was like "gg, we are dead". But when we took teamfigth after teamfight, we actually got so pumped from winning against a premade, that the hype of it won us the game. Unless they are very well coordinated, they aren't any more of a threat that normal players. With that, I'm not going to neither like, nor dislike this video. I get what you are saying, but I don't share your view of every aspect on the subject. You are still a great content creator for the smite community, so keep on doing your thing, and you won't go wrong. Peace out.

There are problems with the free gems thingy in the smite games homepage for example I live in Latvia (nobody here probably doesn't even know where that is) and most of the surveys are blocked in Latvia if not all. Same goes for beermoney on reddit most of the offers are off limits to Latvia. So WHAT THE F DO WE NEED TO DO TO GET FREE GEMS?(I know VPN changers are a thing I'm using them quite often, doesn't change your credit cards number now does it?) Id like for some people to give me some sites which are in the "beermoney" category.

I don't mind the fact that we have to win 3 arena modes. The fafnir wonderland events where you had to reach far enough with certain pantheons was the worst, the team ups were totally garbage then because everyone wanted to reach certain point with that pantheon. You are also suggesting people to do scam with the survery systems, I'm fairly sure that's againsts the TOS of those sites to just put in tons of false information and such.

Yo DukeSloth!, if you ever get to make an announcer pack please make it with that voice: 1:56.

So many premades and tryhards last weekend. I lost like, 15/20 matches from Friday to Monday.

My weekend of Smite wasn't too bad. Actually less premades than before the event... Got my 1st win of the day in multiple modes quite quickly (Except I used Assault which is awful... So unbalanced it's unreal... Also, I swear my opponents get to choose their gods) Essentially, outside of the BS that is Assault, I quite enjoyed working on the Gem Storm event. It never became "Work".

Is it crazy to trade favor for gems and vise versa?

Surveys are unavailable to console players

The solution is very easy. Do not make it wins. They've done it before where the quest is simply objectives. Either gettings kills and assist, or taking down towers. Killing a certain amount of minions.

I think this kind of events are made mainly to test the servers in stress situations.

1, I disagree, it is free gems and not that hard to gain. I just spent 2 of the days playing with a friend and we got it fairly quickly. The other day i played games including a game of CQ and i got it without a hassle. 2, 5 dollars an hour is way too low in any first world country. It is closer to 10 probably. Work is also a wierd comparisson as that is something you do anyways. 3, I am very dissapointed that you used dollars as a EU youtuber, why not use Euro as that is also a widely used currency, and it is from where you live. I don't like all the catering to the US just because some are too stupid to know the EU even exists. I dislike the assumption that everyone you meet online is from the US. If a EU person asks if you want to play on reddit for example they automatically assume you play on NA, while most EU persons ask which server they play on first. Same with gem pricing math for the odyssey when poeple asked how much money they need for the T5, always dollars without asking where the OP that asks for the math is from. This goes beyond Smite ofc but just an example.

normies get out of my game modes reeeeeeee

I prefer referring friends if you have those cool friends on your friends list just tell them to download the game and refer them and play with them and thats an easy 200 gems