Solomonster On Why AEW Needs To Get Rid Of CM Punk 

There's still time for Rock to come back to promote XFL

I still got 1996 and 2001 over this year as far as eventful goes.

@@bunkhouse1996 I hope so.

How on Earth can you leave out Austin coming out of retirement for a match at WM?

@@exiaR2x78 yeah most definitely nothing cannot top the Vince McMahon scandal holy s*** that explains those releases he's been doing for the past 2 years is to pay those ladies and now Triple H and Stephanie got to clean up the mess that he made that's going to be a long time before WWE gets better

When did he say that where and when?

@@starbreaker269 The justification is comical.

While CM Punk didn’t start it, he continues to grovel on this drama and makes things worse.

Yeah I get CM Punk speaking the truth about the same time it was the one place at the wrong time while they had a damn good show it was ruined by what CM Punk said and that fight that happened too but now Tony Khan got to start fresh on aew it's going to be a tough road but I know they go pull through

It not over Cabana. It is over jealousy

@@morganjacob1195 is there to be jealous of Jesus Christ it's been over 10 years now they need to get over it and settled at differences

😆 Exact. Colt seems like a nice enough guy, but he is NOT a hill worth dying on. He’s a barely noticeable jobber now who was on a dying faction in the Dark Order. I saw him wrestle back in ROH. He was good…in his day. But those days are long over. You don’t mortgage the future of a promising company like AEW over someone that most fans barely know or care is there. The idea that this is all happening over a C-plus player is just baffling, and it’s why Tony Khan has to right this ship now. This nonsense has gone on long enough, and it has to stop.

I dunno, speaks more about wrestling fans and our priorities if anything :/

@@FF18Cloud Can't even disagree with you.

@@ExperienceEric like gillberg beating brood cristian for the light heavyweight title only to return years later to beat him again at hungry hungry hippos😂

@@DanielZ5 Or Al Snow wrestling Big Bossman in a cage match while dogs are banging each other at ringside

He’s a nobody

i would not be surprised if some of was coming from him, he has done that in the past even admit to giving info when he was almost done with wcw

@@redred222 and the bucks

It’s a work.

Why? They’ll hate it over in New York, triple H or not. I just doubt papa H would let them do whatever they want.

@@manwithoutmercy It does, clearly they can't keep their mouths shut and constantly tell their story to the dirtsheets

Hasn't Corny and Brian been talking about all this for the last year? In terms of the Bucks doing a lot of not great things in the back.

@@specter2k yep not the first story with them, FTR and Cody just to name two

When you find out this was all a work, will you respect him as an actor? I mean he has roles on 2 shows. Lol they say Eddie Kingston’s promos feel real.

@@starbreaker269I’ll answer your question with a question. Did you believe that Brodie beat Cody up so bad in their first match that Cody had to be stretchered out? If not then you believe that they write guys off with injury angles. Punk is an actor on 2 shows. Heels filmed episodes in July. This new arm injury could be another role. It takes time to read scripts, get in character etc. in the meantime other guys on their bloated roster can get much needed time. Think about it. Nakazawa is suspended. Had the Bucks and Kenny been suspended what good would he have been to the company? Same with 2 contracts Cutler. The entire Elite was suspended. It’s a clever ruse pal.

@@starbreaker269 but my theory on Cody aside from using AEW to get himself over was he left because Tony wouldn’t let him in on the ROH deal. When Tony bought it, it also gave him the rights to the All In footage. You know, the show that started all of this. Tony owns it. Cody does not. That was business. Maybe just maybe he wanted the EVPs to walk and they didn’t want to. He also wanted his Disney buddies to leave WWE when he did, but they stayed. A business decision. Hack theory, but makes more sense than a toxic locker room and all the other fake sources BS.

What about Hangman Adam Page, Young Bucks and Kenny Omega?

