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welcome back to another day another drama, today we're discussing what happened between Taylor swift and Joe alwyn covering topics that include: why did they break up, does midnights seem different in hindsight, what's next for her career & personal life, and how we know this is a real thing & not some rumour.
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@Noitsbeckyy13
@Noitsbeckyy13 Год назад
I wouldn’t say I have a weird parasocial relationship with Taylor, or ever really took much interest in their relationship, but I feel surprisingly sad for them, I think it’s probably due to hearing just how much she loves/loved him in her songs, and it sounded like he was good for her. I hope they are both doing okay.
@unhealthyhomeostasis
@unhealthyhomeostasis Год назад
It's like after listening to her wishes and struggles in her relationships for 10+ years we finally thought she found the one
@sujal4078
@sujal4078 Год назад
Same here. I grew up listening to reputation and Lover, both albums lowkey shaped my idea of love. So this news made my stomach drop haha.
@cakecrumb095
@cakecrumb095 Год назад
I’m the exact same way. Her songs were full of happiness.
@hank5142
@hank5142 Год назад
Her songwriting abt their love life and him was so exaggerated. Not surprised they broke up.
@meganlynn83
@meganlynn83 Год назад
​@@hank5142 Exaggerated? How so? (Serious question. Not being rude.)
@kaitlynrain899
@kaitlynrain899 10 месяцев назад
“A lot of people think maybe she won’t write about it-“ *You’re Losing Me has busted down the door*
@KateCat420
@KateCat420 Месяц назад
1 day until "tortured poets department" releases - I'm sure we will get good ✨️tea✨️ in that album
@eva.kateee
@eva.kateee 29 дней назад
@@KateCat420 omg im also here before poets, im rewatching so i can really understand the songs
@sofemininewithgrace2198
@sofemininewithgrace2198 Год назад
It's not my relationship and not my break up but oh boy am I broken
@elephant1871
@elephant1871 Год назад
Fr
@stardustmelody2709
@stardustmelody2709 28 дней назад
I'm watching on Poets' release date. I needed a refresher on Joe to help me dissect some of the lyrics. I'm in love with this album right off the bat. I especially love I Can Do This With a Broken Heart. Also, I am surprised we got so much Matty material. Good! Bury that jackass, Tay!
@marianletterio
@marianletterio Год назад
I always thought Sweet Nothing was a strange song to include in Midnights, as it feels as a bit disconnected to the rest of the album. But now I think she might have included it because she knew that this was the last song they would write together, and I find that idea a bit heartbreaking :( I hope they are both ok
@eliortega9796
@eliortega9796 Год назад
stopppp im crying
@BrookeDoesScience
@BrookeDoesScience Год назад
I really didn’t like sweet nothing. Beautiful song, but the meaning … a sweet nothing is something you don’t put thought and energy into. I don’t find that to be nice at all. Where’s the effort? Where’s the care for the individual?
@marianletterio
@marianletterio Год назад
@Brooke Does Science According to the oxford dictionary, the expression "sweet nothings" means "words of affection exchanged by lovers"
@BrookeDoesScience
@BrookeDoesScience Год назад
@@marianletteriotrue, but look at the example of a sweet nothing in the song: On the way home, I wrote a poem, you said *what a mind*, this happens all the time. Is it praise? Yes. Is it deep? No. If you look at examples of sweet nothings, they are quick little comments that truly aren’t deep. “You smell nice” “I love you” “That dress is nice”. It’s all surface level. And I suppose you could argue that I love you is deep, but my husband and I say it in passing. When we provide words of affirmation, we state why we love or why we felt appreciated. I don’t find sweet nothings to be a good thing. The song is also melancholic which has an unexplained undertone of sadness.
@marianletterio
@marianletterio Год назад
@@BrookeDoesScience yes, i see what you mean. it does make me sad too, especially the bridge :(
@reginanewport-so3du
@reginanewport-so3du 6 месяцев назад
Me watching this again during the Travis relationship and hearing you say Taylor needs someone who has a similarly powerful existence in this world. Who doesn't need her. And now we have superstar football player! Which is seriously the most surreal thing to me because I live near Kansas City, lol.
@lizzylouisewoo
@lizzylouisewoo 4 месяца назад
And his personality reminds me more of her than Joe did. No knock to Joe, just that compatibility is important.
@indierock79
@indierock79 3 месяца назад
I said the same exact thing out loud to myself
@xqueenfrostine
@xqueenfrostine Год назад
I was bummed but not devastated when the news broke. While I agree that Joe is as dull as a Ken doll as a public figure (maybe he’s more interesting at home! We’ll never know), he seemed like he was a great partner for her and she was in a pretty great place creatively when they were together. He’s the only boyfriend she’s ever had that she seems to have a healthy, loving relationship with and I’m sad for her that it’s over. That said, I’m not surprised that he isn’t her forever person. With Joe being so private, I always wondered if it was sustainable for him to be the boyfriend of one of the most famous women in the world. He seems like the type of guy who probably wants a normal home life with a wife and kids, and it’s unclear that Taylor will ever want to slow down long enough to make that happen. I wouldn’t be surprised if the pandemic helped prolong their relationship, giving them the time and space to be domestic but now that Taylor’s back in touring mode, it forced them to to take a look at whether this relationship worked for what Taylor and Joe want from their futures.
@rockthecasbahs
@rockthecasbahs Год назад
This is the best take I've seen on the whole situation.
@gurleenkaur5331
@gurleenkaur5331 Год назад
Hence midnight rain.... I think we got it all wrong It was never about Hiddleston or Lautner. I think it was about Joe.
@BrunetteGiant
@BrunetteGiant Год назад
@@gurleenkaur5331 shittttttt
@gurleenkaur5331
@gurleenkaur5331 Год назад
@@BrunetteGiant just listen to midnights album again Especially maroon, labyrinth, bigger than the whole sky, dear reader, midnight rain, sweet nothings. She basically told that the relationship was over. And that one line, "it's been 2190 days of our love blackout, the system's breaking down." 2190 days is equal to 6 years. That is why this album midnights, was so weird, confusing, melancholy and beautiful. And in Labyrinth she says, "I will be getting over you my whole life. You know how scared I am of elevators, if it rises too fast, It can't last" There's just so much stuff, that didn't make sense.
@renshin5671
@renshin5671 Год назад
and bejeweled also mention about how she feels about the relationship which kept her low key but she is a diamond and will always bedazzled in the public.
@coryharbour57
@coryharbour57 11 месяцев назад
Watching this after You’re Losing Me came out so I was shook when you called her a phoenix rising from the ashes!
@carolinamansur113
@carolinamansur113 Месяц назад
I'm watching it in 2024, didn't even realize it was before You're Losing Me was out. Wow.
@nodreamisbig
@nodreamisbig Год назад
im so glad you explained everything so respectfully instead of saying things like "im devastated i deny believing" or stuff like that. this entire video is so well interpreted and respectful. thank you so much. as long as taylor is comfortable we should respect her decisions no matter whom she wants or not wants to be with💛
@raulrodriguez-sn9zw
@raulrodriguez-sn9zw Год назад
Fr I saw some tiktok fans saying "let's all pretend we have dementia" like girl...
