Solid Axle swap the easy way!! S10 Rock Lander Dana 44 axle swap

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In todays video we cut all the independent front suspension out of my 2001 Chevy S10 in preparation for the SAS. We are installing the High pinion dana 44 out of a 1976 F150 fully built, out of ‪@DirtLifestyle‬ TJ. We got this thing fully on its own weight so we can make some important decisions. We still have a ton of work to do but we are getting closer. I am of course using ‪@barnes4wd‬ parts for this build as always. See you next week!
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@chuckyehle-ch7nx Год назад

He is a neighbor of mine and really neat to see all of his projects as the come in. I haven't had the opportunity to meet him yet but it's fun to see his projects roll in. Great work.

@old_con Год назад

I didn’t realise so much went into the positioning of the axle and associated links ! Well done with all the calculations and angle setting. 👍🏽😎

@MuddyBeards4X4 Год назад

Thanks, yea…link suspension is more complicated than leaf springs, but when set up correctly it is far superior to leafs.

@BigBluePile Год назад

I watch you before I watch Nate! Keep up the great work, thanks for sharing! Oh and stay healthy my man, these videos aren't as important as your health! We'll understand if your content is delayed!!!

@MuddyBeards4X4 Год назад

Thanks I appreciate it. It isn’t necessarily the videos. I am trying to get this done for EJS which is 3 weeks away

@michaelhrgn Год назад

Iam running 5.5 rock kralwer triple rate jk springs on my s10 , they seam to hold the weight of the s10 really well , iam also using adjustable buckets. Makes fine tuning much easier

@MuddyBeards4X4 Год назад

Good to know, thanks 👍🏻

@angelmvniz Год назад

This gives me an idea of what I’m up against if I ever do a sas on my 03 xterra

@Fix_It_Again_Tony 9 месяцев назад

I'm doing a '11 Frontier now. Cutting the old stuff out was definitely the worst part.

@bonespur2728 Год назад

You are absolutely hammering this build out. Great job!

@MuddyBeards4X4 Год назад

Thanks 👊🏻

@robpedrow9293 Год назад

Watching this video series for inspiration and motivation. Wanting to do something very similar with a Nissan Frontier. Great work! Stay healthy!

@MuddyBeards4X4 Год назад

Nice, definitely build a frontier, they are very cool.

@overlandtowater Год назад

I know you're feeling about having a small, crowded shop/garage.... while doing the SAS on my suburban I often times thought dang I need a bigger shop almost as much as I thought man a lift would make this so much easier.

@PaulKaiser42 Год назад

I have watched you and Nate both build three and four link setups and still do not get it at all 😂😂😂

@messix7768 Год назад

i would lower the spring mount to closely duplicate the tj spring mount to axel set up. that #1 wont cost any extra, #2 not sure how the multi rate 6" spring would work with your intended ride height . 6"lift i think would be engineered to have a much higher ride height before bump. thanks for the great info and explanation on front geometry.

@dougsweldingfabrication953 9 месяцев назад

Damn.... I want to do this, but I don't have the experience. I need to just start it and follow some of your direction. Great job ! Fun to watch

@MuddyBeards4X4 9 месяцев назад

Thanks, it’s a ton of work… but it was worth it👊🏻

@savagereviews7212 Год назад

This build is so cool can't wait to see it finished

@MuddyBeards4X4 Год назад

Thanks 🤟🏻

@TB-zl6le Год назад

This is a build I’ve wanted to do for a while. Looking good!

@MuddyBeards4X4 Год назад

Thanks 👍🏻

@thousandoaksauto1696 Год назад

Great looking build seems well thought out! It should be very capable for what you want to do!!!

@MuddyBeards4X4 Год назад

Thanks 👊🏻

@chadmorrison_ Год назад

cut both coil buckets out and go to a cheaper 14" coilover so youre not pulling hair over spring rates. ride height, and have good and easy shock tuning. so much more simple of a setup

@scottadvevture2022 Год назад

looking good brother thanks for sharing your health is more important take care brother

@MuddyBeards4X4 Год назад

Thanks 👊🏻

@Kingston100LC Год назад

You make this easy! Great explanation too!!

@MuddyBeards4X4 Год назад

Thanks 👊🏻

@Jbmongold Год назад

killin it! Mega Rad Rig, can't wait to see the next vid!

@MuddyBeards4X4 Год назад

Thanks 👊🏻

@erichughes9098 Год назад

Thank you for your video Kelly 😎👍

@MuddyBeards4X4 Год назад

👍🏻

@caseywojciechowski2830 Год назад

Great job learned a ton from your content

@MuddyBeards4X4 Год назад

Thanks 👊🏻

@calebberglund53 Год назад

Looking good Kelly!