@@kylesantos8190 page had left the building already by the time of the media scrum

😂😂😂😂

Lol imagine the first kick wasn’t enough to kick down the door, so they kick the door two more times, while slapping their leg🤣 I just wish there was a recording of this while incident.

💯💯🤣🤣

@@GenGamesUniverse that sounds like an egotistical old man that thinks he’s way better than he really is. He wasn’t just sitting at home, he embarrassed himself pretending to be a ufc fighter & lost to a literal jobber in mike Jackson. Without the bucks he’s just sitting at home, WWE wasn’t begging him to come back, and he’d be known as the less good crybaby (Bret hart is better) lol

@@GenGamesUniverse So punk has no blame .....none?

@@reconjitz the elites as EVPs are a cancer on that locker room.

@@ODGtheToyman1974are you in the locker room to confirm that? I don’t disagree per se, no different than when dusty was the booker and he’d put him and his friends over etc. it’s wrestling it’s all fake bros. Punk is injury prone, shouldn’t of beat Moxley cause you’ve unintentionally derailed 2 pushes as cm punk got hurt.

@@madddoggnogood1491 Punk was definitely in the wrong for what he did. It’s just that in the grand scheme of things he is considered a worker…while the Young Bucks are considered executives. No one is coming out of this looking good…unless you’re Hangman “Cersei Lannister” Page. That guy evaded all consequences and even got a spot in the damn World Title tournament VS Danielson.

All great points

Having in ring talent as VPs gave me WCW vibes.

@UCvJKvUEaPPMU1vC7_SVYpsw Aew fans are either slow or just troll at this point.

@@jimmmymeadowno7787 You don’t even believe that.

I'm old enough to remember when the Bucks put over Private Party during the tag team tournament & Kenny was having competitive matches against Janela of all people & everyone complained, now we have people pretending they're 03 HHH smh. Where did people like you come from & what do you get from revisionist history?

Think a heel turn it was leading from but guy will probably come back then get injured again

@@standardofexcellence Exactly

Punk is out for like 8 months from injury. The controversy will have been calmed down by then

@@standardofexcellence that is plausible, he us injury prone

Lol

Thank you for calling it right down the middle. All sides are to blame for this.

No. He blew his chances the second he nuked the roster and destroyed his career again. NO more chances. Bucks if they're leaking stuff need to stop too.

@@JoeChillton I respect your opinion. My thing is though why fire Punk but keep The Bucks and Kenny?

@@JoeChillton How does it feel knowing that your precious young bucks got beat up by a 42 year old with a torn pec?

@@kidz919 He doesn’t he just loves his knee slappers.

@@JoeChillton Dave is that you?

STFU. That narrative about Young Bucks chasing off Cody Rhodes when it's well established it's more that Cody Rhodes wanted'top level respect' aka large contract like Cm Punk's contract. F'ing fakes news spreaders you guys are

The fact that you think that Cody was keeping things from spiraling out of control says all we need to know.

The whole situation at hand screams the bucks started things backstage.

@@Wubbit_Reacts 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@@boombastic108 truth is pretty funny sometimes

You nailed it... he is and always has been must watch TV! He just needs to be separated from the lockeroom politics like Brock lesnar..

"Glock Anderson" was probably one of the top three moments for any of Cody's storylines in AEW. Hell, Anderson in general in that story was amazing. I'd want Cody back in a heartbeat if it meant we got that Arn every week.

Or worse TNA

I think it's already there

CM Punk is nothing like Bret Hart.

Difference is Punk doesn’t have the integrity and leadership that Bret does. And HBK is a lot more entertaining and charismatic than the entire Elite

Cm punk is more hbk than Bret hart

@@mramos1126 Maybe not, but they definitely have similar likes and dislikes when it comes to wrestling and certain people lol

@@mramos1126 NOTHING

Agree with all that.