@zuzannakielar
@zuzannakielar Год назад
I understand that many people might feel like Joe was kind of boring, but I personally think that because he wasn't super famous or maybe even kind of "boring" their relationship was like a save haven for Taylor from all the media buzz, which i feel like is what a relationship should be at the end of the day.
@sujal4078
@sujal4078 Год назад
And honestly we barely knew anything about him to say that he was boring. He was just private.
@xqueenfrostine
@xqueenfrostine Год назад
Agreed! I liked their relationship, not because he was particularly interesting but because he seemed to make her happy. Their relationship seemed healthy and it seemed to have her in a good place creatively. What more could I want for our girl?
@nishthagupta1357
@nishthagupta1357 Год назад
Exactly
@shilohgoes5544
@shilohgoes5544 Год назад
For some people, that’s what they need. Some people want other things. Perhaps Taylor has decided she wants to really try the “being single” thing (she’s never really done it) and perhaps she’ll find someone who gives her the warmth and comfort on top of the passion and understanding of her world that she (might be) seeking. Sometimes you truly love someone but it still doesn’t work out.
@zuzannakielar
@zuzannakielar Год назад
@@shilohgoes5544 I agree
@madelinecheinz
@madelinecheinz Год назад
Let’s not forget The Way I Loved You. She’s always romanticized the turmoil of relationships over comfort and familiarity.
@numberoneflop
@numberoneflop Год назад
I feel like we should be allowed to speculate about things like this. People act like Taylor is some innocent who can’t handle a little bit of gossip. She’s dealt with it for years, and she knows that people are going to talk about the break up. It rubs me the wrong way when people act like they’re Taylor’s personal protector, when in the end, they are celebrities, not our friends. This is coming from a HUGE swiftie of many years. I appreciate how candid and reasonable Zach talks about everything pop culture.
@antoniaruth3781
@antoniaruth3781 Год назад
You are so right. Especially since Taylor, while keeping her relationship private from the paps, has not kept it private from her fans at all. The songs and also Miss Americana have given us ideas and glimpses so of course we are invested. A little bit of speculation is perfectly fine, obsessing over this is not.
@regeneratedwitch
@regeneratedwitch Год назад
You can speculate about anything you like although there are some things that do not need to be speculated. I wish this wasn't true since I felt this relationship was healthy for both parties but it's her private life, it didn't come out of her so I know it's legit. Rumors fly and unlike debunking songs, this drama isn't funny to me.
@ArgoBargo
@ArgoBargo Год назад
She’s also stated before how the constant pressing on her love life makes her uncomfortable
@brennathecatlover4360
@brennathecatlover4360 Год назад
@@ArgoBargo but she makes her songs about like every relationship tho
@misssy6414
@misssy6414 Год назад
@@ArgoBargo she was more talking about the media and when the focus on her relationships and love life start getting misogynistic, she gets messy all the time and drops hints for her fans, she even encourages the talk sometimes, so as long as we stay respectful and don’t go completely into conspiracy land i think she’s fine with it.
@deltacat27
@deltacat27 Год назад
i agree that this was DEFINITELY forshadowed on midnights... especially dear reader. "a house not a home, all alone cause nobody's there" has never made sense to me & i think everyone needed to perform some serious mental gymnastics to make that song fit the story that they were still together. it's all so much clearer now.
@wolfkriszta
@wolfkriszta Год назад
"Never take advice from someone who's falling apart" 😭 Maybe it represents, that she knows she is famous for her love songs for Joe but they are "unrelevant" now, as they were breaking up.
@nishthagupta1357
@nishthagupta1357 Год назад
Ikr, its all so much clearer now 😭
@nishthagupta1357
@nishthagupta1357 Год назад
​@@wolfkriszta omg 😭😭😭
@beatrizgomes4094
@beatrizgomes4094 Год назад
Yes! When Zach was talking about the hints throughout Midnights, I was surprised he didn’t mention Dear Reader… I actually thought they were endgame, but still… from the first time I heard that song, I just found it so sad, and dark, and lonely, and to close the record in a such a note… I don’t know, it seemed off for me, but I simply thought that it’s normal that a relationship, as good as it can be, doesn’t solve all of your problems and fears But the break up really puts it in another perspective
@rrodz1447
@rrodz1447 Год назад
My mom told me this was coming back when she heard Snow on the Beach, she was like “as ephemeral and impermanent as snow on the beach?” And I was like MOM NO, but she was right 😅
@sacredsunflower8930
@sacredsunflower8930 Год назад
Staahhhp omg 😭
@shilohgoes5544
@shilohgoes5544 Год назад
Damn
@oswald3845
@oswald3845 Год назад
I think she knows
@bakersuniverse
@bakersuniverse Год назад
Her mind
@megmarch6814
@megmarch6814 Год назад
she is a genius
@nishthagupta1357
@nishthagupta1357 Год назад
I heard from Bejewelled in Midnights, "I made you my world, have you heard, I can reclaim the land" "And I miss you, but I miss sparkling" ""When I meet the band, they ask 'do you have a man?' I can still say I dont remember" All these really confirm it together lol. I'm so sad 😭😭😭
@thekidnextdoor1099
@thekidnextdoor1099 Год назад
Reading Bejewlled lyrics with Joe in mind is something else. Mind-blowing really.
@nishthagupta1357
@nishthagupta1357 Год назад
​@@thekidnextdoor1099 ikr exactly really😭 its so sad really..
@MoneyBagsDaGoat919
@MoneyBagsDaGoat919 Год назад
And what band could she be referring to ..The 1975, perhaps? 😉
@nvmme9462
@nvmme9462 7 месяцев назад
@@MoneyBagsDaGoat919omg the foreshadowing
@MiniKitty27
@MiniKitty27 Год назад
knowing that you and your partner are at two different places in a relationship and are no longer compatible because of that is incredibly healthy. This is Taylor's longest and probably healthiest relationship she's been in and I'm having a hard time imagining that they split anything but amicably tbh. i'm definitely excited to see what comes next even if it isn't Speak Now TV
@LeahJo488
@LeahJo488 Год назад
My daughter is 25 and last June she was diagnosed with breast cancer. She went through chemo, a double mastectomy, and is going in tomorrow for a hysterectomy. We too did a GoFundMe and it was incredibly helpful. I wasn't able to send much because we are still going through treatments ourselves but I wanted to help. ❤❤❤
@theswiftologist
@theswiftologist Год назад
Thank you so much Leah ♥️ sending much love and positivity your way x
@fabianadickson9748
@fabianadickson9748 Год назад
I think she has been trying to slowly tell us too in the Tour. The change to The 1 instead of Invisible Strings, the Lover house burning down, in LWYMD Lover, Folklore and Evermore being in cages during the performance was just so significant which are albums for him/written with him! I think all the other songs that she could have potentially written for him are taking a new shape to her, like Lover I have a feeling she is now singing that to us.