@MuddyBeards4X4 Год назад

Thanks👊🏻

@amorton94 Год назад

You should come do the same thing to my 88 S10 Blazer when you're done 😅

@vwclub3 Год назад

6-6.5 springs then just space them up from axle build the box up or Spacer ... Or get adjustable bump stops to space it up

@matthewschwartz6919 Год назад

Not sure if you're taking this into consideration but a longer spring of the same spring rate might not be the answer. With the axle at full bump, will the block height of a longer spring fit between the upper and lower spring mounts? I think this truck will be heavier than a TJ so a stiffer spring with the correct block height might be what you need instead.

@MuddyBeards4X4 Год назад

Yes, I think you might be correct. The s10 weights about 800lbs more than the tj, but the engines weights about the same, 4.0 being a little heavier. So I will try this and if it’s too soft, I might change to a zj spring which have a 24lb heavier spring rate than the tj.

@techniciantrar6923 Год назад

Lookin good. Hope you get to feeling better.

@MuddyBeards4X4 Год назад

Thanks 👍🏻

@Venom2U Год назад

5:16 A point of contention.... You don't "have" to use a Panhard bar. (its not a track bar.....) You could use one of the variations on a "watts link". And given your oil pan layout, engine mount set up, along with your steering geometry, you might want to consider a horizontal watts link.

@krisf8178 Год назад

Taller springs all the way!

@MuddyBeards4X4 Год назад

Yup, I will try that first, if they are too soft I can do zj springs which are slightly stiffer.

@legitdelirium3446 Год назад

If you cut 3" out of the towers and go for the larger springs you will be able to have more down travel. Build some sort of spring retainer for the axle and frame so it doesn't come loose at full droop

@MuddyBeards4X4 Год назад

👍🏻 the reason I like the metal cloak springs is even at full droop they never come loose, because of the upper soft spring rate.

@VintageOffroad 9 месяцев назад

Nice build so far, sir. Question for you. What TJ upper sprimg bucket did you use?

@MuddyBeards4X4 9 месяцев назад

Barnes4wd, it’s not a Tj bucket just a universal one.

@bryanmcentush4788 Год назад

I had recently swapped D35 for a D44 w/iron rock truss in the rear of my 04wj, the axle seems to be slamming into the transmission on the slip yoke side,,for the time being to get thought winter does anyone know the difference of adjustable length on the control arms????

@Gonecheenin Год назад

Consider ZJ front coils. They are identical dimensions to TJ coil's, but they have a higher spring rate for the heavier V8 chassis.

@MuddyBeards4X4 Год назад

Good to know, I don’t really want a higher spring rate necessarily, but definitely an option to look into

@cjg1482 Год назад

I did an ABS delete when I SAS’d my 4 runner.

@MuddyBeards4X4 Год назад

Same master cylinder I assume? With the abs out I now have room for the arb compressor and wiring stuff so it worked out. Just more work making brake lines.

@cjg1482 Год назад

@@MuddyBeards4X4, my year (2000), the abs pump was separate from the master cylinder (later years, it one unit). Yes, I’m using the stock master cylinder and it works great. The abs on it was not a good system. It rarely kicked in on road and kicked in offroad way too much. I also needed the space under the hood. I wanted it gone anyway.

@thegmanfromsf Год назад

Longer springs are better. Give you longer travel

@williamfrye9441 Год назад

Why don’t you get a set of ZJ 7 inch front springs? Same size as TJ coils and should be about what you want ride height wise.

@MuddyBeards4X4 Год назад

Yea, if the Tj springs are too soft I will try zj springs, they are 24lb heavier spring rate than the Tj ones.

@76CJ5JEEP 4 месяца назад

I'm doing a d44hp in my 02 tahoe. What did you end up going for spindles and hubs. Are you running ford knuckles and hubs and spindles. ? Or are you running chevy 6 lug wheel adapters

@MuddyBeards4X4 4 месяца назад

It’s all stock ford stuff with warn locking hubs. Mine is out of a 76 f150.

@anthonygendron9737 Год назад

Why didn’t you use a Johnny joint to improve the ride quality and not have the squeak noise?

@CadenceSparks-uc4wq Год назад

I would say put some ACOS Coil spacers in there and run the springs you have, then you have bump stops aswell

@forreststrong797 Год назад

If you re-install ABS and get to the bleeding stage and you can't get it to bleed that is normal sometimes when changing an ABS unit sometimes you need a special machine to push fluid through or theres a special procedure. I can't remember specifically for your vehicle but I've had troubles and have helped plenty of people that have had troubles bleeding a new ABS unit. I'd suggest deleting ABS then you don't have to mess with sensors and tone rings and stuff at the wheels with your new stuff. Ive deleted ABS on a few vehicles with not much trouble especially older vehicles. But, and this is a big but lol, if the ABS ties into other systems that require wheel speed and whatnot or theres features you want to keep or the computer needs then it can get troublesome and in that case I'd keep it and try to simplify and relocate things.