Additionally, Punk should never be AEW champion again. Your top championship is an advertisement for your company. and CM Punk can't be trusted to represent AEW. First he breaks his ankle during a crowd dive, now he starts a melee after winning the championship. Your champion should be the example and I don't know what good CM Punk has done in that regard. And I think you're wrong about the Bucks and KO, they'd go right to WWE and the fans that like them would follow. Firing them is not an option IMO.

All true. People only wanna put all the blame on Punk cause he’s got problems with their favorites 🙄.

I disagree. He didn’t bury the whole roster. Put over Danhausen, Cole, MJF, etc. FTR love him. Here’s a legit question or 3 Why was there no pic of the kicked down door? The room damage? Swerve in our glory, I believe interviewed second. Then Jericho who supposedly told Tony it was going down. How come Dave didn’t get a text right then when he, Bryan, Sapp etc get tips for meaningless shit all the time? Not this 6 minute brawl. They were there yet they had to rely on sources for what happened? And even that is like 5 different stories but Dave is sure the man who needs arm surgery was the one that threw the first punch. I’m almost certain Dave is in on it, but that would make him look REALLY bad. As for AEW it doesn’t make them look bad because it’s their job as a company to work you. If you want to stop watching it’s because you find more entertainment in the behind the scenes stuff than the actual show. I just find it hilarious that if you call a wrestling fan a mark, they get mad. In this case, those that believe that Punk an actor on 2 shows was not acting his ass off in that scrum are bigger marks than the character Tony plays. For years Vince convinced fans that he was just a play by play announcer. Nobody but Meltzer fans knew till later that he was the brains behind the outfit.

@@turtlehead2 If this is a work this is the saddest attempt at one, NO ONE looks good in this scenario. I'm not picking sides, I think they're all immature shitheads. Punk, The Elite, Ace Steel, Tony Khan, they all suck in this scenario.

this aged well

So Adam Page didn't start this by going into business for himself? Be serious.

Weirdo

A smart human being who isn't stupid enough to provoke a fight when he is at a 3 on 1 disadvantage. Did that answer your question? And you're making quite an assumption with "aggressive manner", though it would be justified given Punk's comments. I'm sick of people acting like Punk is a victim. Whatever did or didn't happen between him and the Elite, no one can deny that he has done literally EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to escalate it. Punk WANTS to cause trouble and that is the type of person that NEEDS to be fired. He will forever be a ticking time bomb within that locker room. Someone spills coffee on him? Well, now Punk has to go on TV and bury them in an off script promo then bitch about them at the next media scrum. And a loose cannon like Punk could become dangerous. What happens if he goes into business for himself during a match? Does the name Sexy Star ring a bell to anyone?

I agree if I'm threatened and get in fight or flight mode and can't get away. Your gonna most likely end up in a fight anyway. You gotta be in a position to defend yourself and the others in there. It might be 3 on 1 but the Bucks came with malice I'm sure they couldnt be so stupid to come to a man who is still obviously pissed. They had an agenda which ultimately failed. The above guy who comment. I get his point. But at times you gotta knuckle up. Where was punk gonna go? And the fact he's still pissed btw.... The above comment. Everything can't be de escalated with all do respect.

@@dangamer8884 I never said who was right or who wrong in the situation. I simply said what one person might do when confronted by 3 people. Everybody is wrong in this situation. Nobody acted like a professional or an adult.

It depends. Replace Punk with 1980s Haku. Haku would have deleted all 5 of The Elite present (gotta count Cutlet and Nakazowa).

@Karon Nuva lol man I have no idea. If them 3 came to punk actin a fool and punk already mad. Dude who knows lmao

As long as he doesn't pull that Cody Rhoades crap refusing to be a heel no matter what...

Exactly. There’s still plenty of money to be made with all of them and BY all of them. They all just need to grow the hell up and stop acting like children.