@danrodriguez6158
@danrodriguez6158 Год назад
This makes her opening so much more valid cuz than the “it’s you and me, that’s my whole world” is her referring to her fans and her
@anisanurraudah8383
@anisanurraudah8383 Год назад
It makes no sense with the tour visual tho. It was planned months prior, unless Taylor has been feeling her relationship went stale around midnights era then it makes sense. I do agree with the 1 tho.
@addictedtowonwoo4ever
@addictedtowonwoo4ever Год назад
Or she just self sabotage herself
@bluestrangler0447
@bluestrangler0447 Год назад
This is the part of the fandom that needs to be more prevalent. A calm, educated look into the events and how they’ll affect Taylor in the future. Keep doing your work!!!
@saracarrera8894
@saracarrera8894 15 дней назад
Seeing this after TTPD is something, but hearing you say "relationship autopsy" and her using the term post-mortem in how did it end is WILD
@spookey2004
@spookey2004 Год назад
Honestly I think the next few years are gonna be a rough time to be a Swiftie, with Joe gone I think the “serial dater” label is probably gonna make a comeback and with her kind of in her second world domination era in a time where whatever is popular becomes hated and considered cringe pretty quickly, I think people are gonna get burnt out on her being inescapable and people are gonna get sick of her being everywhere. I also think if she becomes a billionaire (which let’s face it, she likely will) that will probably also cause some tension and will probably get her an increase in haters.
@ilyesnoah782
@ilyesnoah782 Год назад
So true I think Taylor Swift reached a level in her life where she isn't classic swift anymore that we used and grow up entertaining with her and the proof are her rerecording Albums I mean they are great production and extra loved from her but I don't know how to describe it I really love her relationship with joe I was counting years for her weeding I'm sad her songs and uplifting songs helped me a lot in my life and I just wanna thank both of them for that
@tjc4085
@tjc4085 Год назад
We’ll power through this guys. There’s more of us and I truly think the swifties hold all the power this time around.
@healthycathy9782
@healthycathy9782 Год назад
You were right!
@Ana-yh8ek
@Ana-yh8ek Год назад
When you said that "question" isn't a song that someone in a happy relationship writes, I FELT SO VALIDATED! I've been saying that for months now!!! Her relationship with Harry was so long ago, she was wondering how it would be inside, with someone else, C'MON PEOPLE!!
@katythomason213
@katythomason213 Год назад
@@accessiblealchemy23she did say she wrote these songs over the course of her life, so it’s definitely possible that it could be recent or from years ago (such as with harry). i assumed it was written years ago but this is an interesting perspective to view it from!
@EmmaDaisy
@EmmaDaisy Год назад
Why do people think ? is about HS?
@mirauperenko6186
@mirauperenko6186 Год назад
@@katythomason213 she didn’t say that. She said it was about different moments in her life, but the songs themselves are definitely new
@redwineandagingerale
@redwineandagingerale Год назад
​@@EmmaDaisy the "I remember" in the beginning is from out of the woods which is about harry
@davisfinney7526
@davisfinney7526 Год назад
After hearing the news, all I could think of is how much hits different could be about this... Just the line "it hits different cause it's you" seems, to me, so close to what she would feel with Joe. This is the longest relationship she's ever had and she has been in love with him in a way that she, seemingly, hasn't been before.
@Razbies
@Razbies Год назад
As a person with no swiftie friends, I'm really glad I found your channel :)
@abbiemendiola3400
@abbiemendiola3400 6 месяцев назад
Me too ❤
@AMoniqueOcampo
@AMoniqueOcampo Год назад
Part of me is still in denial and doesn't want this to be true. Another part of me is wondering what the heck happened. Then, of course, I'm wondering what the heck is gonna happen going forward. Mostly, I hope that Taylor is okay.
@hank5142
@hank5142 Год назад
The relationship wasn't serving her no more. Simple as that.
@vvieites001
@vvieites001 Год назад
@@hank5142 or him…
@hank5142
@hank5142 Год назад
@@vvieites001 it seems to me, joe wanted more commitment from her but she clearly doesn't want to settle down. She chose her career over their relationship. Which is good. She's thinking abt what she wants and focusing more on herself.
@ark2550
@ark2550 Год назад
​@@hank5142duh, they're both having their OWN ways of being busy as a normal person, it only depends on persons, don't make that kind of conclusion like you're an expert of a love story, of a both famous human beings
@hank5142
@hank5142 Год назад
@@ark2550 my conclusions? Those conclusions you're referring to are facts. And why are you so challenged on this? Am i attacking you? You need to calm down.
@stardustmelody2709
@stardustmelody2709 28 дней назад
I'm rewatching this on the day of Tortured Poets release and I can't help notice how wrong we were thinking Joe wanted to get married. It sounds like it was the other way around.
@kb-dc5hf
@kb-dc5hf Год назад
I'm not sure what to believe,all these love songs about and with Joe,it doesn't sound like a relationship that's easy to walk away from,and she doesn't seem upset on tour when singing about him,and he posted like a month ago at Taylor's party and a photo of Meredith. But all these tabloids saying they're broken up and idk😭if it is true I feel so sad for Taylor because it really seemed like she saw a future with Joe,like marriage and kids and everything,it's sad
@marcorubboli9415
@marcorubboli9415 Год назад
Well but... live performances are part of her job at the end of the day. Especially when you sing the same song over and over again on tour, I don't expect her to think about the people she wrote the songs about everytime she sings them. The songs are written in order to be relatable for other people as well, and it would be unprofessional of her to bawl her eyes out singing Lover for example
@awoosh13
@awoosh13 Год назад
Sometimes you may love someone, but it’s not enough. Especially with the level of fame and career Taylor is at, it’s difficult for anyone. Love isn’t enough to make a relationship survive sometimes.
@cornelia0
@cornelia0 Год назад
Because she already mourned the relationship a long time ago. The breakup was probably brewing since last year if you take Midnights as their breakup album.
@Maya-si9vx
@Maya-si9vx Год назад
For some of us, this video is a 40 minute therapy session on how to deal with this breakup. Super well done video, Swiftologist! Didn’t know I needed this video ❤️
@tylertyler3214
@tylertyler3214 Год назад
Now that we know her and joe had problems in their relationship, I’m wondering if some of the folklore and evermore stuff as well was about them. Maybe their relationship has been rocky for a while. I also just considered how when she met joe she was cancelled, possibly considering not coming back to music, and yes she went on tour early on in the relationship, but then came back, and they’ve been in hiding and covid isolation for years, and now she is back on tour and back on top. Her situation has changed so much throughout the relationship
@vvieites001
@vvieites001 Год назад
Im thinking of hoax now 😢
@bluebie017
@bluebie017 Год назад
@@vvieites001 I literally always thought hoax was about them, I feared they had really called it quits when I first heard it (it’s so sad!) 😢 now we know she was kind of role playing the breakup, trying to brace herself for the real one.💔
@laraallison1392
@laraallison1392 Год назад
I know "my tears ricochet" ist supposed to be about the music she lost due to scooter and scott, but honestly I have always thought, it had two different meanings. One, about her music, second about Joe.