@MuddyBeards4X4 Год назад

The abs is out, no wheel speed sensors, so it would never work anyways. You need the gm or aftermarket scan tool to bleed the abs module. I worked as a tech for GM and replaced and bled plenty of them, they do suck.

@forreststrong797 Год назад

@@MuddyBeards4X4 awesome you shouldn't have too much trouble making new lines and getting it all fixed up. ABS takes up a lot of real-estate sometimes plus I've never liked ABS on a offroad oriented vehicle. I'm guessing your stock master cylinder is probably just fine for the size of calipers on the new axles so you probably won't have much trouble with anything unless you have to mess with the proportioning valve. Have you ever thought about doing hydroboost? It's probably unnecessary with your setup but I really like hydroboost and there's probably some off the shelf parts you could use from the vans.

@marknance1247 Год назад

What kind do you get to do an S10 I have a ZR2 2002

@MacsSpecialitiesMotorsports Год назад

Wow man, you making get progress and inspiring me to SAS my Liberty. I might have missed it but what are you doing for shock mounts for the front?

@MuddyBeards4X4 Год назад

Thanks, I think the Liberty is cool platform. I have a few different idea on shock mounts in the front, I haven’t decided 100% yet. I am finishing up the rear this weekend so I will deal with that after.

@MacsSpecialitiesMotorsports Год назад

@@MuddyBeards4X4 Nice. Looking forward to the next one!

@leviheintz5910 Год назад

Was this a 4x4 to start with? I am just trying to figure out a few things for my gmc Sonoma

@MuddyBeards4X4 Год назад

Yes, 4x4.

@930buku 2 месяца назад

What truck did you get the front differential from boss ?

@MuddyBeards4X4 2 месяца назад

Tha axle is originally out of a 1976 f150.

@JW-cn6op Год назад

Getting closer! Do you think the weight of that crew cab may be a bit much for the TJ springs?

@MuddyBeards4X4 Год назад

Thanks, good point, maybe. I ordered 6” springs. If I don’t like those or they are too soft I will try v8 zj springs maybe…

@JW-cn6op Год назад

If you have someone close by with the same lift spring on TJ ,maybe measure theirs and yours to compare the height of them and see what the difference is.That would give a good idea if they are overloaded.

@Hickeyjones Год назад

I’d switch to a JK front coil.

@bobsters1 Год назад

I think I would go longer springs. 6 inches even. In my mind that should give more coil to help it not come unseated when you flex and run longer shocks

@MuddyBeards4X4 Год назад

Yup, I am going to try 6” coils and lowering the tower 1.5” and see where I am at. If they end up too soft I can switch to zj springs which have a slightly higher spring rate.

@bobsters1 Год назад

@@MuddyBeards4X4 sounds like a good plan to me! I have a 80 series I recent did a reverse 4 link and 3 link on. I didn’t go coilovers like you eventually I will but it’s amazing what a difference it made already man.

@Andrew_Garcia1 6 месяцев назад

What do you recommend for caster angle?

@MuddyBeards4X4 6 месяцев назад

Whatever the manufacturer recommends, and if you are running a bigger tire you can always go a little higher to help drivability.

@rickynelson3222 4 месяца назад

Do you have a take out the cross member

@MuddyBeards4X4 4 месяца назад

Yes, I explain it and show it being cut out in the first minute of the video.

@bryantclaggett7703 3 месяца назад

What front coils are you running?

@bryantclaggett7703 3 месяца назад

I typed that in the middle of the video. And after I hit send you said what we're running too funny. Got. If you see this thanks you so much.

@cjg1482 Год назад

Longer coils will flex better that shorter ones.

@Bighorn_Rockcrawling Год назад

I have some 6” metal cloak dual rate coils that I’m getting rid of. Shoot me a message if you want them. I purchased them about 4-6 months ago

@Bighorn_Rockcrawling Год назад

Also just remembered they are for the rear of a tj. So kinda fat

@bradmiller2464 Год назад

I have 7.5 inch rubicon express springs you can have.

@MuddyBeards4X4 Год назад

Where are you located?

@bradmiller2464 Год назад

@@MuddyBeards4X4 Humboldt County California

@MuddyBeards4X4 Год назад

I appreciate the offer, I am a little too far away, to make it convenient, lol.

@matthew1992ya Год назад

Is there two different people on this channel

@kyhillbillys10 Год назад

You can't cut into the rear part of the fender without cutting into the cab.

@jadebrecks Год назад

If you feel like dog crap don't be afraid to post a video saying I feel like crap you will be a video delayed. We take sick days people should understand you do too.

@MuddyBeards4X4 Год назад

Thanks, it isn’t necessarily about the video, I am trying to get it done in 3 weeks for Easter Jeep Safari, so I can’t take sick days unless I am dying…