If it wasn’t for punk I wouldn’t be watching aew right now

People ganging up on punk here are pure elite meatriders man. Eddie kingston throws punches at sammy then gets little to no public backlash but cm punk does it and now they want him fired. I get he went overboard with the scrum but its not worth a firing

What people don't forget that the elite was the one that started the whole thing all Punk wanted to do is relaunch his career as a wrestler that's all he wanted to do yes Punk was at fault but at the end of the day everybody is blamed for it you can't put the blame on one person the blame got to go to everybody but Tony made the right decision by suspending all of them and stripping them of their titles no intern champion at all Tony got start from scratch now

@@chrismalinowski654 I’ve never been a of the elite and I wouldn’t mind if Punk got canned. When everyone was running around back in 2017 saying Omega had the best match in History with Okada and The Bucks were the best tag team I was the only calling that blasphemous but what Punk did is a fireable offense. The reason you don’t see as much Heat about the Eddie Kingston situation is because What Punk did was worse than Kingston. Honestly y’all be sounding like Punk meatriders

I strongly disagree. Common sense tells you Punk IS A MAJOR DISTRACTION. NO Punk was talking sh*t and the elite responded. Don't talk trash and expect no one to respond. PUNK IS THE ISSUE since he got there. PAGE and Eddie Kingston were right all along about Punk

Did punk not say if anyone has a problem with me come find me? Or I guess he wasn't serious

Punk lies

@@fearfullyconfident2333 solomonster lies

@@fearfullyconfident2333 you work there? You know the truth? Please let us all know what actually happened.

This was hilarious.

@@Solidekans84 let's see you try saying something similar and behaving similarly at your workplace with your boss sitting next to you and see what happens, fry boy. And fyi....if the investigation turns up that it was Punk who threw the first punch and not the Bucks (I'm not counting that idiot Ace Steel in this scenario), and it's looking like it is, then Punk needs to go. He's done. Let him return to his disgraced exile.

Nope you are very ignorant. You just said, hangman started this beef with punk because he sees punk a bad influence. He went into business for himself and that is something you never do. Even Jericho said that’s something you never do. So punk gave the receipt a damn page was owed. Furthermore, I respect punk for burying all those dirt sheets guys who spread gossips and false news. Why qualifications do they have to be giving wrestling news? Where they journalists before, did they ever work with a wrestling company before? They have no credibility to be giving all these wrestling news or rumors. Lastly, the evps should not be confronting an employee who is alone in the locker room and looking for a fight. Everyone is at fault and they all got punished.

@Loner Cruising With The Wind it's also being seemingly reported that the Bucks had somebody from HR with them. Omega was also there seemingly trying to mediate the situation and trying to diffuse things before they blew up. Now, we're going to pretend for a moment that it is true. I dunno if I am barging into somebody's locker room looking for a fight while somebody from HR is with me. If this is true....

Neither side came off as the good guys.

The bias on these wrestling podcasts is bonkers. Theyre just as guilty and started the drama in the first place with trying to bury punk on live tv

Right it’s ridiculous whatever they are paying the podcasters it’s working as guys like solomonster is maki punk look bad

@@chrismalinowski654 these mark podcasters are all the same

Agreed. There can be no room for the Bucks, especially if Punk goes. If they stay, all they ever have to do with someone who eclipses the clique in popularity is to spread enough rumors and innuendos to turn the dirtsheets against them, drive them out of their minds, and get them fired.

They literally came into the room with the head of the legal department lol. There was no way they were coming in to fight. Punk threw punches regardless. Dude is the cancer of the locker room. He's gotta go.

@@rulerzigzag They came not even 10 minutes after CM Punk left. I simply cannot believe that the Bucks and Omega are so naive as to think that Punk would have calmed down that fast. They were looking for the exact reaction they got.

@@rulerzigzag they was banging on his door then proceeded to kick it down. How would you react?

@@DontAdoreYou That story has been confirmed false by like...every credible wrestling source lol

I believe the same thing will happen, but I really hope that I'm wrong.

Just Like TNA

@@SlingMeAWeb I don’t know what people see in page honesty.