@ketelynlynnjonsen3271
@ketelynlynnjonsen3271 Год назад
we also have no idea when/if they were having problems in the relationship tho since nothing has been addressed by any official sources. ofc there are a ton of articles on it but i find it kind of weird that the information came from an “anonymous source” and all the tabloids are going with it i guess. i would be shocked if she did write and release songs about their relationship problems while they were still together tho, so i kinda don’t think anything on evermore or folklore would be abt him
@taiy5296
@taiy5296 Год назад
Invisible string she sings about something that wrapped all of her mistakes in barbed wire (and we all know invisible string is for Joe) and in tolerate it she sings about "where is the man who'd throw blankets over my barbed wire?" I always thought the song was about Joe because of that but the "you are older and wiser" always maked me think twice... Now I'm pretty sure
@madwoman_at.thelakes
@madwoman_at.thelakes Год назад
Thank you so much for this, it has really put my heart and mind at ease. Honestly, when I saw the reports last night, I felt physically ill. I know they're celebrities and their relationship is none of our business, but the joy and pain she so expertly transmits through her music are felt so deeply by her fans, that we easily create our own emotions around those relationships. We love Taylor and want her to be happy, and thinking she had finally found her fairytale love story after so many years of pain brought us joy. Your video has brought me back to reality, you made many points about PR moves and strategy that my logical brain was thinking as well, but you brought up possible relationship issues that I had never considered, I just assumed they were still in their Lavender Haze, with babies to come post-tour. I had honestly thought that she had, with Joe's help, matured out of her need for drama and constant passion (golden love as opposed to red), but maybe craving a bit of chaos is just innately tied to her creativity. I'm thrilled that she is getting a "second chance" at meteoric success; I just hope she doesn't wake up in a decade or two and regret not making more space for a personal life while she was chasing her fame. I feel like Joe may have filled a similar role to TL, and I don't want them to be another Back to December situation. But, it is what it is, and your clear-headed analysis has put me in a more accepting place with this whole scenario, so thank you.
@nishthagupta1357
@nishthagupta1357 Год назад
Same I felt physical pain & depression like someone died and ended omg
@kateswift13
@kateswift13 Год назад
He was sunshine, she was midnight rain!!! In regards to your point about drama and passion, my idea is that wanting that is kind of just part of the popstar/rockstar psyche, and that to be fit to be a popstar and to want that, you also inherently need that drama (she knows she could never give him peace - it’s not what she was meant to do). And I think this is very similar to the Taylor Lautner thing, but there’s no way they would’ve lasted anyway.
@Maya-si9vx
@Maya-si9vx Год назад
Wow you captured this so well. Thanks for your comment!
@caroschmaro445
@caroschmaro445 Год назад
I also think that it’s really evident in more obvious ways on Midnights too. Going along with realizing she doesn’t have to end her career after 30, which was the main message of the song, she sprinkles in stuff like “And when I meet the band They ask, "Do you have a man?" I can still say, "I don't remember" Familiarity breeds contempt Don't put me in the basement When I want the penthouse of your heart”. When I heard that the first time, I started speculating.
@gurleenkaur5331
@gurleenkaur5331 Год назад
Same But I chose to avoid it Because she said it's about various times in her life. You're on your own kid also makes sense now. I never understood why she would write that song when she's in a happy relationship. Midnights sounded too sad and complex for a woman in a healthy relationship. I was getting a weird vibe guess my hunch was right.
@torshamondal8983
@torshamondal8983 Год назад
Same also "Baby Boy I think I have been a little to kind". I felt she was singing this to Joe
@jessie6600
@jessie6600 Год назад
Dude totally! I just skipped over that line cuz I was like “I dunno 🤷🏼‍♀️ I guess it’s metaphorical?”
@kateswift13
@kateswift13 Год назад
I think she said at one point that Bejeweled was her telling herself she could still do pop, meaning it would be from 2022 Taylor’s pov. Also, this reminds me of the original gorgeous lyrics - “I’ve got a boyfriend/… I haven’t seen him in a couple of months.” And this was right before she got into her relationship with Joe. I really hope she lets herself be single for a while after this, I think she’ll become even more of a powerhouse honestly.
@gurleenkaur5331
@gurleenkaur5331 Год назад
@@jessie6600 it's been 2190 days of our love black out, the system's breaking down. (2190 days equals 6 years) I'm sure they broke up before but the news is coming out now.
@vitoriakreutzwerle
@vitoriakreutzwerle Год назад
I cannot explain how much this affected me… I just hope she’s ok, really. She deserves all the happiness in the world and I just feel so sick with the things people are saying online, the internet is so so cruel.
@nishthagupta1357
@nishthagupta1357 Год назад
It made me mental ill
@thevilkids
@thevilkids Год назад
Girl mind yo bussines.
@Entyipo
@Entyipo Год назад
What are people saying?
@mstrmren
@mstrmren Год назад
CNN reported "A source close to Taylor confirmed the news to CNN saying “Taylor and Joe broke up a few weeks ago. They simply grew apart and plan to remain friends.” which pretty much confirms that they ended their relationship on good terms. It just makes me happy to hear that everything seems to be fine.
@Gwenybhar
@Gwenybhar 7 месяцев назад
"Is there the possibility for a late hot girl summer or early hot girl autumn? Very possibly" - well that has turned into a resounding yes with all her recent NFL fun and girl nights supporting Sophie Turner.
@cuber3603
@cuber3603 Год назад
If she dates Pete Davidson I swear to god
@katebretusch3752
@katebretusch3752 Год назад
🤣
@tammycombs167
@tammycombs167 Год назад
😂😂
@nishthagupta1357
@nishthagupta1357 Год назад
Lol😭😂
@katelynm.9510
@katelynm.9510 Год назад
Your comments about her mentioning Joe being morally superior to her in a lot of her songs kind of made it click for me. I think she chose this FOR that reason. I think she knows that she isn’t really wanting that fairy tale life anymore, she seems to have gotten to a point where she wants a giant career and that’s it. Maybe have some fun with casual relationships and that’s it. I think Joe probably wanted more. We see that her perspective on this has changed even since Lover where she wrote “he’d better lock it down or I won’t stick around”, wedding vow type lyrics in Lover the song, and “I’d marry you with paper rings.” Then on midnights it’s more “I don’t want to be a wife, I don’t want to be a traditional family person, I just wanna shine and sparkle.” I think her priorities changed. I kind of feel like Joe is probably more hurt than she is. She has become a business machine and that’s what she’s focused on now. Maybe she knows she isn’t as morally superior as him and she finally accepted that about herself. She’s the anti-hero. She doesn’t get attached anymore. It just goes to show we don’t really know our idols because this is a major flip from what she used to sing about. With all due respect to her because I love her, she seems to maybe have become more cold/detached/laser focused on one thing only: herself and her career. But ALL of that is okay as long as she’s happy with it. Long term committed love isn’t not for everyone and I guess she came to realize over time that it wasn’t for her. She thought she wanted a quiet life and a long-term relationship and she probably recently realized that she doesn’t anymore. I just hope that she remains happy and doesn’t one day look back when she is older and retired and feel that she has all this success but now she is alone. My husband and I have a beautiful relationship and her love songs about Joe really hit because of that and knowing how love like this feels… I couldn’t put a career over that. PERSONALLY. But like I said, it’s okay for her to make that choice for herself as it seems like that is what makes her happy and fulfilled. Only she knows the best choice for her. Then again, regular people like me and my husband don’t usually have to choose between our relationship and our career. I have no idea what it’s like to have a career as big as she does, I’m sure doing both is hard. She chose what she chose and that’s ultimately up to her. As for my reaction… as a hopeless romantic who is so moved by beautiful words, I am very sad. It hurts to know something she has made such art from and written so beautifully about can just fizzle out. I hope they are both doing okay. Joe seems like a wonderful and kind person. He taught Taylor that love is golden and taught her so much about herself. I hope no one is awful towards him. Swifties can be crazy lol Sorry for this long ass comment! Had a lot to say. 😅
@wolfkriszta
@wolfkriszta Год назад
I agree with you
@andreap3147
@andreap3147 Год назад
I agree with you. As a casual fan of hers, I find it sad. It seems like being a celebrity constantly chasing fame is really lonely and you will never be satisfied. But her choice in the end.
