So disappointed it had to end like this 

Bruce is a true asset to this industry/Hobby. I am sure many of us would support

If they can’t show you any rules, screw ‘em Bruce. Go fly anyway.

I agree with you except for 1 thing... If he only got a few dozen people to email council, I doubt enough money would flow in to "Start" a glow engine, let alone pay for him to go somewhere.

​@@lectro88 sending $20 on GoFundMe is much faster and easier than writing a letter. Just sayin

same

and same as well.

Same

The next question is: How are you gonna leave this unfit world? With a bang or a whimper?

@@scaleworksRC Good luck making a bang. Unless you mean literally lmao.

It's a question also of Jurisdiction. The corporate world has no jurisdiction over a living man. Anyone hiring you, surrenders that jurisdiction via your registration, but keep it, and they can't feed Justitia and steal your liberty and money.

Not really relevant to my comment, but, uh... ok. @@G-ra-ha-m

Any updates on this?

I was just about to say the same thing, then I noticed so many people have said it already.

Also, there is a legitimate question on the morality of attempting to manipulate representatives of an area you don't live in. All said, unless I'm individually asked by someone in an area; I don't get involved. I say this as someone who is heavily involved in my area and has been a campaign manager three times (all wins) because we needed to kick out the people who were in because they were pulling this sort of nonsense. (Generally worse sorts of things as well.)

Why do you hate to say it? Politicians SHOULDN'T care about messages from people outside their voting district. Can you imagine how abused a system would be if they listened to outsiders?

​@@SirSpence99 "... on the morality of attempting to manipulate representatives of an area you don't live in." While outsider's wishes should not override those who live there, there are no problems getting involved. As I travel around my part of NZ and read council regulations on drones, it seems a bit of copy-paste-modify goes on with these policies. So, a win (even less of a loss) in one jurisdiction could have a wider effect. That aside, pushing back on encroachments to our freedoms is part of a wider battle against our transformation into a permission-first society. Can I even say that? Better ask mummy council.

Cheer up and ignore them.

He's been telling everyone else to do that for years.

Lawsuit ? Do you live in Nz?

Exactly. Just go fly. You looked up the rules and they confirmed there is none like that.

I agree, screw them. I do the same. I am 77 been flying since 21 Now my club wants me to do a exam to prove I can fly safely. I told them where to put that exam. Now they threatened to ban me. Well I mow the Grass at the club and maintain the equipment like the big diesel mower and generators, only one that can do it for free, just dare ban me, haha

Bruce doesn't have the dollars nor would there be an attorney that will fight for Bruce if he got arrested for noncompliance.

Hope you get better. I'm 31 with similar problems and am almost unable to function. I've found that physical therapy and excersise is the only way to reduce back/nerve pain. Hope you get help and are able to fly again!

Yup, that would be my response.

Yes and just stop antagonizing them publicly. Just go fly where you want and to hell with the authorities.

@@SimpleDecay hasn't done anything wrong, or the police would be talking to him.

Do not comply there are no council laws being broken anyways and the council has no authority to makes laws and fines.

We can't legally fly either. We just do it anyway. Nothing we can do for NZ from the US. You're absolutely dead wrong implying we don't care. Adding blame to your viewers will just turn them away. I get your peeved and beside yourself. Just fly.

Pretty sure he is saying the council don't care. Not the overseas flyers.

​@@stuartsmith945I mean he presumably asked for people to email the council in one of his recent past videos. The hobby already being kinda dead to me for what I think are similar reasons means I rarely catch the content anymore so I am somewhat out of the loop. He does say in this video he expected more support which I'm not saying I would or wouldn't have with more details but it is a bit unwise to place blame on viewers for the very reason that the OP mentions. I'm not even sure it is my place to be emailing elected officials in whole other nations to complain let aline expect them to take my non citizen opinion into account, additionally I'm so disappointed in the current state of politics I don't even contact my own representatives anymore as nothing I say will mean a thing as I cannot realistically challenge their likelihood of re-election.

Unfortunately model flying is such a niche hobby, that almost no one outside the hobby will have any idea of what thw council does.

It can and it does. Councillors only care about who is handing them backhanders. They most most people will keep voting for them no matter what.

Yes; 100% (In Australia we have had corrupt councils be investigated). This council can do nothing to Bruce and I hope he turns it around on them and gets legal advice.@@ptonpc

@@ptonpchow do they enforce rules that don’t exist?