@@SlingMeAWeb Again, literally no one gave it a second thought. It's a fucking promo, and a forgettable one. What the fuck is he suppose to say to build up a match? And it was months ago. The fact that CM punk is still lingering on this when he's won the championship in his hometown. CM Punk has issues, he's not a victim here. And the fact that some people are trying to justify his behavior is mindboggling to me.

@@greedygiddy2386 I'm not even a fan of Page, I think he's overrated. I just don't understand why CM Punk is letting Hangman Page live in his head rent free.

@@variant_mc it's just punk being a Diva

@@variant_mc Probably more that it mixes with the dirtsheets spreading shit about him getting Cabana fired. Honestly, everyone knows that Punk's sensitive as fuck. What's the harm in leaving him alone?

You absolutely can. You can't be the world champion and do what he did at that scrum. You can't do that at a media event for the company, bottom line. Everyone sucks in this situation.

@@ImportAustralia You absolutely can do what Punk did. Calling out toxic work environments is a necessary part of building a business.

@@MrKrabbs252 Not in a goddamn media scrum that's meant to promote the company. You can't do that there. Period. Bottom line.

punk can and probably will sue them

Literally they came looking for a fight as the EVP’s of that company and tried to say he unjustly defended himself

Punk literally said "If you have a problem with me, come find me, let's f-cking go." Calling people out like that then going to hide in your locker room and telling them to go away is pathetic. He brought that confrontation onto himself with his own actions. He should be gone, the elite should loose their evp titles and that should be the end of it.

Crazy how it seems noone is stating this which is the most obvious. If they went looking for punk right after, which I'm sure we all know they weren't going there in a calm manner...why aren't they getting more flack for this seeing as how they are executive vps. Let's be real the elite didn't go over there to his lock room saying "hey Phil, let's talk about this and what was said out there".

I'm not even saying that Punk wasn't acting like a dick. He was and it's certainly not for the first time in his career he acted like a dick. He was on stage part of it was in character, but a large part of it seemed to be out of character but he was tossing around lit matches like a 7 year old. A 7 year old throwing around lit matches is bad and could be dangerous, but the Bucks and Omega storming into Punk's locker room is the powder keg IMO. If they want to hang that EVP nonsense over everyone's heads they have to be EVPs all the time and an executive should certainly know better.

The wrestling media has portrayed Brock in a bad light for ages and he could care less lol

wcw thought the same thing

@@Nostalgia9478 You can't call it going into business for yourself when you don't have scripted promos. They were feuding and going at each other verbally. Its not like Page just out the blue went at Punk.

@@Nostalgia9478 Kingston said “Nobody in the locker room wants you here” and MJF mentioned Cabana. It’s so lame hearing ppl cry about Page starting it when he Legit was just following the story that was being told. So was it Punks ego that wanted him to ask permission? It was a line in a promo 4 months ago, is Punk that much of an insecure baby that he held on to it that long? Im glad the cry baby is gone. He’s awful in the ring and can’t get through a match w/o tearing or breaking something. He overshadowed every wrestler, cameraman, ring crew member, etc that worked their ass off for that show. But like always, it’s all about Phil.

@@kevinlee9929 Lmao Brock has 4 matches a year and does 1 move 85% of the match. Let's not...

Idk why people are not talking about this? Cody left because of the bucks and kenny... it means there were 2 factions already! And it also explains jericho's bizarre choices of matches so much! He is trying to play cool with "the elite". Kenny and bucks think like cali neo-marxists... even a jobber deserves 500k per year contract. But it is not possible! AEW numbers showed that, 0 growth! I echo with jim Cornette 's criticisms here.