@brandiking2045
@brandiking2045 Год назад
As a married woman who met her husband around the time she met Joe, I’ve always related! What happened from “the Great War” to this?? I’m not sure how. There must’ve been some kind of big thing on one or both ends. I guess they thought it was the Great War, but it was really just a small battle and they lost the war :(
@henrywayne5724
@henrywayne5724 Год назад
Taylor is headed for world domination. A private life was good when she wasn't too popular during 2016 but now that she's at the top of her game, she wants to embrace it fully like the 1989 era.
@divasnow9498
@divasnow9498 Год назад
I don't think so 😕,he was with her when she had it all.
@mariamnoshi928
@mariamnoshi928 Год назад
I really hope this is a rumor. I can't imagine Taylor looking all happy and cheerful on the eras tour and it's just her putting on a brave face.
@lesliesalcedo2588
@lesliesalcedo2588 Год назад
you dont have to be completely heartbroken after a break up shes focused on her career and thriving
@urlocalfolklorian
@urlocalfolklorian Год назад
it’s official
@laraallison1392
@laraallison1392 Год назад
​@@urlocalfolklorian where did you find the official information ?
@urlocalfolklorian
@urlocalfolklorian Год назад
@@laraallison1392 welllll it’s pretty obvious bc of how the celebrity pr stuff is handling it..zach said it in the video. it’s like basically confirmed by people mag
@laraallison1392
@laraallison1392 Год назад
@@urlocalfolklorian oh man😕
@tanjaeisenberg
@tanjaeisenberg Год назад
I have to say, as someone who's also broken up with a long-term boyfriend (8 years) where it was rocky for a long time, it's not easy at all. It wrecked me with guilt and sadness for everything that could have been. It's still tough 10 years later. I don't think she's just fine just because she ended it. I even feel as though it can be harder for the one ending it because you have no-one to blame for it but yourself and you carry that guilt with you for a long time.
@isaacroot5459
@isaacroot5459 Год назад
Wow, Zac is so good at stringing together narratives about the texts that Taylor has provided and giving them to us. That section about how ‘peace’ might have been a portent for a rocky relationship was so insightful.
@tristannavarro1584
@tristannavarro1584 Год назад
I’m confused, but in the end it’s really none of my business as Taylor and Joe have been private about their personal lives for so long and I just want to respect that. In the end, as long as the Queen is happy, then I’m happy for her 🫶
@jonathanmichael99
@jonathanmichael99 Год назад
It's okay for people to add commentary on it though as Taylor has chosen to make it public knowledge for us through her music! It's kind of hard to ignore the situation when she made a whole album about him
@tristannavarro1584
@tristannavarro1584 Год назад
@@jonathanmichael99 technically she’s made two albums about him now
@lesliemcgee4759
@lesliemcgee4759 Год назад
She did have her publicist release it so she has had time to process this she let her publicist do this so her fans can process it so Taylor is private but her fans go through stuff with her and that is why she gave it
@hank5142
@hank5142 Год назад
Her songwriting abt him and their love life is so exaggerated. Not surprised they broke up.
@ark2550
@ark2550 Год назад
​@@hank5142bitter comment
@onkookietime
@onkookietime Год назад
I always thought midnights didn’t completely make sense and that’s why it didn’t click with me😭 but the pieces are starting to come together
@gurleenkaur5331
@gurleenkaur5331 Год назад
Exactly
@spilledsalt4862
@spilledsalt4862 Год назад
Praying for Sarah. Hoping for a recovery. 🙏
@andrewgarfieldswife8734
@andrewgarfieldswife8734 Год назад
PLEASE DO A MIDNIGHTS REVISITED!! I’m insanely stupid when it comes to Taylor theories so I need it 😭😭
@kellye.5678
@kellye.5678 Год назад
I cannot get too into this. It feels like I’m going through a breakup. I’m confused, sad and shocked. They’ve been together for a long time and yeah I know they’ve had their issues but they seemed to happy together. I was elated for her. Taylor is such a romantic and I really thought Joe was end game for her. The Great War is one of my favorites off midnights and it really made me feel like they were solid.
@MrsShimmyOnDown
@MrsShimmyOnDown Год назад
Same.
@AndresAranaDemon
@AndresAranaDemon Год назад
Girl u need some therapy for personal dissording, and im not being rude.
@PoisonedApathy
@PoisonedApathy Год назад
You're such a breath of fresh air Zach. As an older fan, it's refreshing to see someone analizing the situation from a mature point of view, rather than just projecting or staying in denial. It's been almost 24hs and Taylor's team has not shut down the story. CNN just run it a few minutes ago. It's very much real. I agree with you. Joe probably gave Taylor the respite and intimacy that she probably needed after a very tumultous time in her life, but they never striked me as the perfect couple some younger fans made them out to be. Anyway, I hope they're both fine, and as you, I'm willing to see where this takes Taylor creatively. Thank you for your work.
@eschrad
@eschrad Год назад
💚 My heart goes out Sarah. A friend of mine had leukemia as a teenager and in their efforts to quickly treat her with radiation and chemo, it didn’t occur to anyone to freeze any of her eggs first. Her cancer returned in college and she beat it again. She got married and discovered she wouldn’t be able to have kids. They started looking at alternative options and had finally moved on to looking at adoption… and then discovered she had breast cancer. She underwent a double mastectomy and put their adoption plans on hold until she was in a remission window. But even the adoption road hasn’t been easy. My best wishes and hope for your friend that she is able to beat this and have a family of her own one day. -Erin
@shreyaathalye2069
@shreyaathalye2069 Год назад
My gosh, my heart goes out to your friend. I’m 18 and am battling lymphoma currently. It really does turn your world upside down :( I wish her well ❤
@stardustmelody2709
@stardustmelody2709 3 месяца назад
This is fun watching in Feb. 2024.
@GiGiMonster
@GiGiMonster Год назад
I think being an actor in Britain is much more respected and artistry-based than U.S. Hollywood's desire to be 'famous', so perhaps Joe isn't interested in the extroversion elements of the business.