This is New Zealand Tim, we all have the same rules and its not an issue for the rest of us... My club is 50 minutes drive away, and we are on council land will full support - they even cut our outfield. I can even walk down to my local park and happily have a fly (as many of us do). He has created this issue all for himself. Tokoroa is a tiny town and has probably the clearest drone/rc policy of any council in the country for an obvious reason.

That would never happen, very few locals support Bruce’s nonsense.

​@@defyentwhat a terrible comment to make to someone that is already clearly distressed.

@@wtb567 Terrible or not, it's objectively true. He's obnoxious, and then plays the victim when people don't support him. He's a pity addict who's playing off of your emotions and lack of knowledge around his history.

sorry to say but he is correct.@@wtb567

There is no such thing as a drone license in Nz

Amen - Our politicians are walking all over us. Albo in Australia spends more time out of the country than in it and hides from the public after the majority of people disagree with his policies

Only because we have let then take control.

@@WayneCook306 I absolutely agree!

Where do we even start? I've been trying to spread word with informational video links and stuff but what do we do? Band together with our arms linked? I don't know enough people that care enough to try to make a difference.

@@228supercow I hear ya brother. We can fill a football stadium to standing room only but cant get that many people to fight for their rights or even their children's wellbeing.

Deportation to Australia

​@@josh3771Transported to the West Island 😂.

I'm not a lawyer, fwiw Their drone policy: "Offenders can be trespassed and/or prosecuted under the Public Places Bylaw 2017 and/or the Property, Nuisance and Maintenance Bylaw 2017." Public Places Bylaw is probably now the 2022 version. Apart from trespass and a flying ban, enforcement comes from the Local Government Act 2002. Let's see... actually pretty limited. Unlikely they could legally seize the drone, trespass, and a ban looks to be the worst of it, though maybe a fine to remedy damage/nuisance.

Agree 100%! My MAC threw me under the bus a couple of years ago for exercising my right to medical autonomy. So, I ditched both the club and the MAAA. I fly from private properties with the owner's permission.

Yes, that sounds great but in reality, for most, it's not the flying alone it's the clubmen ship and comradery that keeps the hobby engaging. Flying alone is really boring as batshit. Been there done that . And any farmer or property owner worth their salt would probably steer clear because of possible legal and financial problems. Its all great till it turns to shite.

@@ScatManAust 90% of the clubs in NZ are on farm land without issues...

Yes , till something goes wrong. Thats not to say it will, just saying when things come down to money, property damage, personal injury, personal and professional friendships, things can get ugly. Like the old saying there is no friends in business @@mikewilson6019

Parliament allows powers for local councils in Local Government Act 2002. This particular Local council has the Public Places Bylaw 2022 that does specifically mention operating according to their drone policy. Not unusual to do this - esp for a situation they might want to revisit soon, delegate to their bureaucracy or keep out of the full glare of the proper democratic process.

he is operating to their drone policy - the published one. The one they're enforcing upon him has not been published and is unable to be seen by anyone. He even did a video where he went to the front desk of the council and the staff there were unable to find what they had referred to in their own letter...@@eturnerx

Remember he is flying at a full sized airfield. He can easily meet the conditions - he is just being stubborn and using this for clicks.

Could get a UK one it's free.

@@womble321 Good call! Flyer ID, free and good for 5 years.

Good call! Flyer ID: free and good for 5 years.