@@UKpowerunleashed because that's not the way people want to look at Kenny and the Bucks. It's very possible there not the saints they've been painted as. I liked Kenny and the bucks...then all in happened and I started looking at them a bit different since then and it's only gotten worse

I agree with you on the EVPS bs and their silly acts but Punk also is a big part of this blame and is also a toxic person to be backstage

@@luisa.barrueta1822 sure but this has happened with Cody, FTR and now Punk

Omega has always been top guy and his match with Hangman at Full Gear better rated than anything Punk has done! You Punk marks are pathetic!!!

@@fearfullyconfident2333 omega means nothing to most people. Hell he has never been a top ratings guy, even at the start of the company. Just because Meltzer gives omega 6 stars, doesn’t mean most people care about him.

Punk is not going to be much of a draw, if he's injury prone.

AEW isn't going to grow its audience cause its owner books a show only catered to diehards/Indy fans. He books for the approval of the Dave Meltzers of the world. And booking a show strictly for that audience is only going to bring in that audience.

@@jareddavis9012 True, but he also offers tremendous value as a creative consultant, he knows how to tell logical, exciting stories.

@@jareddavis9012 Punk isn't that much of a draw to begin with

Punk hasn't been that much of a draw has he . Yes ppvs have gone up slightly.... But they're still doing 900k-1m a week and they were doing that be4 he got there so what exactly new viewers had he drawn

Punk is a mark for himself. There's no shortage of egos in wrestling, but Punk is like a bizarro Hogan. Instead of playing politics, he bitches and moans whenever he isn't the face of a promotion.

@@pimpsonparade He's the face of the promotion NOW and still bitches and moans about something. It's his default mode.

That is true though CM Punk was speaking the truth but it was the wrong place at the wrong time when all I'll have won the best shows to date it was the wrong time for him to did that

@@johnbeal6114 Problem is that if Punk had done something else, like do a separate presser or go on Corny's podcast, the dirt sheets would pounce him anyway, and if he kept trying to get leadership from the tool at the top, he'd keep getting smeared. The problem here isn't Punk, but the lack of AEW leadership. Getting rid of Punk may help short term, but a lot of the ex-WWE guys will be a lot more difficult to keep now if the Elite are allowed to essentially bully anyone who outshines them Honestly, FTR must be counting the minutes until their deal is done.

@@jesuszamora6949 that is true Tony got to step up and be a better leader he got to stop being that friend and start acting like a boss I got a lot of respect for him but he got to take his world as the boss more seriously it's okay to be a fan and have fun but you got to put your foot down we need it firing CM Punk is not going to be enough because they need Punk he's the biggest draw and with the TV deals coming up they need him he just got his act together and apologize to Tony and to the fans and the top locker room the same with the elite they got to make amends water under the bridge and business as usual I don't want to see a ew fail because I don't want to see Eric bischoff rubbing and Tony's face and tell him I told you so I want Tony to prove him wrong

classic Punk. he thinks he is bigger than everyone

Punk buried the company...

Cuz he escalated things. Notice how everyone has been waiting to blast him. Says they were holding it in for a very long time

@@bluebaron6858 Punk did not bury the company

I agree

@@bluebaron6858 out the blue? For no reason... no provocation? People fail at basic human. psychology. Study cause and effect folks. It’s not effect and blame. You can’t learn anything that way.

Or maybe people can just behave like professionals and grown adults. There's no need to revert to carny culture and weird, backwards traditions.

Wrestlers Court sounded like lighthearted fun. Anytime you can pay the judge off with Jack Daniels. That tells you all you need to know lol

@@DeadmanInc336 You’ve never been in a locker room. Or had best friends and it shows. Now go play video games.

@@upandaway5238 nope. I just know how to behave like a professional adult and not some alcoholic, drug addicted, piece of crap CARNY. 🤷

@@kevinlee9929 based on all your comments here and especially this one i can tell ur WWE stan

Man, I remember those TVtraxx days. Those got me through some very bad times.

@@chrissawyer1484 saaaaame

Completely agree

The way the drama came about and unfolded in aew would never happened under Vince. Not in front of the world to notice and see. Aew fans are clearly missing the point.