@diaz9rox
@diaz9rox Год назад
It’s just so hard to imagine Taylor being the one to call it quits, with so many lyrics of her saying to him “I hope I never lose you”, “I really thought I lost you”, “I wake up screaming from dreaming one day I’ll watch as you’re leaving”, “I wanna brainwash you into loving me forever”, etc. but I can’t see him leaving - who could ever leave her darling?
@faithjezek6286
@faithjezek6286 Год назад
Exactly!! The love she feels for him has been so thoroughly laced in Reputation- Midnights.
@DoNotTestMe
@DoNotTestMe Год назад
I feel in hindsight that the anti hero lyric could be in reference to the fans/her career? Idk
@stephane1623
@stephane1623 Год назад
Listen to the song happiness from Evermore. It explains perfectly why she would call it quits.
@holaeedu
@holaeedu Год назад
you know, people change, feelings change, so I perfectly believe that she would call it quits, sometimes love is not enough and that's part of life
@krk.1999
@krk.1999 Год назад
@@DoNotTestMe waitttttttttttt this makes sense
@regresaperry
@regresaperry 9 месяцев назад
29:14 not you predicting "you’re losing me" you truly know taylor
@spilledsalt4862
@spilledsalt4862 Год назад
How does he put this whole video together in less than a day? The work ethic is unmatched.
@MegaBabro
@MegaBabro Год назад
Agree with you that Maroon is possibly about Joe Alwyn - the big thing for me was always that she samples King of My Heart at the beginning of Maroon. I never understood why she’d do that if the song was supposedly about Jake, as King of My Heart is so clearly about Joe. Also, let’s be honest, Jake never had any roommates. Loved this whole video!
@tanyachauha.n
@tanyachauha.n Год назад
And yet she smiles and plays lover , delicate, invisible string on tour like it'd all fine ???? I hope it's fake . I WILL NEVER BE READY FOR IT
@nishthagupta1357
@nishthagupta1357 Год назад
Ikr😭😭😭😭😭😭
@Jakilyn
@Jakilyn Год назад
I get the impression they've split a few times prior. And we never knew. I really wish the best for both of them!
@elizabethskywalker0621
@elizabethskywalker0621 2 месяца назад
Who is here 10 months later ready for the torture poets department
@Ruby_theswiftie13
@Ruby_theswiftie13 2 месяца назад
Me-he-he!
@jeffreymarra231
@jeffreymarra231 Год назад
Great point about Midnight Rain. It's also #6, 6 years. And in the Eras tour, she starts that song in particular with a very somber look on her face
@Netanyabee
@Netanyabee Год назад
I really feel Bejeweled describes the relationship breakdown with “familiarity breeds contempt so put me in the basement when I want the penthouse of your heart.” And needing to be a diamond that’s going to shine “I can reclaim the land” and “I miss you, but I miss sparkling”
@megandelynn6114
@megandelynn6114 Год назад
Oh honey! I'm sorry you were treated so awful just for your opinion! Also so heartbreaking about Sarah & going to her gofundme now! Thanks for the video!
@katk8217
@katk8217 Год назад
It's so interesting to me how her breaking up with Joe actually makes a lot of the songs and lyrics on Midnights make way more sense now. I personally believe they've been on the rocks for a long time, or at least Taylor has been over it for a long time. I don't think Taylor one day switched on a dime and thought "okay we're finished" after a 6 year relationship. These things usually happen after a lengthy period of deliberation. Taylor is seemingly in quite a different headspace than she was 6 years ago when she needed that comfort and support from Joe to hold onto.
@loganr7108
@loganr7108 Год назад
listening to midnights through this lens is so different. i agree that maroon definitely reminds me of joe. i’ve thought since day one that “the one i was dancing with in new york, no shoes” reminded me of cornelia street. it actually makes a lot of sense. also, another lyric that sticks out is “i want to brainwash you into loving me forever.” maybe she saw the breakup coming.
@PranyaGulati
@PranyaGulati Год назад
you genuinely saved my life (in jest) i do wonder about the "love is dead" sentiment at large - i don't think it's an overstatement to claim that taylor is the most prolific and successful chronicler of the stages of romantic love, i don't think anyone has done it as exhaustively as her, and the general sum of her observations and lessons about romance is tantamount to philosophical text. when someone like that (bread and butter made from break up songs) has their most significant break up yet, i think it invites a cultural re-examining of romantic monogamous love at large quite naturally, more than in a typical parasocial attachment to a celeb. here im about to go a bit kooky but i think someone like her, who loves with so much potency and approaches people with such intrigue, i don't think there's ever going to be a single person to love forever, she just has too much of it to offer. i really earnestly hope she writes her memoirs in plain prose one day because a break up without villains is more interesting than having an asshole break your heart through lies and manipulation. i think what lies ahead is her fortune and artistic legacy increasing manifold, but i do hope it doesn't come at the cost of her feeling like a real human. truly wouldn't be surprised if she opts out à la the lakes at some point.
@mr.icecream7880
@mr.icecream7880 Год назад
Exactly that’s what’s the most shocking
@pera8439
@pera8439 Год назад
Can I just say. Ever since I heard Midnights, I thought Dear Reader was a weirdly miserable song for someone who was supposedly in a very happy place (not just in her relationship, in life in general). Like?? Just look at these lyrics: "If you knew where I was walking To a house, not a home, all alone 'cause nobody's there Where I pace in my pen and My friends found friends who care No one sees when you lose When you're playing solitaire". Come on. In my opinion it's the most personal song on this album and it's INSANE how basically no one is talking about it. So yea. 🫥
@margheggl
@margheggl Год назад
Honestly hearing you talking about Sarah and your voice trembling made me tear up a little. Wish the best for her 💚
@PlantFriendDownTheStreet
@PlantFriendDownTheStreet 2 месяца назад
I think you should revisit these opinions in a post TTPD world. We are about to have so much more information.
@theswiftologist
@theswiftologist 2 месяца назад
TRUST
@alizalieb3962
@alizalieb3962 Месяц назад
@@theswiftologist I love that you are still replying to comments a year later 😄
@theresaweaselinthehallway87-6
@theresaweaselinthehallway87-6 29 дней назад
@@theswiftologistwatching this before TTPD, would love a revisit after we’ve all sat with the album for a couple weeks
@beccac6812
@beccac6812 Год назад
I feel so terrible for her and what this must feel like : a breakup is hard , being in the middle of a HUGE tour and going through this heartbreak: I do think she will write some amazing things this tour but I hope she’s ok 😢
@Calebweasley
@Calebweasley Год назад
You should feel bad for both of them not just Taylor.
@beccac6812
@beccac6812 Год назад
@@Calebweasley when people tell you how to feel though 😆 I just don’t follow him or know anything about him I’ve been a swiftie for almost 20 years
@KateCat420
@KateCat420 11 месяцев назад
​@@Calebweasley I wish him the best, but Taylor is the one whose music I've been listening too for years, so obviously I'm focusing on her. It's not cause I'm unsympathetic to Joe it's just how emotions work. Get over it.