Before you potentially abuse me, don't you think you should hear my side of the story? I have an equally debilitating nerve disorder as Parkinson's, but you don't know about that okay-about a month ago. Bruce told one of the other very beloved guys at the field a very serious pack of lies that resulted in me getting a very abusive phone call that put me in a very bad place for the better part of three days. The beloved person rang me the next day and apologised emphatically, but the damage had been done, and from that four weeks ago, Bruce destroyed the atmosphere at the field because of what he did. He was told he needed to call me to sort it out and instead of giving me a ring to apologise. His response to the people that spoke to him was his typical narcissistic brushoff, and not so pleasant comments so I waited for three weeks. I tried to call him. He wouldn't take my calls, so I put a takedown request in. Any Normal person at that point would have contacted me and said "Hey dude, WTF?" And we could have sorted it there and then and I would've removed the takedown request straight away, but Bruce being Bruce decided the best course of action was not to talk to me because that meant he had to eat humble pie, instead, he came here, and he started to make things worse by dragging my name through the dirt even more, so I put a second takedown request in, but not before I had tried to ring him again and again, he would not answer his phone. I have since removed the second takedown request because I don't want to see his channel shutdown. However, do you think Bruce gives a flying fuck about anybody else's health and the damage he does to other people when he lies like he does? You guys just see what he wants you to see you. Don't see the damage He does off camera, you're not here in NZ dealing with the fallout. Every time he has a totally unnecessary argument with one of the local authorities over something he's usually usually brought on himself just like he brought these takedown requests on himself.. he could have totally avoided all of this drama, but because he thrives on drama, he decided to make it worse. In this case Bruce is suffering karma as a result of his own actions, I don't wish any harm on him. I was the first person he told about his Parkinsons because most likely he knew I would understand better than most because I've had my own very debilitating nerve disorder for a lot longer than he's had Parkinsons I've spent numerous weeks in hospital hooked up to a Academy infusion because of stress from things like reading comments like yours for example, anything that triggers the nervous system (as Bruce has found out with Parkinson's) put your body in seven kinds of hell. Bruce to this day still has not apologised for the damage. He did a month ago, however I'm told he's going to talk to me because he knows he needs to, and I'm not going to be the one who has his channel shutdown. He could have prevented all of this, but instead, he chose to make drama out of everything and make it worse because drama gets clicks. so I would appreciate it if you would spend a bit more time reading the comments where I've already gone over this 1000 times with people and explained to them the whole story like I have to you now. I didn't deserve the treatment I got from Bruce, i've also told him repeatedly for the last eight years and it's been repeated to him on a weekly basis by all the other guys at the field. He is not to video me under any circumstances unless I give him my express permission at the time and this is all because of my nerve disorder I don't want him sticking the camera in my face. I don't want him making me looking like an idiot. I don't want to be in his videos. I go to the field to hang out with the guys not to be cannon fodder for his channel. Bruce has never respected anybody's requests for privacy and I've let it go for eight years even though it's put me through hell a few times having to deal with the stress of him and his camera not to mention the stress of all the other drama he's caused which has ended up affecting all of us, but all you hear is Bruce crying Wolf and complaining, how nobody locally helps him. Maybe we would if he had a bit more respect for all of us.

Personal beef? Did Bruce step on your dick? Historically, "professional victims" have been those who fight tyranny...for themselves yes, but also to the benefit of the compliant and complacent sheep plodding along to the slaughterhouse. Bruce is an educator, an entertaining and knowledgeable one...who does his research (sharing it unselfishly). Sadly, it's mostly taken for granted...or dismissed/ignored by the good (compliant) sheep distracted with their pursuit of "wealth," comfort, convenience, and entertainment. Bruce's battle is a microcosm of the Western world's fall...it's descent into the intended serfdom of the "conspiracy theory" Great Reset. This isn't the first great reset in history... Bruce is a proverbial "canary in the coal mine," a harbinger of the "frog in the kettle" deception most live. That (from the beginning) deception? It's a 3D evil...Distract, Divert, DIVIDE (and conquer); to which we (seem addicted to) succumb. What a blessing COVID has been...revealing the "success" of that deception. There's an old hymn, "Trust and Obey"...the Wisdom and Truth of "fearing" God alone. Instead, we have vividly seen that admonition applied to government alone. Don't surrender Bruce...it's always a remnant of "professional victims" who've borne the burden of fighting tyranny; keeping the hope of freedom and liberty alive. To your detractors, "Good luck to you mate. Take care."

His wings have not been clipped by anyone other than himself.

@@defyent 100% the rest of us are happily flying at clubs and parks in NZ.

How the hell is he responsible for the council creating fake rules?!

@@airadaimagery692"How am I responsible" is the real question. You must have missed something.

@@SomeGuyInSandy no body ever said anything about you being responsible. My question had nothing to do with you, it refers to what your talking about. Forget I even approached you, your obviously ate up with self centered issues.

@@airadaimagery692 Hahaha, Listen to you... You simping for mr Simpson and all offended by my original comment! Now you're calling an end because you didn't like me correcting your ignorant response... Laughable.

Sorry, I don't want to be a part of any organization that is utterly lacking in pragmatism and so obsessed with compliance at all costs -- even at the cost of safety.