Facts!

Taking shots at other wrestlers isn’t bullying. This comment reads like you making up shit to fit a narrative. These guys didn’t push Cody out. Cody made the conscious choice to leave. If anything the fans booing Cody for not turning heel pushed him out.

@@SYMShutYoMouth It was bullying. Look back at what they did, Rollins couldn’t even say he was paid more than their precious ospreay and he got crucified.

@@upandaway5238 You know nothing. You just said ALLEGEDLY like it s a fact they drove Cody out. shut up.

@@greedygiddy2386 Lmfao Rollins bragging about his money had to do with his unnecessary shots at Will Ospreay. The Elite have nothing to do with that. In fact, The Young Bucks referred to Seth as their friend in their book. You guys just make dumb shit up to fit a narrative and it’s embarrassing. Grow up.

Bingo

So what should Khan do with Punk?

I agree 💯 on this. Punk shouldn't be fired. He exposed The Elite and Page for what they are, bunch of snakes. Jim Cornette said it best "if you're not in their clique they'll fuck you over". Kenny and Bucks need evps status removed from them. Page shouldn't have went into business for himself. Punk gives Page a receipt and the headlines are "CM Punk goes into business for himself". At the Media Scrum Punk said when u defend yourself you always look defensive in the end. Page hasn't done shit his entire career except wrestle blowup dolls in NJPW with 2 other jerkoffs Omega and The bucks. Funny how a few weeks ago when Omega returned, after the show he cut a promo saying how him and the bucks aren't a tribute act lmfao THATS SOME BS right there 🤣🤣🤣 for years they have done the 2 Sweet thing. Stole that from NWO back then it was cool when Hogan, Nash and Hall did it. Punk and FTR have a old-school style to them like Bret Hart. U don't see Punk doing 500 superkicks in his matches. Omega is a hypocrite for what he said in his promo the night he returned

@@starbreaker269 lol being intentionally obtuse is never a good look.

Question…… did you know Ace Steel worked there before he walked out there and took the contract for Punk? Another question, do you think it’s odd that this issue with Cabana was revisited right after introducing him? And another are you aware that Ace Steel was the one who trained Cabana and Punk? My bad, last question….. wouldn’t it make for great tv if they did a segment with the 3 of them and hyped it up the week before? I think so. It’s a work. You’re basing your feelings off of what you heard from someone who heard it from someone else. Stop believing in Meltzer and SRS. Put the quote about the greatest trick the devil ever pulled into RU-vid and watch the ending of The Usual Suspects. Watch the guy’s face when he realizes that he’s just been worked. They’ve been planting little seeds here and there since Punk arrived. It’s great. THIS is the good story that Punk wanted. Not the cookie cutter WWE bullshit. This is blurring the lines of reality and fiction

Hypocrisy considering that he shit on vets who tried to advise HIM when he was younger.

@@hothotheat3000 it's a generational thing

Why do people keep saying this "both sides" nonsense? To be clear, I've talked a lot of shit about the Bucks. NOT a fan. But what do we _know_ they did wrong? Punk's camp has softened on the "kicked in the door" allegation to mean _figuratively,_ and every dirt sheet worth a damn has denied that they were spreading rumors about him. Hangman cut a promo that was in theme with stuff Eddie Kingston had _already_ said. As a viewer at home, I assumed it was setting up a future angle until Punk threw a tantrum.

@@Orpheusftw if Page doesn’t go that route in the promo, then what’s the story. It was Babyface/Babyface with no build whatsoever.

The merch sales were through the roof, but the company allowed a snake to enter the garden and now they’ve all been bitten.

If you look up "covert narcissistic personality disorder", he's a textbook case sadly

I guess the Elite being a problem is overlooked🙄

smarks turn on everybody. it's now cm punk's turn because this is just what they do.