@britneyanddiannebeals-gigu7225
It's funny you mention Sweet Nothing because I remember on my first listen of Midnights I felt like it sounded very sad, the second verse in particular. I also think the line "Does it ever miss Wicklow sometimes?" seems to be a nostalgic longing for their time spent together out of the public eye. I also think it's interesting, looking back, how she uses "wanted" in past tense. However this also seems like a song they could have written years ago based on the first line "a pebble we picked up last July" so who knows! Definitely looking at Midnights differently now though!
@enas7547
@enas7547 Год назад
Guys, realising midnight rain could be about Joe is making me tear up right now. What’s wrong with me. ;-;
@Mariam-cn6cm
@Mariam-cn6cm Год назад
I am looking forward to hearing your thoughts. I’m so so devastated!
@rachelflora8511
@rachelflora8511 8 месяцев назад
insane that you said "rising from the ashes like a Phoenix" before You're Losing Me came out. Psychic.
@swiftlyabbyy
@swiftlyabbyy Год назад
i hope sarah gets better, truly thinking of her. great video, great closing remark, completely agree.
@neeliknowsnothing
@neeliknowsnothing Год назад
28:17 peace was a song where this stuck out the most to me. Even the way she songs "give you my wild, give you a child....is it be enough?" as if she's willing to give him anything just to get him to stay, or "your integrity makes me feel small"
@FellDownTheCornHole
@FellDownTheCornHole Год назад
Iv never heard someone in a good and healthy relationship who is constantly revisiting past ones. Also Taylor (No offense) has been describing her relationship with Joe in the same exact way for the past 6 years, I’m not saying that relationship with no noticeable shift or change are doomed to end but I am saying that to some ppl that could get boring. The most excitement in her and joes relationship just based off what she’s written is weirdly tied to how she chooses to present it to the media and how their image looks.
@nishthagupta1357
@nishthagupta1357 Год назад
Exactly yes same..
@burgundy16
@burgundy16 Год назад
girl, i just felt like i had a breakup :/
@nishthagupta1357
@nishthagupta1357 Год назад
Sameee😭 i cried like that & was heartbroken like that too😭
@mossryan4027
@mossryan4027 Год назад
Watching this after the Speak Now TV announcement and the Matty Healy situation is very funny
@camilla9196
@camilla9196 Год назад
You are so good at what you do- to have a video up within 24 hours of the chaos and for it to be this thorough and thought through us incredible. I have sent this to my parents who are now curious about everything.
@everythinghorror1201
@everythinghorror1201 Год назад
Honestly some SWIFTIES are just to sensitive and just arn’t ready for the tea your ready to spill, I was there in the Twitter space honestly it’s just crazy and uncalled for the way people were reacting and what they were saying was absolutely appalling, but you’re unique to other swifties your ready to say what no one else is and that’s what I respect about you and your channel.
@eliabrown8435
@eliabrown8435 5 месяцев назад
Zach, love your analysis and thoughts on Joever. I am confused though on your remark about Taylor not being ready to commit. I think very clearly even before "You're Losing Me" she wrote so prolifically about thinking that Joe was the one. I mean "New Year's Day" with "I stay, when you're lost and I'm scared and you're turning away" "I want your midnights" "please don't ever become a stranger" then the entirety of "Lover" I like shiny things but I'd marry you with paper rings", "Cornelia Street" I hope I never lose you, hope this never ends, I'd never walk cornelia street again. Ladies and Gentlemen will you please stand, with every guitar string star on my hand, I take this magnetic firce of a man to be my Lover" Then in Folklore "All along there was some invisible string tying you to me" and "Peace" Give you the silence that only comes when two people understand each other; give you my wild, give a child" It feels blatantly obvious to me that Taylor was ready to commit wholeheartedly to Joe and for whatever reason, he wouldn't and she got tired of waiting and started to realize that he wasn't perfect and wouldn't give her what she wanted and also held her back creatively, so she left. I don't think that she was necessarily wanting to be single or go back into dating, but it was something that was a byproduct of the situation and after being heartbroken she adapted to the situation and decided to embrace single girl Tay again, but no I think she wanted to marry him, and he didn't want her lifestyle and refused to commit. Which I think was finally supported by "You're Losing Me" and the whole "I wouldn't marry me either" I think Taylor lived in denial and told herself she didn't actually care about marriage (Lavendar Haze) when she very much did and it was her way of coping
@elizzybec
@elizzybec Месяц назад
For a minute, I thought I had written this! It feels like it came out of my own brain lol. I feel the exact same way. The problem is, I never liked Joe and caught the vibe that it was actually a very up and down relationship during Evermore and Folklore.
@nicodemusfleur
@nicodemusfleur Год назад
All I can say (with all due respect to the pain that I'm sure they felt ending such a longterm relationship) is that Red is her best breakup album currently, and I am VERY curious to see what music/album comes out of this very-different breakup of a very-different relationship. Through this six years, she definitely proved that she can write some of her best work while she's happy -- but "All Too Well" still reigns supreme after more than a decade in most people's ranking for a reason, and sometimes that kind of genius can only be brought forward through real heartbreak. Whatever she comes up with out of this experience, I will certainly be ready to listen!
@pedroweh7130
@pedroweh7130 Год назад
The parasocial thing is so true. You can be “upset” about this situation but there are limits. People think that they are friends with Taylor and literally crying about this isn’t weird or shameful. I like Joe Alwyn as an actor (although the irish accent in Conversation with Friends sucks) and I think he is a nice person, but we are here for Taylor, so in the end of the day none of this matter and I am very excited for how the new record will sound like. She will not stop performing the songs (and they will not lose the effect on us), so swifities have to stop being weird.
@leslieb537
@leslieb537 2 месяца назад
Wild watching this today in the Tayvis era.
@Demi.d3mi
@Demi.d3mi Год назад
I think she isn’t meant to get married, she has her priorities on her career only. She chooses it over and over again. The timing of the break up makes it kind of obvious, this is the busiest she has been in a while.
@mahmuttuncer4238
@mahmuttuncer4238 Год назад
everytime her career was at its peak her love life was crushing and everytime her love life was at its peak her career was crushing or wasn’t going the way she wanted it to
@shelbyeverett3096
@shelbyeverett3096 29 дней назад
I am revisiting all your Joever content in preparation for tomorrow. I also really hope that your friend Sarah is doing well. 💚
@Liv-hx9xx
@Liv-hx9xx Год назад
💚 sending my wishes to Sarah. My dad had a 10% chance of surviving when he was diagnosed 20 years ago but he beat it because good people helped in so many ways so I hope my small donation can help Sarah, sending love and prayers.
@thegreatcatsbee
@thegreatcatsbee Год назад
In light of this, I feel like “Dear Reader” makes so much more sense, especially since it’s sort of the true final song of Midnights and not “Mastermind.” I don’t know if the timeline matches up, but it makes me wonder if she wrote it when the end of the relationship was in sight.
@EtreBritta93
@EtreBritta93 6 месяцев назад
“…I wouldn’t marry me either, a pathological people pleaser” (he didn’t want to marry her.
@alainamolnar2199
@alainamolnar2199 Год назад
I saw her in Atlanta night one, and during the lover era she gave a lil speech about how she wants all of the songs she is going to sing tonight to be about us, our experiences, and the memories we are making together on the tour!!! 💗🥺 (((instead of the man/relationship that songs was inspired by))) i loved that she said that
@elenagerhardy2636
@elenagerhardy2636 Год назад
I like the point you raised about how Taylor has often written about Joe portraying him as morally superior- I’d never really put that together before. The through line I’ve always noticed in her love songs for Joe is that they’ve always been tinged with more platonic forms of love, like brotherly love or best friend love.. the portrayal of lust hasn’t felt 100% authentic since Rep tbh. I’d always looked the other way on this and given Toe the benefit of the doubt because I’ve been so happy to see Taylor in a solid, long term relationship with someone who has appeared to appreciate Taylor for who she is (‘you say “what a mind”’). I honestly thought Toe might have been Taylor’s endgame, given how difficult and rare it must be for Taylor to find someone who can genuinely handle being in a relationship with her for any substantial length of time. But the signs have been right there in the songs all along in hindsight.
@AB-ku8du
@AB-ku8du Год назад
Wait How does taylor preceding joe being morally superior to her relate to feeling like the lust aspect of that relationships seeming inauthentic?
@elenagerhardy2636
@elenagerhardy2636 Год назад
@@AB-ku8du it doesn’t relate at all. I’ve just grouped a number of ways that Joe has been described in Taylor’s songs to add to Zack’s original point.
@lilymoon2829
@lilymoon2829 Год назад
20:10 do you not think, if the breakup really happened “a few weeks ago” aka before the tour began, that she wouldn’t have put Invisible String in the setlist in the first place? I dunno, I’m trying to sit back, avoid jumping to conclusions and just examine my own complex feelings and parasocial ties to the situation but it alljust feels so off to me…
@MrsShimmyOnDown
@MrsShimmyOnDown Год назад
Thought this too - why the switch then, in the first place.
@nishthagupta1357
@nishthagupta1357 Год назад
She just wants to perform the song with the thought of them still being in love right now
@lilmisslizzyc
@lilmisslizzyc Год назад
When you mentioned Afterglow, it reminded me of why I don’t enjoy listening to that song anymore. It’s a beautiful song, but it had me sobbing like a toddler in my room bc of my (now ex) boyfriend who basically gaslit me into thinking I was too needy for wanting more than one text a day while he lived across the country. I wonder if Taylor feels like she gaslit herself (I don’t want to assume he gaslit her, but that’s not a possibility we can rule out yet). Also this news definitely makes me see Midnight Rain as possibly being about him. I really thought it was Back to December pt 2 😭🤡
@nikkilong7143
@nikkilong7143 Год назад
Oh my god relistening to midnights after knowing this is crazy!!!! So many songs sound so different (lavender haze, YOYOK, midnight rain, bejeweled, labyrinth, bigger than the whole sky, hits different)
@Rosie-rx5ry
@Rosie-rx5ry Год назад
Now I'm wondering if Bejeweled is about Joe. She has been very private since meeting him. And she probably did miss the attention or shine. Definitely you need to revisit midnights for us. I just think Joe was the best match for her based on how she has been happy these past couple of years. Boredom isn't a good reason to break up with someone
@MsLeanneFraser
@MsLeanneFraser Год назад
Re a
@elenagerhardy2636
@elenagerhardy2636 Год назад
This is the commentary we all needed- Tysm for putting this together so fast. Your ability to see through the emotion and drama, and come up with very sharp, coherent takes is one of the things that sets you apart from other Swiftie creators. I’m still gagged at 1300 people on the premiere, I couldn’t keep up with reading comments 🤩
@kayleighjones2284
@kayleighjones2284 Год назад
The way I literally did not believe a single word of it until I saw you had posted this
@kateswift13
@kateswift13 Год назад
33:11 The more i think about this the more i convince myself that midnight rain is about joe… I doubt that they were broken up when the song was written but she def could’ve been manifesting something writing it before they called it quits? “He wanted a bride, I was making my own name” and “All they keep asking me is if I’m gonna be your bride”… we prob should’ve seen this coming lol, especially after peace with “I could never give you peace” and “It’s like i’m wasting your honor”
@amybryant6668
@amybryant6668 Год назад
All the prayers, love, hope, & hugs to Sarah in the world! 🙏❤️
@amybryant6668
@amybryant6668 Год назад
💚💚💚💚💚💚🙏
@WaltMossberg
@WaltMossberg Год назад
Just helped out Sarah. Thanks for alerting us to someone in need. 💚
@sydveon6812
@sydveon6812 Год назад
gonna watch this live when its over. praying its all a very big rumor that everyones getting caught up in, like usual. but now that you’re talking about it, i’m getting even more scared.
@lydiawood2458
@lydiawood2458 7 месяцев назад
Ok are YOU a mastermind?? Im watching this on October 19th and you literally predicted EVERYTHING? Im amazed by you. Im binging all your videos currently. Im obsessed with you 🫶🏻
@ShakespearesCat
@ShakespearesCat 6 месяцев назад
unlike most swifties, I hope we never get any song about joe. the older I get the more aware I become that all we have is a very onesided perspective about everything that she writes about. her feelings about situations are the only thing she is not an unreliable narrator about. she's also excellent storyteller who made her fans demonize the guy she herself cheated on despite fully admitting it in the song title itself too. and with the exception of harry styles and maybe mayer her exes have NO way to give their side publicly at all, and imo not even HS has the starpower to compare at this point. her word is gospel and I hope she has matured enough to not be petty anymore. not looking forward to that old dance of bratty interviews that she later says she regrets doing but then immediately pulls another stunt just like it soon after.
@vu8680
@vu8680 5 месяцев назад
Agreed! But you can clearly see that she's on the same path. Giving clues about when you're losing me was released was deliberately to let swifties know that it's ok to attack him. She's rubbing her new relationships in his face, nothing she hasn't done before. These guys can't ever speak out and stand up for themselves. I'm sick of her demonising every guy she's ever been with. She can just look back in hindsight and appreciate everything they've shared and the time spent.
@elizzybec
@elizzybec Месяц назад
@@vu8680 nobody wants to attack anyone, sit down. It's clear you just hate her. It's HER music, she gets to sing about what SHE wants to. sorry.
@VLoLa9119
@VLoLa9119 Год назад
I think she will definitly write about it. The real question is: is she going to release what she writes?
@capydara8502
@capydara8502 Год назад
now this is a good question
@kck.Schrodinger13
@kck.Schrodinger13 Год назад
I don't think she's someone who withholds her feelings or writings. If she thinks the song is good, she is definitely gonna release it.
@korkinalina
@korkinalina Год назад
For sure
@VLoLa9119
@VLoLa9119 Год назад
@@kck.Schrodinger13 if she didn't have to do the rereleases we never would have gotten the "vault" tracks. That kind of falsifies your statement. If she wants to withhold something, she can and she will.
@inaju
@inaju Год назад
@@VLoLa9119 she withheld the vault tracks cuz she felt like they weren't good enough for the albums, not because she felt too emotional abt them
@emilysanders1855
@emilysanders1855 Год назад
Can't believe we won't get any more "Can Joe Alwyn fight?" comments from swifties every time Taylor appears.
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