The Elite are not blameless they were rightfully suspended and should be stripped of their EVP titles. But letting The Elite go would be a bigger blow to AEW than letting Punk go. They’ve been there since day one they helped make that company what it is, AEW was doing just fine before Punk got there.

@@kevinhenry4047 Personally, I don't believe it would be. Punk generated their big business, and was actually pretty liked outside of the EVP's and their camp. Had Dave Meltzer not have lied about Punk getting Cabana fired & Page didn't go into business for himself, this whole debacle wouldn't have happened.

CM Punk was telling Tony Khan privately that Hangman shouldnt be champion, thats why Hangman shot on him. I think Hangman was right to do that if thats true.

Also the EVPs apparantly took Megha Parkle the AEW lawyer and Christopher Daniels the head of talent relations with them to Punks locker room. They wouldn't take them if they were looking for a fight. They clearly went there to reprimend him like how any employee in any workplace would be reprimented if they criticised their bosses

@@sla7898 I didn’t mean a physical fight but they clearly wanted to confront Punk. I mean after all Punk did say “you got a problem with me say it to my face.”

Anyone with sense knew that something wasn’t right Aew. Also punk is no different from anyone before him, he plays the victim like he doesn’t play politics himself.

Add to that the person in charge of the RU-vid channel leaving up the ENTIRE SCRUM that’s so damaging to the image of their company. Punk did two episodes of this show called Mayans. A Sons of Anarchy spin off. They liked what he did so much that they are keeping him on for more episodes. He was supposed to do 2 episodes of Heels, but they kept him on. Point is I guess he can act. Just like when he sold the foot on the Moxley kick. How can you believe that was fake, but the scrum was real? Oh right because Dave heard from somebody that it happened. It’s a work. If they jumped him or whatever when he left the scrum, why didn’t Dave, Sapp, Alvarez get text messages from their fake sources DURING THE SCRUM? Neither of them said I got a text while in the presser saying this and that’s going on. Why? Because it didn’t happen. Punk said they put 20 screws in his foot. And wore Danhausen’s boot that were 2 sizes too small😂😂😂.

Too many things about the whole situation make it seem like a work more than it being legit. You could begin and end it with the fact TK sat there without interrupting or completely shutting Punk down. When you add in the little details like the fact that Ace is suddenly on our TV as part of the story for the first time days earlier and then coincidentally he's right in the middle of everything. From a name that some have heard because he was one of Punk's trainers but a face few if any could pick out of a lineup to being not just present but a key figure who's biting, pulling hair smack dead in the middle of all the chaos. Seems awfully convenient with the lack of allies Punk has to introduce us to something extremely rare, a friend of CM Punk. This way you get to avoid using FTR as his allies and having to suspend more of your talent. And I get that almost everyone has their breaking point but I'm sorry it's not easy to buy the Bucks as the confrontational types to begin with. This story reads like the ghosts of Dynamite Kid and Bruiser Brody hijacked the Bucks bodies momentarily only to jump out as soon as the door was "kicked" in. This thing has gotten them more attention than they've ever had in the last 3+ years of their existence. After a historic weekend for WWE (first show over there in multiple decades) all the wrestling community is talking about is this alleged incident...not the PPV AEW just ran...not the return of MJF after a few months of being away without explanation of what's up or when he's coming back. But an alleged fight not shown on TV and one that nobody that witnessed it is allowed to speak about. If the Brandon Cutler BTE footage was conveniently leaked to the media since they couldn't release it if it actually existed then it could be shown that I'm way way way off base. But it won't be leaked because there was nothing to record to begin with. Again, convenient, very convenient...or a well concocted, excellently executed work pulled off to send us down a road never traveled before by the fans. It wasn't too long ago Omega said something along the lines of them changing the way we consume wrestling...this would also give some explanation to what he may have been referring to with that statement as well. I'm betting work but no matter what they have more eyes on them than ever before and hopefully they don't screw this up. No matter how they got people's attention what they do with it is what really matters. This is an opportunity unlike any they've had up until this point